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ADHDCutie106
08-04-06, 12:54 AM
Dose anyone know why we have ADHD or ADD? Sometimes i wake up and think to myself how i got ADHD!! Dose anyone fell the samething? Or knows why we have it?:confused:

Veighen
08-04-06, 01:50 AM
Hmm, Im thinking... genes..... and smoking or drinking while pregnant?

At least, that is about the only reasons I have stumbled across as of yet.

Feel free to expand my "horizons"


I know for a fact, my mother smoked while she was pregnant with me, she always was, and has been a chain-smoker.

It wasnt recognized back then as being a "bad habit." The numerous health concerns were taken lightly after the many ignorant years of smoking being a non dangerous recreational, social, and status achieving activity.

I still cant believe that people are just now starting to realize that second hand smoke can cause cancer in NON SMOKERS.

I am disgusted by the people out there that know this fact, and still feel the need to light up in their homes with children.

It is not fair to the children that have no choice, or even are aware of the potential dangers of second hand smoke. Adults and parents should realize the dangers, and take responsibility for their friends, and families health.

I actually see people do it all the time.

I use to be a smoker. I quit, and I refuse to continue to smoke second hand smoke just because someone decides to light up around me.


If I have offended anyone, please disregard. I understand that smoking is a very addictive and sensitive issue. I understand that smoking dependancy is a very complicated and I do not take it lightly. I was also at one time also hourly dependant on cigarettes.

To any and all that have or will be quitting, I want to say CONGRATULATIONS!. It can sometimes be one of the hardest, most will testing habits to break, and anyone that has conquered it or will attempt to conquer it, deserves to feel a great deal of achievment.

lars
08-04-06, 02:13 AM
Great question. I agree with what Veighen pointed out concerning genetics playing a role in this dissorder. Unfortunately the jury is still out on why exactly we are the way we are.


There are some wonderful theories, and I have to admit that I like to believe that some of them are quite accurate. For instance, I am very fond of the whole "hunter in a farmers world" theory, and if I was not so scientifically minded, I would likely embrace it comepletely as fact.


Unfortunately, there are so many other possible environmental factors beyond our mothers smoking or drinking while we are in the womb, like exposure to pesticides, herbacides, etc, that I tend to rule that out as a cause for me, but there is really no way to be sure.


My mother smoked when I was in the womb too. However, I am the youngest of 8 kids, and I have only one other sibling who shows symptoms of this dissorder. He is not diagnosed, and appears to be content not to be. For me, I am very grateful to have been diagnosed with this dissorder.


On a lighter note, here is a link to a humorous post here at this site from "jpolk" about where they "contracted" ADD. I remember when I read this post I almost fell over laughing.

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=279494#post279494

boone1
08-04-06, 08:39 AM
I think we are the way we are because...

If there wasn't anyone different in the wold, then it would be such a boring place to live in, we just liven things up a bit :D

dormammau2008
08-04-06, 09:50 AM
genes inverment ......life an peps all have a role to play with add adhd ......'/)) we are who we are what more dose the world need eheheh an we do liven the world up dorm

