Has anyone ever felt like they are psychic?

I've had things happen that were just too bizarre, like de ja vue (spelling everything correctly would be bizarre for me as well!) and just knowing something was going to happen.
Another time I just had a sudden vision, clear as day, seeing someone picking out one of my dvds. I could see the title and everything. I went and looked and it was indeed missing.

My real question is, say in the above example, was it me that moved the dvd and remember the view from my own eyes, but my short term memory made me forget I did it, or was it actually like being psychic? I don't usually have that bad a memory, and can't think of any reason why I would want that dvd.

Other things where I just seem to know things about people, like after knowing someone for a short time I get strong feelings like 'this person was abused as a child'. I don't get visions of things like this (thank god!), just strong feelings.
I think the logical explanation is that I'm sub-consciously picking up on something they say or how they answer certain things, and maybe just a bit too spaced out to know exactly why I come to these conclusions.

I wish I could have more control of these type of things happening, and make use of it. Tonights lotto numbers are..... :D

I honestly think that our heighten level of perceptions comes into play - we can't wait until the 'thing' is said or done so we have to figure out what prior to it happening. Good thing and a bad thing, all wrapped up in one.
Example: I was dating this lady who was always really impressed that I always knew what she was thinking, something she wasn't use to with her X, but at the same time, it always bugged her that she felt like I was constantly analyzing her. Can't really have it both ways. When I had a time to focus on her without the distractions, I could REALLY focus. I would notice subtle changes that most would not see or hear - all because I couldn't wait for her to actually communicate fast enough for me.
Even back in high school, I would people-watch. I got really good at predetermining what a person is like by simply looking at them and paying attention to the little subtle nuances.
Last week, we had a lady moving from the art department to sales and was being introduced to our department. She is cute, really cute. Not a whole lot was said for a moment after she left but a co-worker said, "She is going to be your next wife" [Why is everyone trying to set me up!].
I said, "She is attractive, but there is a sadness about her. Something rather tragic has happen to her in the past. Plus, I can see quite a bit of insecurity in her."
"You judge people too quickly."
"But I've never been wrong" - another case of sticking mouth in foot. Of course I have been wrong - would still be married, or at least not marry the person that I did so many years ago!

I've always wondered if other people did this and if they did, what would they say about me?

When I saw the Dr about ADHD, he asked if I got a lot of De Ja Vu..I was like "yes, why"?
and he said it was because the right /left side brains don't quite operate at the same speed all the time..it is a definite ADHD trait..
Mind you, he was a bit of a strange fellow :o

I am alot like this at times.

Introduce me to anyone.. and a second after I see that person, I know if this is a "bad" person or a "good" person.

I cant explain why they are bad or good..but I am always right.

Plus..I can usually always predict what the people I know will say or do in situations.. or I will think the exact same thing that they are and reply before them..and they are like "I was just about to say that"

When I was a child I suffered constant deja-vu. While searching my closet for toys.. I would literally stop and go "omg, I knew I was doing this already"

That left/right brain things previously mentioned sounds about right. I probably thought to look for a toy.. then while looking another thought came into my head about something else and I didnt realize... and then I switched back to the toy though and therefore experienced the deja-vu. Seems logical considering how often my thoughts seem to be swtiching all the time,.

I use to smoke pot a few years ago.. and actually had to quit because it made me extremely more sensitive to the emotional well being and internal thoughts/moods of those around me. I can no longer take this drug with anyone because I find it very exhausting.

I havent smoked in years now.. and I dont plan to.
I have been super sensitive to drugs actually....and alcohol.. and sugar..

