Hi there i'm just wondering if anybody else's head always seems noisey, even if i get peace and quiet, my head won't shut up it just go's on and on.

When i have medication it shut's up, but since iv'e been off it now for over 5 weeks, it's gone back to being noisey all the time, i think that's whay i find it harder to concentrate.

anyone else have this problem?
or is it just me lol

hey X ...

... hop on a motorbike and speed away
... exercise at your aerobic threshold (just below the interface between exercise switching from aerobic ->- anaerobic)
... or bury yourself in thought - a subject which you *want* to think about ~and the noise will go away~

The ADDer mind is rather a beast.
It will not be kept in the garage.
The noise is the ADDer mind attempting to turn its own ignition and setting off ... under its own steam ... ... ...

The 'beast-like' nature of the ADD mind can be explained (with respect to the nonADD mind) ... as follows ...

->- the ADD mind is driven to think (the rationale for this is elsewhere on the forum)
(actually better described as --
'to be working'
'to be circulating afferent and efferent impulses around its internal circuitry' 'to be lit up like a Christmas tree :-)')

(explaining the motorbike ->->-
(vast increase in data flow - visual stream of data ... when travelling ... the faster ... the more data enters ... there's a limit to the speed though - 'saturating bandwidth')
->->- and exercise ->->-
(motor efferent and afferent neurotransmission)
(efferent-neuromuscular innervation, afferent-proprioceptors)
delivering impulses to and relaying them away from the brain.
->->- observations above).

SB.

The mind is a data driven engine - and the ADDer mind is more powerful than the nonADDer mind.

Yes my head is noisy. I actually had a journal I kept last time I was pregnant (it's a bit more complicted as I had reoccuring central ear infections while pregnant that landed me in the hospital 6 or 7 nights for pain management and regular suction of fluids)

I had (where is that book?)
I called it a pain report because each time I described one of my six or 7 cruteria to the doctor he would call it pain. But in fact I had 7 distinct criteria.

Noise (1-10) staticlike
pulsing (1-10) Also a very loud noise.

Fullness (1-10)dizziness/lack of balance(1-10)
Itchiness(1-10)
Secretions (1-10)
Pain(1-10)

I spent 8 weeks of my last pregnancy on a morphine derivative. And my eardrums were pierced witha needed 2 times on one side and 3 on the other.

The mor[phine took care of the pain and the pulsing but the rest stayed pretty much until the end of the pregnancy. At which point I could start taking my ritalin again.

The noise I now know about. I am more aware because of my problems in pregnancy.

SZtill have noisy head. Static or pulsing (i remeber this from childhood. And then theres this kind of echio? resonance? when two plates clack together etc.

Noisy head.


the riatalin helps alot. Is there something that could help more. Are some meds more quieting? like a different stimulant for example? I've been on Ritalin for 15 years never another.


I'm just so afraid to let anyone near my ears ever again.

Boots

Noisy head=my worst "symptom" :rolleyes:...

That cursed Gremlin! He has the Remote Control to my brain and stays many miles from me, the meds--they block his supercharged multi-functional Remote...and leave me with the old-cheesy remote and I go click-click-click one channel at a time to find the "right and proper" signal for my life.

Yeah, my head can get very noisy and very had to get away from at times. At the moment it's almost gone the other direction thanks to taking and then getting of a medication because of side effects:rolleyes: . Hang in there -- hopefully September will bring you some more useful information.

Scattered

I don't know about noisy, but I have what I call the "everlasting radio" in my head. No matter what, a song is ALWAYS stuck in my head, and it usually changes within 5 seconds.

Yeah, my brain starts going so fast, it feels like it's spinning or something and my ears sometimes kinda ring when it does it. Have you ever tried yoga? I found it really helps quiet that, it took awhile of doing it, but, eventually, I was able to slow it down when meditating.

I found my brain does it a lot when I am trying to go to sleep lately, so I have been listening to these night-time meditation cds, and they are working really good.

