View Full Version : NEW! ADHD Research Project at The University of Sydney Australia


inquisitive
10-06-06, 09:04 PM
Hi everyone ...

I just wanted to inform you all of a new research project being conducted at The University of Sydney, Australia.

"Exploring the use of biofeedback video games to help children diagnosed with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) (http://www2.fhs.usyd.edu/arow/biofeedback4adhd/)".

Although participants are recruited locally in Australia, because of geographical limitations, I think it's an important study that would interest the global ADHD community.

So, if you're an Australian resident and are able and willing to participate contact the research team members as we would be interested to hear from you. And, if you're a global interest, sharing the knowledge of the issue and study is always welcomed!

:)

Animal
10-08-06, 11:13 PM
Hi Inquisitive,

I love video games! And also act like a child quite a lot of the time! Do I count?

(my physical age is 31)

inquisitive
10-08-06, 11:17 PM
hehehe Hi Animal! unfortunately, we are targeting children, physical age between 5-13 years :(

i've had a few interested people (above the age group we are after) enquire about participating, but at this stage we are looking at ADHD children.

who knows, maybe later down the track, depending how this study goes, we might extend the age group!

thanks for your interest Animal! :)

VisualImagery
10-09-06, 12:20 AM
Inquisitive, Animal may now call you the Inquistor! He is a child at heart! His chronological age inverted is 13! What some people will do to play video games! But Animal, you would have to go to the TESTING ROOM. They probably wouldn't let you lie on the floor and roll around and consume sangers while playing!

RADD

inquisitive
10-09-06, 12:49 AM
ROFL :D

lets not call it the "testing room" ... "experimental room" perhaps? no, equally as frightening! lets just say its one of the University rooms where we will be observing the children's behaviour towards the video games.

and no, rolling around on the floor is not encouraged! the "video games" we'll be testing, we're hoping will prevent things like wanting to roll around on the floor! its not the type of video games that stimulate excitement in a way that most games do, were hoping that this 'video game' will help teach children relaxation techniques and learn to obtain a 'reward' by being calm.

Rewy
10-23-06, 06:54 AM
im 13 (mental age, physically 25)....... and live very close to the University of Sydney......

Will the kids be locked up in cages when they are not being tested??? :D (kidding!)

inquisitive
10-24-06, 12:42 AM
what kind of research did you undertake as a child rewy?! no, no cages in our study!

nice (?) to see that you're comfortable in admitting you have mental ages of 13 ! :D

since you reside near the University know of anyone that may be interested in partaking in the study? help in my research promotion and recruitment is much appreciated :)

Rewy
10-24-06, 09:06 AM
one of my friends kids have ODD, however she lives no where near sydney...

I dont know of any kids with a physical age of 5-13 that have ADD or ADHD

soz

inquisitive
10-24-06, 11:13 PM
:D it's all good ...

i suppose the request for help is directed and open to everyone.

i'm looking forward to getting this underway so that i can review the results and tell everyone about it since there isnt much on biofeedback video games that dont involve attaching wires and stuff to the children's heads.

inquisitive
10-27-06, 08:00 AM
Friday 27th October 2006 : The ADHD and Biofeedback Research Website (http://www.adhdresearch.info) is currently down. I apologise for any inconvenience, unfortunately it is out of my hands. I will post again when the site is back up.

Thank you for your patience, and hope that you visit the site for updates to the study.

:)

inquisitive
10-29-06, 08:07 PM
Monday 30th October 2006 : The ADHD and Biofeedback Research Website (http://www.adhdresearch.info/) is back up and running.

Thank you for your patience.

:)

Nightwing
07-12-07, 01:29 PM
I just took a look at this website. The researchers are using a commercial software program called The Wild Divine (http://www.wilddivine.com/) which is designed to help you reach meditative states through biofeedback. I was fascinated when I first heard about this, around 3 or so years ago, as I've tried many times to learn how to meditate and the only thing I achieved was to bore myself out of my mind.

I bought the program, which isn't cheap -- I paid $150 for it 3 years ago. It consists of three caps that fit over your fingers, connected to what they call a lightstone, which is turn is connected to your computer. These 3 caps measure heart rate variability and skin conductance level.

The graphics in the software are gorgeous. Various figures appear to talk to you, explaining things as you walk through beautiful palacial grounds, like you'd imagine in an Arabian Nights story or Indian palace. Periodically, you come to an object that will move...float, bounce, turn...as the sensor readings indicate that you're relaxing.

When I first tried using The Wild Divine, I wound up feeling only frustration, because I was TRYING to make things happen. It wasn't until I happened to take my eyes off the screen and turned my attention away to look at something else that my ball began to float. At that point, I realized that I needed to stop trying to make things happen.