Believers say Indigo children have come to save us

BY DIANNA MARDER
The Ledger-Enquirer
19th January 2006

PHILADELPHIA - Dina Melendez was taken aback when her 4-year-old started talking about his past lives, describing brothers, sisters, two dogs and a cat.
"And then he told me he died when he was 6 and that he waited before being born again - waited for me so I could be his mommy," Melendez recalls.
But it's what Matthew says about the future that really rattles this young mother, and leads her to conclude that he is one of the so-called Indigo children - believed to be a new generation of high-energy, sometimes difficult youngsters who have psychic abilities and a deep-blue aura.
"I'm not going to grow up," Matthew says nonchalantly when he is questioned about the future. "Not everybody grows up."
Melendez is convinced that Matthew is not imitating Peter Pan, but calmly predicting his own death.
"That really frightens me," she says.
Mainstream doctors, scientists, psychologists and educators shake their heads at the very idea of Indigo children, who are described as "old souls" returning to earth to usher in an era of environmental renewal and political rebirth born of peace and compassion.
Still, the movement has gained thousands of believers since it emerged in the 1980s, spawning an array of books, Web sites, services and specialists. On Jan. 27 to 29, followers are expected to line up to see a new documentary, The Indigo Evolution, premiering at more than 500 churches and community centers around the globe.
James Twyman is the producer/director.
"These new humans, this evolution we're seeing, is in answer to the mess we have made of the world," he says.
Twyman was executive producer of an earlier film, called simply Indigo, that grossed nearly $1.4 million on its opening weekend in January 2005. A fictionalized account of one child's experience, that film was written by and starred Neale Donald Walsch, author of the best-seller "Conversations With God."
Hay House, the publishing firm that Louise Hay built with self-help and spiritual titles, reports that sales of Indigo-related books are at the half-million mark.
Among them, with 250,000 copies sold, is "The Indigo Children: The New Kids Have Arrived," by Lee Carroll and Jan Tober.
Carroll and Tober define Indigos as "restless, fearless" individuals who "believe in themselves ... have difficulty with absolute authority," and "often see better ways of doing things, at home and in school." They are in every country, on every continent, the authors say, and only a clairvoyant can see their auras.
Carroll and Tober recommend that Indigo children attend private schools that focus on individual needs, such as Montessori or Waldorf schools.
But educator Paula Moraine, faculty director at the Kimberton Waldorf School, says she's not sure there is such a thing as an Indigo. It is just as likely, she says, that parents are raising their children with more freedom of expression - certainly with more permissiveness.
Carroll and Tober's descriptors, she says, are "so vague that they encompass being human."
"You can find almost every child in those definitions."
A self-described clairvoyant named Nancy Ann Tappe is credited with first sighting and identifying Indigos.
In her 1982 book, "Understanding Your Life Through Color," (Starling Publishers) Tappe claimed she could see the colored energy fields that, she said, surround every individual - and said she was starting to see children with a new, deep-blue, aura.
She outlined four types of Indigos - humanist, conceptual, artist and interdimensional - who will become tomorrow's doctors, engineers, artists and religious leaders.
But Tappe, along with retired psychotherapist Doreen Virtue, says many Indigos also exhibit other, more troublesome traits: impatience, a sense of entitlement that borders on boorishness, and uncontrollable rage.
These children are so smart that they're bored and distracted easily, says Virtue, associate producer of "The Indigo Evolution" and author of "The Care and Feeding of Indigo Children" (Hay House).
The documentary shows only bright, happy children who excel academically and in the arts.
But in an interview last week, Virtue painted a darker picture. She says conventional teachers - and parents - are ill-equipped to deal with these youngsters. As a result, many Indigos are wrongly identified as having attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD.

Instead of having their positive traits encouraged, Virtue says, the children are inappropriately treated with such drugs as Ritalin.
George J. DuPaul, a Lehigh University professor of school psychology who has extensively researched ADHD and its treatment, is aghast at the suggestion.
"It's amazing to me that people would believe it," DuPaul says. "There's no scientific basis at all."
ADHD is a quantifiable, medically recognized diagnosis, he says, but Indigo is a dream.
"This Indigo-child thing," DuPaul says, "has no basis in fact or research. There is no diagnostic nomenclature, no test for it."
He says our ability to diagnose and treat ADHD children has grown, not the number of youngsters with the disorder.
Undaunted, Indigo believers say medicine and science have always been slow to embrace change. Twenty years ago, for example, the medical profession scoffed at meditation.
But parents who insist on downplaying or rejecting an ADHD diagnosis may be setting up their youngsters for a lifetime of difficulty, says Ronald Brown, professor of public health and a dean at Temple University.
"Several longitudinal studies show these undiagnosed children don't fare as well as adults," Brown says. "They get stuck in low-paying jobs and experience difficult marriages."
Dina Melendez was diagnosed with breast cancer when she was only 28. Her belief that everything in life happens for a reason was part of her survival strategy - reinforced by her surgeon, Beth DuPree, at St. Mary Medical Center in Langhorne, Pa.
It was DuPree who introduced Melendez to the Indigo phenomenon.
"She came to my house," Melendez recalls, "and she looked at Matthew and said, 'You know, he's Indigo.'"
DuPree says she recognized in Matthew some of the traits of her own Indigo child, Tommy, now 15.
"I see Indigo as that color of the spectrum of light that has to do with spirituality," DuPree says. "To me it means your soul has an eternal nature."
After that, Melendez read all she could on the subject, and struggled to be patient with her whirling dervish of a child.
Other parents of Indigos say they have become more spiritual as a result of having such remarkable, loving children.
Janice Girgenti is convinced that her son Daniel is an Indigo who somehow healed the family cat after a veterinarian said its condition was hopeless.
Joy Day Stevens, a marketing professional, says her Indigo child, 3-year-old Steele, often gives her messages from her deceased sister, whom he never met.
"Even at 3," she says, "he has a real clear idea of what he wants and what would make things better."
And Nancy Jean Walton, a Reiki practitioner, says her son was diagnosed with ADHD when he was in fourth grade.
"But I knew better," she says. "They suggested drugs, but we wouldn't allow it."
She says he's Indigo.
For now, Matthew Melendez is in a half-day preschool where he is doing well, and Dina Melendez says the Indigo/ADHD debate is irrelevant.
Matthew, she says, has been a gift to her, and it won't matter if teachers don't see him as Indigo.
Meanwhile, Virtue predicts that no new Indigos will be born. Instead, she says, she's already beginning to see Crystal children, born with exceptional healing powers and the ability to communicate telepathically.
Their challenge, she says, "is that they may be misdiagnosed with autism."

Introduce me to anyone.. and a second after I see that person, I know if this is a "bad" person or a "good" person.

I cant explain why they are bad or good..but I am always right.

I use to smoke pot a few years ago.. and actually had to quit because it made me extremely more sensitive to the emotional well being and internal thoughts/moods of those around me. I can no longer take this drug with anyone because I find it very exhausting.