mguffey31
08-04-06, 12:11 PM
I'm a fan of the hunter/gatherer theory. I think there are WAY too many of us, diagnosed or otherwise, to confidently find any one specific etiology other than genetic predisposition. There are some of us that were born of uncomplicated pregnancies/deliveries without exposure to known toxins i.e. cigarette smoke etc. who have adhd. I personally can track this type of behavior in my family back a few generations and only a few obviously because I run out of people to interview. (I am the first in my family to recognize our behavior as adhd. Past family members have been mis-diagnosed for years.) Evolution occurs over millenia and up until a couple of centuries ago, hunting/gathering skills were still a necessity for a great many people. I don't know if everyone has seen/heard the theory on the obesity gene. This one mentions that different groups of people who lived in areas where there were certain periods of famine developed a gene for storing calories much more readily. This allowed them to store energy for times when food was scarce. Descendants with these genetics are prone to obesity now that food, for most parts of the world, is readily available. (I'm not talking about the guy who takes in 7,000 calories a day and plays Halo for exercise.) These people can take in a RDA recommended amount of calories and put on weight with normal endocrine function! Whether our genetics are consequences of evolution or not, I think we were dealt this hand for a reason. I think we were given a blessing, albeit a mixed bag. Seems like there are very few things in life in which you get the good without the bad. Where would society be today without us? Even if you exclude Mr. Einstein and Mr. Newton and give them to our friends the aspies or the autistics,we still come from an impressive army of innovators, pioneers, movers and shakers. Where would we be without electricity, vehicles, the declaration of independence, America for that matter, and the ipod for goodness sakes! Hollywood would be some flailing sideshow. I won't even mention the music industry. Art? Medicine? Don't get me started. It is my opinion that the diagnostic numbers represented in the literature regarding the percentage of the population with this "disorder" are WAY LOW. Heck, I didn't "catch the disease" until I was 33. Myself and many of our bretheren have gone undetected for years. Some go a lifetime. Could the numbers be as high as 15%? 20%? If this is the case, which I believe it may be, what does it mean? Are we hunter/gatherers or the chosen ones sent to propel mankind into the future along with the rest of those "afflicted" with "disorders"? Has anyone ever met a truly "normal" intelligent person? I personally don't know one. (sorry for all the "") When you have hyperfocused/obsessed on the adhd literature as much as I have in the past year trying to learn more about yourself, you learn to pick kindred spirits out in a crowd. I currently work with several surgeons and anesthesiologists of at least 10 that perfectly fit the profile for adhd. However, if you were to tell them that, 90% would tell you your crazy or that there was no such thing, just repressed childhood issues. Ha Ha. Only about 10% of these guys would admit that they might have adhd. How do I know? Because I asked them. That just goes to show you a small example of how many more of us are out there that aren't in the stats. What about there parents? Their children? Anyway, sorry for the long-winded post. I think my previous longest post was two lines. Bottom Line :Obviously I don't know for sure why we are the way we are but I do know that there are a lot more of us out there than you may think. We come from a very long line of incredibly important people and should hold our heads high because each and every one of us have had that one special emotion whether you realize it or not and that is: we were meant for something greater. Whether or not we achieve greatness is up to us because the potential is inherent.
-Gotta get back to saving lives.
Peace out.

Matt S.
08-04-06, 12:33 PM
for me it is rotten luck

Myomancy
08-04-06, 12:48 PM
This is really two questions:

Why do you have ADHD?

and

Why does ADHD exist in humans?


To anwer the first question, look to your parents. From Myomancy:

Parenting and ADHD (http://www.myomancy.com/2005/06/parenting_and_a.html#more)


When studying psychology one of the concepts you are introduced to is socially sensitive research. This covers anything where the findings may be disturbing or may be misrepresented to support a political or social agenda. The classic example of this is race and intelligence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence), where studies show that on average white people have higher IQ's than black people. (Which just proves that IQ tests are only good for measuring how good you are at IQ tests and not your intelligence).

A socially sensitive area in educational problems is the role parents play in their children's problems. On the one hand parents should not be guilt ridden because, potentially, their genes and / or behavior has lead to their children's problem. On the other hand, parents are massively influential on their children and what, if any, role they play in the development of the problem needs to be understood.

This lengthy article (http://www.kidsnews.co.za/articles/ahdhparents.htm) looks at research into the role parents have in their children's ADHD. They found that many of the parents exhibited ADHD symptoms themselves which made it hard for them to be consistent in managing their children. It also looked at how the parents communicated with their children and the role parenting skills.Results from this study have several important implications. First, they highlight the potential value of assessing ADHD symptoms in parents when their child is being evaluated for ADHD. ADHD is known to be more common in parents who have a child with ADHD and may not have previously been diagnosed. This study indicates that in such situations, parents' ADHD symptoms can undermine the effectiveness of their parenting and the benefit they derive from working on their parenting skills. Treating ADHD symptoms in parents may thus be an important component of effectively managing ADHD in children, not to mention the benefits such treatment may have for parents independent of their parenting role.So if you do have a child suffering from ADHD its worth considering your own habits. Do you have ADHD style behaviors that you can learn to control and do you need to improve your own parenting skills?


