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speedo
08-15-06, 07:43 PM
Learning style is only now coming into focus as a legitimately recognized factor for persons who are a little different from the mainstream.

While digging through the internet, I came to the conclusion that most people with adhd have a visual-spatial learning style. Now, when you consider that people with adhd tend to have visualspatial processing defecits, it seems contradictory... and I've been in a fuge trying to unravel this little mystery for a while now...

I thought it might be nice to take a poll, and ask the community at large what their learning styles might be.

If you are no sure what visualspatial learning is, or what it means to an ADDer, go read this:

http://www.gifteddevelopment.com/Articles/vsl/v04b.pdf


I decided it might also be interesting to compart adders to autistics and neurotypical people..... hopefully enouigh of those two groups will ocme forward to contribute their part.



ME :D

dormammau2008
08-15-06, 07:53 PM
my style is a very visualspatial one an the way i do things an do art maths an soo meny other things say this i do think you can have both even if you have adhd it would dep on what your doing??? at time so witch bit brains been used i think this will become more apent in time.. it makes for intresting reading thankd for posting this dorm

speedo
08-15-06, 07:55 PM
I agree with you dorm. I think most people have more than one learning style. The thing that I am trying to determine is what their primary style is....are people mostly visualspatial ? or mostly auditory sequentuial?

ME :D

boone1
08-15-06, 08:01 PM
I'm a visual-spatial learner, I think schools should be more aware of the different learning types so that everyone can learn the way they learn best.

dormammau2008
08-15-06, 08:03 PM
hey speedo again great threde mmmm yes lerening styles may diff as you say an again deping what they may use at that time cos i think its fluid an intrechable deping on what they doing expalme in maths i use spatail thinking in art i use maths an speayil thinking an vieasl thinking toghter with combine them i get a diffent persptive theres so much more to what your asking much biger impercations what kinder style do you have???.....an do you think the type ofve add dL etc adhd ,,,,make the maine diff or again maybe in the past haveing the skills we do now were better for us deping on the feilde dorm ......thanks for the therd

VisualImagery
08-15-06, 08:12 PM
Speedo,

Great thread to start! The UK, Australia, New Zealand, and other countries are way ahead of the US in utilizing learning and working styles in education and the workplace. Here are several resources I believe are very helpful and give you tools to apply what you learn about your styles to your studies, career, and home-life.

Memlectics-Very interesting learning style assessment-have materials to sell, but I have not purchased any and still find the info from the assessment very useful to my students and myself. Take this online or print and take-it is self-scoring and free. Then read the explanations about how to use the results. From Australia
http://www.memletics.com/learning-skills-test/default.asp (http://www.memletics.com/learning-skills-test/default.asp)

Richard Felder's learning style info-An engineering professor who researches and utilizes learning style differences in the engineering program at NCSU. Great information, easy to read and comprehensive explanations. Everything is free!
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/ILSpage.html (http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/ILSpage.html)

Richard Felder-Publications-Full text access to most information
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/Learning_Styles.html (http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/Learning_Styles.html)

Creative Learning Centre's holistic approach to working and learning styles-from New Zealand. There is a fee to take their assessents, but I believe this is the best analysis I have taken and the results work well with the MAPP Assessment that is a for fee, but excellent tool. You can print out the analysis questions but cannot score them with out paying a fee. I think the Working style analysis is the most comprehensive for working adults and college students-you get much more comprehensive information for the fee. I get no kidck-back-this is just a resource I found and used.
http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/ (http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/)
Prices in US dollars: http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/pricing.asp?page=PRICE&...&cr=0%2E6264 (http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/pricing.asp?page=PRICE&prd=PRICE&all=1&&theme=wsa&cachecommand=bypass&cs=US%24&cr=0%2E6264)


Becky

boone1
08-15-06, 08:13 PM
Heres a quiz for anyone who doesn't know what there learning style is...

http://www.berghuis.co.nz/abiator/lsi/lsitest1.html


This one is more of a checklist: http://www.berghuis.co.nz/abiator/lsi/lsitest2.html
It still works out your learning style though.

boone1
08-15-06, 08:15 PM
Speedo,

Great thread to start! The UK, Australia, New Zealand, and other countries are way ahead of the US in utilizing learning and working styles in education and the workplace. Here are several resources I believe are very helpful and give you tools to apply what you learn about your styles to your studies, career, and home-life.