I thought I was some sort of freak, it's nice to hear I am not the only one with a 'gremlin' :D in my head!

I thought I was some sort of freak, it's nice to hear I am not the only one with a 'gremlin' :D in my head!If I see your Gremlin I promise I will try to take his remote, as long as you do the same if you see mine. :D

Crazy

Okay, sounds good. If I ever see your Gremlin, I will put my 'road-runner' shoes on and take the remote away and give it back to you. You can't miss my Gremlin, he wears a 'Vote for Pedro' t-shirt from Napoleon Dynamite.

Okay, sounds good. If I ever see your Gremlin, I will put my 'road-runner' shoes on and take the remote away and give it back to you. You can't miss my Gremlin, he wears a 'Vote for Pedro' t-shirt from Napoleon Dynamite.Hmm maybe the kid has road-runner shoes, I will ask her about that. Mine looks suspiciously like a cross between a garden gnome and a Teletubbie ;) and he's one bad dude!

Peace!
Crazy

The only time my mind is quiet is when I'm on my medication and when swimming. I think that's why I love swimming so much! :D

Without medication in my system, it takes me at least an hour and a half to fall asleep, unless I just crash. With medication, it takes a lot less time because my mind isn't racing so much.

Yoga makes my mind quieter, but I can't just concentrate on my breathing, I still end up thinking. :(

Before understanding what was wrong with me, I would try to shut out all of the lights and sit in a dark room with the thought, 'if I can just shut down all outside stimuli, I can clear the noise and be able to think again'. That didn't help but going for a run did.

Yeah, whenever I have tried to shut myself in a quiet room, it gets faster and louder in my head :eyebrow: I can't really take meds. For some reason, they make me way too 'fuzzy' mentally, like I stop hyper-focusing, but, then I can't focus on anything to learn, my grades plummeted. For me personally, the side effects of all the different meds I tried over the years were just too much, so, I depend on counseling and talking to you guys to quiet my mind more. Feeling understood on here is helping SO much.:D

Crazy, the funny thing is, I can actually picture your description of your Gremlin in my mind.

Notice I didn't say that I kept trying to shut myself in a quiet room - just as you, that only kicked my brain into overdrive and the 'noise' got louder. That was before I knew what was wrong. As a kid [I'm an old fart now - just had another birthday], when the noise or fog set in, I would go for a ride or run. I kept that up until about 10 years ago when I stopped exercising [baby - I'm the dad but there was a rather uninventive mother there at the time so I was and still am, Mr. Mom]. The fog set in and the noise was relentless. Two years ago, I started exercising again, it was the only way that I could control the noise. Six months ago, I had an epiphany after spending some time with my nephew whom I have always considered to be the poster boy for Ritalin. It occurred that I was just like him and have always been that way. So are other family members.
Since medication doesn't seem to be working for you, go for a run.

Yeah, whenever I have tried to shut myself in a quiet room, it gets faster and louder in my head :eyebrow: I can't really take meds. For some reason, they make me way too 'fuzzy' mentally, like I stop hyper-focusing, but, then I can't focus on anything to learn, my grades plummeted. For me personally, the side effects of all the different meds I tried over the years were just too much, so, I depend on counseling and talking to you guys to quiet my mind more. Feeling understood on here is helping SO much.:D

Crazy, the funny thing is, I can actually picture your description of your Gremlin in my mind.

The same thing would happen to me pre-meds, especially if I wanted to sleep :rolleyes: channel-switching madness would ensue and I had to defocus on the TV, which drove my sleeping partners nuts!

Meds don't make me fuzzier though but since yours do, glad we are here for you Chele (did I mention I knew a Michele in HS who went by Chelle?) :D.

I am not at all surprised you can picture the Gremlin. In typical ADD fashion he is pretty 13 dimensional ;).

