Withdrawl (or crashing - as the term used when I grew up) seems to be a problem for me on Adderall. I've been on Adderall for several months - but lately it seems to cause heart pounding and anxiety when it wears off - seriously bad ones too. This does not happen shen the med is working at all.

Does anyone here think Dexedrine might help? I would like to ask my Dr to switch me - but need to hear from the "real" experience here. TIA

umm... i had some problems too with adderall when it wore off, but overall i mainly switched due to jaw clenching, the come down was kinda annoying and for me it did include heart problems, now on dexedrine and no problems at all with come down the first few days were hard on the crash as it had been so long since i had taken my meds so startnig back up sucked but i adjusted and all was well. good luck.

- but need to hear from the "real" experience here. TIA

"Real" would be references that support what you say or do you mean something else by that word?

"Real" would be references that support what you say or do you mean something else by that word?Real, as opposed to "unreal" - commonly spouted by Dr.'s who talk quite often without any real experience. They tend to quote the PDR and not patient experiences - which they tend not to listen to and/or ignore. The people on this board tell it like it is - period.


I guess I might ask - what did you mean by asking?

Jon, IMO those of us who rebound on one stim may well rebound on another. It is not known why this happens to us, so rushing to avoid it by switching meds may be a fruitless gesture.

Rebound is something to work through, or around; it may be unavoidable for those of us who experience it.

Jon I have found there to be a very different effect, including a different withdrawal from each of the prescription stimulants, and I have taken each of them with the exception of the new drug Focalin. You will not know for sure until you try them for yourself, but from my experience I found Dexedrine to be much more therapeutic than Adderall in virtually every respect.

Yes, Lars, I am glad to see you online :) would you or would you not, say that a switch from Adderall to Dexadrine would be a way to circumvent rebound for a person who experiences it, definitively?

I am certainly interested to know this myself, although I have managed to move beyond my own personal issues with rebounding. I do know a woman who takes dexadrine herself I and experiences some very bad jagged edges from the shortacting Dex; I am trying to help find a better form of medication for the job she has to do in life.

Looking forward to your reply :) and hoping it will be helpful to my RL friend.

It really depends. If you are willing to take the risk of the drug not working as well. Then being stuck on it for two weeks until you see your Psych wouldn't be good either. But as most people do, you know your body and what is best for it. It might be a good thing to compare the two to see which is more effective for you. Everyone is so different. from most of the stimulants, you will go through this, some people have worse withdrawls than others. But we all go through it and it sucks.

Please be aware that we are not "withdrawing" from our medications. They are merely wearing off. Withdrawal is something that an addict goes through. It is normal to feel sadness at the loss of clarity, but this is not and never be withdrawal unless you have abused your medications and become addicted to them :(.

great point! Well said crazy feet!

great point! Well said crazy feet!Thanks so much for saying that KFab :) I do not mean to run roughshod over any noob ;) in fact it was your prolific posting that was my Happy Moment of the Day awhile ago!

I am just so tired of the uninformed in the world (and by that I do not mean the people here, I mean NT, "norms", the Patronizing and Annoying :D ya know...) believing that we simply MUST be addicted to stimulant meds :rolleyes:. My posts are meant to arm the newcomers with the knowledge they require to fight this ongoing battle in society.

Real, as opposed to "unreal" - commonly spouted by Dr.'s who talk quite often without any real experience. They tend to quote the PDR and not patient experiences - which they tend not to listen to and/or ignore. The people on this board tell it like it is - period.


I guess I might ask - what did you mean by asking?

I wanted know what you were driving at.


I didn't know we had that many Dr.'s on our message board who would bias the membership in such a way. Perhaps you know of many other Dr.s on the board who would do this? I know of two Dr.s that are members. One is a research scientist and teacher who posts about many topics. The other one posts every five months or so. As far as I know, neither has posted on any of your threads. On the other hand, your posts are almost exclusively about stimulant medication and specifically about bad side effects, using terms such as "crashing" and "withdrawl".
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So I have to ask, which perspective is the "real" perspective?