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The second question is harder but some think it gives humans an evolutionary advantage to have different personallities. Again from Myomancy:

Was ADHD created by modern society? (http://www.myomancy.com/2005/12/was_adhd_create.html#more)



Computer games, (http://www.myomancy.com/games/) television (http://www.myomancy.com/television/), diet (http://www.myomancy.com/2005/10/dont_medicate_c.html) and sleep (http://www.myomancy.com/2005/07/snoring_sleep_a.html) patterns have all been blamed for ADHD over the years. There is certainly evidence that diet and sleep problems can make ADHD worse but there is nothing to suggest that they cause it in the first place.
If ADHD is not a modern phenomena then it must be an inherent part of our biological make up. Therefore, evolution dictates that there must be an advantage to our genetics for this type of behaviour. Just as good eye-sight and intelligence are adaptive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive) and have helped mankind to survive, so must ADHD. If having ADHD was not an advantage then all the people with ADHD would of died out without passing on their genes.
This question was examined by researched in Oslo and London and they found:
"Simulations of the Changing Food group task show that unpredictable behaviour by a minority optimizes results for the group. Characteristics of such group exploration tasks are risk-taking, in which costs are borne mainly by the individual; and information-sharing, in which benefits accrue to the entire group. Hence, this work is closely linked to previous studies of evolved altruism.".
This means that the high-risk taking nature of people with ADHD is helpful to society in general but not necessarily the individual with ADHD. So if primitive man found a new type of berry then the person with ADHD would eat the berry first. The tribe or society would then find out if the berry was poisonous or not. Of course if it is poisonous then the person with ADHD suffers but society as a whole benefits.
Study Abstract: The evolution of hyperactivity, impulsivity and cognitive diversity (http://www.journals.royalsoc.ac.uk/%28wzjuuw45dd5qwe45hkammj55%29/app/home/contribution.asp?referrer=parent&backto=issue,4,36;journal,1,6;linkingpublicationre sults,1:111337,1)

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superdave
08-04-06, 12:58 PM
With what little I have learned since my recent diagnosis, I lean more towards the genetic and the evolutionary biology theories. I know for a fact that my mother did not drink nor did she smoke while pregnant with me because she never did either when not pregnant. And if that was the primary trigger, would we not see a severe decline in cases of ADD in this day and age where a pregnant woman who is caught smoking or drinking by her peers is a relative rarity?

My psychologist, who is ADD herself, gave me a short article about "ADD Explorers" which is very intriguing. If not for a minority of people blessed with the traits of ADD, where would society, technology and the arts be?

meadd823
08-04-06, 01:53 PM
Hmm, Im thinking... genes..... and smoking or drinking while pregnant?

YIKES . . . .not meadd823, was hyper active in womb. My mother did not smoke or drink EVER! She has always been one of those people who ate right. I wasn’t premature either I was born “late” (been late to every thing else sense) and I was a healthy size. I was made wiggly by nature, I was made ADHD because that is the way I was meant to be it was by “design”. (pick what ever fits your personal perception)





If I have offended anyone, please disregard. I understand that smoking is a very addictive and sensitive issue. I understand that smoking dependancy is a very complicated and I do not take it lightly. I was also at one time also hourly dependant on cigarettes.

Confusion about topic here are you asking why we have ADD or if it is due to maternal smoking or ADDers smoking? I am on my medications which usually allows me to comprehend topics, but I am unsure of your precise question here.






