Got to thinking last night... I was reading about how many people after years of treament feel frustrated by their continued symptoms. Like being trapped in a world of disorganization, clutter, etc.

Do you feel "trapped" by the symptoms of your ADHD? Why or why not?
Did you feel "trapped" before treatment and "get out" with treatment?

The mix of emotions that I feel about ADD and my life because of ADD is OVERWHELMING to say the least. Trapped would be just one of a long list.

Before I was diagnosed I always felt like I was trying so hard and getting nowhere. I felt trapped by life.

Now that I know what ADD is, here I am again. Trying so hard......

At least now I have a target to aim for, where before I did not. I also have lots of books and web sites to read to tell me what I should or should not be doing to fit in. :) I also have friends and family that like me just the way am.


So I guess that the word trapped does not apply to me any more. Sure I feel trapped some times. I think we all do. But overall life is better knowing what ADD is all about and getting a little help from my friends, including Mr. Adderall. :D

Yes. I get SO tired of dealing with my issues sometimes. I'm realizing that there are some things about myself that I will never be able to change... on the otherhand, some things I can change. I thik everyone has to deal with that to some extent.
For us, I guess we are twice blessed. :eek:

Thus far I have been adopting the tactic of working around anythign that I can't overcome directly. Anything goes, and if it works I keep doing it.

I refuse to let myself feel defeated by my condition. It is my intention to live my life as best I can, so I really can't afford to be my own worst enemy.

With all that in mind, attitude matters, I think. :)

ME :D


Got to thinking last night... I was reading about how many people after years of treament feel frustrated by their continued symptoms. Like being trapped in a world of disorganization, clutter, etc.

Do you feel "trapped" by the symptoms of your ADHD? Why or why not?
Did you feel "trapped" before treatment and "get out" with treatment?

I feel trapped sometimes, but it lasts for about 45 seconds. I feel that, after awhile of being Dx'd, I got more comfy in my skin. I got more secure in my strength to adapt. For years I thought that the only other ADDers out there were toddlers, but, now that I have so many pals that speak the same language as I, I really don't ever feel trapped for long.

Wow! This is an interesting question! Hmmmm. . . I would have to say NO probably. That is, I don't feel trapped with my ADHD! I have ALWAYS lived this way and I had NEVER thought that I was any different than anyone else. Then - when I kept seeing, reading, hearing all this ADHD information I said, "OMG - that is ME!" And I got really excited because I have been in therapy for about half my life (:o) but never found much substantial relief from what others would point out as my "depression."

"OH, you're feeling OVERWHELMED by the mess in your house. You must be depressed." "Girl, when you gonna clean out that car??? Are you depressed?" "Wow! How can you WORK in this mess?" "Whatta ya mean you got PILES everywhere?? You sound DEPRESSED!" "Helllloooooo, Yoo-hoo, Sue!!! Over here!! You OK??" Those responses NEVER went away no matter how much therapy, exercise, Prozac, organic foods, supplements, therapy, etc. I felt better after seeing a psychologist who specializes in ADHD - and he and I went through a pretty lengthy evaluation process which DID indicate some ADHD.

I DID find someone who'd prescribe a stimulant ADHD med to me - but I think its ability to help me has started dwindling. But it WAS good for the first few years. Anyway - I guess I still don't really feel certain that I HAVE ADHD, and I also wonder about alot of others I know who suddenly have ADHD as adults too. To me - all these anecdotes about putting your hairbrush in the fridge, not remembering why you're at the supermarket, driving downtown but not remembering why - all sounds within the realm of NORMAL to me. But maybe that's because I'm ADHD????:eyebrow:

No i dont think i have ever felt trapped, iv been born like this, iv lived like this for 18 years this month i found out about ADD and it was like switching a lightbulb on, everything made perfect sence as to why i worked to differently to others, i never knew i was any different, i did seem to have difficulties but thought it was normal and everyone had the same problems, however i never talked about it and found out later, now, that they didnt!

im not medicted but now i understand why i work in the way i do and that has helped me to not feel trapped, however when i go to college in spet it may be a different thing....lets see shall we, ill keep you updated!

i understand what you mean 'trapped' your ADD stops you from functioning the way you want to therefore it makes you feel trapped, if you think of in a less negative way maybe and think to yourself that you just need to learn things differently and organize your self more than others because their brains organize themself automatically, i dont know if your like me, but mine doesnt therefore i need to keep myself very oraganized to achieve anything i want to do eg keep a little notepad on you at all times and make a check list of things YOU MUST do, and make damn sure you do them......i know living like this is'nt easy!im actually going to the docs 2moro to see if they can help me! i doubt they will they will probably tell me im lazy or have another learning disability like everyone else down the line lol!