This program should be used on a regular basis to make progress in learning to relax. I gave up. But now that I am diagnosed and on medication, I'm eager to try again and see if I can finally make progress.

inquisitive
08-20-07, 05:13 AM
Nightwing is spot on with his description of The Wild Divine software we are using. Thank you so much for describing your experience with the game, we are using the game with children 5-15 years, but it is good to hear feedback from someone that can express their experiences with what they felt was difficult/easy and why they found it to be difficult/easy etc.

We now have preliminary results available on our website from the first group of 12 participants who have completed the study. We are currently in the middle of trials for our second group of participants (another 8 AD/HD children, and 10 children without AD/HD) to add to our AD/HD cohort, and create a control group to compare results to.

Please see our website (http://www.adhdresearch.info/) for the findings.

solidfrenzy
09-27-07, 08:25 AM
Observing the hyper-focused mind at work are we?

Good pattern!

(and you thought games were bad)

inquisitive
10-20-07, 01:23 AM
Watch an interview with Dr. Andrew Campbell, and myself talking about our Biofeedback and AD/HD Research Project on the television program Good Game, onthe ABC (in Australia). There will also be footage on what happens during the Biofeedback sessions conducted with the children.

The interview will air on the following dates;

Tuesday 23rd October 2007
8:30pm
ABC 2 (note this is not the ABC main channel)

The interview will be repeated on Thursday 25th October 2007
10:30pm
ABC 2

And again on Friday 26th October 2007
12:20am (i.e. early Saturday morning)
ABC (main channel).

For those of you who miss it, or are not in Australia to watch it, the episode will also be available to watch on the program's website at http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/ from next week.

:)

Nightwing
10-21-07, 11:48 AM
Thanks for the alert! I'm very curious to hear about your findings. I'm in the US, so I 'll be watching later on.

Nightwing

VisualImagery
12-03-07, 01:38 AM
Thanks Inquisitive! I will watch this soon. Glad to see a post like this.

VI

inquisitive
04-30-08, 06:49 AM
The direct link to the interview is http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/stories/s2067977.htm just click on play video (http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/video/pre2008.htm?program=goodgame&pres=20071023_2030&story=5).

The episode is Serious Games, and our particular segment for the study is roughly 4 minutes into the show.

We also have another interview coming up with a news program in the upcoming month, which will look more at the results of our study. Stay tuned!

inquisitive
06-03-08, 08:52 PM
Watch an interview with Dr. Andrew Campbell, and myself talking about our Biofeedback and AD/HD Research Project on the television program The 7:30 Report, on the ABC (in Australia). There will also be footage on what happens during the Biofeedback sessions conducted with the children, and an interview with the family.

The interview will air tonight (Wendesday, 4th June), on channel ABC, at 7:30pm.

For those of you who miss it, or are not in Australia to watch it, the episode will also be available to watch on the program's website at http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/ after the airing of the interview.

:)

r2d2
06-04-08, 02:24 AM
great work inquisitive! its great to see some genuine research going into Biofeedback!

I will be watching tonight!

out of curiosity - is the funding for this research sourced from the federal gov or state gov? and is it a struggle to obtain sufficient amounts of funding?

inquisitive
06-04-08, 11:38 PM
great work inquisitive! its great to see some genuine research going into Biofeedback!

I will be watching tonight!

out of curiosity - is the funding for this research sourced from the federal gov or state gov? and is it a struggle to obtain sufficient amounts of funding?


awww thanks r2d2!! :)

we didn't have any funding for the project unfortunately..
i could only imagine what more we could have done if it were funded. for one, we could have had a greater sample of participants which would have boosted the research more.

it is very difficult to get funding for research. but it is available..

aloha1983
06-09-08, 10:20 PM
Hi Inquisitive,

Really appreciate the work you are doing with ADHDers. I love what you are doing but hate the spin the media always puts on ADD.

For example, the edited version of the program was "how to tame ADHD without the use of harmful drugs".

This implies that you can do it totally drug free. Unfortunately, while many of us can live without them, we really don't achieve much. Also, there are a lot of adult ADDers who don't "grow out of it". The man interviewed also says this, saying the best treatment is multimodal, or a combination of things.

I saw the full length interview on the website and think the gentleman interviewed gave great answers but the reporter was really biased towards getting a particular slant for the edited program.

Anyway, that's just my opinion... it's really hard to see positive role models in the media for ADD.

I think you are doing a great job with your research... it's a shame there is a lack of funding and that other specialist treatments are often so expensive for us.

Keep up the good work and hope your website is a success.

inquisitive
06-10-08, 06:28 AM
Hi aloha1983,

Thanks so much, I can see where you are coming from regarding the questionning of the interviewer. I think, because of the recent news about ritalin being used on 2 year olds, that the program wanted to look particularly at the effects of treatments away from medication.

I don't think AD/HD is something someone particularly "grows out of".. I think that they learn skills to manage everyday life, which is important for funcitoning.

