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Zach326
09-08-06, 04:32 PM
A friend of mind recommended I read through this book:

http://www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf#search=%22kybalion%22

I found it to be a fun read (although it can read a tad bit like a bible at times) but wasn’t sure how much of its information was really valid or useful.

I was just curious if anyone has already read it and / or has any experience with ‘Hermetic philosophy’.

Feel free to poke fun at the book, I don’t have any attachment to it (in fact it all seems a little too ‘metaphysical’ for my taste.)

Here are some related Wikipedia links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermeticism

Note that his is called a ‘philosophy’ and not a ‘religion’ but if I’ve somehow stepped over some forum guideline, I apologize in advance.

Hope you have fun with it

SB_UK
09-08-06, 05:00 PM
good call! {again} ... {again} ...

... the issue changes some now ...
... you're seeing that there's a chunk of truth in threads of thought outside of 'classical science'
... the game now becomes to look for the commonalities, differences and commonly and rarely shared commonalities in that other domain (and to return these thoughts to the fold) - to explain them logically ...

... ... ... from {pretty much} line 1 of Wiki on Kybalion ...

->- "All is Mind".
That is rrreality

rrreality is All in the mind
RRReality is not

All is Mind {in rrreality}
All is not Mind {in RRReality}

SB.

Zach326
09-08-06, 05:32 PM
Always fun to hear from you SB.

The chapter on 'Vibration' comes to mind.
They first make a connection to science then claim they have 'knowledge' beyond science. This is where it gets a bet too metaphysical for me, but perhaps it's more metaphorical then metaphysical and I'm missing just something.

"Let us suppose the object moving slowly. It may be seen readily, but no sound of its movement reaches the ear. The speed is gradually increased. In a few moments its movement becomes so rapid that a deep growl or low note may be heard. Then as the rate is increased the note rises one in the musical scale. Then, the motion being still further increased, the next highest note is distinguished. Then, one after another, all the notes of the musical scale appear, rising higher and higher as the motion is increased. Finally when the motions have reached a certain rate the final note perceptible to human ears is reached and the shrill, piercing shriek dies away, and silence follows. No sound is heard from the revolving object, the rate of motion being so high that the human ear cannot register the vibrations. Then comes the perception of rising degrees of Heat. Then after quite a time the eye catches a glimpse of the object becoming a dull dark reddish color. As the rate increases, the red becomes brighter. Then as the speed is increased, the red melts into an orange. Then the orange melts into a yellow. Then follow, successively, the shades of green, blue, indigo, and finally violet, as the rate of speed increases. Then the violet shades away, and all color disappears, the human eye not being able to register them. But there are invisible rays emanating from the revolving object, the rays that are used in photographing, and other subtle rays of light. Then begin to manifest the peculiar rays known as the “X Rays,” etc., as the constitution of the object changes. Electricity and Magnetism are emitted when the appropriate rate of vibration is attained. When the object reaches a certain rate of vibration its molecules disintegrate, and resolve themselves into the original elements or atoms. Then the atoms, following the Principle of Vibration, are separated into the countless corpuscles of which they are composed. And finally, even the corpuscles disappear and the object may be said to be composed of The Ethereal Substance.


Science does not dare to follow the illustration further, but the Hermetists teach that if the vibrations be continually increased the object would mount up the successive states of manifestation and would in turn manifest the various mental stages, and then on Spiritward, until it would finally re-enter THE ALL, which is Absolute Spirit. The “object,” however, would have ceased to be an “object” long before the stage of Ethereal Substance was reached, but otherwise the illustration is correct inasmuch as it shows the effect of constantly increased rates and modes of vibration. It must be remembered, in the above illustration, that at the stages at which the “object” throws off vibrations of light, heat, etc., it is not actually “resolved” into those forms of energy (which are much higher in the scale), but simply that it reaches a degree of vibration in which those forms of energy are liberated, in a degree, from the confining influences of its molecules, atoms and corpuscles, as the case may be. These forms of energy, although much higher in the scale than matter, are imprisoned and confined in the material combinations, by reason of the energies manifesting through, and using material forms, but thus becoming entangled and confined in their creations of material forms, which, to an extent, is true of all creations, the creating force becoming involved in its creation."



Your thoughts?

qinkin
09-08-06, 10:57 PM
if all was mind, then

physical world does not exist,
the world as we think about it, neither does

i think it's all waves, patterns w/in patterns (alan watts)

patterns, focused, and unfocused on.


when u say perspective is everything, what does that imply?

SB_UK
09-09-06, 05:24 AM
And finally, even the corpuscles disappear ...{~}...The “object” ...{~}... would have ceased to be an “object” ...->->->-Slightly different 'object' {us}, identical idea.*

ADDF Thread::Evol Psych #601 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=333955&postcount=601) [E-boy],#602
Therefore selective self destruction becomes one of a number of options natural selection can capitolize on in the right circumstances ...
->->->-Slightly different 'self' {internal, individual unique personal rrreality}, identical idea.*

->->->-

object == self

...:-)... SB.

*global consciousness

meadd823
09-09-06, 07:25 AM
Okay so we are all each other ADD illusions and a forum administrative night mare- :p

D.B. Cooper
09-09-06, 07:39 AM
Im an existentialist by nature (not choice) so i've become some what familiar with hermeticism. While it is interesting to me the problem lies in trying to pin down the true meaning and mechanics behind the ideas. Every writer seems to have their own take on the subject as you further investigate it. Then theres the danger of taking it to extremes which leads you to crowley and his crowd...personally not someone i'd want to be associated with.

SB_UK
09-09-06, 03:04 PM
...existentialist...The problem though, as the issue becomes harder and more complex, and subjectivity colours the portrayal, that actually reading the texts from which these trinket tidbits are extracted - becomes important.
I'll grab my version of Sartre's Nausea and quote a couple of bits. ADDF thread:: (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23067)Control,Choice #24 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=236596&postcount=24)

oopsy! [b]... Better late than never ...

Page 85
'you see a woman, you think that one day she will be old,
only you don't see her grow old. But there are moments when you think you see her growing old
and you feel yourself growing old with her: that is the feeling of adventure.'

Page 205
'I have a sort of ... physical certainty'

SB.

SB_UK
09-09-06, 03:33 PM
Let us suppose the object moving slowly. It may be seen readily, but no sound of its movement reaches the ear. The speed is gradually increased. In a few moments its movement becomes so rapid that a deep growl or low note may be heard. Then as the rate is increased the note rises one in the musical scale. Then, the motion being still further increased, the next highest note is distinguished. Then, one after another, all the notes of the musical scale appear, rising higher and higher as the motion is increased. Finally when the motions have reached a certain rate the final note perceptible to human ears is reached and the shrill, piercing shriek dies away, and silence follows. No sound is heard from the revolving object, the rate of motion being so high that the human ear cannot register the vibrations. Then comes the perception of rising degrees of Heat. Then after quite a time the eye catches a glimpse of the object becoming a dull dark reddish color. As the rate increases, the red becomes brighter. Then as the speed is increased, the red melts into an orange. Then the orange melts into a yellow. Then follow, successively, the shades of green, blue, indigo, and finally violet, as the rate of speed increases. Then the violet shades away, and all color disappears, the human eye not being able to register them. But there are invisible rays emanating from the revolving object, the rays that are used in photographing, and other subtle rays of light. Then begin to manifest the peculiar rays known as the “X Rays,” etc., as the constitution of the object changes. EM spectrum
(low energy,wavelength,frequency ->->->- High e,w,f

{Radio waves} ->->->- {Infra-red} ->->->- {Visible} ->->->- {Ultraviolet} ->->->- {Gamma-rays ->->->-X-rays}

[[[Visible ->->->-
Red-O-Y-G-B-I-Violet]]]

... ... ... X-rays} {*} {Radio waves}

SB.