haha iv just rememebered in primary school i remember having to go for the 'special' classes for maths and english and they said i didnt have dyxlexia(the only thing they notice in a learning environment) but that it was due to having Italian relatives that i learnt in this way, WHAT THE HELL? so ebcause im Italian that makes me loose focus on whatever is being said to me and make sme in a constant state of dreaming....anyway thats another story!

i hope iv helped answer your question :)

~Maz

*HUGS*
xXx

trapped...............I feel trapped most often when I expect myself to be able to function as a "normal" person would. I see how seemingly smoothly others work, play, organize, chit-chat, etc. and then feel that I "should" be able to do the same. I am glad that I now know the source of most of my life-long frustrations. However, even when acknowledging the ADD, I often don't make allowances for myself and still feel I "should" (there's that word again) be able to be more efficient, organized, social, calm, focused, yadayadayada.:faint: When I can make allowances or work around myself, I don't feel quite as trapped.
So the moral of this story is:

DON'T "SHOULD" ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!

tristan:cool:

I realized last week that ADD has played a role in my being a spending addict. It is hard to pursue my interests because it is hard to set priorities, hard to figure out what to do first, hard to get back on task. I would avoid the word "trapped" because it does not sound hopeful. I really did not give my ADD much thought until last week when I was confronting the fact I have been overspending for a number of years. Now I think I must spend more time pondering how to function more productively so I can do more positive things with my time than shop on the internet. It is so easy and pleasurable to shop (in the short run). I did buy a book on self-management for ADDers and am hoping to do more practical things to function better.

Got to thinking last night... I was reading about how many people after years of treament feel frustrated by their continued symptoms. Like being trapped in a world of disorganization, clutter, etc.

Do you feel "trapped" by the symptoms of your ADHD? Why or why not?
Did you feel "trapped" before treatment and "get out" with treatment?I wasn't diagnosed until middle-age so I'm not sure if that affects my perspective.

Trapped? Yes: when I was an adolescent and young adult trying to keep all the balls in the air.

Trapped? No and Yes: when I married a man who accepted me and was able to be more flexible as a stay at home mom.

Trapped? No: I found the perfect job for me and medication made it even better. Age has made me more mellow and more comfortable in my skin.

Got to thinking last night... I was reading about how many people after years of treament feel frustrated by their continued symptoms. Like being trapped in a world of disorganization, clutter, etc.

Do you feel "trapped" by the symptoms of your ADHD? Why or why not?
Did you feel "trapped" before treatment and "get out" with treatment?Trapped in a Farmer society sums it up for me, that and what Speedo said.

Trapped me more before I had my DX, and my DX set me free to be me, and me=ADHD with all its ups and downs.

I feel like my family may be trapped by my acceptance LOL. And hey, they create plenty of piles and clutter and problems in their own ways. Nobody in my home is NT though :rolleyes:.

Crazy :cool:

I was reading about how many people after years of treatment feel frustrated by their continued symptoms

Some days I am frustrated with my symptoms of ADD, every day I have to write some thing I feel frustrated by my symptoms of dyslexia, every four to five hours I feel extremely frustrated by my hypoglycemia. Then there are those wonderful days I am simply frustrated by life in general along with a general dislike of most carbon based units within a 100 mile radius.





Did you feel "trapped" before treatment and "get out" with treatment?

Before diagnosis I felt “bothered” by some thing that no one seemed to be able to do any thing about. I would feel dissatisfied like having a bur on the cuff of your sock, not an overt feeling just a feeling of “rubbing that wasn’t quiet right”

Some time I would have difficulty containing my emotions, and I became even more frustrated some times when other people tried to tell me to “just chill”. Went ape-barzerk when people tried to control me.

I knew I had a hard time sitting down and shutting up where others did not seem to have the problem. I always wondered how people could sit for hours without hurting, listen forever without sharing their thoughts out loud. I always wished I was better about shutting up, :o in class I wished I could sit through one.

I wished I had more control over insight I could have it when I felt I needed it instead of when it decided to strike. I was frustrated by the fact I spent 80% of my waking hours looking for what I had in my hand five minutes ago.