I don't know if everyone has seen/heard the theory on the obesity gene. This one mentions that different groups of people who lived in areas where there were certain periods of famine developed a gene for storing calories much more readily. This allowed them to store energy for times when food was scarce.

I am quiet familiar with this concept my ex-husband is a type two diabetic, the same thing is true of malaria gene.





Some go a lifetime. Could the numbers be as high as 15%? 20%? If this is the case, which I believe it may be, what does it mean? Are we hunter/gatherers or the chosen ones sent to propel mankind into the future along with the rest of those "afflicted" with "disorders"?

This reminds me of members Stabile / SB_UK, may want to look some of thier stuff up and read it as you may find you are not the only one to see this as a possibility.


Stabile writes some pretty long stuff so if you take medications for your ADD you may want to do this while on them.



ADD may have been an advantage (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/01/020109074512.htm)

***Source Quote
The human gene study, which appears in the Jan. 8 issue of Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, suggests that behavior now considered inappropriate in a classroom may be related to behavior that once helped humans overcome their environment. *** End Source Quote


They could both be right (http://mx.thirdaid.com/conditions/ADD.htm)

***Source Quote
A broad theory, not necessarily in conflict with the current medical research findings, is the hunter vs. farmer theory, first presented by Thom Hartmann, which holds that in some ways, some ADD attributes in some humans may be a form of adaptive behavior developed over a long period to match the environment. In easier terms, the change was refinement of skills to suit changing needs. Under the theory, as civilized society evolved, the attributes of a hunter gave way to those of a farmer for most people as the survival skills needed changed.

Hartmann takes an approach from biological evolution to argue that ADHD is not a disorder, but an expression of biodiversity. In his book ADD - Attention Deficit Disorder (1997), Hartmann developed the idea that people having ADHD symptoms may have simply inherited a collection of genes that were selected for the time when hunting was particularly important. From an evolutionary point of view, it is quite acceptable that humans—like other animals—differ in their biology and pass on their traits from generation to generation. This idea is the basis of another of his works, The Edison Gene: ADHD and the Gift of the Hunter Child (2003).

Hence the idea that thinking in terms of attentional differences rather than attentional disorders may be helpful, by helping focus energy towards the individual's strengths and uniqueness.***Source Quote

Albino Fox
08-04-06, 02:16 PM
Of course there's the genetic factor. However, there's something to be said about the remarkable prevalence of what seems such an annoying genetic trait. As such, I'm a kind of fan of the hunter-vs.-farmer theory myself. I also have hope that great opportunities are opening up for hyperactive, impulsive, spontaneous folk such as us to be ourselves. So please, read what Myomancy and meadd823 have to say. mguffey31 has an interesting report too, on how some degree of hunter-type behavior shows up in a lot of interesting, valuable people.

Regarding smoking, drinking, etc. I and others have previously stated (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14479) that it sounds like it's caused by AD/HD, never the other way around. Similar mistakes have been made with the idea that too much television (a theory debunked) (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26572&page=3), among other things, has lead to the trait.

Veighen
08-04-06, 02:25 PM
I meant, well because I mentioned the idea of smoking and alcohol as being a part of it, I didnt want to offend anyone that may have smoked, or known others whom has smoked themselves.

I have had this second hand smoking conversation with numerous people that did get VERY offended by what I had to say. So, I was implying no offence right away, so that it was not negatively determined as some kind of attack.

When I was young, I remember some kind of assembly or something that went into detail the harmfull effects of smoking/drinking while pregnant. I remember specifically... that smoking while pregnant has a POTENTIAL to harm the developing fetus, therfore, the born child may suffer from hyperactivity.

I always grew up believing this was the MAIN reason why I was hyper as a kid, because my mother smoked. I never actually linked AD/HD with hyperactivity from smoking untill I began to suspect that I may have ADD. I never considered hyperactivity from smoking to be the same things as ADHD children, untill recently.


What is this hunter/gatherer everyone keeps mentioning?

