View Full Version : Rectal administration: serious question


barrtha
09-21-06, 02:33 PM
i suffer from acid reflux and it really impacts the effectiveness of my ADD meds. i used to disolve them under my tongue but i think it is bad for my teeth. has anyone had experience taking their medicine rectally? i read on a couple forums that you can do this with a straight pill ("plug it") or disolve it in a small amount of water and inject it in a needleless syringe.

has anyone tried this? does it work? are there any other risks involved? and please dont tell me i am an abuser because i have taken the same dosage for years and never done anything abusive like IV, crushing, inhaling, etc.

lars
09-21-06, 04:02 PM
I would suggest that you call a local pharmacy and ask one of the pharmacist on duty. They might know of another option that you have not considered yet. Good luck.

Rayzor
09-21-06, 06:16 PM
From what I know, plugging is mostly associated with recreational drug use. This supports my theory that it is likely comparable to snorting it or under the tongue (sublingually) due to the quite absorbant rectal membranes.

As a side note, taking your med sublingually is very if not completely similar to snorting the crushed pill. Both the nose and under the tongue have nice absorbant membranes, so they absorb the med directly into the bloodstream very soon bound for the brain like a freight train. Also, this will significantly shorten the duration of the med as it all enters very quickly, being used almost immediately and leaving the body as quickly as it came in (so no gradual loss of med effects (exception: rebounds heh)). Also, the effects should be significantly greater than when you swallow the pill, as a large amount of med "rush"es completely to their receptors.
Also, digestion is the safest way to take your med. Digestion removes any possible adulterants (more for street drugs i guess), and even considering IVing straight pill adderall would be a mistake as the binders etc enter the bloodstream. Snorting damages the septum (over time) and nasal membranes while sublingual results in strong acids that possibly become free in the saliva to cause cavities. Rinsing a few times with water when the med is mostly/all absorbed will greatly reduce the damage potential, but I guess any is bad over time.

Anyway, think about it and if you decide to just try it yourself know that it is likely to feel similar to nose/tongue methods. If not, it'll still be ok as it can only hit you more easily from there (if it is like swallowing the pill instead). I am now going to ice my wrists. :P

JustNeedHelp
09-21-06, 06:46 PM
From what I know, plugging is mostly associated with recreational drug use. This supports my theory that it is likely comparable to snorting it or under the tongue (sublingually) due to the quite absorbant rectal membranes.

As a side note, taking your med sublingually is very if not completely similar to snorting the crushed pill. Both the nose and under the tongue have nice absorbant membranes, so they absorb the med directly into the bloodstream very soon bound for the brain like a freight train. Also, this will significantly shorten the duration of the med as it all enters very quickly, being used almost immediately and leaving the body as quickly as it came in (so no gradual loss of med effects (exception: rebounds heh)). Also, the effects should be significantly greater than when you swallow the pill, as a large amount of med "rush"es completely to their receptors.
Also, digestion is the safest way to take your med. Digestion removes any possible adulterants (more for street drugs i guess), and even considering IVing straight pill adderall would be a mistake as the binders etc enter the bloodstream. Snorting damages the septum (over time) and nasal membranes while sublingual results in strong acids that possibly become free in the saliva to cause cavities. Rinsing a few times with water when the med is mostly/all absorbed will greatly reduce the damage potential, but I guess any is bad over time.

Anyway, think about it and if you decide to just try it yourself know that it is likely to feel similar to nose/tongue methods. If not, it'll still be ok as it can only hit you more easily from there (if it is like swallowing the pill instead). I am now going to ice my wrists. :Pthats pretty interesting thanks for sharing i might just try that under the toung thing for days when i have abunch to do yet need to sleep in a couple hours (it might shorten the duration sounds interesting) and also i agree call pharmacist and doc, i know that The Medicine Shoppe can make drugs for you whether they can make dextroamphetamine and under the dea's scrutiny i dunno but ask they might be able to make you an elixer or some sort of antacid - dextroamphetamine pill or maybe they can make something else they sound very like very inteligent people at what they do

D.B. Cooper
09-21-06, 07:45 PM
This would work and generally drugs are absorbed better rectally. I cant speak from personal experiance or anything but in drug cultures (especially with MDMA users) this is a semi-common practice.