I didn’t feel trapped (I wiggled to much) I simply did not understand why I could do not these things. I often felt disappointed in myself, because I felt I was less than and I did not understand why. I do not think I had the attention span to feel trapped.

Medication and learning about ADHD made me feel #1 I was born the wrong sex. My ADHD symptoms resemble those of males than of other females. #2 I had more incite into the how’s and whys, I began liking myself instead of feeling inferior #3 opened up a range of abilities I did not know I had #4 I could sit still longer before it began hurting so I could make it through more things like classes and meetings without being a disruption.




Do you feel "trapped" by the symptoms of your ADHD? Why or why not?

I learned the ADD way about feeling trapped: via experience:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ~You are as trapped as you perceive your self to be. ~

I felt trapped and dependant on Gary even as recent as my membership start time. He betrayed me in a bad way about two years ago, I became one pi**ed off, angry ADHDer, decided I wasn’t going to be dependant or trapped by him any more. The moment I decided that I was no longer trapped or helpless I wasn’t…….. I had to feel free before I began making choices like some one who was free. The choices allowed the internal rrreality of independence to become the external RRReality that exist today . . .now it is he that often borrows money from me even through he makes more! (I manage mine better)

It is all in the perception ---> which steers attitude ---> that influences direction !!!


Trapped in a Farmer society sums it up for me,that and what Speedo said.

What Speedo, Crazy~Feet and Imnapl said!

'trapped' - but not a classical 'trapped'
more the feeling of wanting to kick one's mind into top gear and over-revvvvvv the beast ... ... ... just not possible unless one finds oneself within certain arenas of thought ...
simple as this ... take a Ducati Monster 100m from cold to a little further down your street - every day ... no further ... ... ... and after a while ... the Monster will cease to roar ...
the feelings of being trapped alleviate when you find some area of academic interest into which you can lose yourself for ever on end ... tentative suggestions of consciousness and quantum physics ... heck how about 'quantum consciousness' ... sounds kinda' fun, and deep an'all ... ... ...

SB.

feelings of being trapped alleviate when you find some area of academic interest into which you can lose yourself for ever on end

Hmmm finding some thing one is interested in thus tendency to be good at and using that avenue to “escape” the feeling of being trapped. :rolleyes: What a wonderfully practical suggestion . . . most excellent idea going on there! :D

freedom to roam comes with certain territories - finding that territory is the key - and for sure it'll be fun, will be the mindscape which captures your *interest* - and well - maybe sometimes a little overpowering - maybe sometimes intimidating - maybe fear of loss (of oneself) - but heck --- that's what the rest of us are for ... I've even gotten me a new gps --- and so as long as the satellites aren't asleep - all'll be cool :-) ... honest!

s
b
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trapped. No, not trapped. No, trapped.
I never understood why I was alive and never felt like I belonged, always waiting for something. I would have volunteered to be taken by aliens in a heart beat.
Having children seemed to take all those concerns away from me. Not much existential crapola after that.
I was working when I was like 10. Cutting the grass for neighbors, shoveling snow. I worked ever since. I was never to be dependent on anyone and still. Except I don't think I'd do well without Randy covering my back. He's the perfect guy to have when 'trapped' on some island....
Me, controlled? Well, I guess that's why my stints of unemployment have occured these last coupla years. Ok, trapped by not finding a job that I can live with.

Then depression, etc and ADD.
Ahhhh, depressed etc because of the ADD and the frustrations that go along with failing to interact with others well- especially those that didn't 'get it.' I would never get rid of my ADD=hyperfocus. This has really facilitated my freedom.
I was lucky enough to LOVE controlling hardware with software - so I honed those talents until I was awesome...a legend in my own mind... friends? bridges? no time, no time. do, do, do and do some more and raise 3 sons and my husband and a minagerie. They played with the money and I got paid for playing in my realm. I then was trapped with sustaining that certain lifestyle for the family and for all those reasons that make you part of society - but not for myself.