Is there a link, or something I can read about this idea?

Please/thanks.

lars
08-04-06, 02:30 PM
What is this hunter/gatherer everyone keeps mentioning?

Is there a link, or something I can read about this idea?

Please/thanks.

It is in reference to the theory presented by Thom Hartmann in his book, "Attention Defficit Dissorder: A Different Perception"


Here is a link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1887424148/sr=8-1/qid=1154712436/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8420957-9403358?ie=UTF8


This is the best book I have found on the subject of ADD.


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Proscrire
08-04-06, 02:41 PM
What is this hunter/gatherer everyone keeps mentioning?

Hunter/gatherer refers to the way humans lived before the invention of farming (and some small scale societies still do). Instead of raising crops or livestock (agrarian), bands of humans rely on hunting prey and gathering food like nuts, roots, fruit, wild grains, etc. Such people are nomadic (liveing out permanent buildings) and a bunch of other things that have absolutly nothing to do with ADHD but are fun to learn about.:)

The anthropologist will now crawl back in her little hole.

Oh and as for the smoking thing, I have to disagree too. My mom never smoked and I was so hyper in utero that I bruised her from the inside out. In my family, the only causal factor not elimanite is genetics. We're just a wacky group.:D

boone1
08-04-06, 02:48 PM
Oh and as for the smoking thing, I have to disagree too. My mom never smoked and I was so hyper in utero that I bruised her from the inside out. In my family, the only causal factor not elimanite is genetics. We're just a wacky group.:D
It's genetics for me too :D , my mum didnt smoke or drink while she was pregnant with me.

Veighen
08-04-06, 02:57 PM
I am also suspecting that my mother has ADD, but I dont know for sure yet.

Well, her and possibly my sisters. We would all be inattentive.

HighFunctioning
08-04-06, 04:20 PM
My mother isn't a heavy smoker, but she does do it, and I wouldn't be surprised if she did during pregnancy.... There are many genetic factors with me (father's side, not mothers), so I wouldn't say that the drug consumption was the problem.

There's an obvious trend of abnormalities (sensory processing issues, severe introversion, etc.) that I've noticed among my father's side, so I definitely would exclude factors specific to my own birth in this matter.

Nova
08-04-06, 04:26 PM
Dose anyone know why we have ADHD or ADD? Sometimes i wake up and think to myself how i got ADHD!!

Ask my Mama why I have it.

william tell
08-04-06, 04:41 PM
This goes to one of my sayings = everyday around the world someone is being treated unfairly -today is your turn - you did'nt complain when it was your neighbor, did you ? well, he does'nt care about your day either - be happy you are alive for everyday above ground is a good one. We'll all be dead soon enough

Nova
08-04-06, 04:45 PM
Woooooo Hoooooo !!
Go Will !!!!!

Great reply !!

Crazy~Feet
08-04-06, 04:47 PM
Y is a very crooked letter, in my opinion.

Crazy

meadd823
08-04-06, 04:47 PM
that smoking while pregnant has a POTENTIAL to harm the developing fetus, therfore, the born child may suffer from hyperactivity.

And then again the child may not . . . . .potential being the key word in above sentence. . . .such an important word yet so often over looked and misread. I have the potential of winning the lottery but my chances are higher of being struck by lightening.

Your desire to be respectful was apparent and is greatly appreciated how ever second hand smoke is the new energy crisis of the 70’s, in my opinion because quite frankly the only thing known to cause cancer beyond all reasonable doubt is life, only living things get cancer, so it must be caused by living. All else is connected to increase chances, genetics and speculation. I do not want to offend either plus I do believe that people who don’t smoke should be able to breath clean air, of this I agree. . . .