* All important

SB_UK
09-09-06, 03:54 PM
The all important point is that waves within the electromagnetic spectrum carry energy.

This energy may be sequestered by {e.g. life} thereby witnessing the transformation of that energy into another 'state'.

The state which that energy is rolled into may be considered an evolution ...

{rabbit hole entrance}
... ... of the 'state' of the energy - and that evolution - I believe, is a pattern - which may be called the 'Universal rule of evolution.'
The pattern involves the numbers {3,4,13}.

... vision, sound {energy} relayed into the brain 'feeds' neurones - *feeds* - feeds ->- as in sustainance ...
ADDF thread::Evol Obesity #4 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=333195&postcount=4)

The evolution of life from stomatolite to ADDer socialite may be explained using the 'Universal rule of evolution.'
Multiple cycles through {3,4,13}.

...meaning that indeed, yes ... ... ..
i think it's all waves, patterns w/in patterns rabbit hole mapped *extensively* in
ADDF thread:: (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28559)Evol Psych
... with a little help from ...
ADDF thread:: (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26051)Metamind

SB.

SB_UK
09-09-06, 04:17 PM
Electricity and Magnetism are emitted when the appropriate rate of vibration is attained.
Emitted???
When the object reaches a certain rate of vibration its molecules disintegrate, and resolve themselves into the original elements or atoms.
particle:wave duality - though explained without substance?
Then the atoms, following the Principle of Vibration, are separated into the countless corpuscles of which they are composed. And finally, even the corpuscles disappear and the object may be said to be composed of The Ethereal Substance.
Emergent phenomena explained as though new forms are generated by a dissolution and resurrection of fundamental structure
A corpuscle as the fundamental particle?
A corpuscle as endowed with mystical properties.
Science does not dare to follow the illustration further,
Silly science
but the Hermetists teach that if the vibrations be continually increased
Wouldn't use the word 'vibration'
the object would mount up the successive states of manifestation and would in turn manifest the various mental stages, and then on Spiritward,
Lots going on here --- most importantly the 'Universal rule of evolution' {without providing it} ... rolling the evolution of our mental state, our physical state and everything else - into the same 'pot'
This idea - me like!!!
until it would finally re-enter THE ALL, which is Absolute Spirit.
This bit has been on my mind for weeks ... ... ...
The “object,” however, would have ceased to be an “object” long before the stage of Ethereal Substance was reached, but otherwise the illustration is correct inasmuch as it shows the effect of constantly increased rates and modes of vibration. It must be remembered, in the above illustration, that at the stages at which the “object” throws off vibrations of light, heat, etc., it is not actually “resolved” into those forms of energy (which are much higher in the scale), but simply that it reaches a degree of vibration in which those forms of energy are liberated, in a degree, from the confining influences of its molecules, atoms and corpuscles, as the case may be. These forms of energy, although much higher in the scale than matter, are imprisoned and confined in the material combinations, by reason of the energies manifesting through, and using material forms, but thus becoming entangled and confined in their creations of material forms, which, to an extent, is true of all creations, the creating force becoming involved in its creation.
The mysterious quality of emergence - essentially unknowable - and a response dictated by environmental concerns with sole expectation of expediting the 'Universal rule of evolution.'

The rule just kinda' drops down to re-instating stasis after the freakin Big Bang.
'Balance'

Dude ... Universal energy, dude ... 'chill!'

... :-) ...

SB.

Zach326
09-09-06, 07:53 PM
I'm a little caught off guard by the number of responses.. :eek:
when I get a chance I’ll sit down and reply.

I can say to bosipheus

"Perspective is everything" has already been explained by the responses in this thread alone which makes it easy for me.

"Every writer seems to have their own take on the subject as you further investigate it."

"The problem though, as the issue becomes harder and more complex, and subjectivity colours the portrayal, that actually reading the texts from which these trinket tidbits are extracted - becomes important."

We all have our own 'point of view' on reality, given life experience and 'position' (as much as you can have one) in the 'multi'? 'uni'? verse. No one else 'experiances' rrreality (and thus perceives RRREALITY) the way you do.

Is that clear? I'm not very good at getting my thoughts down as text...

SB: 3x2=6 as qouted

3 = two 'objects' and the ?'distance'? between them.

....the grey between light and dark....

but when does grey become black?

...and what’s that 6 about?

SB_UK
09-10-06, 01:30 AM
3x2=6 ... and what’s that 6 about?:-) ... playing with numbers --- jusk ask Tammy ... ho lordy!3x2=6:-)
SB.

Zach326
326 -<-{backwards-<-sdrawkcab}
->- 623 -<-{Tammy is too ADD->-so add 2}
->- (6+2)23
->- 823
MeADD823 {Tams}

Zach326
09-10-06, 12:28 PM
Ah, I did not make that connection

My numbers do have meaning though

Thought you had found it.<o:p></o:p>

Maybe you did.<o:p></o:p>

Meaning is found in relationships<o:p></o:p>

Life is a series of relationships<o:p></o:p>

So is there meaning in life?<o:p></o:p>

Or is life in meaning?<o:p></o:p>

Or is life just mean?<o:p></o:p>

I suggest we compose a letter.<o:p></o:p>

Dear Life:<o:p></o:p>

What do you mean?<o:p></o:p>

From: Folks at ADDF<o:p></o:p>

I await a reply....<o:p></o:p>

SB_UK
09-10-06, 02:36 PM
So is there meaning in life?<o></o> Or is life in meaning?<o></o> Or is life just mean?<o></o>physics of the very small
evolution of life
evolution of mind
evolution of man {into the future?}
love, psychiatric conditions and sausages {vegetarian}
physics of the very large

~evolution~

... welcome :-) to my* World ...

~more on Tesla, I stink~

sb.

*our

Zach326
09-11-06, 06:47 PM
individual Nueron vs individual Human

individual human vs human society

Human society vs Human race.

If a cell dies for a human

does a human die for a society

and a society for a species?

Death is part of 'evolution', part of 'change'?

reminds me of:

Tom Hanks character in the movie "Cast Away"

He 'relates' to his volly ball 'Wilson'

He even feels a tragic loss when he loses Wilson at sea

---------------------------

I'm a little lost right now; I may be responding to this thread as well as honestly, what is your thing. (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=335124#post335124)

I think these two threads are kind of 'blending' 'changing' 'evolving'
into the same thread.

SB_UK
09-13-06, 04:02 PM
... ... ... From {* (http://showpost.php?p=335641&postcount=26)Tao, I Ching} to {* (http://showpost.php?p=334290&postcount=10)Hermetic Philosophy, Kybalion} ... ... ...


Look to the pattern

... ... ... From {Hermetic Philosophy, Kybalion} to {* (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=335346&postcount=21)Hinduism, chakras} ... ... ...
Look to the pattern

... ... ... and back again ... ... ...

... ... ... From {Hinduism, chakras} to {Tao, I Ching} ... ... ...
My question - 'why?' -

*this is not a chance overlap.*

qinkin
09-15-06, 01:20 AM
i've experienced the popping noise, lol



i notice it a lot

crazy, i thought my brain was igniting. you know like an igniter. little electric spark.

it sparks, or pops when u first seperate.. that means keep it going

a good support for this is remembering that you cannot make any mistakes. . .

that way u won't make any, lol!!!

fear, IMO, is a great part of ADDers and meds. Why they take meds. Afraid to be themselves. Remember, the social game is only a game... don't have to be so serious. This is the partent's resposibility to their children.

no biggie

postponment of enlightenment, is all.

