There was an article in the paper last week, after Pluto got demoted, written about Owen Gingerich - an astronomer that led the IAU panel on how to define a planet. [also senior astronomer with the Smithsonian Astrophysics Observatory]
The title of the article was something like "Astronomer feels 'intellegent design' isn't creator's plan."
He wrote a book titled "God's Universe". This book comes right after Collins' book, "The Language of God." [Francis Collins = Director of Human Genome Project]
Both believe God created the universe and neither advocates the 'intellegent design' theory.

{Ok - back on topic, please.}
Gingerich's book is his pondering/wondering about scientific specifics that have perplexed him.
And then they give some examples of these specifics.
One stood out in particular to me...

The number of grains of sand on all of Earth's beaches is vastly exceeded by the number of stars in the universe.
But the total of stars is vastly exceeded by the unimaginable connections within any human brain.
(100 billion neurons, each linked with 10,000 other neurons)
100 billion neurons, each linked with 10,000 other neurons

And what came to mind was the plexus connections between veins and arteries:

http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/biobk/diagcirc.gif

And then fractals and so on, again.


100 billion neurons, each linked with 10,000 other neurons


Bundles and redundant systems in reference to neuronal brain linkages.
We design systems with redundancy and backups, etc.
Our system designs mimic what actually exists physically. Intentionally or conciously or not.
We can't help but do this because it is the fabric of our existence.

Our organizational systems = society and corporations and labor unions, etc and
biological systems = ants and fish, etc mimic or behave just like our neural systems.

Brain system functions are more sophisticated and complex than our circulatory system.
Blood has mechcanisms=organisms that deliver food and oxygen to cells and remove carbon dioxide and metabolic waste.
What is the analogous garbage collector in our neural systems???
[ "LSD cleans the cobwebs out" ] Are both a function of 5-HTP?


Envision the ADDer brain as having less redundancy.
Where redundancy is driven by neurochemical failures.
NT's having neural systems that are able to kick in a redundant path to execute the required work.

The redundancies are facilitated by feedback mechanisms.
ADDer's feedback mechanisms also fail. [clogged by garbage?]


So perhaps the previous gobbly-gook describes the ADDer on a bad day.
What happens on a good day?
And what is happening in the neural system if the redundancy system is minimal => not as redundant as NT???


Is this what give us the greater range into the BIG picture? Less redundancy so resources can attend to more detail.

Does this give us a higher capacity to access more memory?


Am I asking obvious, sophmoric questions on the order of 'wow we have lungs so that must mean we breath?'


[note: I have blank lines inserted between every few sentenses and they aren't showing up in the preview?]

Envision the ADDer brain as having less redundancy.
Where redundancy is driven by neurochemical failures.
NT's having neural systems that are able to kick in a redundant path to execute the required work.

The redundancies are facilitated by feedback mechanisms.
ADDer's feedback mechanisms also fail. [clogged by garbage?]


So perhaps the previous gobbly-gook describes the ADDer on a bad day.
What happens on a good day?
And what is happening in the neural system if the redundancy system is minimal => not as redundant as NT???


Is this what give us the greater range into the BIG picture? Less redundancy so resources can attend to more detail.


It's an interesting thought... Redundant as in multiple pathways to the same thing? I have multiple pathways, no question about it, but not necessarily to the same thing, but perhaps some transitive path. I am able to easily fill in missing memories because of this, as all information is connected and there are only so many possibilities when a memory is missing... [ If the article is in the same realm as my thoughts, that is... ]. If memories form new physical connections, would multiple connections to the same thing mean that something was simply learned better, and that ADDers tend to spend less time "burning" memories in?

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/brain-neuron-types.gif


Neurones are making their own private ascent towards a loss of self and incorporation into society.
With incorporation into society - so does {information content, energy increase} {Universal pattern of evolution {again {yawn{ ...:-)... }}}}
... ... ... funny how Norman Neurone is losing weight - his cell body is disappearing ... ... ...
I'm guessing that mind fell out of an evolutionary adaptation of Inter-neurone into a form kinda' akin to the pyramidal cell form {above} ... ... ...

SB.

cool!

ADDF thread::Hermetic Philosophy #27 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32374)
-MENTAL LAYER-
{B} 1'''] 3''' 4''' 13'''(1''') ->- love version/relation II - meeting of minds 1:1 - pair bonding

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1' ->- stand-alone 'pyramidal cell'

3' ->- 'pyramidal cell' connections using the 3 vertices of a triangle
Mind of man version I
Spoken language - The first thought - The first picture - {ca.}-35k years ago

4' ->- 'pyramidal cell' connections using the 4 vertices of a pyramid
Mind of man version II
Written language - Increased abstraction, complexity - Concept of time {the fourth dimension} - {ca}-10k years ago

13' ->- pyramidal cell forms stand-alone units from 4 x 4'
Mind of man version III (ADD)
Increased abstraction - ho lordy! - increased abstraction ho! lor-dy-lordy!!!
{ca.}- 15 minutes ago ... :-) ...


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SB.
... :-) ...

virus ->- unipolar ->- bipolar ->- multipolar ->- pyramidal
virus ->- unipolar ->- bipolar ->- multipolar ->- pyramidal
virus ->- unipolar ->- bipolar ->- multipolar ->- pyramidal
virus ->- unipolar ->- bipolar ->- multipolar ->- pyramidal
virus ->- unipolar ->- bipolar ->- multipolar ->- pyramidal cortical neurone

ADDers tend to spend less time "burning" memories in?