Cigarette smoking increase the chances of getting lung cancer I do not refute this either however I believe when all is said and done we will find that in order to get cancer even from smoking (first, second or third hand) one will have to be genetically predisposition for “cancer” to begin with. I have known too many chain smokers who live to be 90, only to die getting hit by a bus (not cancer)


Also there is already evidence that certain cervical cancers are caused by a viruses which are sexually transmitted but only “caught” by some individuals who are genetically prone, those who catch this virus and do not have it treated are over 10 times more likely to later develop cervix cancer. I have held to this non-scientifically based notion that many cancers are caused by viral infections thought to be dormant, but in reality have combined with some glitch in the immune system, thus cancer. Think about it HIV - immune deficient caused by virus, many people with HIV grow tumors like the ones people do when they have cancer. This is my non-scientific opinion and is only speculation on my behalf. Feel free to disagree.


ADD / ADHD as in naturally that was *not* caused by delivery complications, or brain trauma is merely a set of traits that get on a majority of NT type people nerves, it is considered a disorder because we are unable to do certain things naturally that are expected by our present day society. Weather we are “left over” hunter / gathers or a sign of adaptations to the fast pace modern world of our future I have not really formulated a hard line opinion because it doesn’t effect the fact that I am expected to do thing that are unnatural for me and therefore must take medications to be able to accomplish mundane task that hold no interest for me yet are a requirement to meet the social title of “functioning adult”.

lars
08-04-06, 04:50 PM
I don't see having ADD as having anything to do with being treated unfair Will.

In fact seeing this condition as an advantage is the primary reason the theory of being a "hunter in a farmers world" is so appealing to those who have taken the time to read about that theory.

Crazy~Feet
08-04-06, 04:52 PM
I don't see having ADD as having anything to do with being unfair Will.

In fact seeing this condition as an advantage is the primary reason the theory of being a "hunter in a farmers world" is so appealing to those who have taken the time to read about that theory.I've read it Lars. I dance with Hunters. My bow is shaped like a Y too. ;)

Crazy :cool:

Nova
08-04-06, 04:54 PM
I believe WT was just saying 'be grateful you're alive'.

Imnapl
08-05-06, 06:41 PM
Smokers should worry more about respiratory disease than cancer.

Crazy~Feet
08-05-06, 07:09 PM
Asthmatics should worry more about smoking than why they have ADHD ;).

Crazy :cool:

william tell
08-05-06, 07:25 PM
Thanks Nova, it's true I do believe strongly that to just be here is heaven

I know many normals and work with even more -no one is immune from missfortune

everybody can sit around and whine or they can get busy making tomorrow better today

what the heck does smoking have to do with ADD ?
My mom never smoked or drank - she whined alot though,
maybe that did it

Crazy~Feet
08-05-06, 07:27 PM
Hey my mom is a whiner too! Maybe that's the connection. I know she didn't smoke.

Wait...my kids have ADD...am I a whiner?

Crazy :cool:

HighFunctioning
08-05-06, 07:31 PM
My mother is a whiner too, but she's not ADD. :)

Whining doesn't qualify as being an objective measurement.

Crazy~Feet
08-05-06, 07:33 PM
Thanks HF :D and I am sure I do my own share of whining too.


Crazy :cool:

mguffey31
08-05-06, 08:32 PM
I would hazard to guess that a big chunk of the smoking women were self-medicating their adhd/add causing the corelation.

Crazy~Feet
08-05-06, 08:35 PM
I would hazard to guess that a big chunk of the smoking women were self-medicating their adhd/add causing the corelation.Makes sense, but does not prove that smoking while pregnant leads to ADHD in the child.

Crazy :cool:

mguffey31
08-05-06, 09:12 PM
I meant that they passed the add/adhd on and that the smoking part was coincidental. The smoking was probably more evidence that they were add/adhd (addiction/self-medication). I forgot who once referred to nicotine as "dirty ritalin." I myself was a nicotine/caffeine junkie for years prior to diagnosis.
I didn't word my prior post very well. Eloquence is not one of my strong points.

lars
08-05-06, 09:15 PM
everybody can sit around and whine or they can get busy making tomorrow better today
Who exactly was whining in this thread? I was under the impression that we were simply discussing the question of "why do we have ADHD or ADD?"