I've also found the same thing with being able to judge people quickly.

Pot brings it out more in me, in the weeks after smoking. Heavy smoking just clouds everything.


I had a very vivid vision over 10 years ago about the world falling apart, like an apocalypse, leaving only a small percentage of the population alive. The date when it was to happen I remember well: 3rd quarter of 2016. I'm very sceptical of this and if it comes true I'll probably have a heart attack!

I know things sometimes but I don't think it is my adhd. I think the fact that I don't pay attention to it at the moment is the adhd.

With every significant relationship I have ever had I could tell you the exact moment that I saw them and what I was thinking at that moment. Even if they didn't become significant for years. At the moment I saw them it meant nothing to me. Several years ago I realized the pattern. I have dated other people from high school, work places, ect. that you become aware of them gradually and as you get to know them you end up dating. I couldn't tell you anything about the first time I met them or saw them. It's only the people that have become significant to my heart for some reason. Half of the time it wasn't even a positive first impression but they ended up being important and my impression being wrong.

There have been other things too. Like having dreams and then it happening. Or meeting someone and realizing that they are connected to something I saw in the news before anything in the conversation would have told me that. Or a feeling of dread when there didn't appear to be a reason and then something happening.

i'm an empath and i hate it. i have enough of my own crazy feelings. i don't need everyone elses. i've been called selfish because i don't appreciate this "gift" but i really don't care for it.

I've also found the same thing with being able to judge people quickly.

Pot brings it out more in me, in the weeks after smoking. Heavy smoking just clouds everything.


I had a very vivid vision over 10 years ago about the world falling apart, like an apocalypse, leaving only a small percentage of the population alive. The date when it was to happen I remember well: 3rd quarter of 2016. I'm very sceptical of this and if it comes true I'll probably have a heart attack!LOL..you wont get time to have a heart attack A, you'll be dead too :D I think you were smoking toooo much pot that day :p

LOL..you wont get time to have a heart attack A, you'll be dead too :D I think you were smoking toooo much pot that day :p
haha maybe but the thing that struck me was how vivid it was and that the date was pretty specific. There were other details about what would happen, but I'll keep those to myself ;)
No use in ruining the ending for everyone :D

I am very much an "empath" as well. Most of the reason why I cant do drugs around people.

When I first started I was fine, laughing and having fun,... but the more I did it the worse it got... I hate drugs now, those ones anyways. hehe

I also notice that there are certain people that I am instantly drawn to. I dont why, but there is something about them that I dont necessarily find sexy/hot/cute etc.. just that there is some "connection" we would have either on a friendly level or an understanding level.

I cant explain it.. but I feel like a small percentage of those people (doesnt happen all the time, maybe there has been 10 people my entire life) Id say about 3 of those 10 people seemed to have that "connection" towards me aswell.

This was of course before actually talking with each other. Weird.
It was the way with my boyfriend that I have right now. I had an instant connection with him and I didnt even know him, and he had one back.
We have been together a long time..
strange.

Do you ever feel like you are so aware of someone elses feeling that if you neglect to recognize the fine line you tread on... you can actually witness yourself cross that line from the eyes or movements of the other person?

I had this happen to me quite a few times at a young age from a super sensitive family member. Needless to say it drove me nuts.. and eventually I just forced myself to ignore it. It was just too much.

I am glad someone finally mentioned this, I didn't have the nerve to. I do get really strong feelings about some people, I always know when people are pedophiles, alcoholics, abusers, etc. I used to ignore it, I ignored all the warnings about my ex-husband when I met him. Drinking and drugs make me too sensitive to these things too, which is why I try to avoid them. I can still drink if I am in a really carefree mood, but, if I am feeling intense, I feel so many things too strongly for my liking.

I remember telling a fried that was supposed to pick me up one time that I wanted anyone BUT her to come get me. She got really mad. Then, she called me an hour later crying. She said that she hit a patch of black ice and flipped over the truck she was in. The cops told her she should be glad no-one was with her, the passenger side was smashed all the way into the gear shift, anyone sitting there couldn't have lived.
How did I know that? I don't know, but, there are multiple stories like that in my life.
Good to know I am not alone.

I am glad someone finally mentioned this, I didn't have the nerve to. I do get really strong feelings about some people, I always know when people are pedophiles, alcoholics, abusers, etc. I used to ignore it, I ignored all the warnings about my ex-husband when I met him. Drinking and drugs make me too sensitive to these things too, which is why I try to avoid them. I can still drink if I am in a really carefree mood, but, if I am feeling intense, I feel so many things too strongly for my liking.
YES and do you find it hard to be civil to the person even though you don't have anything concrete and everyone else seems to like them?

I get it online too. Though I think sometimes other people notice it but just want to have a good time and not think about it.

I don't quite understand what is meant by an empath though. All I have to go by is that star trek character.
I do know that I can't be exposed to too much tragedy even the smallest form, or I become a depressed mess. The kids coming home and talking about another child getting their feelings hurt by someone. Someone walking into their home and discovering it robbed. I don't just feel bad for them but seem to experience every emotion that they must of felt at that moment on. I have to purposely cut myself off from the thoughts and feelings to function.
It used to cause me not to stand up for myself because I couldn't stand the idea of seeing the other person's face if I said no or whatever. Even if they were clearly not thinking about anyone else but themselves. I think that is part of the reason I stay angry in order to keep that cut off.

feeling what a person feels= empath. for me it's not fun.