Meds are a product, of this....

Jail, as well...

I say, everyone's a little crazy. . . enough trying to play ur role.. . just be ur role..it's whatever u want it to be...regardless

like a fish in the sea, the prisoners want to be free....they really do, afterall (deep down, at least)....begin the journey to right here...no more postponements..

grow up, have some fun. REAL fun.

(go to bed, bye now)

qinkin
09-15-06, 02:18 AM
Kybalion---





In this little work we have endeavored to give you an idea of the fundamental teachings of
The Kybalion, striving to give you the working Principles, leaving you to apply them

yourselves, rather than attempting to work out the teaching in detail. If you are a true

student, you will be able to work out and apply these Principles–if not, then you must

develop yourself into one, for otherwise the Hermetic Teachings will be as "words, words,

words" to you.

/end Kybalion


really swing with it! right now

(pop)
get it? u can feel when ur in a trance like state,

unlearn inhibition- ADDer must too....

take that. monkey mind-monkey see, and monkey do or do not.

going back b4 u can go forward.

been thinking about this

start a new world

completely, almost

it's fun to destroy isn't it? Let's do it, then?

back to square one, but with more. U wanted to be "here" in the first place. U need to go back b4 u can "evolve".

going back cultivates self-awarness.

self- as universe. ok, do it.... everything is on the self... if u can understand u- the UUUUUniverse is a snap.

don't think, just be it...anything, anytime,

the self, everything's included. Even thoughts are.

meadd823
09-15-06, 03:40 AM
I'm a little caught off guard by the number of responses..when I get a chance I’ll sit down and reply.


Okay when my brain turns into a computer or the writing become such as I can get my computer to translate it for me then I shall know what is being said except images, paths, and connection types. May be is the brain that needs a tweaking hard to tell some times.





when u say perspective is everything, what does that imply?


When you perceive no more, then there is no more to perceive.

or

two people see a coin one sees the picture as having a head the other as having a bird, they each only see one side of the coin and perceive that is what all sides look like. . . . .

or

life is only a reflection of your own perspective.

Which ever suites the individual reader. They all apply depending on where you are in rrreality when you read it.





Why they take meds. Afraid to be themselves. Remember, the social game is only a game... don't have to be so serious. This is the partent's resposibility to their children.


Bosipheus hope you do not mind a little questioning of this opinion here. . . . saying I take medication only because of society, is like telling me I am short while never knowing what I look like. Often the need of others out weights the desire of the one. . . . my mom called this Love.

Meds, no meds does it matter? . . . these things make the most sense after I have been awake for a 32 hour day . . . . meds do not matter. . . . .mind does – in my perception but not necessarily yours. . . which is way cool by the way . . . ..I prefer people variations more variation more questions I like questions. . . . . . feel free to answer should the desire stirke you if not no worries . . . . . ;)


Why can’t I take medications and still be me? If society is only a game does that include you and I as well? I am me, but I am able to walk in their world and in my own is as advantageous as having binocular vision as opposed to only seeing through one eye. . . the depth is increase by the number of “states” one can access or as in the initial post depth of existence is determined by the number of “vibrations” one can achieve . . . . from sub-auditory to visually invisible . .. don’t you know my questions would have driven the masters nuts! I was born this way . . . always full of questions . . . . . .seeing all these various perspectives and knot knowing which one who is in . . . . .it has always been this way for me but rarely was able to converse as such. . . . . . .I was always referred as to the question box . . .wonder why?





I'm a little lost right now; I may be responding to this thread as well as honestly, what is your thing.

LOL- I have done this but no biggie unless you are responding to a joke and accident land it in a serious thread oops wrong door . . . . .life get interesting when I get m y forums mixed up but what really bites is when no one realizes the difference :o . . . . . . but does that bite in the butt only remind us that life death are all the same things brought about by the same creative hand . . . . energy neither is destroyed nor taken away but merely changes in shape and form and wow does grand paw look different is cousin Suzie dress but is he still grandpa?



Welcome to the tip of the ice berg called my mind . . . . my brain has a mind of it’s own the mind knows things I don’t . . . .not quiet sure I only know it happens . . . .and I aint trying to make it happen . . . . .


. . . . .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .~*~, , , , .~*~ , , , , .~*~

MeADD823 {Tams}

Yepper number are all the same but run into infinity and you knew I would make it back here . . :) . .. distract by life in general both general add and other wise

I learned I can not hate, even when I want to, it simply doesn’t happen. . . . . . . . but I can still love, feel empathy, and compassion . . .. . . rather strange is I am not afraid of not hating or of being hated. Think hate a fear are connect, like every thing else including life and death? How can I feel one without the other think it is that eeemotional EEEnergy thing?


I just know some thing hapened but ain't overly sure what . . . . . .it is a good thing . . . . . . .how can it not be ?. . . . . .. . .Feels too much like freedom!

Zach326
09-15-06, 01:05 PM
/*
IV. THE PRINCIPLE OF POLARITY.

“Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all
paradoxes may be reconciled.”–The Kybalion.

This Principle embodies the truth that “everything is dual”; “everything has two poles”; “everything has its pair of opposites,” all of which were old Hermetic axioms. It explains the old paradoxes, that have perplexed so many, which have been stated as follows: “Thesis and antithesis are identical in nature, but different in degree”; “opposites are the same, differing only in degree”; “the pairs of opposites may be reconciled”; “extremes meet”; “everything is and isn't, at the same time”; “all truths are but half-truths”; “every truth is half false”; “there are two sides to everything,” etc., etc., etc. It explains that in everything there
are two poles, or opposite aspects, and that “opposites” are really only the two extremes of the same thing, with many varying degrees between them To illustrate: Heat and Cold, although “opposites,” are really the same thing, the differences consisting merely of degrees of the same thing. Look at your thermometer and see if you can discover where “heat” terminates and “cold” begins! There is no such thing as “absolute heat” or “absolute cold”– the two terms “heat” and “cold” simply indicate varying degrees of the same thing, and that “same thing” which manifests as “heat” and “cold” is merely a form, variety, and rate of Vibration. So “heat” and “cold” are simply the “two poles” of that which we call “Heat”–and the phenomena attendant thereupon are manifestations of the Principle of Polarity. The same principle manifests in the case of “Light and Darkness,” which are the same thing, the difference consisting of varying degrees between the two poles of the phenomena. Where does “darkness” leave off, and “light” begin? What is the difference between “Large and
Small”? Between “Hard and Soft”? Between “Black and White”? Between “Sharp and Dull”? Between “Noise and Quiet”? Between “High and Low”? Between “Positive and Negative”? The Principle of Polarity explains these paradoxes, and no other Principle can supersede it. The same Principle operates on the Mental Plane. Let us take a radical and extreme example that of “Love and Hate,” two mental states apparently totally different. And yet there are degrees of Hate and degrees of Love, and a middle point in which we use the terms “Like or Dislike,” which shade into each other so gradually that sometimes we are at a loss to know whether we “like” or “dislike” or “neither.” And all are simply degrees of the same thing, as you will see if you will but think a moment. And, more than this (and considered of more importance by the Hermetists), it is possible to change the vibrations of Hate to the vibrations of Love, in one's own mind, and in the minds of others. Many of you, who read these lines, have had personal experiences of the involuntary rapid transition from Love to Hate, and the reverse, in your own case and that of others. And you will therefore realize the possibility of this being accomplished by the use of the Will, by means of the Hermetic formulas. “Good and Evil” are but the poles of the same thing, and the Hermetist understands the art of transmuting Evil into Good, by means of an application of the Principle of Polarity. In short, the “Art of Polarization” becomes a phase of “Mental Alchemy” known and practiced by the ancient and modern Hermetic Masters. An understanding of the Principle will enable one to change his own Polarity, as well as that of others, if he will devote the time and study necessary to master the art. */

// - the kybalion

This brings us back to relation Meadd :-)

SB_UK
09-15-06, 01:12 PM
Enlightening?
.........:-)...


