View Full Version : Anyone tried "Native Remedies"?


mike12
07-17-06, 01:15 PM
We have just started a Homeopathic alternative from Nativeremedies.com and I was wondering if anyone here has tried it and can give their experiences please? It is a little expensive but we prefer to try this all natural with no side effects system than the risky/painful medicine the Docs recommend.

Imnapl
07-17-06, 02:39 PM
we prefer to try this all natural with no side effects system than the risky/painful medicine the Docs recommend.Even "natural" treatments have side effects. Which meds are risky / painful?? :confused:

mike12
07-17-06, 03:02 PM
Even "natural" treatments have side effects. Which meds are risky / painful?? :confused:
On this link
http://nativeremedies.com/brightspark_for_add.shtml

Nativeremedies claim

"without the risk of addiction, drowsiness and other side effects"

Regarding you question asking "which meds are risky/painful", this is from my other thread:

"Now this is just pure coincidence, when we came home yesterday [we were due back today], I got an email notification from another College forum which I subscribe to trying to help my collegebound 17 year old son and this was the latest post from a college student

"ADHD drugs..nope..nope..nope!! wth is wrong w/ u people?? jkjk ive seen how its affected me and my add/hd friends..they do terrible things I was once on ritalin when i was 4 i became a stick my mom vowed to never put me on it again..ive been on certain ones...I even tried Strattera but the side affects r extremely painful!! I had to get off it it was helpful but i was about to go on an adventure program and having all these problems wasnt going to help and it was to hurtful!"

My 17 year old told me he feels like a "zombie" when on these meds of which he had tried all of them which is why I am trying the Homeopathic alternative.

sepialady
07-17-06, 03:04 PM
Even "natural" treatments have side effects. Which meds are risky / painful?? :confused:
Homepathic means there are no side effects. Most products that use homeopathic in the label somewhere are saying homeopathically diluted. That kind of dilution of the substance means NO SIDE EFFECTS.

Imnapl
07-17-06, 03:06 PM
I got an email notification from another College forum which I subscribe to trying to help my collegebound 17 year old son and this was the latest post from a college studentMike, thanks for clarifying the source of your information. :cool:

mike12
07-17-06, 03:27 PM
You're welcome, thanks Sepialady, for explaining to us what "Homeopathic" really means, I never knew that, only thing I gathered from the word was that it meant no side effects but never knew why.

When I look at this whole thing of "are meds harmful/painful", from an objective point of view after having read conflicting stories from kids the conclusion is that this is an individual thing, I have read many stories where kids claim not to have many or any side effects from meds and it is not painful for them but reading that so many [including my older son] do find meds painful this really scares me where my 6 year old is concerned since he is not old enough to give an accurate account of the effects of the meds, since our Insurance covers the major cost of the meds and now we have to pay for the expensive Homeopathic alternative out of our pocket, you can tell how greatly affected we are by this issue of med-related pain.

Will let you guys know how this turns out with our young son in a couple of months, mainly at the end of September after a month of School, will we know how effective this is.

Imnapl
07-17-06, 03:44 PM
Mike12, well my adult son and I don't find meds painful, but then, we're not teenagers.

mike12
07-17-06, 03:51 PM
Exactly, that's what I mean, many don't seem to find meds painful but an equal amount do so if you belong to the group that do then an alternative to meds is a must.

ummagumma
07-17-06, 03:51 PM
"ADHD drugs..nope..nope..nope!! wth is wrong w/ u people?? jkjk ive seen how its affected me and my add/hd friends..they do terrible things I was once on ritalin when i was 4 i became a stick my mom vowed to never put me on it again..ive been on certain ones...I even tried Strattera but the side affects r extremely painful!! I had to get off it it was helpful but i was about to go on an adventure program and having all these problems wasnt going to help and it was to hurtful!"Personally, I think his story would make a superb medication ad: "If you don't want your kid to end up like this (edited for offensive labeling) ask your doctor about Ritalin today!"

Anyway, homeopathic remedies don't have any effects, period. They don't hurt--or help--any more than a glass of water, because that's all they are.

Crazy~Feet
07-17-06, 03:56 PM
Mike12, well my adult son and I don't find meds painful, but then, we're not teenagers.Nor do I and my 10 year old, who cannot be classfied as a teacher.

Too much propaganda out there about addiction to stimulants used as ADHD medication IMO. The opposite seems to be true, those of us who need stims to get clarity can and do seek illegal drugs to stimulate us.