Like Chele said, it's good to know I'm not the only one that feels these things.

I've put the empathy to good uses, I can quickly understand where someone is coming from. I've put it to use in my work in IT support roles to quickly troubleshoot problems especially when it's a case of the person calling not knowing how to do something. Other workmates get frustrated when the person can't explain the problem in terms IT people are used to. This has made it easy for me to support people of all levels e.g. Factory workers to CEOs.

I've also fallen into the role of counsellor for friends very often. Yes I feel their pain, and maybe that's why I want to help them. I also share their feelings of relief when we've talked through the problems. :D

boardtabitz,

Yes, I have found that people get mad when I see bad things about them. They get really, really mad. I guess people really don't like hearing the truth about themselves. We are used to it, people seem to be very open with us ADDers about how 'crazy' we are. I once told a guy when I was single that no, I couldn't date him because I wasn't comfy with the fact that I sensed he had a history of violence, he got REAL mad, then, when he cooled off, he asked me who told me, it turns out, he had gone to jail multiple times for beating up people.

Animal,
Do you have a hard time serving as counselor? I find that my emotions about what happens to other people gets way too intense, then, when they don't follow my advice (for example, a woman goes back to her boyfriend that hits her) I feel frustrated, like I wasted a bunch of time and effort.

Check out posts 1 and 2 on gregster's thread (chemical moderator) from April 05 --- 'why scientists say we can all read minds (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17248)' ...
Post 2 clarifies the idea of 'mirror neurone' --- it's a metaphor for function which does not require any special form of neurone --- to develop --- which does not require any special form of neurone to develop to provide us with this capacity.

When an individual talks to us - that individual attempts to place a copy of his 'question' 'idea' 'statement' within our head ... and when we reply - we attempt to place a copy of our 'reply' 'idea' 'statement' into his head.
The words which we use ... we hope ... will trigger a replication of those same ideas which're in our heads ... ... ... within their heads.
If I said 'the cat is a blue dog' ...to understand me... I need you to have a model for 'cat', 'blue', 'dog' in your mind ->->->-->->->-
[[[... and my communication with you wil become more and more complex ... as we see that we have multiple shared linguistic models (cat, blue, dog are 3 linguistic models ... cat and dog are closer linguistic models than, for instance cat and blue ... important to state (although obvious) ... because closeness of lingustic models will have knock-on consequences on the mechanism for storage of these models within our minds) ...]]]
->->->-->->->-which we can mobilize when we communicate.
Another example - I use the terms rrreality and RRReality absolutely non-interchangeably with some (here) ... and communication of some important ideas are impossible without this distinction ... and this, I guess is an example of how we each hold our own internal reality within our own heads ... and communication is a process of calling pre-stored procedures upon pre-stored objects ... communication is kinda' like invoking OO methods upon individually (each of us) instantiated objects (all different) ... all different despite being drawn from the same class ...
... or from another angle ... ... communication (oral (in this post :-))) is the process by which we attempt to replicate a pattern in our heads within another's' head(s).
In a sense - Laurie Anderson's 'language is a virus' ... can be understood by adopting this perspective.

The experiential perspective of ADDers being psychic, more empathic, intuitive ... all relate to our minds having a slightly more complex structure ... which allows the linguistic models to be stored more efficiently ... with the advantage that we can potentially form models describing ... in effect ... [i]more of reality.

Storing more of reality has many advantages ... communication becomes possible on a much deeper level, and we are capable of picking up on more in standard communication.

We may not be consciously aware of it - but still it holds ... improvements in communication arising through a more structurally complex mind ->-leads->-to->- awareness of information which our communicating partner might not want to yield ... maybe the communicating partner doesn't realise what he's communicating, or maybe there's subterfuge ... 'whatever, whichever, however' ... it doesn't really matter ...
... what does matter is that ...
... this awareness, in us ... feels as though we have special mental characteristics ... and we do :-) ... but they're not magical ... and are easily explained away ... all we need is the metalevel* ... the metalevel makes all of this (communication evolved...) possible.

*metalevel is an esoteric concept - explained many times over on the forum though ... please search for it ... if interested. It is simply a term for a structural component of a logical structure.
Our minds are logical structures ... ... ...
[i]
:-)

SB.

communication becomes possible on a much deeper level, and we are capable of picking up on more in standard communication.SB.


S,
Aren't you a sweetie for pointing that out.;)



Nova

Chele,

Sure it can be a bit hard, but I think I'd find it harder turning my back on my friends when they have problems.
It definately is frustrating when you invest so much time and effort and then your advice isn't taken. It's not so much wasted in cases like that, because they do hear you, and the information is taken in, just their attraction/attachment to that person is stronger. Very very frustrating at times!

psychic, more perceptive or just delusional?

While I do not doubt that many of you have an above average interpersonal perception, what I also see a lot in here, is a tendency towards kassandra-syndrome. I.e. you're gifted, but you have to run away from that perception because it is so scary, or because you cannot really help anyone anyway. This enables people to feel important, while avoiding to verify their perceptions in reality - thus protecting the delusion. It is also a common motive in schizophrenia.