FrazzleDazzle
09-21-06, 08:16 PM
Barrtha, I would think you might deal with your acid reflux. You don't want to have that for a long period of time untreated. IT can lead to esophageal problems, and increase the likelihood of cancer. There are meds that can help you with that. I would definitely suggest talking to your prescribing physician about what your problems and ideas are before messing with alternative methods of getting your med into you. Most meds that are prescribed p.o. (by mouth) are that way because of the poster that mentioned the digestive tract. All p.o. meds are developed with the digestion process in mind in the action of delivery. You go messing with the delivery, and you can really mess up big. Just please be very careful.

JustNeedHelp
09-22-06, 05:50 PM
yes i would have to agree try to get it under control but first try diet and exercise (i know oyur prolly mad reading us say get your acid reflux under control, and you prolly have tried but i do think you would be better off getting that under control plus you would have to "Dose" pretty low and really often if rectally administered

and would be taking the pill via under the toung be considered misuse if taken to help your ADD not to abuse? i really would like to see if that could work as there are many times i need to go to sleep soon yet have tons of work what if i only take half my dose (so i dont get too much in my system at once) (i dont think it would be abuse but misuse ok i can agree with that a little)

meadd823
09-22-06, 07:54 PM
Okay to be honest I only read the initial post and a few responses. I got to the post about rectal used being associated with drug abuse. . . . one word response WRONG! I am not saying that drug abuser do not do this what I am saying is there are other reason's why this method is used.

Hospices use this method when vomiting prevents oral administration from being an option and some medications do not come in injectable form or the pill form is all that is immediately available.

Based on my experience as a fellow member,

Disclaimer:not to be taken as professional medical advise.

What can be taken by mouth can be inserted via rectal cavity.


Just ask any teen in my house who thought they were going to refuse to swallow their ADD or bi-polar medication. They thought I was kidding until they found out that this can and some times is done in the medical profession. I would however double check with your doctor to ensure proper dosages amounts and intervals.

D.B. Cooper
09-22-06, 08:09 PM
and would be taking the pill via under the toung be considered misuse if taken to help your ADD not to abuse? i really would like to see if that could work as there are many times i need to go to sleep soon yet have tons of work what if i only take half my dose (so i dont get too much in my system at once) (i dont think it would be abuse but misuse ok i can agree with that a little)
Do whatever you want with IR pills (within reason). The media for some weird reason has been hyping the evils of snorting pills recently. Why in gods name would you want to stick all those binders up your nose? The small amount of initial drug you would get sure wouldnt amount to an "orgasmic rush" as one article said. People have weird concepts about how drugs are absorbed.

mamasparkleface
09-24-06, 12:03 AM
Okay to be honest I only read the initial post and a few responses. I got to the post about rectal used being associated with drug abuse. . . . one word response WRONG! I am not saying that drug abuser do not do this what I am saying is there are other reason's why this method is used.

Hospices use this method when vomiting prevents oral administration from being an option and some medications do not come in injectable form or the pill form is all that is immediately available.

Based on my experience as a fellow member,

Disclaimer:not to be taken as professional medical advise.

What can be taken by mouth can be inserted via rectal cavity.


Just ask any teen in my house who thought they were going to refuse to swallow their ADD or bi-polar medication. They thought I was kidding until they found out that this can and some times is done in the medical profession. I would however double check with your doctor to ensure proper dosages amounts and intervals.
Wow! They thought you were kidding. I am impressed.
Luckily so far my kiddo is not at against taking her medication.

This makes me wonder though, what you've said about any medication that can be taken orally can be taken rectally.

My 7mo old DD recently had an ear infection and we went through 5 different antibiotics before the infection finally started devolving. At one point we were given this liquid that smelled and tasted, quite literally like excrement. I think we attempted to give it to her once. Not again, after that we opted for a series of shots that had us at the pediatricians office 3 days in a row (this didn't work either!), but in light of having to give young children medicine that tastes bad it seems that it would be easier to give them medicine rectally? Or is it just not a known practice because of the aversion a lot of or most people might have to doing this? I would much rather have done that, than to force the various liquids on my infant......only the first one tasted good. And yes I tasted each and every one of them to know what the child was dealing with blech!

Interesting topic!

Laura

Tara
09-24-06, 04:37 PM
This medication is only approved to be taken my mouth. Taking it any other way is illegal.

Andrew
09-24-06, 05:17 PM
Tara is correct. Discussion of illegal and/or off-label administration of prescription medication is against forum guidelines. This thread is now closed.