Crazy~Feet
08-05-06, 09:20 PM
I meant that they passed the add/adhd on and that the smoking part was coincidental. The smoking was probably more evidence that they were add/adhd (addiction/self-medication). I forgot who once referred to nicotine as "dirty ritalin." I myself was a nicotine/caffeine junkie for years prior to diagnosis.
I didn't word my prior post very well. Eloquence is not one of my strong points.;) Understood and I was none so eloquent myself (and that is one of my strong suits!).

I was meant to totally agree with the above ^^^.

Crazy :cool:

Crazy~Feet
08-05-06, 09:22 PM
Who exactly was whining in this thread? I was under the impression that we were simply discussing the question of "why do we have ADHD or ADD?"If they whine, then I will whine! We will all whine! It'll be anarchy! :D

I think that was just a general statement from WT, right along with my contention that Y (why?) is a very crooked letter. In the end, does the "why" really matter??

Crazy :cool:

Proscrire
08-06-06, 04:10 AM
Y can't matter, it can't even be matter...unless in my ADD I have misread the Periodic table again.

I like I and S. ADD IS. No matter what. My matter to manage come what may.
(the above is proof that I need to go to bed)

Veighen
08-06-06, 05:38 AM
Smoking and self medicating.

I use to be a smoker and I use to LOVE smoking. I cant say that enough.


I smoked for maybe...12 years?

I ended up quitting one day about 2-3 years ago. I am going on my 3rd year in a few months.

The funny thing is... I think I may have been self-medicating aswell.

That is, if its really true that smoking works like some medications possibly do.

I never really noticed my ADD symptoms before, because, I think the smoking "disguised" them.

My second year of being a non smoker, I joined college, and I began to see all the problems I was having. ADD related problems.

Way, back when I was in high school, I would always between classes have a smoke, sometimes in the middle of class... all day, everyday. So I guess I never really noticed. Plus I was a doodler, and a "stare out the window instead of listening", kind of person.

pittguy578
08-07-06, 02:20 AM
I think it's genetics..
My mom suffers from depression
My dad is really hyper...
Hence, I am kind of in the middle:(

Imnapl
08-07-06, 02:31 AM
Why do we have ADHD?

Because we can. :D

VisualImagery
08-07-06, 02:43 AM
I can think of the funny reasons first

to drive our parents nuts
to teach the world tolerance
to fund police departments through traffic tickets and other fines
to perpetuate the butterfly species
to drive our teachers nuts-unless they have ADD
to make life much more fun for everyone
to ensure a steady supply of stand-up comedians, race car drivers, and other similar professions.

Serious
It appears to be genetics-and they may be close to identifying the gene-forgot where I read that it may be located in a similar area with autism-go figure.
Some think a dopamine deficiency syndrome, Sudderth and Kandel, Adult ADD, The Complete Handbook.
There are lots of theories and the jury is still out.

My mom did not smoke or do anything like that so that

VisualImagery
08-07-06, 03:14 AM
Cutie, I hope you understand the humor and sarcastic remarks. It is one way we cope with things we don't like about having ADD. We still wonder why we have ADD, not why me, but why the heck does it exist, where does it come from, and many other questions.

Sometimes, you gotta laugh or you will cry.

Becky

meadd823
08-07-06, 12:19 PM
(Which just proves that IQ tests are only good for measuring how good you are at IQ tests and not your intelligence).

You know I sooo agree with this!



I like I and S. ADD IS. No matter what. My matter to manage come what may.
(the above is proof that I need to go to bed)

Hey I have posted several of these myself! :o


what the heck does smoking have to do with ADD ?
My mom never smoked or drank - she whined alot though,
maybe that did it

My mother didn’t smoke drink, whine or have ADD but I have it. My grandfather smoked , drank and possibly had ADD but his way of communicating negative thoughts could not really be classified as whining!