So I pulled the plug and moved them all out to Kahleeforrneeeaaaahhhhh. Yikes - what a mess that created. Man, have I gotten punished for it, too. And then I rrrrrrrrreally went down the tubes... Switching out all these different meds, having withdrawals without knowing it, my immune system went totally whacked. I've known about my having HCV since the early 1970's.
Every picture I every took for school, getting married, I had lips in bloom from herpes.
But now, no job where I can hyperfocus, so I'm trapped here, spending my house downpayment... oh and the housing market here... totally trapped out of it.
Trapped by the maladies. Trapped by the meds. Adderall is probably what I'm afraid of losing.
Trapped by life? Every day above ground is good. Whenever Randy and I would fight, it would result in, nothing is so bad that we can just walk away from it all.
Move to the beach and run a hot dog stand....
I am trapped by my confusion and fuzzy thinking now but more from meds than anything.
I guess I miss revving those engines and roaring as well.

you're roaring right now - the burden of ADD is that once the ADD mind is in place - it cries feed me - food of sorts from exercise(motor neuro-pipeline), travelling quickly (visual neuro-pipeline) ... the big guy though is thought - ADDer style - big thought - non-linear --- a big academic passion and a dream - much thought and complete immersion and you'll be there.
A sign that all of this is imminent - is a change of environment - a chance to engage in some task outside of your academic sphere - some would say far below you - think Einstein and patents --- this time - unbeknownst to us - is time in which your mind's freed up resources are being sucked up - *really* - without us knowing - us, you, me --- into identifying that specific new project.

It'll come - it'll be way out --- it'll be everything you ever wanted --- and you'll know when it arrives.

By the way - find that thing ... and the meds stop working - in a sense --- in a way - the meds are helping you to awaken your awareness to whatever it is - is driving your unease.

The personal revelation of your future - will dispel the unease with a vision --- the balance which arises - signifies an end to the need to use the meds --- in a sense - you're 'cured' - but not of ADD - ADD is the sign of the recovery process - no further need for the meds - of 'an awakening to a brand new day'.

Not meaningless pretty words - not empty - though many will read them this way - it's all a part of the life cycle of the ADDer - and sure enough - Stabile described this to me years ago - 'the epiphany when the meds lose their effectiveness' ...

no - not at all - not at first --- for sure though, I understand *now* :-)

SB.

DON'T "SHOULD" ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!


Tristan I like the above statement and it fits me well. I felt more trapped by “should” than by ADD.



my immune system went totally whacked.

Kvrrd you do know that immune system “whacks” can mess with ones mood of mind?

Just thought I would give this a mention.




Move to the beach and run a hot dog stand....
I am trapped by my confusion and fuzzy thinking now but more from meds than anything.
I guess I miss revving those engines and roaring as well.

The meds are confusing you?

I guess I am glad SB understood, because I am pretty much confused by the last part of your post. Some times I become confused because I exist. :o

Tristan I like the above statement and it fits me well. I felt more trapped by “should” than by ADD. http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/icon_cheer107.gifI like that one too Tristan! As much as I have railed against "shoulds" in my life, I have come to realise I did have my own set of "shoulds" and I have to constantly to re-evaluate those.


Kvrrd you do know that immune system “whacks” can mess with ones mood of mind?

Just thought I would give this a mention. Arrrgh, I am glad you did mention that Tamms. I have a peculiar tendency to forget that myself, and get stuck in my "shoulds" when I get too focused on one part of my personal illness/disorder inventory.


The meds are confusing you? It happens. I have tossed my antidepresents out of a moving car's window more times than I care to remember.

I guess I am glad SB understood, because I am pretty much confused by the last part of your post. Some times I become confused because I exist. :oGlad about SB and his understanding quite often myself. I am confused, therefore I am! It takes all of us to turn the wheel, am I right?

Crazy :cool:

QUOTE=non-linear k
Trapped by the maladies ... immunological; Trapped by the meds ... payment for the meds for the immunological maladies ... payment for meds including A. ... Adderall is probably what I'm afraid of losing, but... you shouldn't - in the UK we can't get A. - I use dexedrine - only a few cents each day --- that's full price! They have the exact same active ingredient (or at least the most potent A. chemical is dex-Sulphate ... ) ... and it's cheap - so don't worry about price --- it's a real cool fall back plan ... some would say first line - I would say first line.

Trapped by life? Every day above ground is good. Whenever Randy and I would fight, it would result in, nothing is so bad that we can just walk away from it all.

Whenever Randy and I would fight about this, that ... ... ...
... ... ... it would result in nothing ... ... ...
... ... ... ........................nothing is so bad... ... ...
~we can just walk away from it all~
~we can~Move to the beach and run a hot dog stand....