ADDF thread::Pure ADD [kvrrd] #277 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=306843&postcount=277)

Hartmann wrote 'The Edison Gene', 2003. I have it in my hands.

His intro starts with an earthquake in India and his sharing a train ride with some Indian business men and a physician. He asks if they are familiar with types of people who crave stimulation, lack focus, hop from career to career or relationship to relationship, but the whole time they remain creative and inventive? They, the Indian men all nodded and agreed that they know this type well. These are old Karmic souls, nearing enlightenment. The purpose of reincarnation is to eventually free oneself from worldly entanglements and desires.
ADDF thread::Hermetic Philosophy [Bosipheus] #18 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=336187#post336187)
...postponement of enlightenment, is all...SB.

Enlightened?
.........:-)...

SB_UK
09-15-06, 01:34 PM
What if our popular characterizations of 'enlightenment' were to prove to be a mmmeeetttaaa{metaphor}ppphhhooorrr -?-
Might enlightenment ever represent a state of mind in which a state of stability is attained -?- a state in which - {All we {truly, madly,deeply} felt we needed} - was nothing much more than just a couple of practicalities and a couple to three relationships (all covered by the umbrell term l-o-v-e, actually ...?...?...?...
...love, actually - *not just words* ...
... ... ... a couple of mundane practicalities and love (broad-sense) ...?...?...?...
SB.

meadd823
09-15-06, 01:43 PM
Look at your thermometer and see if you can discover where “heat” terminates and “cold” begins! There is no such thing as “absolute heat” or “absolute cold”– the two terms “heat” and “cold” simply indicate varying degrees of the same thing, and that “same thing” which manifests as “heat” and “cold” is merely a form, variety, and rate of Vibration.


Cold is the absence of heat, evil is a description for the absence of good, dark is a word used to describe the absence of light, eternity is an absence of time.


All things happen at the same time, or they never happen at all! Dimensions are a matter of time.






And yet there are degrees of Hate and degrees of Love, and a middle point in which we use the terms “Like or Dislike,” which shade into each other so gradually that sometimes we are at a loss to know whether we “like” or “dislike” or “neither.”

Love, hate, ambivalent = positive, negative, neutral






And you will therefore realize the possibility of this being accomplished by the use of the Will, by means of the Hermetic formulas


Not my will. . . . . . . .experience happened to me I didn’t happen to it!





Good and Evil” are but the poles of the same thing, and the Hermetist understands the art of transmuting Evil into Good, by means of an application of the Principle of Polarity. In short, the “Art of Polarization” becomes a phase of “Mental Alchemy” known and practiced by the ancient and modern Hermetic Masters. An understanding of the Principle will enable one to change his own Polarity, as well as that of others, if he will devote the time and study necessary to master the art. */


Thank God I didn’t have to go through all of the above,(literal sense) transition was through forgiveness. Studying wasn't required only turn loose of my own resentment. I am not a master of any thing some times not even of my own brain. See my brain has a mind of it’s own.


But me body has bills to pay . . . . . .
Work time for meadd823!

Zach326
09-15-06, 01:46 PM
3 connections - relations

between 4 letters !

Meadd i think i made a half decent post on the majority of 'misunderstandings'

I although i'm sure i type IT (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=336410&postcount=7) horribly! ;-)

Zach326
09-15-06, 01:53 PM
Keep in mind Meadd that I didn't write the Kybalion.

I was just posting something in 'it' that was relevant to something that was mentioned in the thread.

<o:p> </o:p>I can't say I’m a master of anything, especially anyone’s mind :-)

SB_UK
09-15-06, 02:14 PM
3 connections {A,B,C} - relations ... between 4 letters {L O V E} !::EVOLUTION::
simple ->- complex

::Evolution of man::

-PHYSICAL LAYER-
{A} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation I - sexual reproduction

-MENTAL LAYER-
{B} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation II - meeting of minds 1:1 - pair bonding

-SPIRITUAL LAYER-
{C} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation III - brother/sisterhood of man - a viable society
3 connections {A,B,C} - relations ... between 4 letters {L O V E} !sb.

SB_UK
09-15-06, 02:48 PM
::EVOLUTION::
simple ->- complex

::Evolution of man::

-PHYSICAL LAYER-
{A} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation I - sexual reproduction
... If man is 5, if man is 5, if man is 5 ...

-MENTAL LAYER-
{B} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation II - meeting of minds 1:1 - pair bonding
... Then the devil is 6, then the devil is 6, then the devil is 6 ... And if the devil is 6 ...

-SPIRITUAL LAYER-
{C} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation III - brother/sisterhood of man - a viable society
... Then God is 7, then God is 7, then God is 7 ...

sb.
~This monkey's flyin' to Heaven~
.........~Pixies~ ~Doolittle~

ADDF thread::Evol Psych [Nova] #347 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=314826&postcount=347)
"Actually, if you ask me...we wouldn't need 'psychology' for evolution...if you follow that...
l...o...v...e...
..........the 7 nth
~~w~~a~~v~~e~~<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->"

SB_UK
09-16-06, 02:37 AM
-----------------------------------
Dyslexic dogs speak vole
-----------------------------------

So Homey dog falls into 'Mountains2Mo's place' - "dude Mo dude" --- "toss me a Bud dudeModude" - and slumps in fronta'Mo's tv - 4400 people is on -"Margypoodle gonna'get you DeputyHomeydawgy" ... ... ... "...dude..." ..."... ... ... geeze ... ... ..." ... "sure you don't want an OJ" JC appears on tv directing traffic ... and as Homey downs his 14th bourbon chaser - he feels a ...doh... comin'on ..."doh!!!"... It's Marg. "DeputyHomeydawgPoopDoggyPoop" "...come home..." Homey was sinking into that state again - and encircling Marg - Homey sees Mo chanting "V V V V" and his bottla'Bud "O O O O" and JC "L L L L"
... ... ... and then some freakin'multi-armed dancin' Shidude "E E E E" ... ... ... "...cool..."
~and then the next thing you know~
... the four images dance rotate around in a circle, in a circle around Marg's bouffant
... {as one} ...
"...cool..."
... {as one} ...
Dyslexic dogs speak of vole ... and they ain't wrong.

------------------------------- -------------------------------

Homey ups and leaves and heads back to Bart Central.
"Marg ... ... ..." "Yes? Homey"
"Dyslexic dogs speak of vole ... and they ain't wrong."
"Awww Homey, I know."

------------------------------- -------------------------------

ADDF thread::Evol Psych #347 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=314826&postcount=347) [Nova {Persephone}]
'Actually, if you ask me...we wouldn't needn'psychology' for evolution...if you follow that...l...o...v...e...
'Actually, if you ask me...we wouldn't needn'psychology' for evolution...if you follow that...the 7 nth~~w~~a~~v~~e~~'

ADDF thread::Honestly, what-?-#28 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=335736&postcount=28) [Crazy {Lorelei}]
'Love,Reign o'er me.
Love,Reign o'er me.
Rain on me'

ADDF thread::Hermetic Philosophy #20 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=336227&postcount=20) [Tammy {P (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=329797&postcount=96)andora}]
'Often the need of others out weights the desire of the one.
. . . my mom called this Love'

... ... ... {...and they ain't wrong...} ... ... ...

sb.