Memlectics-Very interesting learning style assessment-have materials to sell, but I have not purchased any and still find the info from the assessment very useful to my students and myself. Take this online or print and take-it is self-scoring and free. Then read the explanations about how to use the results. From Australia
http://www.memletics.com/learning-skills-test/default.asp (http://www.memletics.com/learning-skills-test/default.asp)

Richard Felder's learning style info-An engineering professor who researches and utilizes learning style differences in the engineering program at NCSU. Great information, easy to read and comprehensive explanations. Everything is free!
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/ILSpage.html (http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/ILSpage.html)

Richard Felder-Publications-Full text access to most information
http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/Learning_Styles.html (http://www.ncsu.edu/felder-public/Learning_Styles.html)

Creative Learning Centre's holistic approach to working and learning styles-from New Zealand. There is a fee to take their assessents, but I believe this is the best analysis I have taken and the results work well with the MAPP Assessment that is a for fee, but excellent tool. You can print out the analysis questions but cannot score them with out paying a fee. I think the Working style analysis is the most comprehensive for working adults and college students-you get much more comprehensive information for the fee. I get no kidck-back-this is just a resource I found and used.
http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/ (http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/)
Prices in US dollars: http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/pricing.asp?page=PRICE&...&cr=0%2E6264 (http://www.creativelearningcentre.com/pricing.asp?page=PRICE&prd=PRICE&all=1&&theme=wsa&cachecommand=bypass&cs=US%24&cr=0%2E6264)


Becky
Someone got there before me again! Thats twice now :D
These links are much better then mine!

speedo
08-15-06, 08:15 PM
Dorm;

If I go by what the people on visualspatial.org say I am primarilly visualspatial in style.
I do some things in an auditory sequential style, but my preferred style is visualspatial.

Yes, I think it is a very fluid thing too. It is hard to quantify, but I do think it is possible to learn enopugh about it to say some things in a qualitative sense.

My theory is that for whatever reason, people who have adhd, tend to have a visualspatial learning style as their primary style of learning. The trouble comes in when you consider that adders are supposed to have visualspatial processing defecits. Now, I'm wondering what is up with that ???

Can it be that we are compensating for our defecit by being more visualspatial ? Could it be that we experience disorder because our primary learning style is visualspatial when we have a defecit there ? Is it possible that our weakness is also our strength ???

ME :D

HighFunctioning
08-15-06, 08:18 PM
I've stated this before... but I'd think there would be an unfair bias towards VSL's in those with ADHD just by the temporal nature of auditory information. This is something that must be considered in the mix, as one is naturally going to prefer stimuli that doesn't disappear immediately. I think actual cognitive style has to be considered here, as well, something that is often ignored when discussing learning styles as learning style discussions pertain to presentation of information, as the context of discussion is usually classroom learning.

I am definitely a visual-spatial learner, though. And I drift off in both auditory (conversations) and visual (certain video games) situations that are temporal in nature.

speedo
08-15-06, 08:34 PM
If an ADDer hs a built in tendency to seek the most persistent stimulus (focus to stimuli) that would imply that the VSL style is inherently imposed by the ADHD.

I think a VSL style might also explain the tendency of an ADDer to lose focus so quickly when nonvisual stimulus is experienced (like noise).

This branches into cognitive style... I know that I am mosatly visual. I have learned htat I do better if I can make myself take the time to look at things in more detail. One property I have noticed; I can't keep an image in my mind when there is something noisy going on... which suggests that one cannot be visual and auditory at the same time.

Do "normal" people experience it like this ??

ME :D

VisualImagery
08-15-06, 09:51 PM
Someone got there before me again! Thats twice now :D
These links are much better then mine!
Thanks Boone, please share your info, you must have found some good info. I have added more links from my research-in progress.

Introduction to learning styles 101.


A short list of more different learning styles assessments, analyses, inventories, etc. Links to more info than you might ever want to use.


A Wikipedia introduction to Learning Styles-a great overview with many links; includes background info on my pioneers and researchers in the field.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_styles)


Felder-Silverman model

http://www.engr.ncsu.edu/learningstyles/ilsweb.html (http://www.engr.ncsu.edu/learningstyles/ilsweb.html)


VARK

http://www.vark-learn.com/english/index.asp (http://www.vark-learn.com/english/index.asp)


David A. Kolb's Learning Style Inventory

Multiple Intelligences, Gardner; both on the same link. http://pss.uvm.edu/pss162/learning_styles.html (http://pss.uvm.edu/pss162/learning_styles.html)


If you want to do more in-depth research on learning styles, the link below will take you to a tremendous number resources.

http://tip.psychology.org/index.html (http://tip.psychology.org/index.html)


An article about using the Keirsey Temperament Sorter at the university level.

http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/Academia/KierseyLearningStyles.html (http://www.virtualschool.edu/mon/Academia/KierseyLearningStyles.html)

Please share your links and information!
I am going to try and write a few articles about learning styles for the forum, just need to find a few more binders in my boxes.