I am trapped by my confusion, waking up from the confusion from when I was confused but didn't realise it - and fuzzy thinking, settling into non-linear thought - letting it take over - not worrying about a loss of the self ... and rrreality - because in a rrreality of bills and expectations and being the citizen we are told to be - how can balance balance with the demands of rreality -?- paying for meds ... if I fear loss of conscious control of self - of falling offa' society's edge - how will I suffer ---?--- my awakening'll be halted - I'll not be able to seek assistance from the meds - my re-birth'll be prematurely ejaculated - now but more from meds than anything ... except - there's always dexedrine - its cheap - it's good ... ... ...

...trust me ... I'm an ADDer ... :-) ... and it'll be good - better than ever ... *that* good ... rrreally.

...nothing to fear but fear itself...

SB.

... confusion, waking up from the confusion ... ... and again - the ADDer awakening from a rrreality less rich ...
... just click (lil' 'ole) ->me (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=323233&postcount=12)<- (thrice) ...
...'open your eyes'...'open your eyes'...'open your eyes'

~~~we're in an X-man fantasy land~~~

...:-)...

SB.

Trapped by the meds ... payment for the meds for the immunological maladies


Yea this would be a point going here considering I have to pay full price cash, and I don't have the bloomin energy to rob a bank (I want my bounces back!). Perhaps after I get the immunological meds I will feel up to it; however then I will no longer need to rob a bank . . . . . .the Adderall I have become used to paying for . . . . . . .just the extra burden of added non-ADD medications coupled with the ridiculous price of gas! (we don’t have public transportation in sub-ville! Good thing I choose that small 2 liter instead of letting Gary talk me into to buying that 306=(360)! (engine size)

Tristan I like the above statement and it fits me well. I felt more trapped by “should” than by ADD.

;) :) :p :D

I was thinking (shocking, I know) that if anyone else were to tell me all the things I "should" do or all the ways I "should" be, I would at least tell them off in my head--maybe even out loud ( if I'm really brave).:rolleyes:

But I seem to have no voice when I'm placing expectations on myself. That "all-or-nothing" thinking takes over and meeting my own expectations somewhere in between isn't even recognized.

I'm only trapped by my own expectations. I have a feeling that if I would ease up and be more understanding and tolerant of myself and my ADD, others would be more tolerant and understanding as well.

tkj--just trying to be more self-accepting

I'm only trapped by my own expectations. I have a feeling that if I would ease up and be more understanding and tolerant of myself and my ADD, others would be more tolerant and understanding as well.

Well I do know that how others see us has a lot to do with how we see our selves. The thing I did notice was when I am more accepting of my self I become more accepting of others also.

;) :) :p :D

I'm only trapped by my own expectations. I have a feeling that if I would ease up and be more understanding and tolerant of myself and my ADD, others would be more tolerant and understanding as well. [/color][/font]

tkj--just trying to be more self-accepting

There's a saying that we have in AA that I think is just as appropriate for the general public:

My level of peace and serenity are inversely proportional to my expectations. That is, the more expectations I place on myself and others, the lower my level of peace and serenity. Conversely, the more acceptance I have of myself and others, the higher my peace and serenity.

Basically, whenever I spend all of my energy on trying to change the things that I have no control over, I can assure myself of only one thing - misery.

There's a saying that we have in AA that I think is just as appropriate for the general public:

My level of peace and serenity are inversely proportional to my expectations. That is, the more expectations I place on myself and others, the lower my level of peace and serenity. Conversely, the more acceptance I have of myself and others, the higher my peace and serenity.
That's a keeper. Thanks.

DON'T "SHOULD" ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!
I want the T-shirt.

Yes, mee too, to everything everyone said...
Quote:
Originally Posted by tristan k


DON'T "SHOULD" ON YOURSELF!!!!!!!


I want the T-shirt. Maybe a tattoo on my forehead as a reminder...and a mirror.

SB: freedom to roam comes with certain territories - finding that territory is the key - and for sure it'll be fun, will be the mindscape which captures your *interest* - and well - maybe sometimes a little overpowering - maybe sometimes intimidating - maybe fear of loss (of oneself) - but heck --- that's what the rest of us are for ... and a most sincere thank you to you all.
SB - the burden of ADD is that once the ADD mind is in place - it cries feed me - voraciously... If I could remember it, I'd sing the venus flytrap song from Little Shop of Horrors. I do need a special project to thrive. I'm a driver. Give me something to do and give me latitude to do it, and I'm good. We all win. Hey, man, get yourself a monkey to pick your nose...