ADDF thread::Evol Psych #14 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=292249&postcount=14)
'... we are evolving towards 'love'
A happy ending :-)'

............. Love, actually ...
............. L...o...v...e, actually ...
............. Love, actually ...
............. Love, actually ...

..........~because of a Universal truth~

ADDF thread::Hermetic Philosophy #2 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=336416&postcount=27)7 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=336416&postcount=27)
'::Evolution of wo/man::
-PHYSICAL LAYER-
{A} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation I - sexual reproduction
-MENTAL LAYER-
{B} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation II - meeting of minds 1:1 - pair bonding
-SPIRITUAL LAYER-
{C} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation III - brother/sisterhood of man - a viable society'

SB_UK
09-16-06, 05:07 AM
Love, actually. =o==o=

meadd823
09-17-06, 04:12 AM
Meadd i think i made a half decent post on the majority of 'misunderstandings'

I although i'm sure i type IT horribly! ;-)


Zach dude I ain’t fussing at you, please don’t take my post as fussing and I commenting according to my own perspectives.

Hey if no one had any questions or discussions or even disagreement we would all have looked at it and said cool yep that is right and moved on. Funny things about threads in all the interesting one there is always at least one person who doesn’t quiet agree. . . . . .or questions the perspective of a portion.


Dark is the absence of light, cold the absence of heat, eternity the absence of time, silence the absence of diversity in perspective. With out diversity there would be no thread. . . . . . .there would be nothing to talk about.

Eco system man!


SB you probably be right. I could simply be see / sayin the same things just differently. Instead of mastering the mind I think the mind masters the brain. . . .but you know me . . . . .I am always going sdrawkcab . . . . . .cixelsyd gniht nam!

SB_UK
09-17-06, 05:57 AM
... the mind masters the brain ...For sure - animals can be hungry, angry, scared, happy --- only we though can have our appetite suppressed, anger induced, fear elicited and happiness engendered by thoughts ... in a sense then one might agree with Nova's observation that 'we create our own rrreality.'

Pushing beyond our individual bubbles though - we're free floating in an environment from which we arose.

Can we glimpse the rules from which we arose -RRReality- bearing in mind that the mind arose from a path which has these Universal rules at its foundation.

... Stabile on this subject ... {paraphrased} ... 'discovering anything about objective reality relies on subtle inference' ... {sorry! can't locate the post} ...

sb.

Zach326
09-17-06, 03:06 PM
Zach dude I ain’t fussing at you, please don’t take my post as fussing and I commenting according to my own perspectives.

Hey if no one had any questions or discussions or even disagreement we would all have looked at it and said cool yep that is right and moved on. Funny things about threads in all the interesting one there is always at least one person who doesn’t quiet agree. . . . . .or questions the perspective of a portion.


Dark is the absence of light, cold the absence of heat, eternity the absence of time, silence the absence of diversity in perspective. With out diversity there would be no thread. . . . . . .there would be nothing to talk about.

Eco system man!


My post was not intended to address 'difference in opinion'.

I don't 'disagree' with anything you just said. ;)

I was addressing 'misunderstanding'

it's all been taking out of context.

...

..

.


// Post 25 was 'not' in response to post 24.

It's my fault Meadd I got my threads mixed up and was responding to something you said on a 'different' thread!

SB_UK
01-11-07, 02:18 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion

The Kybalion: Hermetic Philosophy is a book that was authored by three individuals calling themselves The Three Initiates. The content of this book, according to the authors, is believed to be the essence of the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus

Hermes Trismegistus might also be explained in Euhemerist fashion as a man who was the son of the god, and in the Kabbalistic tradition that was inherited by the Renaissance, it could be imagined that such a personage had been contemporary with Moses.

->-

p=374630 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=374630&postcount=722)

Nova
01-12-07, 03:42 PM
Hey Zach,

Hermes/Mercury loved metaphors. (0:

SB_UK
01-12-07, 04:07 PM
Thread:Hermetic philosophy and the Kybalion

Why is this so hard?

Hey Zach, Hermes/Mercury loved metaphors. (0:
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=374882&postcount=88

Quantum Consciousness Adam McLean
The hermetic tradition has long been concerned with the relationship between the inner world of our consciousness and the outer world of nature, between the microcosm and the macrocosm, the below and the above, the material and the spiritual, the centric and the peripheral.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euhemerus
Euhemerus (working late fourth century BCE) was a Greek mythographer ...

He is chiefly known for a rationalizing method of interpretation, known as Euhemerism, that treats mythological accounts as a reflection of actual historical events shaped by retelling and traditional mores.

metaphors metaphors metaphors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kybalion

The Kybalion: Hermetic Philosophy is a book that was authored by three {wise men} individuals calling themselves The Three Initiates. The content of this book, according to the authors, is believed to be the essence of the teachings of Hermes Trismegistus.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermes_Trismegistus

Hermes Trismegistus might also be explained in Euhemerist fashion as a man who was the son of the god, and in the Kabbalistic tradition that was inherited by the Renaissance, it could be imagined that such a personage had been contemporary with Moses.

omg!

it's a euphemism
... metaphor
... fictional
... a story!!!

SB_UK
01-12-07, 04:21 PM
omg!

it's a euphemism
... metaphor
... fictional
... a story!!!

SB_UK
01-12-07, 04:41 PM
omg!

it's a euphemism
... metaphor
... fictional
... a story!!! it's a euphemism
... metaphor
... fictional
... a story!!!

SB_UK
01-12-07, 04:43 PM
it's a euphemism
... metaphor
... fictional
... a story!!! it's a euphemism
... metaphor
... fictional
... a story!!!

Zach326
01-13-07, 01:52 PM
Good find SB



Trismegistus :rolleyes:

Nova
01-13-07, 02:33 PM
Still too literal. (0;

By 'metaphors', I wasn't implying only euphemisms, but they can be included.
Euphemisms are one 'story', traded for another- even if the 'stories' aren't related.

i.e. on another thread on here- in reference to people substituting the word 'witch' for the word '*itch'.
Neither 'word' is related to the other, as far as 'nouns' go- but some people still identify both as having the same 'meaning'-dealing with human 'moods'.
(which I fail to grasp- as neither word, has anything to do with 'human' tempermant/mood, even, if you truly think about it- and I *now* will quit referring to any humans as a *itch, or say that someone is *itching- since it absolutely does not make any sense, whatsoever-and I'm laughing so hard right now, thinking about this) :D


What I *meant* is metaphors are symbolic.
Symbols.
Intuitive (you can't 'shy away' from this word, because symbols are interpreted through intuition)

Not literal 'words' of written/spoken languages.

Symbolic.
Metaphorical.
Underlying meaning.

SB_UK
01-13-07, 03:06 PM
thought
abstraction
creativity
connections
*linking*

leap of logic
leap of faith
winged messenger
*leap*

{{{quantum leap}}}

. {->-} .

quantum tunneling.

... the funny thing is - is that I have no recollection of knowing anything whatsoever about quantum tunneling.

ho well!

... can I trade this mind in for another slightly more predictable model?

maybe a Buick.

:-)


geeze - what's a Buick?


... the funny thing is - is that I have no recollection of knowing anything whatsoever about a Buick.

ho well!

... can I trade this mind in for another slightly more predictable model?