Scary stuff. If it isn't hurting, go on and use it, but pain is in the mind of the ADHD person, not the parent.

Many drugs to try and some may not work for others. Proper medication at the proper dose does not result in a zombified state, but heroin and marijuana certainly can.

Just my 2C.

Crazy

Imnapl
07-17-06, 04:42 PM
Comment Removed By Moderator:confused: From the same place I did? :confused:


When I look at this whole thing of "are meds harmful/painful", from an objective point of view after having read conflicting stories from kids the conclusion is that this is an individual thing, I have read many stories where kids claim not to have many or any side effects from meds and it is not painful for them but reading that so many [including my older son] do find meds painful . . .

FrazzleDazzle
07-17-06, 05:07 PM
As far as homeopathy, for some it can work, for others they try with no luck at all. I belong to another forum, and one child did experience some untoward side-effects from homeopathy, so they say. My son was under the care of homeopathy about 2 years ago, and we didn't see the results we were looking for. However, I was under the care for homonal problems, and I have been set straight ever since, for 12 years now. I would definitely do it again when "the change" sets in! Some say if there are results, it's just a placebo. Well, that's fine with me, I still got even better results than I was hoping for.

I don't know about nativeremedies, but I would encourage you to go to a qualified, well-established practitioner, as the remedies are very individulized.

Crazy~Feet
07-17-06, 05:14 PM
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Whoa! Hang on I read the same post:

[mike12]"ADHD drugs..nope..nope..nope!! wth is wrong w/ u people?? jkjk ive seen how its affected me and my add/hd friends..they do terrible things I was once on ritalin when i was 4 i became a stick my mom vowed to never put me on it again..ive been on certain ones...I even tried Strattera but the side affects r extremely painful!! I had to get off it it was helpful but i was about to go on an adventure program and having all these problems wasnt going to help and it was to hurtful!"[/quote]


Underlining provided my me. Certain ones, this is nothing new to any of us who have played "the medication game". Please see my post here:

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29706


Concerta, Ritalin LA, Metadate, IR Ritalin et. al. are all forms of methylphenidate. Clearly only one of them works for me, and at a very high dosage I might add. While Metadate is also methylphenidate, I react terribly to it, and in fact Metadate is well-known to work very well for some patients and terribly for others.

There are other stimulants, non-stimulants, etc. all have been scientifically proven to provide relief from symptoms of ADHD in various individuals with varying doses prescribed.


Furthermore, an alternative to meds is not a "must" by any stretch of the imagination. DR. Hallowell himself finds no medications to be effective for him, and he certainly does NOT claim that any homeopathic remedies can make a difference for him {Delivered From Distraction, Hallowell & Ratey}. This man has been in the field a long time and is ADHD himself. He might be the type of expert to refer to IMO.

Crazy (old mod habits die hard)

sepialady
07-17-06, 05:18 PM
When I look at this whole thing of "are meds harmful/painful", from an objective point of view after having read conflicting stories from kids the conclusion is that this is an individual thing, I have read many stories where kids claim not to have many or any side effects from meds and it is not painful for them but reading that so many [including my older son] do find meds painful this really scares me where my 6 year old is concerned since he is not old enough to give an accurate account of the effects of the meds, since our Insurance covers the major cost of the meds and now we have to pay for the expensive Homeopathic alternative out of our pocket, you can tell how greatly affected we are by this issue of med-related pain.

Imnapl, I think you missed the best part of that quote. He is thinking about this product (I assume) for his 6 year old. And made the point that a child at that age may not be able to express any problems from the medications. A 6 year old has a limited vocabulary when it comes to describing side effects of drugs.

Crazy~Feet Quote:
Many drugs to try and some may not work for others. Proper medication at the proper dose does not result in a zombified state, but heroin and marijuana certainly can.

How many 6 year olds do you worry about having a herion or marijuana addiction?

Imnapl
07-17-06, 05:58 PM
Imnapl, I think you missed the best part of that quote. He is thinking about this product (I assume) for his 6 year old. And made the point that a child at that age may not be able to express any problems from the medications. A 6 year old has a limited vocabulary when it comes to describing side effects of drugs.I know this thread will disappear from this forum into cyberspace just as one from last night did, but what the hey, eh?

Sepialady, I also know angry adolescents and adults in therapy because they did not have the opportunity to try medication as children. It's a free country. I really don't care if people do or don't take medication. I do care that people don't propogate myths and misinformation and that parents make informed choices on behalf of their children.

HighFunctioning
07-17-06, 06:03 PM
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