I rarely try to remember stuff but I often do remember stuff without trying. Now if we don’t Burn memories in so to speak this would account for why we have trouble with that thing called working memory (or location of key possessed five minutes ago) This would effect unimportant working or brief memories (well until we needed to drive the car again) but not necessarily the long term memory (just spelling it) If indeed we spend less time burning it in redundantly but instead connect it to every thing else that is already part of memory. Each memory would connect to other memories This would explain the momentary misplacing of memories the feeling that we know we know just not sure where we put the know-ya know!


This would tie into what I just read about this executive function thing that the part of the ADD brain some are claiming is dysfunctional in ADD isn’t necessarily the seat of know just knowing where you put the knowledge. . . . .

“The Executive Brain”
Elkhonon Goldberg
Page 218

The type of control provided by the frontal lobes is probably weak , superimposed on a high degree of autonomy of other brain structures At the same time the frontal lobes control is global coordinating and constraining the activities of a vast array neural structures at any given time and over time. The frontal lobes do not have specific knowledge or expertise of all the necessary challenges facing the organism. What they have however is the ability to “find” the areas of the brain in possession of this knowledge and expertise for any specific challenge, and to string them together in complex configurations according to need.
(End Quote)

Kind of like a search engine. Maybe our search engine technology hasn’t caught up with or memory storage system so to speak.

Maybe our search engine technology hasn’t caught up with or memory storage system so to speak.*~-yes-~*

ADDF Thread::Control,Choice #10 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=236090&highlight=strawberry#post236090) [Nov 05]

Let me take you down,
Concentric Hyperspaces and Disk Allocation,
for Fast Parallel Range Searching,
cause I'm going to strawberry fields,
Abstract Data partitioning and declustering
have been extensively used in the past
to parallelize I/O for range queries.
Nothing is real,
Several index structures are proposed for
efficient range, partial match, and
similarity searching traditional databases.
and nothing to get hung about,
If the data space is divided into two parts,
in each dimension, referred to as balanced
binary partitioning -- 13 dimensions, range
query with sides of length 0.5, volume
10\Gamma 4 of the whole data space,
Strawberry fields for ever................
Decreasing the length of the sides of range
query will result in low selectivities.

This problem becomes more acute in higher dimensions.

StrawBerry fields for ever................


StrawBerry fields for ever................

This seems to be a personal web site...but this information is great!

I wonder if the author considers himself one or some of the flavors of ADD.

Lots to say, but I only have time to 'save' this piece here.



http://www.benbest.com/science/anatmind/anatmd1.html red highlight is mine



A one-year old human has about 100 billion (10<SUP>11</SUP>) neurons. No new neurons will be formed after that age, but neurons will be lost at a rate of roughly 200,000 per day (a net loss of 2 to 5% by age 50). Maximum brain weight is achieved at about age 21. A typical brain neuron will have connections with at least 1,000 other neurons. Aside from neurons, the other important brain cells are the glia (or neuroglia = "nerve glue", literally), which are more numerous than neurons (a human brain may contain a trillion glial cells). The four types of brain glia cells are: (1) astrocytes, (2) oligodendrocytes, (3) microglia, and (4) ependymal cells. Astrocytes are star-shaped cells which are the predominant neuroglia of the grey matter -- their long processes occupying most of the interneuronal spaces. Astrocytes mediate metabolic exchange between neurons & blood, provide structural support, soak-up excess neurotransmitter and help repair neurons damaged by injury or disease. Oligodendrocytes, which have a small number of processes (Greek: oligo=few, dendron=tree), are the predominant neuroglia of the white matter -- and mainly provide neurons with a protective sheath (myelin). Microglia are small cells (few in number) which provide immunologic/phagocytic defense for the brain. When brain tissue is damaged by injury or disease, microglia transform into large amoeboid phagocytes that "eat" dead cells and brain debris. Ependymal cells are specialized epithelial cells lining the ventricles and spinal cord. Unlike epithelial cells, ependymal cells rest on processes derived from astrocytes, rather than on a basement membrane.






None of the cadavers in my anatomy/physiology lab 30 years ago, had brains - they went to the medical schools. Something to vent about: reading material that I find fascinating until I realize that I must have studied it a thousand times...

I need to read more from here, the web site.

www.benbest.com/science/anatmind/anatmd1.html (http://www.benbest.com/science/anatmind/anatmd1.html)

Yummy for your tummy; back into the red soon ... :-) ...
{briefly - though}
... :-) ...
Imagine* that* - 2 separate systems taking in 4) (1,3,4,13) cell types evolving alongside one another (noting that the 'number of 'processes' - 'connections' - between cells *also* increases in the neuronal supporting layer - they're called *processes* - *processes* process processes - (kv - I do believe that your logic and my physic - my logical domain and your physical realm - have been inadvertently connected with language

whoopsy - most of the post above is missing (#9).

Has anybody ever listed forgetting to press the 'submit' button as an ADD trait?

Ho well ... best not tell anyone - it's the one observation which could prove fatal for the on-line forum ... ... ...

... :-) ...
... ... ... the highlight though - taking c-Fos and c-Jun outta' kv's 'Bestest Ben in the whole wide world' link and pointing out v-Fos and v-Jun exist ... ... ...

c cellular
v viral viral viral viral

c-Fos appearance is a surrogate for detecting activated neurones.


SB.

... ... ... the nerve is the evolved virus