JustNeedHelp
08-20-06, 03:49 PM
Question for all you chemists out there, Is it possible to get Methyl- Dextroamphetamine?
I heard someone say that Desoxyn was DextroMethAmphetamine, so i started thinking is that possible? to have Dextro- MethAmphetamine? and im not sure could you break apart the isomers of Methamp...? does it still have isomers even? and also can you get Methyl- DextroAmphetmaine, im not saying get as in buy but get as in make? just wondering as that woudl be a very helpfull drug for those who have such high doses of Dexedrine, they could lower there dose and possibly lower side effects as side effects generally increase with dose, and it might prove more financially smart also instead of taking 50 mg's of Dex, you can take 30 or 20 mg's of Methyl- Dextro... sounds reasonable to me, what about you?
Hyperion
08-20-06, 04:13 PM
I do not know offhand whether Desoxyn is racemic methamphetamine, or dextromethamphetamine, but yes, methamphetamine comes in two stereoisomers, just like regular amphetamine. There is a lefthanded, or levorotary (sometimes spelled laevorotary for you brits) and a righthanded, or dextrorotary isomer.
Just as with regular amphetamine, the d-isomer is more centrally active, meaning more brain stimulation, while the l-isomer is more peripherally active, meaning more body stimulation. In fact, I know that levoamphetamine is still used in some asthma meds, and I could have sworn that I saw an inhaler marked "levmetamfetamine" a while back.
Methyl-dextroamphetamine makes slightly less sense, only because the terms are used in the wrong order. I mean, you could call it that, I suppose, but it'd still be methamphetamine. Normally the term denoting the isomer comes first, usually abbreviated with d or l, or also s,r,+, and - for other types of enantiomers. Chemistry really isn't my thing, believe it or not, so I'm not completely sure. Generally the full name for the chemicals to which you refer are:
d n-methyl, a-methyl, phenylethylamine
and d a-methyl, phenylethylamine
Although the terminology could be used in a different order, so you could just as easily say:
a-methyl, n-methyl, phenylethylamine, but the problem with this is that it becomes confusing, as the term "amphetamine" is literally the abbreviation for "Alpha-MethylPHenylEThylAMINE," so using the terms out of order could confuse people. ("alpha refers to a position on the phenylethylamine skeleton where one can attach some carbon and hydrogen molecules).
Desoxyn is methamphetamine. It is a good med for adhd apparently, but rarely prescribed. My guess is tha tthe stigma associated with it inhibits doctors from using it.
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JustNeedHelp
08-20-06, 06:28 PM
yes well i wasnt sure if it could be done and if it could be done would it be dextromethamphetmaine? or methyl- dextroamphetamine (if even possible) but i personally think that should be looked into by the drug companies, i mean it makes since how it could help out right? add the methyl group to dextroamphetamine and it makes it flow between the blood barrier easier, thus increasing effects with minimal dosage. i think if they could make that then it woudl relaly help some people out... but i doubt it will ever happen... and it does make sence i accually thought that maybe if you tried to add the methyl group to dex-amp then it might also convert to dextro-methamp.... but anyway i wounder if it could be done...
lukeyboy21
08-27-06, 08:54 PM
Yes, the active component in desoxyn is in fact dextro-methamphetamine hydrochloride. Desoxyn is pure dextro-methamphetamine with no levomethamphetamine.
("alpha refers to a position on the phenylethylamine skeleton where one can attach some carbon and hydrogen molecules).
The term alpha refers to the fact that the chirality center on the phenylethylamine molecule is one carbon away from the benzene ring, beta would refer to two carbon away, gamma to three etc.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->