Personally I avoid looking people into the eyes, only partially because I hate being frustrated by their fake emotions. Another aspect is that I don't know how to react to eye contact, or I don't want people to see my blank (idealization-less) stare.

kassandra-syndrome.
?????

?????

Not familiar with term myself but this is the eluded to meaning of the term usage according to the structure of writing (kid of like pointing pattern)

kassandra-syndrome

My translation guestemate meaning thereof:

This enables people to feel important, while avoiding to verify their perceptions in reality - thus protecting the delusion


While I find it interesting that this almost “opposing” (word finding problem) statement to be followed by :

Personally I avoid looking people into the eyes, only partially because I hate being frustrated by their fake emotions. Another aspect is that I don't know how to react to eye contact, or I don't want people to see my blank (idealization-less) stare.

Thus the word choice opposing .. .. .. .. as if opposing self Ah conflicting that is the word! Sorry words go in easier than they come out! :o

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I'm very sceptical of this and if it comes true I'll probably have a heart attack!

Doesn’t sound like you will have to resort to having a heart attack besides it would be very bad timing! It is in the medical code of contract that upon ending of the world all medical personnel including those in emergency room will be relieved of duty! (permanently)


LOL..you wont get time to have a heart attack A, you'll be dead too I think you were smoking toooo much pot that day

How many of you can see me shaking my chair laughing at this remark! :p



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She outlined four types of Indigos - humanist, conceptual, artist and interdimensional - who will become tomorrow's doctors, engineers, artists and religious leaders.

How about those acid flash backs!




As a result, many Indigos are wrongly identified as having attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD.

I prefer to the thought of as blissfully bouncy !



Instead of having their positive traits encouraged, Virtue says, the children are inappropriately treated with such drugs as Ritalin.

Well I have to admit this is more imaginative than the stupid Ritalin is a poisonous additive drug scare tactic.
Still same anti-drug thing sounds almost antidecipline not good. :soapbox:




"Even at 3," she says, "he has a real clear idea of what he wants and what would make things better."

Gee wait until he is 13. . . .the real fun begins! :eek:




Instead, she says, she's already beginning to see Crystal children, born with exceptional healing powers and the ability to communicate telepathically.
Their challenge, she says, "is that they may be misdiagnosed with autism."

Oh brother! :rolleyes:


Ingigo Children deja ve . . . . . . . .big time!

That left/right brain things previously mentioned sounds about right. I probably thought to look for a toy..

Actually I was reading a book “The Executive Brian” by Elkhonon Goldberg

Page 48

***Source Quote
“Musically Naïve people process music mostly with the right hemisphere. Trained Musicians however process music mostly with the left hemisphere. Sense most people are musically naïve the old notion linking music to the right hemisphere is supported, but only in a weak limited sense. The notion of an intrinsic obligatory link between music and hemisphere specialization is no longer tenable. Instead the side of processing musical information appears to be relative determined by the degree of musical training and prior exposure to music. Similar findings have been reported for faces. Obscure faces are processed mostly in the right hemisphere, in keeping with the traditional views. But familiar faces are processed mostly in the left hemisphere. Again we see relativity based on the novelty- routinization distinction. *** End Source Quote




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this awareness, in us ... feels as though we have special mental characteristics ... and we do :-) ... but they're not magical ...

Agreed thousand percent!

How about a ADHDed ideas tossing about? Feel free to disagree correct expand or simply blow off however you all see fit. . . . .in other wards this is me musing over how the pieces could fit together. I would enjoy other opinions even if the opinions do not agree with mine.

Okay being able to perceive what type of individual some one is with little exposure. Weather one has ADHD as in hyper or ADD as in inattentive or a combo how we collect information is vastly different than “NTer”. Thos of us who tend to be hyper take in all the external information at once unable to filter ignore or other wise not notice some thing. Now for those of us who were not diagnosis until adult hood we are talking about 20, 30 40 years of processing a huge amount of information constantly so our brain developed short cuts or patterns based upon small bits of information that filters in between all the other gazillion sights, sounds, smells ect. For those who have inattentive ADD the same would hold true except it is internal stimuli that can be as over whelming for you as the external stimuli is for us impulsives, combined ADDers (which are the majority) may tend to be “overly attuned” to either external or internal perhaps switching depending upon the surrounding.

For good, bad or neutral we all managed to collect information despite ADD (or maybe because) Like our vision is not really the whole picture we perceive to be it is a collection of stimuli out brain puts together to form the whole . . . .the same hold true for our perception of other things including people but because of the way our brains were designed (or made depending on POV) we learned to gather more information out of smaller chunks so to speak.

Okay now combine above paragraph with the idea that most ADD people according to the many threads here on ADDF on over excitable senses, or acute senses. We react strongly to the stimuli in our environment, okay the whole of our being is involved in the sensory sensitivity. Between the ability to gather a lot of information from small bits of unfiltered in coming information and the acute sensitivities to stimuli would this not account for some of the things shared on the thread.

My idea goes deeper still however I shall stop here; I would hate to write a bunch of stuff no one is interested in!