tristan_k: I was thinking (shocking, I know) that if anyone else were to tell me all the things I "should" do or all the ways I "should" be, I would at least tell them off in my head--maybe even out loud ( if I'm really brave).
This is what we call shouting from the shadows, it doesn't count unless the target hears it, one way or the other. aka revenge. passive aggressively or outright. I've got the family always saying - you should have said it like this, or shoulda done that..well, I didn't, now what? I can give advice all day long - but receiving it...it's kinda like being controlled. Or is because the advice is taken as condescension? that's just about the same...'sigh'.

SB (and Tammy sort of): Trapped by the meds ... payment for the meds for the immunological maladies ... payment for meds including A. ... Adderall is probably what I'm afraid of losing,
no, not payment, but not being able to function without it.
I talked with my therapist this morning about the need to take meds for life. She said, yes, probably, especially in anticipation of a high stressor event.

Tammy and SB and Crazy - immune system, totally. Interferon helped kill it. Life happens. short term gratification vs long term effects.

Tam: Well I do know that how others see us has a lot to do with how we see our selves. The thing I did notice was when I am more accepting of my self I become more accepting of others also. yeah, it's your frequency that affects other people. maybe the wrong word. Like what Lazslo described in his psi paper. If I am manic and ****ed off, especially in the car- every driver around me turns into a moron. If I'm relaxed -there is much more courtesy. Son #3 says I do that to people and it's my fault. - Where's that distracting tongue guy of Cray's...

Yes, mee too, to everything everyone said...
Maybe a tattoo on my forehead as a reminder...and a mirror.Maybe add that to a meditation regimen? Visualise tattoo and mirror and add a suggestion to "see" that when the "shoulds" come calling...

and a most sincere thank you to you all.
voraciously... If I could remember it, I'd sing the venus flytrap song from Little Shop of Horrors. I do need a special project to thrive. I'm a driver. Give me something to do and give me latitude to do it, and I'm good. We all win. Hey, man, get yourself a monkey to pick your nose... Feed me! Feed me! Feed me!
Feed me, Seymour
Feed me all night long
That's right, boy
You can do it
Feed me, Seymour
Feed me all night long
'Cause if you feed me, Seymour
I can grow up big and strong

Would you like a Cadillac car?
Or a guest shot on Jack Paar?
How about a date with Hedy Lamarr?
You gonna git it.

Would you like to be a big wheel,
Dinin' out for every meal?
I'm the plant that can make it all real
You gonna git it

I'm your genie, I'm your friend
I'm your willing slave
Take a chance, just feed me and
You know the kinda eats,
The kinda red hot treats
The kinda sticky licky sweets
I crave

Come on, Seymour, don't be a putz
Trust me and your life will surely rival King Tut's
Show a little 'nitiative, work up the guts
And you'll git it

[SEYMOUR]
I don't know. I don't know
I have so, so many strong reservations
Should I go and perform mutilations?

[AUDREY II]
Think about a room at the Ritz
Wrapped in velvet, covered in glitz
A little nookie gonna clean up your zits
And you'll git it

[SEYMOUR]
Gee I'd like a Harley machine,
Toolin' around like I was James Dean,
Makin' all the guys on the corner turn green

[AUDREY II]
So go git it
If you wanna be profound
And you really gotta justify
Take a breath and look around
A lot of folks deserve to die

[SEYMOUR, AUDREY II]
If you want a rationale
It isn't very hard to see
Stop and think it over, pal
The guy sure looks like plant food to me.

[SEYMOUR]
He's so nasty, treatin' her rough,

[AUDREY II]
Smackin' her around and always talkin' so tough.

[SEYMOUR, AUDREY II]
You (I) need blood and he's got more than enough

[AUDREY II]
So go git it!

And everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey ;).





no, not payment, but not being able to function without it.
I talked with my therapist this morning about the need to take meds for life. She said, yes, probably, especially in anticipation of a high stressor event.I am in the stage of acceptance regarding meds-for-life. I am about to see my psydoc tomorrow and ask for an old method to be reinitiated...seems my current life-stress is beyond what my regimen can handle, and old patterns (very bad ones) are beginning to cry from the canyons of my mind once again. Back to the old non-PRN constant dosing schedule of Klonopin with the Xanax removed, time to try a new pain med, and time to try a non-benzo type of sleep med.

Tammy and SB and Crazy - immune system, totally. Interferon helped kill it. Life happens. short term gratification vs long term effects.
Same here Kvrrd. Short-term relief from early onset DJD in the form of NSAIDs= blown stomach functions for life. Occasional usage of steroidal meds for asthma means I have to be careful of immune system compromises when that route is taken.