Crazy

The same thing would happen to me pre-meds, especially if I wanted to sleep :rolleyes: channel-switching madness would ensue and I had to defocus on the TV, which drove my sleeping partners nuts!

Meds don't make me fuzzier though but since yours do, glad we are here for you Chele (did I mention I knew a Michele in HS who went by Chelle?) :D.
Yeah, that's what I hate, meds seem to make me worse, so, this is definitely a good place for me. No, you didn't say that you had a friend Michele who went by Chelle. I always went by Michele, then, when my hubby and I fell in love, he started calling me Chele, and it really stuck. That's neat though, I don't know many Chele's out there. :D
I am not at all surprised you can picture the Gremlin. In typical ADD fashion he is pretty 13 dimensional ;).
Yeah, I am trying to find out what my Gremlin's name is. Whenever I ask him, he starts chanting like the monks in that Enigma song, "Sadness". I think maybe if we embrace our Gremlin's they will be nicer to us, what do you think?
Crazy
P.S. Should we start a Gremlin post or am I taking this too far??

Crazy,

Sorry, I tried answering your questions, they are in the above post, but, they are so in there, they are hard to read. How do people separate the posts to answer stuff? :faint:

hey X ...

... hop on a motorbike and speed away
... exercise at your aerobic threshold (just below the interface between exercise switching from aerobic ->- anaerobic)
... or bury yourself in thought - a subject which you *want* to think about ~and the noise will go away~

The ADDer mind is rather a beast.
It will not be kept in the garage.
The noise is the ADDer mind attempting to turn its own ignition and setting off ... under its own steam ... ... ...

The 'beast-like' nature of the ADD mind can be explained (with respect to the nonADD mind) ... as follows ...

->- the ADD mind is driven to think (the rationale for this is elsewhere on the forum)
(actually better described as --
'to be working'
'to be circulating afferent and efferent impulses around its internal circuitry' 'to be lit up like a Christmas tree :-)')

(explaining the motorbike ->->-
(vast increase in data flow - visual stream of data ... when travelling ... the faster ... the more data enters ... there's a limit to the speed though - 'saturating bandwidth')
->->- and exercise ->->-
(motor efferent and afferent neurotransmission)
(efferent-neuromuscular innervation, afferent-proprioceptors)
delivering impulses to and relaying them away from the brain.
->->- observations above).

SB.

The mind is a data driven engine - and the ADDer mind is more powerful than the nonADDer mind.

Hi SB_UK thanks for the advice, but i'm having a really bad time in trying to focus on anything at all, i can just about write a messege back, your right though the noise does go away when i can focus. ;)

Oh yes! My head is "always" noisy.

Janet

Hey X(x)X ...

... from #2
... Chloé adds 'swimming' and Turbo adds 'running' into the fray ... two perfect examples of exercises which hit the aerobic-(A)/-anaerobic interface(An) ...
-A-`-An-... throw in the bicycle and we have the triathlon ... and throw in walking (at speed) ... and we have the set ... 'yoga' ... OK ... but the others better ... for the newbie ...
... ... ... so a solution ... grab yourself a Turborider ... not a rider which belongs to (forum member) Turbo(fish) ... :-) ... but a £50 or so device upon which one may place a bicycle and cycle indoors ... ... ...
... jump on when your mind is most noisey ... and monitor your speed and mind simultaneously ...
... your speed may be monitored using a simple speedo (from Halfords - a couple of £'s) ... incidentally ... nothing to do with (forum member) speedo ... :-) ... who incidentally isn't 'simple' ... ... ...

By the way - this all isn't IMHO ... it *will* work ... ... ... (just as Chloé and Turbo suggest) ... and also Ian (It's Chaotic) down in (forum) exercise ... in the bowels ...ermmm... (sorry, Ian!) ... a little below us on the page ... forum 157 ... think full of 'beans' ... ... ... ... :-) ... ... more later if you like ...

SB.

Just listen to music. It makes everthing dissappear.