;) Sis, I am glad ya saw my tongue-in-cheekiness in that post. I certainly do not qualify as being born during the Indigo Age, and my "Indigos" are nothing like the description, and my 10 year old has no interest in Crystals at all. I think this statement was the pertinent one:

But educator Paula Moraine, faculty director at the Kimberton Waldorf School, says she's not sure there is such a thing as an Indigo. It is just as likely, she says, that parents are raising their children with more freedom of expression - certainly with more permissiveness.
Carroll and Tober's descriptors, she says, are "so vague that they encompass being human."
"You can find almost every child in those definitions."That more than adequately covers my upbringing and my children's.

As for our random noob, might help to correct the spelling when attempting to make a point ;).

**source quote**In Greek mythology, Cassandra ("she who entangles men") (also known as Alexandra) was a daughter of King Priam of Troy and his queen Hecuba, who captured the eye of Apollo and was granted the gift of prophecy. However, when she did not return his love, Apollo placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions.
A modern psychological perspective on Cassandra is presented by Eric Shanower in Age of Bronze: Sacrifice. In this version, Cassandra, as a child, is molested by a man pretending to be a god. His warning "No one will believe you!" is one often spoken by abusers to their child victims.
The Cassandra Syndrome is used to describe someone who believes that he or she can see the future but cannot do anything about it. Fictional character Dr. Kathryn Railly explores this syndrome and those who suffer from it in Twelve Monkeys.**end source quote**


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

I am highly intuitive, that's all I know.

Crazy :cool:

I am highly intuitive, that's all I know.

Shouldn't that have been:

My intuition tells me that I'm highly intuitive?

:)

Shouldn't that have been:

My intuition tells me that I'm highly intuitive?

:):p Smartypants!

Main Entry: in·tu·i·tion
Pronunciation: "in-tü-'i-sh&n, -tyü-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English intuycyon, from Late Latin intuition-, intuitio act of contemplating, from Latin intuEri to look at, contemplate, from in- + tuEri to look at
1 : quick and ready insight
2 a : immediate apprehension or cognition b : knowledge or conviction gained by intuition c : the power or faculty of attaining to direct knowledge or cognition without evident rational thought and inference

Ergo, I know ;).

Crazy :cool:

There was something on TV today called "My Child's Psychic" and there was a boy with ADHD and he went to see a doctor and she said something about ADHD and a part of our brain and their has been evidence that, that part of our brain might have something to do with ESP.

Wow that was really hard to explain, sorry if it doesnt make sense lol.

Heres the link to the website anyway:

http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/W/weirdworlds/x_ray/

"Oliver's mother is not sure if her eight-year old son's ability to see the dead is real or merely the product of an over-active imagination. Oliver has a medical diagnosis of Attention Deficit Disorder but psychics and healers have dubbed him as a misunderstood Indigo Child. Do Oliver's concentration problems stem from psychic disturbance? His mother opts for a middle ground and tries the alternative technique of "neruofeedback" to help Oliver's symptoms – whatever the cause of them."

As for our random noob, might help to correct the spelling when attempting to make a point

The post indicated that predicting the future was a delusion, as much was being posted about predictions made in the past (much easier to predict the future when it becomes the past) . This where I got my definition of it’s meaning. Honestly I made no attempt to look it up.

I do believe the information you provided my help answer the original question.


Sis, I am glad ya saw my tongue-in-cheekiness in that post.

I am glad you were not offended of my perspective thereof. For a few of us the mentioning of Indigo children was deja ve thus I think you made an interesting posting choice.(considering you were not yet a member during the time in which I speak)

Few more swallows of coffee maybe I can find the hyperlinks that will increase understanding .


Why are ADD/HD children and adults so often socially inept ? (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22322&highlight=Indigo)

Post 11 and 12, mentions Indigo children

Think the above is still an open thread.

The indigo children reminded me the most of the following thread which is now closed. For awhile the time spent moderating it competed with my part time job, despite the fact all three of us moderators were involved (Ms Sunshine wasn't a moderator in general ADD at the time of this thread)

Etiology of ADHD (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19793&page=4&pp=15&highlight=Indigo)

Indigo children was mentioned in

post 50 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=238573&postcount=50) ,post 56 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=238586&postcount=56) ,post 61 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=238704&postcount=61) and post 92 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=238890&postcount=92)

Specific post with indigo children hyperlinked for those who who may not want to read the entire thread just to figure out what the fry I am talking about. Some members here will only need to read the thread title to know exactly what I mean!

The world falling apart hey?....maybe it's just wishful thinking:p who knows...I sure hope you're dead wrong on this one!! whilst on the subject yes I do experience this on a regular basis as well especially with interpersonal relationships for example I can know almost straight away if a guy is right for me or not and I can also tell if someone's been abused, uses drugs, has ADD/ADHD sometimes just by looking at them.

Here's one, I was 8 or 9 years old and my late grandmother was coming down the stairs to give Poppy some vitamin pills and suddenly I got this premonition that she would die before Poppy, more strangely I remember my youngest cousin Sheree asking me "who do you think will die first out of Grandma and Poppy" and even thought I was certain I knew I didn't tell her and just replied "I don't know" and shrugged my shoulders, at 11am on the 9th of August 1997 my grandmother passed away due to sickness....she died before Poppy, I was only 17 and it was one of the saddest times of my life but I'm at peace with it as I feel her spirit around me at times

More recently I was involved in an online flirtation....yes I don't know what it is about me and that but anyway, this ended badly but we've since gotten back in contact (NOT in "that" way and the boundaries have been drawn clearly) and just before contact happened I got this feeling that things with this overseas girlfriend went sour with her her ending the relationship...well when this friend and I spoke again I found out that it was her that ended the relationship and that he didn't take it too well as I thought...so things happened pretty much the way I "felt" it would.