yeah, it's your frequency that affects other people. maybe the wrong word. Like what Lazslo described in his psi paper. If I am manic and ****ed off, especially in the car- every driver around me turns into a moron. If I'm relaxed -there is much more courtesy. Son #3 says I do that to people and it's my fault. - Where's that distracting tongue guy of Cray's...http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/raspberry.gif

And here's one from my Kid, for you:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/ADDthinking.gif

Crazy :cool:

I have often felt trapped by my ADD. Since gettng a DX I feel better about a lot of things but just because I have a name for it doesn't mean the symptoms get any easier to deal with. Each year I chip away at the many difficulties ADD presents me with. So each year gets a a bit better and I am starting to see how ADD has effected me possitively. It comes and goes though so i have to keep working on it until I can actually accept the possitive things about my ADD.

So now I have an avatar! Thank you both so much! And which kid has done this honor on my behalf, Cray?
hey - how does it look?

iam not traped by myself but buy peps perstioncs ofve me an not the true me that there ....dorm

So now I have an avatar! Thank you both so much! And which kid has done this honor on my behalf, Cray?
hey - how does it look?THE Kid, the 10 year old, who is my visually creative one :D she does some mean fan-fics too. The 17 year old is more of a creative writer fiction-wise, and it appears that the Baby has "the beat"...I am hoping that one gets musical creativity as a gift.

Cray :cool: (ava looks gooooood on ya too!)

hey Dorm,

Have you ever tried to break that perception?
Kinda' thinking that if some to all of the subjects we discuss here - were to be carried into our respective rrreal worlds - well, that we might be able to change our shared rrreality into something a little more ... sustainable ...

I don't play devil's advocate here.
Don't make up stances.
Believe in pretty much everything I write - none of it is simply an attempt to garner popularity - what could be more pointless?
I wonder - could we break others' perceptions - not only of ourselves - but of themselves - by exposing a little of what we seem to discuss and agree on here --- out there.

Why do I ask?

That'd be the countdown - I guess ... ... ...

beep beep beep

S.

Lesson 1 - Personal responsibility - 'you don't do it - it don't get done'

funnily enough - the message in the message is kinda' a trigger - the trigger activates ADD - and - in a funny kinda' way - one can consider ADD to be a sorta' infectious [not dis]ease.

Funny thought!

A contagious evolutionary adaptation involving neither 'bugs' nor DNA --- the scientific community teeters in disbelief, ain't the word ... ... ...

Successful ADDers could illustrate those adaptations=advantages - which I think many non-ADDers already sense and are afraid of - and create a more proactive movement towards acceptance.
Scientific proof just may satisfy some of them.
Although maybe we can get non-ADDers to 'catch' ADD. whoa didja get it?
If we could do that, then we should be able to get rid of the not so hot disadvantages too!

Could something like genetic engineering or even stem cell injections expedite this process?
Would there be enough trust between the two modes for joint cooperation?
Would they know it would be for mutual benefit? (Would it be a benefit?)
Can I ask the same question fifty different ways?

What was that you wrote: freakin' freak flag flyin.. ?
But we need more momentum. Lead by example? That conjurs up an image...
Maybe we should become ADD snobs!
How do we get everyone onto the 'bus?'

Successful ADDers could illustrate those adaptations=advantages - which I think many non-ADDers already sense and are afraid of - and create a more proactive movement towards acceptance.

Begins with acceptance of self; acceptance of others is a natural follow through!

The beginning has already begun when you read those words (and considered them even if you did not agree).





Scientific proof just may satisfy some of them.

We feel better with scientific proof (or evidence) however the lack there of doesn’t equate non-existent as many things can not be touched by current methods including but not limited to my existence (or yours) I won’t touch the rrreality factor (it will simply confuse the issue for many)





Although maybe we can get non-ADDers to 'catch' ADD. whoa didja get it?

Already being done take a good look around, instant every thing (instant water just add water) , things that took a month ten years ago are done in an hour!






If we could do that, then we should be able to get rid of the not so hot disadvantages too!

ADDers do not corner the Market on disadvantages all humanoid life forms have them.






Could something like genetic engineering or even stem cell injections expedite this process?

It’s not nice to fool with Mother nature, for every good trait there will an equal and opposing not so good.






Would there be enough trust between the two modes for joint cooperation?
Would they know it would be for mutual benefit? (Would it be a benefit?)