Becky

meadd823
08-15-06, 10:33 PM
If I go by what the people on visualspatial.org say I am primarilly visualspatial in style.
I do some things in an auditory sequential style, but my preferred style is visualspatial.


Some times I test closer to visual other times auditory, I have access and can recall in either or (or forget in neither nor) The closest thing I have come to that describes my labeled learning style is "whole brain" , I can switch back and forth with ease and convert one to the other. Visual to auditory is moderately harder than auditory to visual because when I do go from visual to auditory I am usually trying to interpret or translate for others what I see in my head.

I can hear and process two conversation sententiously, Gary has a hard time understanding this because he can not do this he doesn't comprehend the ability and is always worried I am not really paying attention to him even when I repeat back every word he has said. If I miss some thing I know it and will ask.

Last night I was talking to Gary on my cell phone about which way to come back from Colorado, while listening to the CNAs ask questions and I answered Gary verbally while I used gestures to answer their questions, I was also able to hear request for things and comply all the while conversing with him. Apparently not every one can do this.

When on my medication I can actually process two different visual images in my head as I was able to visualize various route options in my head I was able to process the other visual images like reading reports. The only draw back when having multiple pictures in my head at the same time is I loose perferial vision. . .


I am as every one knows primarily hyper active now referred to as impulsive ADD. .Guess I got a busy brain (shrug) some times when the medication wears off especially if I am tired all this activity will collide and do some interesting "alterations and connections" this is when I see puns every where and tend to use them unknowingly!

I am a global learner this is the thing I have tested consistently for as far as style. I was looking for an "other option" in the pole, as I am not strictly one or the other I use both pretty regularly. Visual is faster most times I will admit but my auditory doesn't necessarily have to go at "out side" brain speeds if it is going to stay inside my head I can make it go as fast as I want. Wish I could do the same for other peoples speaking rates at times.


Is it possible that our weakness is also our strength ???

:D Irony describes a lot of things in life!

nature
08-16-06, 12:03 AM
Definitely not auditory sequential; it's funny though because I've never seen this breakdown of learning styles before. I seem to fit the visual spatial list well -- with some of the ADDer thrown in.

Always thought of myself as a "learn by doer" -- discussing concepts, doing lab work, making anything, fixing anything, problem solving are the best ways in which I learn. Reading sux.

I have very good incidental recall of information. Does anyone else experience this?

I am very interested in people and this incidental recall talent usually manifests in an ability to remember the names of partners and friends of my friends or relatively trivial facts about my friends that may come up once in conversation. I don't try to remember these things, I just often do. And I can remember these things sometimes after months without contact. This happens often enough that people who are just getting to know me almost alway comment on it. I can often only remember contextually however -- that is, when talking to them again.

I am HOPELESS at rote learning and traditional methods of studying. If there is no interaction or conceptual engagement for me there is very little learning.

VisualImagery
08-16-06, 12:52 AM
Here are the results of my memlectics learning style inventory. Thought you might like to see the way they present the results. The site wants to sell you stuff, but there is a lot of free info-no need to spend money.

Memletics Styles Graph:

http://www.learning-styles-online.com/graph/graph.aspx?user=17|13|13|10|19|13|7&Select1=&Select2=&Select3=&Select4=
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=200 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2>Style Scores

</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Visual</TD><TD align=left>17</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Social</TD><TD align=left>13</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Physical</TD><TD align=left>13</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Aural</TD><TD align=left>10</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Verbal</TD><TD align=left>19</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Solitary</TD><TD align=left>13</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Logical</TD><TD align=left>7</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

superdave
08-16-06, 11:01 AM
Here's what I got on the memlectics learning style inventory. I haven't yet figured out how to put the fancy graph here in my post, but you get the idea.

Style Scores
Visual 16
Social 12
Physical 13
Aural 19
Verbal 12
Solitary 13
Logical 12

Looks like I'm an AV learner. I always though it would be cool to run the projectors in class but I was enough of a nerd already! :D

Nova
08-16-06, 12:03 PM
"Nothing" is definitively 'black or white', HF...so I agree.

I'm a 'visual spatial learner'..but my hearing is impeccable.

I just am unable to 'follow directions', well.