I've had many other experiences like this as well but I just can't think of them off the top of my head...but this is an interesting thread, I'm surprised I didn't pay that much attention to it before.

Selena:)

psychic, more perceptive or just delusional?

While I do not doubt that many of you have an above average interpersonal perception, what I also see a lot in here, is a tendency towards kassandra-syndrome. I.e. you're gifted, but you have to run away from that perception because it is so scary, or because you cannot really help anyone anyway. This enables people to feel important, while avoiding to verify their perceptions in reality - thus protecting the delusion. It is also a common motive in schizophrenia.


Personally I avoid looking people into the eyes, only partially because I hate being frustrated by their fake emotions. Another aspect is that I don't know how to react to eye contact, or I don't want people to see my blank (idealization-less) stare.

I knew Ados was gonna write this.

(Get it? I'm psychic! Oh, never mind.):p

As "confirmed" by a personality type poll I did, the majority of people with ADHD are extra perceptive and intuitive compared to most people, and a good portion are also more 'feeling' rather than 'thinking' (not to be confused with emotional rather than logical, though I suppose there is a weak relationship). You'd have to check the test for the definitions of these terms.

Hahaha fun topic!

I've felt like something big is comming. I've always been able to make predictions. When I was young there was a TV show on being psychic. It was on late at night and the guy on tv said to test your psychic ability by trying to have you guess the shape on a flash card he held up and was gonna reveal at the end of the show. I said it was squiggly lines but a second later I got all serious and said "no no..its a square". Well I went to bed before the show ended but my mother woke me up kinda freaked saying "It was a square!" But i knew that already and just went to bed.

Now it seems like when I have to guess I see all the possibilities in my head but one sticks out more than the rest but I know it's pretty much BS since I haven't won the lottery yet. I've lost alot of money on Keno testing my theory haha.

Currently I secretly use my feeling of society collapsing sometime in the future as an excuse to pursue one of my passions, gun collecting hahaha. These things are expensive so you NEED a good excuse. So when riots start breaking out and before everything goes all 1997 The Postman starring Kevin Costner or zombies start roaming the country side, I'll be making a mad dash to libraries on my personal mission to collect and preserve humanities knowlage.

(My doctor is a such a flake, she needs to fill out my damn perscription! I just read what I wrote and even I think it's strange.)

I don't believe in phychics or magical thinking, i think its all crap and very unhealthy. But i have dreams and visions that come true and for some bizzare reason i can write down on a piece of paper who is going to win the Melbourne Cup (horse race in Oz) when i see them walking around in the ring five minutes before the race. Last year it was a horse that was completely dismissed and had long odds. (But did i have time to get down to the TAB?? Of course not!!!) Don't understand this at all - how do you dream of something that hasn't happened yet??? That does not make sense to me.:confused:
Have come to the somewhat unscientific conclusion that life is just playing with me because its bored and needs a distraction.

http://www.machineslikeus.com/cms/news/intuition-more-just-hunch (http://www.machineslikeus.com/cms/news/intuition-more-just-hunch)

Most of us experience ‘gut feelings’ we can’t explain, such as instantly loving -- or hating -- a new property when we’re househunting or the snap judgements we make on meeting new people. Now researchers at Leeds say these feelings -- or intuitions -- are real and we should take our hunches seriously. According to a team led by Professor Gerard Hodgkinson of the Centre for Organisational Strategy, Learning and Change at Leeds University Business School, intuition is the result of the way our brains store, process and retrieve information on a subconscious level and so is a real psychological phenomenon which needs further study to help us harness its potential.
There are many recorded incidences where intuition prevented catastrophes and cases of remarkable recoveries when doctors followed their gut feelings. Yet science has historically ridiculed the concept of intuition, putting it in the same box as parapsychology, phrenology and other ‘pseudoscientific’ practices.
Through analysis of a wide range of research papers examining the phenomenon, the researchers conclude that intuition is the brain drawing on past experiences and external cues to make a decision -- but one that happens so fast the reaction is at a non-conscious level. All we’re aware of is a general feeling that something is right or wrong.
“People usually experience true intuition when they are under severe time pressure or in a situation of information overload or acute danger, where conscious analysis of the situation may be difficult or impossible,” says Prof Hodgkinson.
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He cites the recorded case of a Formula One driver who braked sharply when nearing a hairpin bend without knowing why -- and as a result avoided hitting a pile-up of cars on the track ahead, undoubtedly saving his life.
“The driver couldn’t explain why he felt he should stop, but the urge was much stronger than his desire to win the race,” explains Professor Hodgkinson. “The driver underwent forensic analysis by psychologists afterwards, where he was shown a video to mentally relive the event. In hindsight he realised that the crowd, which would have normally been cheering him on, wasn’t looking at him coming up to the bend but was looking the other way in a static, frozen way. That was the cue. He didn’t consciously process this, but he knew something was wrong and stopped in time.”
Prof Hodgkinson believes that all intuitive experiences are based on the instantaneous evaluation of such internal and external cues -- but does not speculate on whether intuitive decisions are necessarily the right ones.
“Humans clearly need both conscious and non-conscious thought processes, but it’s likely that neither is intrinsically ‘better’ than the other,” he says.
As a Chartered occupational psychologist, Prof Hodgkinson is particularly interested in the impact of intuition within business, where many executives and managers claim to use intuition over deliberate analysis when a swift decision is required. “We’d like to identify when business people choose to switch from one mode to the other and why -- and also analyse when their decision is the correct one. By understanding this phenomenon, we could then help organisations to harness and hone intuitive skills in their executives and managers.”
The research is published in the current issue of the British Journal of Psychology.