...music....And from #1 part ... two ...
... '...to translate...' ... :-) ...

... ... ... data flow through the eyes feeds the 'brain' ...
... data flow through the optic nerve ... (a high band width high bit rate data bus) satisfies the mind ... silences the noise ... ... ...

Second in-line ... 'music' as 'Ich/-/ spr'ich's'... :-) ... ... ...
... data flow through the auditory nerve ...

... perhaps ADDer 'Heaven' might include a ... ... ...

... portable digital music source ->- portable digital DAC ->- portable digital pre-amp ->- ears* ...

SB.

*portable (...but... you guys knew that ...right... ...???...)

Just listen to music. It makes everthing dissappear.
Yes your right there aswell! i love music, i could listen to music all day long.
I guess it would pee my family off after a bit though. lol

Swimming is cool but i just don't like it, i find it really boring, i think it has something to do with my asthma, because i get out of breath easily i get bored of it quite quickly then.

Thanks for all the idea's guy's.

Conversations between the right and the left side of my brain,,,,, always in dispute,,,,, What I should do,,,,, what is the right thing to do,,,,, and what do I really want to do!!! I seem to always add in a little Monty Python humor and I`m laughing at myself again!
I`ve have had music in my head for many years now and for the most part it`s pretty good. If I need to switch from a song that is stuck on repeat, I have to play a different tune on the the outside,,, loud,,, in order to switch songs inside. On top of the disputes, the music, I have the low HUMMMMMM in my head,,,, sometimes loud, at times quiet. I seem to be sensitive to the ultra low frequencies,,, almost like hearing a low vibration instead of feeling it. [I wish I took typing 25 years ago in highschool--- It takes to long to type!!!] Well, that is enough typing for now!! hehehe I`m laughing again!!!

Would you say that this is a clear sign of ADD?

I'm undiagnosed but this is prob. my biggest physical symptom, particularly when I try to settle down to sleep.

I've been deliberating on pursuing diagnosis for a couple of months or so.
Should this sign give me confidence to proceed?

It's one of the symptoms that MIGHT be attributed to ADD. Other conditions can cause this as well such as anxiety. You need to look at this plus a list of other symptoms and the duration in which you have had them. When taken all together it aids in the diagnosis of ADD. Any one symptom by itself is not conclusive evidence. There are many published lists of things to look for in the diagnosis. You might be able to find something inthe forums or else go to one of the many ADD organization websites (google it) or else get a good book like "Delivered from Distraction" by Ratey or "Healing ADD" by Amen.

Would you say that this is a clear sign of ADD?

I'm undiagnosed but this is prob. my biggest physical symptom, particularly when I try to settle down to sleep.

I've been deliberating on pursuing diagnosis for a couple of months or so.
Should this sign give me confidence to proceed?

This is my biggest physical symptom, like I mentioned. I have been annoying sleeping partners for years (pre-meds) by using the TV set as a source of sound to defocus upon and before I left home I would often be awake until the sun rose :faint:. There would have to be more symptoms than this one for a definitive diagnosis of ADD however.

Like Turbofish and Chele, quiet rooms are abject torture ...deliver me from public library reading rooms! My mind still has some distracting thoughts and besides, people still breathe and snuffle and turn pages and electric lights hum...ugh!


Please refer to my post regarding the Remote Control Gremlin further back in this thread; my meds don't stop that noise entirely, just give me some degree of control over what form it takes since SB is correct:

The mind is a data driven engine - and the ADDer mind is more powerful than the nonADDer mind.

Crazy (who is just loaded with ADD)


I seem to always add in a little Monty Python humor and I`m laughing at myself again!
I`ve have had music in my head for many years now and for the most part it`s pretty good. If I need to switch from a song that is stuck on repeat, I have to play a different tune on the the outside,,, loud,,, in order to switch songs inside.I also have to play music loud, but that's to drown out painful external auditory input in my case. Even medicated some sounds hurt me.