See answer to question one please; these two are connected.





Can I ask the same question fifty different ways?


Tis cool I can answer it 75!





But we need more momentum. Lead by example? That conjurs up an image...

Leading by example is the most excellent way as one of our major problems here on Earth are those who are allowed to lead other wise!





Maybe we should become ADD snobs!

Nah I don’t care for snobs, besides it is against an impulsives very nature to behave in such an unacceptable manner! We are who we were designed to be.





How do we get everyone onto the 'bus?'

K-Y and a shoe horn?

Sorry first thing that popped into my brain, last thing on the screen! :p The visuals being pretty funny!

I felt trapped until just recently. I was officially diagnosed in november of last year. I thought I would be relieved after it was confirmed and tried some medication. I mean at least now I know why I feel/act/think the way I do right? WRONG!! For me, this revelation initiated what seemed to be consistent with a grieving process. I ended up having a bad experience with my first stimulant trial and was extremely frustrated. It has seriously taken the last 9 months for me to finally come to a very recent breakthrough/serenity about the whole thing. I think the thing that bothered me the most was that my kids have been affected both with the disorder and by my irritability/frustration in the past. I have gotten past that and have had some great revelations about my behavior as well (like sensory integration issues). I am now doing really well on focalin xr and lexapro and am starting to feel truely happy and serene for the first time in my life.

Successful ADDers could illustrate those adaptations=advantages - which I think many non-ADDers already sense and are afraid of - and create a more proactive movement towards acceptance.Hmmmm...its already been done ;)...ask about the Apache, the Celts, the Zulu....


Would there be enough trust between the two modes for joint cooperation?There already is! What we need are more people who know and admit to the differences (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/oracle/1580/hunters.html)...

If a hunter is smart, he or she will team up with a farmer. Farmers are superior at organizing, staying on track, performing all the tasks the hunter is weak at performing. They have important strengths necessary for many fields of endeavor. I think of certain wildly successful trial lawyers who have teams of farmers doing the meticulous research and footwork so necessary in such a field. At the same time, farmers need to recognize the tremendous strengths of the hunter, and value them from early childhood for their potential. They must teach them they way they learn, with methods which have been proven successful for children with ADHD. These strategies have proven successful for all children, not just those with disabilities.

Would they know it would be for mutual benefit? (Would it be a benefit?) It's in the way that you use it,
It comes and it goes.
It's in the way that you use it,
Boy don't you know.

And if you lie you will lose it,
Feelings will show.
So don't you ever abuse it,
Don't let it go.

Nobody's right till somebody's wrong.
Nobody's weak till somebody's strong.
No one gets lucky till luck comes along.
Nobody's lonely till somebody's gone.


:D



Can I ask the same question fifty different ways?Sure! SB always said I made things 13-dimensional, why not?


What was that you wrote: freakin' freak flag flyin.. ?
Almost cut my hair...
It happened just the other day.
It's gettin' kind of long,
I could've said it was in my way...

But I didn't,
and I wonder why
I feel like letting my freak flag fly?
And I feel like I owe it, yeah ... to someone.

:D


I'm goin' to find a space inside to laugh,
Separate the wheat from the chaff,
Oh, and I feel ...
Like I owe it, yeah ... to someone.



But we need more momentum. Lead by example? That conjurs up an image...http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/einstein.gif



How do we get everyone onto the 'bus?'http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/queasy.gif say it ain't so! You said...you said...BUS! :faint:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/alien006.gif

So long ago,
Another life
I could feel your heart beat.

It's not a dream, remember us.
I can see it in your eyes.

We'll find a place in time,
A place in time beyond the sun.

We'll find a place in time,
A place in time to call our home.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/alien006.gif

... :-) ...

o.k. ... so Cray - the levitating Heaven-bound smilie is just too way out --- are you *the* original smilie font*?

*...noting http://www.answers.com/font&r=67 ...
first and foremost definition [1-4]
and then [2] (a poor second)

... :-) ...

s.

... :-) ...

o.k. ... so Cray - the levitating Heaven-bound smilie is just too way out --- are you *the* original smilie font*?

*...noting http://www.answers.com/font&r=67 ...
first and foremost definition [1-4]
and then [2] (a poor second)

... :-) ...

s.....:-) well, what do you think? ;-)

Cray (happy to see fuzzy hamsters again)