{{{.}}}

oh boy!

SB_UK
01-13-07, 03:18 PM
... still can't break the n > 1 abstraction layers away - quantum tunneling representing the transition between 'real' and 'complex' domains (down or up there).

... imagining the real/complex transition > 1 abstraction layer away is kinda' tough.

... we're moving kinda' factorially down into highly abstract abstract thought territory.

Nova
01-13-07, 03:23 PM
Haha !

Deja vecu. (0:

Et tu, cher ?

SB_UK
01-13-07, 03:27 PM
quantum physics -> abstraction layer n
relativistic physics -> abstraction layer n+1

-
Newtonian physics -> abstraction layer n+2
chemistry
-

geology
biology
psychology
sociology

SB_UK
01-13-07, 03:56 PM
...we complete evolution from the very very very very start to the point at which it ends


... intuitively appealing - the spermatozoan and egg cells are clearly rooted within the land of microorganisms - haploid genomes - the particular flagellar motor of the spermatozoan - even the nomenclature screams 'protozoan.'

... core idea - that evolution of mind will represent a kinda' viral growth of the 'best' neural colonies - into all sections of the brain - other than those which are essential for autonomous function.

... core idea - that locked away inside the mind - are memories of previous behaviours or reflexes from all - each and every one of these previous states ...

... and as our power to model RRReality within rrreality improves - more explanatory logical models - so we will impact - retake control of these experiential spaces.

... the mind will attempt (evolutionary psychology thread) - to express these ideas - images - words ->- ideas will be painted reflecting an interpretation placed upon previous evolutionary experiential spaces.

Even though mind (in its current state - did not exist - in many of these previous states)
- more interesting - the idea of an experiential space which exists prior to abstraction layer biology.

For some bizarre reason - I appear to be raising the question of whether - we can actually remember *everything* from the very very very very *start* - and that those recollections flood in - as the best RRReality encoding models take ahold ->- with the memory of the very initial event ->- (returning home) - actually reflecting - our return home - otherwise stated - that the memory of this event - entails that we understand our context.

geeze - what the rabidmoomintrolls am I talking about?

no ... really???

SB_UK
01-13-07, 04:05 PM
ok ...

... so - the key to this idea would be to pull out recurrent themes generated by mind ...

recurrent themes like 'flood' (Sumerian,Hebrew) ->- which occurred thousands of years ago for the first time ... and then to gently walk through recurrent themes which recur in geographically dispersed populations.
It is likely that the pattern will lead us to some stage in our evolution down the layers of abstraction.

I have posted memories of phosphorescence, ATP and moonlight.
Is this capture of the experiential space representing the emergent event which lead to the serendipitous pattern which we have taken
chemistry ->- biology

... at this point I really need to ask?

... where is all of this coming from?

geeze - I wanna' scream BS BS BS BS BS SB ...

... but that'd be silly.

And this is all correct, isn't it?

:-)

or maybe

... ... ... not

Nova
01-13-07, 04:11 PM
In the words of Stabile...

BINGO !!!




ok ...

... so - the key to this idea would be to pull out recurrent themes ...

recurrent themes ->- which occurred XXXX ago for the first time ... and then to gently walk through recurrent themes which recur.

It is likely that the pattern will lead to some stage in evolution up the layers of abstraction.

I have posted memories of phosphorescence, ATP and moonlight.
Is this capture of the experiential space representing the emergent event which lead to the serendipitous pattern which I have taken


... at this point I really need to ask?

... where is all of this coming from?

SB_UK
01-13-07, 04:15 PM
- OK -
- I understand -

I really understand.
probably for the first time *ever*

I really do understand.

:-)

om !!!

Nova
01-13-07, 04:19 PM
(0:

oy, is correct.

SB_UK
01-13-07, 04:31 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Om

om my G

qinkin
01-13-07, 04:41 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittgenstein

He's got like so much... greatness around him. While growing up, I mean. Meaning his family and school mates.

The world consists of independent atomic facts — existing states of affairs — out of which larger facts are built. Language consists of atomic, and then larger-scale propositions that correspond to these facts by sharing the same "logical form". Thought, expressed in language, "pictures" these facts. We can analyse our thoughts and sentences to express ("express" as in show, not say) their true logical form. Those we cannot so analyse cannot be meaningfully discussed. Philosophy consists of no more than this form of analysis: "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen" ("Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent"). Watts seems, according to his message board, that he draws a lot from this philosopher. Though, I dunno.

He seems, a bit dated (stagnation in the mind) in that sense. I jes' don't like those w/o eastern backgrounds w/western backgrounds, you know?

Nova
01-13-07, 04:44 PM
Cool !!


namaste ! (0:

SB_UK
01-13-07, 04:51 PM
PS
parp!
:o

SB_UK
01-13-07, 05:00 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wittgenstein->- hey qk ->-

ADDF p=354270
(http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=354270&postcount=90)
...does this help any?

Nova
01-13-07, 05:08 PM
Parp...linkin..synchronicity...
Everything happens for the 'reason'...

A rose by any other name.. (0:


coincident

co (noun):
together, with, joint

incident (noun):
a single distinct event

SB_UK
01-13-07, 05:29 PM
Om Saraswatinow makes sense.

Nova
01-13-07, 05:49 PM
(0:

Persephone/Proserpina
Bride/Brigit
Selene/Luna
Zeus/Jupiter
Hades/Pluto
Poseidon/Neptune

Nova
01-13-07, 07:04 PM
Chakras.

Hermes loved metaphors. (0:





The chapter on 'Vibration' comes to mind.

"No sound is heard from the revolving object, the rate of motion being so high that the human ear cannot register the vibrations. Then comes the perception of rising degrees of Heat. Then after quite a time the eye catches a glimpse of the object becoming a dull dark reddish color. As the rate increases, the red becomes brighter. Then as the speed is increased, the red melts into an orange. Then the orange melts into a yellow. Then follow, successively, the shades of green, blue, indigo, and finally violet, as the rate of speed increases. Then the violet shades away, and all color {{disappears}}, the human eye not being able to register them. But there are invisible rays emanating from the revolving object, the rays that are used in photographing, and other subtle rays of light.