I call the songs stuck in my head "earworms", and have discussed this elsewhere (Forgive me Tamm! I am not yet medicated and that search engine often fails me in this state!) and for me to utilise another song does not kill an earworm, the dumb thing stays there and waits until the external music ends then comes back with vigor~to kill an earworm, I must distort it until it DIES a painful and humorous death.

Monty Python rocks, and if you can be that humorous, you too can distort an earworm to death! This is accomplished by inventing new and hilarious lyrics for the same tune :D...or if you are really good and musically inclined (Stabile is way better than me!) you can distort the actual tune itself, take it out of tune, warp it...lather-rinse-repeat until earworm shrivels up in ignominious defeat!

HTH!

Crazy

Any one symptom by itself is not conclusive evidence. There are many published lists of things to look for in the diagnosis.Thanks for the replies. Of course, I have many other symptomatic behaviours. Procrastination, disorganisation, lack of follow through, boredom - which have caused problems at school and work.

But then you read so much about other things that may mimic the condition.
Seeing as I'm not hyperactive, and don't seem particularly impulsive, I guess I need to be sure that I *feel* as if I have ADD - and for me it's this constant mental restlessness.

But, anyway, I have made the first steps and seen my doctor about this.
I guess I'm just worried that someone's going to turn around and say "Don't be stupid, you don't have ADD - go away and try harder.."

Thanks for the replies. Of course, I have many other symptomatic behaviours. Procrastination, disorganisation, lack of follow through, boredom - which have caused problems at school and work.

But then you read so much about other things that may mimic the condition.
Seeing as I'm not hyperactive, and don't seem particularly impulsive, I guess I need to be sure that I *feel* as if I have ADD - and for me it's this constant mental restlessness.

But, anyway, I have made the first steps and seen my doctor about this.
I guess I'm just worried that someone's going to turn around and say "Don't be stupid, you don't have ADD - go away and try harder.."Please remember there is the third type, inattentive ;) and that's just as valid as the hyper and combined types.

Crazy

I guess I need to be sure that I *feel* as if I have ADD - and for me it's this constant mental restlessness.

I am hyperactive classified as impulsive now; although all thoughts are done via impulses of chemicals (another thread all together) however I have a sister who is also ADD but she is not physically hyper (she says she is the opposite often feeling physically tired) .My sister complains her mind is always “restless” she is as ADD as I am it is just that my mental restlessness comes out physically and hers does not. We share many of the same traits it is only their expression that is different.

However I have a sister who is also ADD but she is not physically hyper (she says she is the opposite often feeling physically tired)

Thanks for the comment.
I guess it's the term "inattentive" that confuses me a bit. I feel as if I am actually alert to everything that goes on around me - it's just that I don't seem to do anything about it. Most people would describe me as 'passive', I think.
In general the whole experience is pretty exhausting.

The first book I read in this area was "The Highly Sensitive Person" by Elaine Aron. She recommends 10 hours in bed each night to recover from over-stimulation.
It was only very recently that I came across ADD without hyperactivity and everything started to click together.

I guess it's the term "inattentive" that confuses me a bit. I feel as if I am actually alert to everything that goes on around me - it's just that I don't seem to do anything about it.It is confusing and it confuses me a LOT, actually. It makes me want to gnash my teeth and tear out my hair sometimes!


{{Kid 3 and I are condidered predominantly Inattentive because the symptoms of Inattention are what we exhibit the most of and experience the most difficulty coping with}}

DSM-IV Criteria for ADHD
I. Either A or B:



Six or more of the following symptoms of inattention have been present for at least 6 months to a point that is disruptive and inappropriate for developmental level:


Inattention



Often does not give close attention to details or makes careless mistakes in schoolwork, work, or other activities.

Often has trouble keeping attention on tasks or play activities.

Often does not seem to listen when spoken to directly.