Yes, Lars, I am glad to see you online :) would you or would you not, say that a switch from Adderall to Dexadrine would be a way to circumvent rebound for a person who experiences it, definitively?

I am certainly interested to know this myself, although I have managed to move beyond my own personal issues with rebounding. I do know a woman who takes dexadrine herself I and experiences some very bad jagged edges from the shortacting Dex; I am trying to help find a better form of medication for the job she has to do in life.

Looking forward to your reply :) and hoping it will be helpful to my RL friend.
"Definitively?" I would not say either way "definitively," because we are all different, and I can only say what has worked best for myself. That being said, I would ask your friend to see if they could try all the versions of the short acting dextroamphetamine available if that is possible. I know for myself that they are all different in how they affect me.

Over the years I have tried the brand name Dexedrine immediate release, and I have tried all the generic immediate release versions available with the exception of the Ethex version, and I can assure you that they each have their own subtle, and some not so subtle differences. For instance, the Barr generic immediate release version of dextroamphetamine was the worst for me concerning "jagged edges" as you described it. The Mallinckrodt immediate release, and the brand name Dexedrine do not have that effect nearly as bad as the Barr version does, in fact it is barely noticable with those two versions.

Thanks Crazy feet! What did I post that made you happy? It is nice to know that any of us can come here for support. I am so thankful that I found this forum. Now I don't feel like such a wierdo. ;) THAT IS MY HAPPY MOMENT OF THE DAY!

"Definitively?" I would not say either way "definitively," because we are all different, and I can only say what has worked best for myself. That being said, I would ask your friend to see if they could try all the versions of the short acting dextroamphetamine available if that is possible. I know for myself that they are all different in how they affect me.

Over the years I have tried the brand name Dexedrine immediate release, and I have tried all the generic immediate release versions available with the exception of the Ethex version, and I can assure you that they each have their own subtle, and some not so subtle differences. For instance, the Barr generic immediate release version of dextroamphetamine was the worst for me concerning "jagged edges" as you described it. The Mallinckrodt immediate release, and the brand name Dexedrine do not have that effect nearly as bad as the Barr version does, in fact it is barely noticable with those two versions.Thanks a lot, Lars! :) I really want to be able to help my friend, but have no experience with Dex myself and she has no time to join us here at ADDF.

Thanks Crazy feet! What did I post that made you happy? It is nice to know that any of us can come here for support. I am so thankful that I found this forum. Now I don't feel like such a wierdo. ;) THAT IS MY HAPPY MOMENT OF THE DAY!Nothing in particular, it is just that you leapt in and became so active that made my day that day. :)

I'd like to jump in here and offer my two cents. The "withdrawl" effects of ritalin (in both instant and extended release XR,LA, and focolin) were so bad that I experienced a severe level of depression. These experiences were on small doses too. Aderall in both short and long acting form were 100% better than ritalin but still gave me a pretty nasty withdrawl effect (also taken in small doses). Dexadrine has been by far and away the most effective medicine for me. The withdraw isn't as bad (though all stims have the potential) and the clarity is more even. Like I've mentioned in another post I've noticed Dexadrine being possibly more preffered among ADD inattentive sub-types. I take (and mix) both short acting and long acting. Didn't notice much of a difference between Mall and Barr, but I'll "pay more attention" in the future. This al comes from someone who is very skeptical about one brand or one type of a similar medication having the ability to be significantly different than other forms. ...if that made sense. Hay Crazyfeet (or anyone else) anytips on shortening or transitioning more quickly out of either the upper or down phase of these stims? I sometimes have terrible sleep issues and I need to pull the brakes to avert a disastrous next day (I'm an acccountant of all things- different story). It take 3x the normal amount (1mg) of klonopin to ease off only 5 or 10mg of dexadrine. I'm hyper sensitive to stimulants apperantly.