I was just struck by the title of this thread...isn't being "psychic" exactly being "more perceptive."

:D

I was just struck by the title of this thread...isn't being "psychic" exactly being "more perceptive."

:D

I would say psychic is akin to extrasensory perception.

I would say psychic is akin to extrasensory perception.
I suppose that is my point ... "extrasensory perception" means "beyond/outside perception by senses" but one is still percieving...so by definition, by being beyond-sensory perceptive, one is extra perceptive; thus, more perceptive.

It seems to be the case that psychic = esp = more perceptive...as stated.

:D

I suppose that is my point ... "extrasensory perception" means "beyond/outside perception by senses" but one is still percieving...so by definition, by being beyond-sensory perceptive, one is extra perceptive; thus, more perceptive.

It seems to be the case that psychic = esp = more perceptive...as stated.

:D

It's all a big argument of semantics.

I take the unqualified term "perception" to relate to awareness through the ordinary physical senses. So to me, saying "more perceptive" doesn't disqualify the use of ordinary senses and promote the use of extraordinary non-physical senses.

It's all a big argument of semantics.

I take the unqualified term "perception" to relate to awareness through the ordinary physical senses. So to me, saying "more perceptive" doesn't disqualify the use of ordinary senses and promote the use of extraordinary non-physical senses.

I agree with you 100% when you say that saying "'more perceptive' doesn't disqualify the use of ordinary senses and promote the use of extraordinary non-physical senses."

I mean, why would it? Right?

A person who doesn't need glasses, who has perfect 20/20 vision, is clearly more perseptive with "ordinary senses" than another person who is forgets to wear their glasses and is legally blind without them. In exactly the same way, if a person is said to have "extra-sensory" perception, than its also being said, quite literally, that the person with esp is also more perceptive than one who doesn't, which is what I was saying. So we seem to agree! Yay!

I might say that we agree entirely, but I am confused by what you mean when you say, "take the unqualified term "perception" to relate to awareness through the ordinary physical senses." In saying that, you are doing the opposite of what you say you are doing. You say you are taking the "unqualified term perception" and qualifying it by "relating it to awareness through the ordinary senses." It seems like that's the equivilent of screaming, "I never scream!" or whispering "I shall not whisper." I can't imagine that's what you're doing, but since I'm not sure what you were saying (because I know you weren't trying to be hypocritical), I'm left wondering meant.

Anyway, like I said it seems that we agree. If "psychic" somehow means "over and above" or "in addition to the ordinary senses, then the term psychic effectively means more perceptive."

It was just a little thought I had, that's all.
:)

Allow me to clarify. Perhaps my use of 'qualify' was confusing. What I mean that when you have the term 'perception' and you modify it with the adverb 'more', it doesn't modify the meaning of 'perception' to include the use of the extraordinary senses.

I'm not sure if I've ever experianced this in real life, but it happens all the time in my writing. I'll construct some insignifigant event or character trait that has little or nothing to do with the main plot yet, way down the line, that event or trait will suddenly come into play! I didn't mean for it to, but somehow it just fit. Maybe it is just "writer's instinct" as I've been calling it, but then again...

Naw, I'm sure I'm just being silly.

Yeah,
I feel that people don't know me..
That I know them,
better than themselves, actually . . .

They actually think that I'm anxious,
and that I talk about what I don't know
(well at least I'm not angry, nor dreadful, nor pompous):)

I have felt very very responsive to the environment..

I have experienced many instances of PREMONITION..

I see "perceptual" as becoming different from "judgemental"..


Perception (positive)=benign judgement of sorts
Judgementalism(negative)=intentionally seeking this, but not that
Judgement=subject to judgement
Perception=seeking, knowing w/o knowing.. (external consequences not intentional, but not a mistake--->Pyschic)..

i have had one dream that came true years later in EXTREME detail. we moved and then the new house was renovated and a porch was built and it looked EXACTLY like it did in my dream, flower patches and all.

also this makes me sound crazy (i think it's bloody weird) when i was little 4th grade i think at the end of lunch sometimes we would bet with pennies on which side a quarter would land on and for i think it was around 5min i got it right every single time before it landed. i told one of my friends about this a year or so ago so we tested it scientifically and i got the penny flip thingy 100% of the time. one time the penny landed on its side and rolled before flipping over and i felt it stuck in the middle of heads or tails and then flip over...it was weird...i still don't think it'll work if i try it again

i promise im not crazy...i think

ive also always had the feeling that a large chunk of the world is giong to be wiped out too from some sort of probably natural disaster
although logically it should be nukes