Often does not follow instructions and fails to finish schoolwork, chores, or duties in the workplace (not due to oppositional behavior or failure to understand instructions).

Often has trouble organizing activities.

Often avoids, dislikes, or doesn't want to do things that take a lot of mental effort for a long period of time (such as schoolwork or homework).

Often loses things needed for tasks and activities (e.g. toys, school assignments, pencils, books, or tools).

Is often easily distracted.

Is often forgetful in daily activities.


{{Yupsy, that is us alright...however...we are/were Combined to begin with :faint: but not due to the Hyperactive component}}



Six or more of the following symptoms of hyperactivity-impulsivity have been present for at least 6 months to an extent that is disruptive and inappropriate for developmental level:


Hyperactivity



Often fidgets with hands or feet or squirms in seat.

Often gets up from seat when remaining in seat is expected.

Often runs about or climbs when and where it is not appropriate (adolescents or adults may feel very restless).

Often has trouble playing or enjoying leisure activities quietly.

Is often "on the go" or often acts as if "driven by a motor".

Often talks excessively.



{{She and I presented the Go-Go Gadget Impulsivity component}}

Impulsivity



Often blurts out answers before questions have been finished.

Often has trouble waiting one's turn.

Often interrupts or intrudes on others (e.g., butts into conversations or games).




Some symptoms that cause impairment were present before age 7 years.

Some impairment from the symptoms is present in two or more settings (e.g. at school/work and at home).

There must be clear evidence of significant impairment in social, school, or work functioning.

The symptoms do not happen only during the course of a Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Schizophrenia, or other Psychotic Disorder. The symptoms are not better accounted for by another mental disorder (e.g. Mood Disorder, Anxiety Disorder, Dissociative Disorder, or a Personality Disorder).


{{And there's the rub, that's where it is confusing indeed because}}

Based on these criteria, three types of ADHD are identified:



ADHD, Combined Type: if both criteria 1A and 1B are met for the past 6 months

ADHD, Predominantly Inattentive Type: if criterion 1A is met but criterion 1B is not met for the past six months

ADHD, Predominantly Hyperactive-Impulsive Type: if Criterion 1B is met but Criterion 1A is not met for the past six months.



And so the desire to gnash my teeth returns because she is barely past that 6 month limit and I am well beyond it...where did it go?? I dunno!

Most people would describe me as 'passive', I think.What is important is what you think ;) and how it feels. Trust me on that one! Tearing my hair again...I have Kid 2 here telling me she does not get it, it feels like she understands Kid 3 and me, but cannot wrap her head around it entirely-- because there is also something different...considering I know her for her whole life, I would have to agree :D yupsy, something the same yet something different...this one, Kid 2, no Go-Go Gadget at all :faint: not ever...

:eek: Purely Inattentive, whoa!

In general the whole experience is pretty exhausting.Just typing that was exhausting for me!

The first book I read in this area was "The Highly Sensitive Person" by Elaine Aron. She recommends 10 hours in bed each night to recover from over-stimulation.Chit mon! I have been trying to tell people this for years and its actually in a BOOK?? :mad: I must find this book...I ran my own personal sleep study on myself and 10 hours was it alrighty!

It was only very recently that I came across ADD without hyperactivity and everything started to click together.I sincerely hope that it clicks for both you and Kid 2, from the bottom of my heart.

Crazy (who never, ever gets 10 hours of sleep, and hates that)

I too am extremely excited that I finally have proof as to why I need 10 hours of sleep a night. Hallelujah!!!!:D

...She recommends 10 hours in bed each night to recover from over-stimulation....

It's worse for me on anything beyond 8 hours. Somewhere between 7 and 8 is optimal for me. While sleep (lack of) definitely has it's effects, the problem itself is not sleep. When I really only get 3 hours of sleep a night, I can really feel it physically. On days of adequate sleep, I only seem to feel tired in very specific ways and is highly dependent on the situation, unlike times of lack of sleep. Really, it feels as if my brain isn't collecting and processing sensory input as fast as others, and my reaction time is extremely slow when it comes to reacting to sensory input. This is a characteristic that I've notices about myself since the beginning of time, and it was taken advantage of in my daily punishment (bullying) on the playground at school.