Whether stated orally, or written.
I'm always 'skipping' steps in them.

Crazy~Feet
08-16-06, 12:43 PM
Eh well, I see pages of words unless someone paints a mental picture for me. If the spoken word can be translated into a mental image I do much better.

Crazy :cool:

dormammau2008
08-16-06, 01:25 PM
thanks speedo yeh i understand what you mean.....>>>......i think as i said it really deps on what kind things we doing at that time that detming our streghts an weakness on the ......spaicail things aduio iam not so shore on... i have to look more into that i thik our brains maybe more fliuded than most an insted ofve porcssing one thing we porcsss so meany things at the same time?????? this is our wekeness an streaght ????????......so crazy feet do you see words in 3d speace with....out the need for...paper there times after ive read something i can recall it an read it all over again that way again like art .......>>great thede dorm l,)))

Crazy~Feet
08-16-06, 01:29 PM
Yes its just like that Dorm! And the way you phrased that painted me a mental picture :). Maybe that's why you and I relate so well?

Cray :cool: (skippin' the Z that Drom will not see)

dormammau2008
08-16-06, 01:43 PM
yeh that must be it c f with a Z<< LOL thats how i get things most the time there are times when iam doing something an i get temply over lap ofve something ive read or seen come to the fold an have to fight though it mmm are we part the uneveic or is it part ofve us an we have our own space/time in us....realtiy is an amzeing things do you see things an think 100 diff use for the same thing or smiply upgarde ofve it to something more usefull.....the way we see things is what defines us as human beings dorm....l,0))))

Crazy~Feet
08-16-06, 01:48 PM
Dorm, don't ever change and by all means ignore the Z you do not see. Many of the dyslexics here do not see that dumb Z, why do you think they call me Cray anyway??

CRAY! :cool:

dormammau2008
08-16-06, 01:55 PM
OHHH I DIDNET SEE THAT??? you got me good on that one no i wont chagne good one on the z then,,,,wounders how meany on here missed that one....i though you were called ....>>>;.))) cray anyways lol.....dorm

Crazy~Feet
08-16-06, 01:58 PM
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/icon_rrrrrofl1.gif

Another excellent question...I ought to ask that question for the forum:

"Dyslexics: do you see or not see the Z in my user name?"

Cray :cool:

dormammau2008
08-16-06, 02:05 PM
i dont see it at all never have dorm lol why thanks c f

Crazy~Feet
08-16-06, 02:07 PM
i dont see it at all never have dorm lol why thanks c f I have always suspected as much, and thanks for the reply!

Cray :cool:

dormammau2008
08-16-06, 02:09 PM
bet half will have lol .....l.))) dorm glade to be ofve help c f

speedo
08-16-06, 06:20 PM
I wonder if an uppercase "Z" would be easier ?

ME :D

Crazy~Feet
08-16-06, 06:22 PM
I wonder if an uppercase "Z" would be easier ?

ME :Dhttp://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/icon_rotfl3.gif

dormammau2008
08-16-06, 07:09 PM
nron Z MIGHT do it lol dorm

speedo
08-16-06, 07:10 PM
getting back on topic....

I;m already convinced that many, maybe most ADDers have a visusal-spatial learning style.
This progably comes packaged with a tendency to think in pictures and a remarkable ability to grasp whole concepts, but somehow not understand the finer points....

If one has a visual-spatial primary learning style and at the same time has visualspatial processing defecits, doesn't this sort of explain hypersensitivity ?

Wouldn't an ADDer be easily ovewhelmed if their focus on the visual aspects of their environment was disrupted by strong input from the other senses ?
Woul;dn't this be due to the fact that the ADDer is already working at his/her neurological limits trying to process visualspatial information, and perhaops additional input from other senses leads to an overload state rather easily... ?

ME :D

kvrrd
08-16-06, 07:37 PM
I used to build the logic of a program in my head and if someone interrupted me it went crashing down...and I got rrreally irritated.
But I managed to learn sequentially in school. spatial and visual and tactile.
I cannot listen to 2 conversations - neither comes through.
I had my hearing tested and it's fine. Hyperfocus obliterates my hearing.
Can I be spatial sequential?
I need to do raddmom's test there...

speedo
08-16-06, 07:55 PM
Yah, take raddmom's test. I think the questionj here is what is the primary learning style ?
Most people have skills from several learning styles, but everyone has a leaerning style that they use the most. I think that some people have a greater tendency to use just one style all the tiome, while others find it easier, or better to switch from one style to another.