We definately do not think the biofeedback intervention we trialed can, or should replace medication. In fact, in our other television interview, my supervisor actually states this. We just think that medication should not always be the first treatment option, and that parents should be made aware of what else is available.

Thank you so much for your support in our study. Hopefully the government can see some light into what we are trying to do, and help out for the greater good of the families that are struggling.

aloha1983
06-19-08, 06:51 PM
Yeah, I know, I saw he said that and I thought, "good on you", and it stinks the program didn't show it.

I often wonder how we can change the view of ADD in Australia, I really want to do something about it but it's hard to know where to start. It's such a taboo, I would love for people to be able to speak about it more freely with employers, friends and potential partners. Instead there's such a big stigma often we don't say anything.

Any ideas of where to start? My friends and family have suggested a website (yours is great, by the way!), a book, or telling our stories to magazines geared towards families. I thought you might have some other ideas?

Thanks so much for the reply, really appreciate it! Feel free to get in contact if you ever need any qualitative feedback etc.

Many thanks,
Kristen

inquisitive
06-24-08, 06:24 AM
People are always thinking of ways to get word out there about changing the stigma attached to ADHD, and it is tough. I think that websites, forums, and blogs etc. are great - it brings people affected with ADHD together, and a great place to find out about ADHD straight from people who are either living through it, have experience with people who have it, or (like me) are researching it, to gain inside view knowledge.

The only issue with these mediums, are that they are mainly viewed by people who seek it. That is, people who seek support, want to have a say, or looking for answers. The stigma is strong because people who believe the 'wrong' stuff about ADHD are those that read mainly whatever the headlines are. Which is devastating, because that means the way to get through to them would be to be in a headline story.

Sad, but true don't you think?

Maybe you can contact some newspaper reporters about a story you'd like them to write about how people with ADHD are affected with the news and effects of their news headlines have on you. Write to newspapers and reporters and say you and thousands of other Australians and international people, are tired of being portrayed in a dirty light. Tell them that you have a long list of people who are willing to give comments and stories about how you are all affected.

I'm sure if they were hounded down by enough people on the issue they may sit down and consider it!

SB_UK
07-17-08, 07:09 AM
biofeedback video games

presumably these games will cost money -
lot$ and lot$ of money.

- so - that's me out -
I need a solution which does not support an addicting software-pusher.

- why?

Because we'll find that ADD solves as a disorder
and
we get to live happily ... ... ...
- when all others adopt this very simple modus operandi

............................................ ever after

'somewhere I(we) belong'
Linkin' Park

qinkin
08-25-08, 03:51 PM
i'm into the idea that LIFE itself at all times, is this biofeedback video game.. lol..

this very simple modus operandi

Having said that though.. it'd be interesting to go down that rabbit hole, to see what it is about, i'm supposing

"how to tame ADHD without the use of harmful drugs".

I'm not sure these mild stimulants (like adderall) are all that harmful.. i benefitted

So we are supposing that activity treats ADD/HD.. in a place quite safe.. but nothing has ever CURED me of the symptoms.

stims meds are good, video games are good

antzpantz_4011
02-18-10, 05:42 AM
Hi my son is 7 years old has been on ritalin for about 2 years is now on 9 tablets 10mg a day he has 3 at 6am 3 at 10am and 3 at 2pm, He ios also on prozac and 3 melotonin. he has a diagnosis of ADHD variant and ASD. We need help desperately. If you have any tests or any other suggestions to what we can do in order to be 100% sure that the diagnosis is correct we would be greatful to here it. He is not having learning problems but his behaviour is extremely impulsive irrational and very much hard to handle. Diet changes have been tried with no success. Ritalin seems to make him a bit more manageable but still not working as well as it once did. Thanks for your time.

LynneC
02-18-10, 11:14 AM
Antzpantz, if you would create a new post under the 'Parents of ADHD Children' section, you will get more views and responses there. Or maybe a moderator could move to the appropriate spot?

antzpantz_4011
02-19-10, 04:24 PM
thanks lynne will do that sorry am new to this

ConcertaParent
11-24-12, 10:48 PM
Has anybody tried Wild Divine for their child? I have just started reading the book The Mislabeled Child and it is one of the recommended treatments along with neurofeedback. It is also one of the optional training tools that is used in the neurofeedback clinic that my child is going to.
I bought the program, which isn't cheap -- I paid $150 for it 3 years ago. It consists of three caps that fit over your fingers, connected to what they call a lightstone, which is turn is connected to your computer. These 3 caps measure heart rate variability and skin conductance level.
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When I first tried using The Wild Divine, I wound up feeling only frustration, because I was TRYING to make things happen. It wasn't until I happened to take my eyes off the screen and turned my attention away to look at something else that my ball began to float. At that point, I realized that I needed to stop trying to make things happen.

This program should be used on a regular basis to make progress in learning to relax. I gave up. But now that I am diagnosed and on medication, I'm eager to try again and see if I can finally make progress.