-- YANB (yet another noisy brain).

It's worse for me on anything beyond 8 hours. Somewhere between 7 and 8 is optimal for me. While sleep (lack of) definitely has it's effects, the problem itself is not sleep. When I really only get 3 hours of sleep a night, I can really feel it physically. On days of adequate sleep, I only seem to feel tired in very specific ways and is highly dependent on the situation, unlike times of lack of sleep. Really, it feels as if my brain isn't collecting and processing sensory input as fast as others, and my reaction time is extremely slow when it comes to reacting to sensory input. This is a characteristic that I've notices about myself since the beginning of time, and it was taken advantage of in my daily punishment (bullying) on the playground at school.

-- YANB (yet another noisy brain).I feel that way from lack of sleep myself, and its brutal :faint:. Yet on the other foot, if I was bullied I got that adrenaline thing going on and had an opposite effect.

Where do ya think all these brain-bending kinda posts I make began ;).

Good morning, YANB, so loud! I heard it and rushed to greet ya :).

Sleep, hmm...I think on of the clues to not being a traditional hyper type is the need for more than oh let's say 6-7 hours of sleep.

I need 10 ...but really being what I consider combined type, as explained so well by Crazy!
I go through phases of 10 hours of sleep, then 14 hours of sleep (refer to earlier posts referring to my self dx of HUB syndrome (head up butt)

then like the last few days I either don't sleep at all of literally run on about 15 for the week.
Maybe I need to check and see if I am bi-polar, quick cycling...whatever...

Like Tam said, we have alot of things alike and then some totally opposite.
What she does on the outside ...wiggley little thing...(I know she does it on the inside, it just doesn't stay there long, movment or out the mouth)
mine stays and builds and woah...
sometimes I can't get a darn thing done, I just shut down...reg folks call that lazy. I call it like a freaking racket ball came in my head...and finally sanity just ducks and lays on the floor.

and hey for that whole sleeping with the TV on...always done it...
what is really great is the noise machines.
I love the sound of wind, rain or the ocean...puts me right to sleep...I can focus and even visualize...I use it to do my bills too! Works equally as well.

Sleep patterns!!!! Mine resemble that of some one who is from Jupiter! I stay up about a day in half then want to sleep 2/3rd of a day.

Motor mouth yep yep yep but my brain talks more than my mouth ever could!

I know this girlie!

And I know insomnia has been your friend for years?
have you noticed a change as the years have gone on?

you know I have noticed the last year, that my insomnia patterns are closer together.
It's almost a perfect pattern.
Like
Monday, 5 hours of sleep
tues up all night
wed 7 hours of sleep
Thurs 3
Friday or Sat crash and burn ....10 or more hours...
then it starts again
I used to do the 24 hour thing just out of necessity, you know cleaning, some stupid project I waited until the last min to do,
but now...I do it almost regularly? at least once every 2 weeks?
weird, and I recover a little better now than I did before,
getting old and need less sleep or hey maybe they did mis-dx me and I'm bipolar after all and it's really kicking in now you know 36something...
what ya think? anyone?

With me,, I just need my sleep, everyday. I take what I can and use what I need. Staying awake for 24 -36 hrs [working nights and having a child], I just do what I have to do. I`ve been told that I`m hyper,,,,, Yea, right! If I was hyper,,, there would be alot more done here in less time. Yes, I go through periods of being tired,, But hard work makes you tired. I don`t have [for the most part] any problems getting to sleep, staying asleep or waking up. My daughter [also ADD] and I usually sleep on the couch with the TV on. For me,, sleep, hydration and nutrition have to be kept in proper balance. Well, I`ve had enough typing for now. Later.