ME :D

speedo
08-16-06, 08:18 PM
I took the test at: http://www.learning-styles-online.com/inventory/


These are the results of your inventory. The scores are out of 20 for each style. A score of 20 indicates you use that style often.
Style Scores
Visual 13
Social 3
Physical 9
Aural 5
Verbal 8
Solitary 14
Logical 12

dormammau2008
08-17-06, 08:53 AM
If one has a visual-spatial primary learning style and at the same time has visualspatial processing defecits, doesn't this sort of explain hypersensitivity ?

<B>i think hypersensitivey....> is something diff more like a co morrid thing iam not shore if ....all adders have >>hypersensitivey....>it deps on what there doing an if there useing if its availas one then very littie limmtis but if they have to use more than one thing then like a computer thats been over used they run low on rescore to run the mindframe efftively ....<<BUT.. brain adders the in happens what like more that think i efftly run to it for resoucrs enough not an runing things meany take you if computer a etc food sleep ones normal from limmtims littite very have could then bit useing just its doing your deps all point good theres thinking visaul on limtitis>>i love logic dorm...:cool: </B>

dormammau2008
08-17-06, 01:01 PM
These are the results of your inventory. The scores are out of 20 for each style. A score of 20 indicates you use that style often.

<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="35%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=200 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2>Style Scores

</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Visual</TD><TD align=left>19</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Social</TD><TD align=left>12</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Physical</TD><TD align=left>16</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Aural</TD><TD align=left>16</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Verbal</TD><TD align=left>13</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Solitary</TD><TD align=left>16</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Logical</TD><TD align=left>18</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2> </TD><TR><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2>More Options

Edit questions and answers (http://www.learning-styles-online.com/inventory/questions.asp)
Edit/update your profile (http://www.learning-styles-online.com/inventory/userInfo.asp)
Share your results (http://www.learning-styles-online.com/inventory/shareStyles.asp)
User Menu (http://www.learning-styles-online.com/inventory/userMenu.asp)
Buy Report (http://www.learning-styles-online.com/inventory/verifyinfo.asp)

</TD><TR></TR></TBODY></TABLE>this is what came back on my style lerening .... dorm</TD><TD vAlign=top width="65%">Memletics Styles Graph:

http://www.learning-styles-online.com/graph/graph.aspx?user=19|12|16|16|13|16|18&Select1=&Select2=&Select3=&Select4=

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

kvrrd
08-17-06, 04:08 PM
Cool test - thanks Raddmom!

It kinda looks like my astrology chart - top left quadrant heavy.

<TABLE style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width="35%"><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=4 width=200 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2>Style Scores



</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Visual</TD><TD align=left>19</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Social</TD><TD align=left>13</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Physical</TD><TD align=left>16</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Aural</TD><TD align=left>8</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Verbal</TD><TD align=left>12</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Solitary</TD><TD align=left>19</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left>Logical</TD><TD align=left>18</TD><TR><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2></TD><TR><TR><TD align=left colSpan=2>



</TD><TR></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD><TD vAlign=top width="65%">Memletics Styles Graph:


http://www.learning-styles-online.com/graph/graph.aspx?user=19|13|16|8|12|19|18&Select1=&Select2=&Select3=&Select4=


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

SB_UK
08-20-06, 01:20 AM
visual[-spatial] ->- presumably data in via the optic nerve
auditory[-sequential] ->- presumably data in via the auditory nerve
tactile ->- presumably data in via the Peripheral NS

So ::non-controversial Google#1 (http://www.innvista.com/HEALTH/anatomy/osenses.htm)::
Receptors for the general senses are scattered throughout the body and are relatively simple in structure.
These receptors are classified according to the nature of the stimulus that excites them.
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Important sensor classes include:
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Pain
Temperature
Chemical
Touch[pressure,position]
: tactile, baroreceptors, and proprioceptors
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Sensory receptors for:
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Touch
Smell (olfaction):
The sense of smell is provided by paired olfactory organs located on either side of the nasal septum.
Olfactory receptors are highly modified neurons, amounting to between 10 and 20 million packed into a 5 cm² area. However, these cannot compare with those of some animals.
A dog sniffing for specified illegal items has an olfactory receptor surface 72 times greater than that of its handler.
Taste (gustatory):
Vision:
The sense of vision is the most relied upon of all the senses.
Hearing:

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I believe that (on the basis of the structural changes of brain through evolution (for instance the absence of an olfactory bulb in man) and its eminence in (for instance) - the mouse ... ... ... that evolution of brain of man is away from the sensory stimuli of taste and smell - towards improved capacity for data upload through optic and auditory (for sure) channels - and maybe through peripheral mechanoreceptors.
Furthermore - that any spare 'brain space' is also being taken up by deeper cognitive structures - increased capacity to think - remembering that the brain is constrained in size ... ... ...
... the more neurones (for sure the better) - however in a vessel of limited size (our head) - the most efficacious solution would involve the most efficient arrangement of neurones (think packing a suitcase with folded and unfolded clothes) and of carrying only what's necessary (ditching the olfactory senses) - making way for that rather nice new surfboard!
T-o-t-a-l-l-y RAD!!!d(...mom) ...:-)...

So - learning styles ... are all about the transduction of information down the pipelines (auditory, optical nerves ...etc... into storage within the brain (as substrate for the mind)) ...in such a way that we can use this information...

I believe that the ADDer has bigger pipelines (data pipelines - particularly visual and auditory) ... maybe tactile too ... more efficient storage of information (described by ADDForum member::Stabile as the metamodel web) ... deeper cognitive structures <used kinda="" like="" a="" verb=""> (in part supported by the metamodel web (logical structure) <used kinda="" like="" a="" noun="" (here=""> ... and that definition of learning style may prove difficult - being ... as it is ... the experiential perspective of an individual who is learning (transducing 'external' data into a usable form within an internal (mental) logical structure) ... ... ... but that the commonalities which we will see - will be towards learning (with neuroplasticity perhaps shaping our particular flavour of favourite pipeline) and thinking (use of the deeper cognitive structures [efficient data storage structure]) ... ... ...

...to be clear - I believe that the mind is a data driven engine - which is driven by the flow of data through neurones - data flows (neurotransmission) when the pipelines from the 'external' environment are delivering sensory information into the mind ... ... ... and also when the 'internal' environment is working maximally - think ... internal rrreality --- think ... beta waves on the EEG --- the waking state as a complex virtual reality - a rrreality - but not RRReality ... a rrreality less RRReal ...

...noting that rrreality relates to internal subjective reality and RRReality to external objective reality.
There's only 1 RRR ... there're (however) several billion rrr('s) ... ... ... as evidenced by the number of war(rr('s)) in our world.

SB.

My point then - the ADDer will max out on the scale (the plots of learning style presented in this thread) which the ADDer happens to use (to learn) - whether this be logical,visual (kinda' like Dorm and Kv) ... or verbal (kinda' like R-a-d-d(ude)) ... ... ...t-o-t-a-l-l-y! ...:-)...
</used></used>The optimal learning styles will be towards those pipelines which deliver mximal information in (down the pipelines) ... notably 'visual' ...

And as my mathematics teacher used to say to the recalcitrants ... sleeping atop of their tomes --- 'wotcha' doing lad - hoping that the information'll enter your head by osmosis' ... an interesting thought ... ... ... Dr Dawson ... 'an apple for your a'musings' ... ... ...
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meadd823
08-20-06, 04:20 AM
I took the test thingie it took a while to down load . . .in the end I got this thing along with this message

***Quote
These are the results of your inventory. The scores are out of 20 for each style. A score of 20 indicates you use that style often.*** End Quote

I had a bunch of numbers like this:

***Quote

Style Scores

Visual 18

Social 16

Physical 18

Aural 19

Verbal 18

Solitary 17

Logical 15

.*** End Quote



= I ain't very logical when it comes to learning styles! It jsut sort of happens . . . .or doesn't!


hoping that the information'll enter your head by osmosis'

That has got to be it! Obviously according to this thing I don't use any of these because I didn't score 20 on any of them and they missed the omosis type!


My picture thing look kind of like an unbrella! Were we supposed to try to make it round or oblong ???? I don't know I answered a bunch of questions and got an unbrella but no drink to put it in. I guess it is the osmosis kind for me!

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1126/umbrellaaj2.th.png (http://img96.imageshack.us/my.php?image=umbrellaaj2.png)

meadd823
08-20-06, 04:37 AM
Speedo is it too late to add osmosis style with ADD to your list?

Am I the only one that noticed all of the information was visual so if one was primaritly auditory then what? I guess that is where the use of my head phone comes in then it is a visual and auditory!

Oh yea I forgot to say thanks to Raddmom for the test and SB for giving me a type.

It really does work more like osmosis in that I either learn it or don't. It has more to do with suject matter than type of presentation I guess even according to this my visual and auditory are pretty close.


I don't learn well when I am paying bills!