SB_UK
01-14-07, 01:34 AM
->- hermetically sealed arguments ->-

let me {{{oooututut}}}

~boing~

~~boink - boink - boink~~

~~~'ugh!'~~~

*bell jars!!!*

...evolution of Ants?
There evolution toward Ant-hood, the collective mind?
I understand E.O. Wilson did some research in this direction (as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Osborne_Wilson )
... heya z ...

{dropping this here because of its link into Hermetic via the quote in quantum consciousness ... )

... collective mind misinterpreted through borg ->- misinterpreted through core tenet of losing individuality ->- interpreted correctly through abstraction layer (social) - evolution - from perspective of current man 'good' ->- explained more below ... ... ... noting not much point in having a single big mind and a buncha' dependent drones {borg} ->- gotta be a bit more gaia ->- a loadmore iced cooly ->- we need a large IC increase ->- idea of refreshing wind - a merger in which individuality is retained ->- noting context man(through the eyes of man)->- and evolution(through the eyes of the Universal law of E)->- expressed simultaneously.

we've 'global' consciousness and conscious,
'social' conscious
... and Tammy has linked us into emergence.

I remember Tammy explaining the wikiP site and Stabile commending its write-up - particularly so since it had recently changed from a very much poorer account previously.
...from memory ->- emergence on wiki has a picture of ants as its lead picture.
...the reason why emergence is important I guess is because the 3 4 13 d pattern which I've mentioned repeats.
- all of those emergent events outside of context 'man' are important to the idea of Uni law of E ->- because they're the n=1,2,3 which lead to our own certainty in its truth (p<1/oc)

... it's the reason for the logical highly structured structures involving emergence.
I think that the people who want to postulate big poppa G because of this sweet pattern - yes - an intelligent pattern ... recursive fantastic ... sitting just outside of grasp due to the rrr-RRR dichotemy ... just see the pattern underneath - and they gave it to that benign dyslexic doG - instead of ->- to physics - flipside of chaos theory within a metalevel encrusted web of abstraction layers ...
... ... metamodel web - got stuck.
... ... ... help!!!

... here's the pattern - think ring ->-
ring ->- movement in 3 dimensions.
ring + 1 link to another link
->- movement in 4 dimensions ie the connection adds the other dimension of movement - but the other ring is still essentially working an action reaction cycle to the first ring eg
o-o
o down
other o up

... with the extra dimension coming from the freedom of motion of -
... ... ... finally ... comes the addition of another link
then it all kicks off
->-
o-o-o
... because we have 13 dimensions of independent motion now
... ... kinda' 3 each for each ring
o 3
o- 4
o-o 4
o-o-o

.o <-> .o <-> .o
... 4,4,4 +1 ->- 13 - i think that emergence is defined by the idea of greater than the sum of the parts - because the combination of unitary components of low dimensionality ->- combine to produce a structure of higher dimensionality
... ... so imagine a slinky now - and see how many bizarre freaky oscillations one can get out of the poor slinky
... ... ... this is the idea of multidimensionality
... kinda planes of orthogonal independent motion
... then to bring this all back down - just to saw that multid(ality) is just geometrically interpreted ->- and that the mathematical thang for geometry->-algebra is understood now for what it is ...
... ... ... mathefreaks are trying to reconcile rrreality under equations 'cept they haven't adopted an observer correction

... ... under a theory of multi repeating abstraction layers in our RRReal universe - and our eyes on an intermediate level ->- explanatory mathematical formulations can't be made unless we 'pull back the curtain'
... ... so imagine RRReality as a bunch of cardboard rectangles
... ... divide them into say 10 lots - and then in 1-10 - >-bend the rectangle into a cylinder
... then in 2-10 ->- bend the cylinder into another cylinder by folding it over.
... ... in 3-10 ->- bend the cylinder over again
... ... continue till 10 is a kinda' multi cylinder complex thingummy jig
... ... then kinda' remember that the front of the carboard at the start was black - and the inside was white
... ... ... then squidge all of these shapes into one big squelch and turn shape eg n=4 (of the 10 above) into the eyes of the observer who has to make sense of this great big Pollock :-) of a Jackson squelch

->- and there it is
->- so - the deal - the hardest layer of scientific thought pushing us through into the future - will feature this form of geometrically sweet paradigm at its base.

... ... ... man! - how did I get here from there - geeze - ever feel like a white rabbit in a quantum tunnel.
... ... HF Glenda dude - time to go sweetie

{{{.}}}

oh boy!

Pokemon hell - Linux penguin has grown fangs and is flying at us - Glenda - pin back your ears - and 'fly like a wabbit' ... protect my fragile rrreality from the fanged one.

poke* him on

:-)

* Tammy - not that sort of poke*.
* Tammy! stop sniggering
* Tammy - rabbits and penguins don't do that

{{{.}}}

oh boy!

or do they?
... eeiry Twilight Zone music pervades

{{{.}}}

oh boy!

->-/ {{{.}}} /->-

no way
do they
do they?
no! way!!!
they do ... do they?

they do???

Ahhh!!!
they do

:{{{.}}}-)

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:04 AM
chakras
roygbiv

->- energy content of wave E increases with decreasing /\

->- colours represent an ascent of the EM spectrum

->- serendipitous pattern defined by Universal constants
Planck
Speed of light

radio waves ->- ->- light waves
emergence of waves of ever higher energy content

radio waves ->- EM spectrum ->-

radio
infra-red
visible
ultraviolet
gamma..\
Xray...../

chakras mimic the EM spectrum

7 ->- RIVUGX

R
1
I
2
V
3
U
4
G
5
X
6 ->- 2 x 3 ->- evolution in 3,4,13 patterns towards increasing IC ->- exactly as observed in the EM spectrum ...

... also evolution generating the exact same structure after each cycle of 3,4,13

->- exactly as observed within the EM spectrum

i.e.

RIVUGX ->- are all waves which wave

:-)

evolution of man - as with waves towards increased information content within unit space.

Speed of light as a universal constant defined by layer of abstraction of the observed corrected for observer.

:-)

or maybe

...not

so totally NOT

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:05 AM
wave ->- particle

emergence

~an emergent property~

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:07 AM
... we need to correct for abstraction layer of phenomenon and abstraction layer of observer.

... ... this is the problem.

parp!:o

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:14 AM
Chakras.
Hermes loved metaphors.... no light without dark.

life as an evolutionary resonance of environmental context ->-our->- equi-temporal light-dark ... cycles

... noting that there's variability in the system
... shift to a different section of the EM ->- and we can maybe do it all again

->- the Universal constants are really that important defining a very specific pattern through Universal context ->- leading to generation of life.

Life as an entirely not as mysterious as we have been lead to believe consequence of the Universal pattern of Evolution.

... noting that mind falls under this pattern.

lovely jubbly.

qinkin
01-14-07, 12:13 PM
u 2 are morons! that's more than

on meds, yes. idiot, or not?? conundrum
whatever

talk to me, bout this.
guided by that unseen or ego.

let it slide? me=consecrated, but not devout

right there, but I am not (where we are is a state of mind)

n/m

i am too!

say my band is too Red Hot's ???!!!! go Disturbed!

no mind, no mind

let it slide

n/m don't do it, go away

aftrerall i'm no mind
you ever livea?

not me, utter nnosense. it's the point, silly bosi.. don't have to, can't interfere @ everylevel, must let it be men, whaomen

forgetting why I started . . . begin!

accuracy, ADD on chaos, sense into non- no into yes

i dpenend , i liveonchaos also organization/work
'
just to get high on, we rely on/ hey oh, all i nedd is I, to look inside. more I see, i let it go whoawwww ohhh, no where to go.

jammin' let's go. uh oh, *warning lol, listen to warning, hm;m.... no good (?) http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSaZyNFpD8s

do you form in wet sand? are you groovin on that level???????????????????????????????????????, *&^% ! ! !!! !!! !!1!!!!!!!!!!! !!! ! 1 1


organization (alan) has chaos @ foundation, vice versa mohter fickerers!

Nova
01-14-07, 12:30 PM
My reply, is still in relation to the 'Vibration' principle, brought up earlier, in this thread.


