I have posted here before...
My daughter is 5 yrs old and is a complete nightmare!

She has been to see a ADHD nurse about 3 months ago, he told me she had a few synptoms of ADHD but not enough to diagnose it!

But she is getting worse everyday, i have put her on a strict diet of health food for the past 18 months, no additives, colourings, preservatives, i have taken her off everything that contains sugar, i feed her as if she was a diabetic, so she gets a lot of healthy fresh food!

Her behaviour is just out of control, she has tantrums non stop and most of the time i don't even know why she gets the tantrum for in the first place, she gets very violent, i was told by the ADHD nurse to be firm with her and don't let her gets her own way, which i do, if she has misbehaved i put her on the 'naughty chair' for 5 minutes and tell her if she wants to get off she has to behave herself, this was advised to do by the ADHD nurse, but normally when i do it the chair either gets thrown at me or across the room or she just hits out at anyone that is near her, i've been bitten and slapped on a number of occasions or had something thrown at me!
She doesn't sleep much normally about 4 - 6 hours a night and sometimes even wakes during those times a few times!

At school she has just been put into a special needs class as she is way behind at school, because she cannot concentrate and forcus on one topic more than 2 minutes, her teacher has said she has a lot of tantrums at school also and doesn't get along with the other children very well!!

I don't get help from family members as they cannot cope with her!

I have taken her back to see my GP, but the ADHD nurse will not see her again as he says she doesn't have all the symptoms, but i think she has, i have read what the symptoms are and she seems to have all of them...Just need some advise, because i don't know what else i can do!

Thanks!

Could be ADD and ODD Oppositional Defiant Disorder. But, I am not a doc. Go to your GP and ask for a referral if you need one to a psychiatrist-I never heard of an ADD nurse-They aren't diagnosticians though. You need a specialist, living like that is he ll and you need a diagnosis-it is stressful for you and her! I bet the naughty chair doesn't work does it-she defies negative discipline-mine sure did. When I changed to positive methods, things got much better. She also slept on a cushion in our room until she was 5 or 6-very little sleep either. I wish I had known it was a disorder. I was undx'd and knew little about ADD, just thought I was a bad mom.

Book suggestion that might help you a lot too-Parenting with Love and Logic. It is really good and works with kids like this, especially in conjunction with medical treatment. I like the friendly, non-condemning approach and the explanations of how and why to use the techniques. It works in the classrooom-Teaching with Love and Logic!

TAke care,
RADD-Had a daughter with similar problems-my other two did not-so was I a bad parent? No. I just had a tough kid. I sure could have used a book like Love and Logic! She is now 23-but that is another story.

Yes, Parenting with Love and Logic is a great book. It's made a big difference in the way I handle my two grandchildren (my daughter and the two kids live with me). We still have a struggle getting the 8 year old to go to sleep before 10 PM, although when it's too big a struggle she takes one tablet of Melatonin and that helps.

Her little sister is not-quite-five and is going through a lot of the same things we saw with the older one, but her big sister went through them much younger. I'm sure glad I'm the gramma and I don't have to get up in the middle of the night when she wants to watch a video, or have something to eat or drink, or is just too antsy to sleep. If I wake up and hear her more than a couple of times in the night, or more than a couple of nights in a row I do go and get her to come and lay down with me. Sometimes that works - sometimes it doesn't.

Your daughter sounds a lot like my son. He was a real handfull when he was little.
He was never violent, but he made up for that with some really nasty tantrums.

Something like a chair would not have worked. He would have thrown the chair for sure. I used the couch. I made him stay on the couch for his timeouts. It helped behavior a bit. It never really helped with the core problem.. in his case his hyperness and impulsivity... Ritalin helped for a bit, but he did not get along with it, so he was taken off of it.

The doctors told us that he would probably outgrow it. For him, going the no-medication path was the wrong thing. He remains unmedicated to this day. He never finished high school. By his 18th birthday he was in prison. He has a hard time dealing with relationships of any kind. At the age of 30 he still has adhd along with a host of accumulated issues, but refuses to accept the fact. As far as he is concerend the world has a problem, not him.


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I have posted here before...
My daughter is 5 yrs old and is a complete nightmare!

She has been to see a ADHD nurse about 3 months ago, he told me she had a few synptoms of ADHD but not enough to diagnose it!

But she is getting worse everyday, i have put her on a strict diet of health food for the past 18 months, no additives, colourings, preservatives, i have taken her off everything that contains sugar, i feed her as if she was a diabetic, so she gets a lot of healthy fresh food!

Her behaviour is just out of control, she has tantrums non stop and most of the time i don't even know why she gets the tantrum for in the first place, she gets very violent, i was told by the ADHD nurse to be firm with her and don't let her gets her own way, which i do, if she has misbehaved i put her on the 'naughty chair' for 5 minutes and tell her if she wants to get off she has to behave herself, this was advised to do by the ADHD nurse, but normally when i do it the chair either gets thrown at me or across the room or she just hits out at anyone that is near her, i've been bitten and slapped on a number of occasions or had something thrown at me!
She doesn't sleep much normally about 4 - 6 hours a night and sometimes even wakes during those times a few times!

At school she has just been put into a special needs class as she is way behind at school, because she cannot concentrate and forcus on one topic more than 2 minutes, her teacher has said she has a lot of tantrums at school also and doesn't get along with the other children very well!!

I don't get help from family members as they cannot cope with her!

I have taken her back to see my GP, but the ADHD nurse will not see her again as he says she doesn't have all the symptoms, but i think she has, i have read what the symptoms are and she seems to have all of them...Just need some advise, because i don't know what else i can do!

Thanks!

I took my daughter back to see the child health visitor yesterday, she said my daughter is a lot worse from the last time she saw her, she also said my daughter difinatly has symptoms of ADHD, so she will get her re-assessed and get her to see a child psycologist which wasn't done last time, so fingers crossed someone will take notice of her this time!

I am not sure how it is in the UK, but in the US only an MD can prescribe meds. In the US, a psychologist is not an MD. You would need to see a psychiatrist.

I am kind of afraid to admit using this technique on the board, but here goes. When my littlest is so wild and refuses to stay in her room for her 5 min timeout I pick up her favorite toy (not her lovey) and tell her that if she does not listen it will go straight into the trash. Yes, that first toy is gone, but I have never had to throw another toy away again. I hate doing it, but it is the best non-violent type of consequence I have come up with.

Raging and times of little sleep can also be a symptom of childhood onset bipolar disorder. Just adding my bit to this thread...:).

Love and logic is great! I have used it for many years. As my children have gotten older I also found a book called Mother rules, or Family rules (same book, just one is more politically correct). Mother rules is great for children with behavioral issues. For a 5 year old you might have to make the chores shorter, but it makes more sence then the love and logic as far as children with ADHD goes. You make as many rules as you need to, and define consiquences, also make rules visable. The one rule for Love and Logic was to vague for my kids with ADHD, and having clear rules, that are stated, and in view has helped greatly. We have less issues, but alot of it is consistancey, and this allows for that easier as one parent may be easier going with a child then the other with Love and Logic. Mother rules also has insenatives added in, and is points based, like a special class, or instatution. It takes alot of the frustration out, and my kids know what is coming if they choose to break a rule, and it kinda makes sence because most adults know if they speed while driving they may get a ticket, and have to pay a fine.

So finally the ADHD Doctor has agreed to see my daughter again, he'll be making a home visit on November 13th:D