I have ADD as does two of my siblings(3 out of 4 + for ADD) all of my kids, and I think I am up to two nephews with DX (one for sure), and my grandson at slightly less than two years is happily busy . . . .doesn’t do well if some one interferes with his bounce . . .he tends to bite literally! :eek:


My personal favorite answer to this why do we have ADD question is:

Because we can.

lars
08-07-06, 12:32 PM
My personal favorite answer to the question of how or why concerning the origin of ADHD came from "Jpolk" (a member here) who said that he "contracted ADHD from a dirty toilet seat." LOL!

I agree with what Becky said about being able to laugh about this too. I think laughter helps much.

Nova
08-07-06, 01:36 PM
Wait...Tam...isn't that answer referring to why does a dog....
Never mind...wrong question... (0:




My personal favorite answer to this why do we have ADD question is:

Quote:
Because we can.

Nova
08-07-06, 01:39 PM
Too dam* funny !

'From a dirty toilet seat' !!

Thanks Lars, for posting that !!

I'm going to use that one !!
Use it for all my 'ailments', actually...


That'll definitely stifle most, LMAO !!

Crazy~Feet
08-07-06, 04:56 PM
My personal favorite answer to the question of how or why concerning the origin of ADHD came from "Jpolk" (a member here) who said that he "contracted ADHD from a dirty toilet seat." LOL!

I agree with what Becky said about being able to laugh about this too. I think laughter helps much.Indeed, Lars, Becky brings an excellent point.

And may I please toss the toilet-seat reference at the poorly-informed people who would be my detractors in real life? I suspect they still believe one can contract many "diseases" from dirty toilet seats, personally :rolleyes:.

Crazy :cool:

Nova
08-08-06, 09:34 PM
I try to make my 'world' a better place, Will...
To the best of my abilities, without the interference of my own 'sniveling'. (0:

Sneaky, sneaky...Snivs ! (0:

Sometimes they reconfigure, faster than I can 'blow 'em up'.

meadd823
08-08-06, 10:33 PM
Jpolk" (a member here) who said that he "contracted ADHD from a dirty toilet seat." LOL!

Okay would that be from cleaning them or sitting on them?

lars
08-08-06, 11:42 PM
Okay would that be from cleaning them or sitting on them?
Here's his original post.

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=279494#post279494

Nova
08-09-06, 01:08 AM
Yeah...
Their one and only post on here. (0:

Maybe they got 'flushed'. (0:

hips_n_giggles
08-09-06, 05:45 PM
Hi there:
I agree with some of the other answers. I do think that what the mother takes (i.e. drugs) plays a huge part in how it neurologically affects the embryo. I used to work for a diagnostic school for neurologically handicapped children & the majority of children were born addicted to some kind of illegal drug. This is not to say that all women who have children with neurological problems used drugs during pregnancy. There was still a percentage of 30% of the mothers who took really great care of themselves. They have no idea (and neither did we) why they had a child (or children) who were stricken with problems.
I do believe, however, that many of us have ADD/ADHD because of genetics. My mother and her family are definitely ADD. It's quite apparent with certain symptoms. Unfortunately, because there are so many symptoms, the symptoms can vary from individual to individual. I still think that there is "much-ado" about ADD. There are many different kinds of ADD & some are more manageable than others.

From a personal point, my mother did not do drugs or smoke. She took really good care of herself when she was pregnant. She just happened to pass on her genes to me (as well as my father, of course).
Take care,
hips_n_giggles

Great question

LOL @ CRAZY FEET's comment on the toilet seat. You are such a hoot.

Crazy~Feet
08-09-06, 06:44 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/bordom.gif

Much of my ADD is impacted by what I perceive to be boredom...so I become humorous to break from that!

Crazy :cool: (who is thrilled to see Hips is back, Hips & Feet make for some great dancing!)