Imagine A and B are pondering this 'question', as they both sit beside one another, in front of a glowing fire, in a fireplace.


A: I can't figure this out...

B: What's that ?

A: I just can't figure out why we are not getting a good tan right now.

B: That would be nice. We could use the fireplace, in the summertime.

A: Theory says, radiation from the fireplace, should be as rich, and high-frequency ultraviolet as sunlight is.
But what makes sunlight, and not fireplace light rich in high frequencies ?
Why aren't we tanning in an ultraviolet 'bath', now ?

B: You're going to have to explain..
What is frequency ?
What is ultraviolet ?

A: Frequency is the number of cycles per second.
It is the measure of how fast a wave wiggles.
For light, that means color.

White light is made up of light of various frequencies, or colors.
Red light is a low-frequency light.
Violet is high-frequency light.
If the freqency is even higher, invisible 'black' light, is called ultraviolet.

B: So..light from both...burning wood, and the sun..should give out plenty of ultraviolet.
The sun follows this theory..but burning wood does not.
Maybe there is something 'special' about burning wood...

A: It's gets even worse !
All light sources, not just the sun, or burning wood, give off abundant amounts of ultraviolet.

B: Ahh...so the 'inflation/giving off' of ultraviolet, is present everywhere, all the time...
But isn't all 'inflation' followed by 'recession' ?
(B starts humming the song 'What goes up, must come down)

A: But how ????











energy content of wave E increases with decreasing /\

->- colours represent an ascent of the EM spectrum

->- serendipitous pattern defined by Universal constants
Planck
Speed of light

radio waves ->- ->- light waves
emergence of waves of ever higher energy content

radio waves ->- EM spectrum ->-

radio
infra-red
visible
ultraviolet
gamma..\
Xray...../

chakras mimic the EM spectrum

7 ->- RIVUGX

R
1
I
2
V
3
U
4
G
5
X
6 ->- 2 x 3 ->- evolution in 3,4,13 patterns towards increasing IC ->- exactly as observed in the EM spectrum ...

Speed of light as a universal constant defined by layer of abstraction of the observed corrected for observer.

Nova
01-14-07, 12:36 PM
Qinkin,

You are adorable.

No one is 'threatening', here.


Everyone has to understand, at their own pace, silly. (0:

You know that.

And you said on another thread, that imposing only one view, is a 'zealot' form of bullying.

It's all the same, in the end.

Just be patient, and know that individuals have to come to 'understand', in a way, that is best for them..

But it all results to mind-full-ness and connectivity.

Know that in your heart.

Share your knowledge, wisdom, and understanding..and allow others to become wise in their own way, at their own pace.

Just as you are doing, as you continously 'grow'.

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:17 PM
A. boo boo

B. bee doo

->- www.boobydoo.co.uk (http://www.boobydoo.co.uk)

... now that's *funny* ... :-)

... and forgive me Nove - for I am about to sin.
... geeze - can't help it.

ho well!!!

... was made that way ...
... ps ...

http://www.boobydoo.co.uk/images/sj6021.jpg


A. Hot in here!

http://www.boobydoo.co.uk/images/sj6521.jpg

B. ooo!

A. and B. together ... hai caramba! ... we're temperature sensitive.

Cool!

erm... ... ...

... noting that the above is SB at his most intellectual - combining digital witchcraft with the female form ...

... the representation or study is entitled 'global warming'

... and if you're *not* laughing now.

You are not human!

~ps~
it is technically more correct to define the ternary Trinity as the

...mother, daughter and the holey ghost ...

{http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=375118&postcount=11
->- mother,daughter and the holy ghost}

... think Marg, Lisa and Homer ...

and you're there.

And if you're not laughing now.

Oi vey!!!

ADDF - you've been a tough audience

... the slow handclap ...

Thank you and ... ... ...

Yay!

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:36 PM
parpy pants.

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:37 PM
:o
... ...

SB_UK
01-14-07, 02:49 PM
bright out :-)

Zach326
01-14-07, 03:15 PM
qinkin you should meet my roommate.

You remind me of him... :rolleyes:

Nova
01-14-07, 04:14 PM
I'm only laughing, because this really isn't an 'insult'...

Considering how you used the word 'parp', earlier.

Nova
01-14-07, 04:24 PM
Quinkin...

What or who are you 'frustrated/angry' with ?

'Watts' ?

SB ?

Me ?

'Misrepresentation' of Eastern 'philosophy', as *you* have come to understand/resonate/comprehend/know ?


All of the above ? :)


Why are you frustrated/angry ?

Zach326
01-14-07, 04:47 PM
He isn't mad at us.

What would anger solve anyway?

I have been mad at the world for as long as I can remember and it has never helped me in any given situation.

"There is an old Chinese proverb: If the wrong man uses the right means, the right means works in the wrong way. Let us assume that are technological knowledge is the right means, what kind of people are going to use this knowledge? Are they going to be people who hate nature and feel alienated from it or people who love the physical world and feel that the physical world is there own personal body? But you see this whole attitude of using technology as a method of fighting the world will only succeed in destroying the world."

-Alan Watts spiritual high. (as in link provided by qinkin.)

qinkin
01-14-07, 04:53 PM
No one!! I told someone yesterday in the lab, I don't get angry at people. Just my steering wheel.

My hyperness is best, most usefully vented by anger (at least unmedicated)

my post was not angry, foo' i aint no fighter niehter

did I say mother flippa??? lol, that's just me. i aint no sailor though


I cried on Watts shoulder today, no I'm not mad i could be doubting lack of doubt is motivating! this week's podcast, brought me back it seems

SB, what's your deal, you ****** hah?ahaha go to HHHH !

And you said on another thread, that imposing only one view, is a 'zealot' form of bullying. yes, as is other people, nay sayer!

LOL

? thread is this???

now that's *funny* ... :-)

... and forgive me Nove - for I am about to sin.
... geeze - can't help it.

ho well!!!

... was made that way ...
... ps ...

http://www.boobydoo.co.uk/images/sj6021.jpg


A. Hot in here!

http://www.boobydoo.co.uk/images/sj6521.jpg

B. ooo!

A. and B. together ... hai caramba! ... we're temperature sensitive.

Cool!

erm... ... ...

... noting that the above is SB at his most intellectual - combining digital witchcraft with the female form ...

... the representation or study is entitled 'global warming'

... and if you're *not* laughing now.

You are not human!

~ps~
it is technically more correct to define the ternary Trinity as the

...mother, daughter and the holey ghost ...

{http://www.addforums.com/forums/sho...18&postcount=11 (http://showpost.php?p=375118&postcount=11)
->- mother,daughter and the holy ghost}

... think Marg, Lisa and Homer ...

and you're there.

And if you're not laughing now.

Oi vey!!!

ADDF - you've been a tough audience

... the slow handclap ... bahahaha, was that b4 & after images? lol, i prefer Red, usually.. your coworkers? lol




I wish I would, so much I wish.


i aint serious, u must play, as I ahve played w/you/ so that w/me. or **** me. no matta' walkin' like saurkraut pretty, take, break tears gonna make a rep, make it
Nova
"i know you can stradle the atmosphere"
we can make it outta here

SB_UK
01-14-07, 05:03 PM
...i prefer Red...... so Morpheus says to Bosipheus - 'look Bozo - I don't want to know the colour of your lucky underpants - just pick a pill ... '

;):p

:-)

:(:( + E = :p:p

SB_UK
01-14-07, 05:09 PM
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:-)

SB_UK
01-14-07, 05:33 PM
A: But how ????

Tammy explained the mechanism on General ADD ... blue-yellow cones of the eye.

Aye!!!

you know what ...

... Tammy is remarkable.

the only member of ADDF who can maintain stability by navigating a concrete route through the shifting sands of words.

So much of what we discuss is subject to personal interpretation - the key is to adopt a mechanism of communication which is unambiguous.

so rrr1 == rrr2

... or otherwise expressed - that others understand the nuanced sense of the words used by the orator in communication.

... that's a real skill, which, I believe predicates on a complete systems view of the domain below.

That'd be the metalevel above.


:-)

like I said

man - she's good.

Nova
01-14-07, 06:44 PM
Ha !

If we all didn't enjoy interactin' with one anohter, we'd use the 'ignore' option.

No 'flames' here.

Especially in the color 'red'. (0:


And I didn't forget how to dance/play, funny, silly Quinkin. (0: