Just recently I have been trying to develop a more positive way of thinking, I have found that this helps me a great deal, but it never seems to be consistant. For excample, I ussually find that after I hit rock bottom I am able to summon my positve thoughts more easily. However, after I finally have access to these positive thoughts and my life finally starts to improve, they leave suddenly for some particular reason or sometimes no reason at all. When this occurs I am not able to retrieve these positive thoughts, my brain goes into hyper- focus about my faults, and I loose my access to rational thinking, I give in to minds chatter, and I am back to point a, low self esteem, isolation etc. Does anybody have any advise, for those like myself who have trouble getting the " negative chatter" out of their heads???

Also can anybody relate to how I feel? Is this sudden mood shift, popular amoung ADDERs?

Just recently I have been trying to develop a more positive way of thinking, I have found that this helps me a great deal, but it never seems to be consistant. For excample, I ussually find that after I hit rock bottom I am able to summon my positve thoughts more easily. However, after I finally have access to these positive thoughts and my life finally starts to improve, they leave suddenly for some particular reason or sometimes no reason at all. When this occurs I am not able to retrieve these positive thoughts, my brain goes into hyper- focus about my faults, and I loose my access to rational thinking, I give in to minds chatter, and I am back to point a, low self esteem, isolation etc. Does anybody have any advise, for those like myself who have trouble getting the " negative chatter" out of their heads???

Also can anybody relate to how I feel? Is this sudden mood shift, popular amoung ADDERs?Stargirl,

I have the mood shifts...and now that I have been diagnosed ADD and started on Adderall XR I am trying hard to see them coming and not allow them to occur. However, what I will call environmental issues, in my case my job or soon to be lack of job has been swinging the moods back and forth by the minute for the last few weeks. I know some of this is plain old stress and anxiety, but some of it is part of ADD for me. I think they are defensive mechanisms for me especially the moods swings that cause me to snap at my family. My own defenses not allowing me to hear the truth or allowing me to see my own cirumstances. I am work with my psychiatrist to figure out if the walls are truly part of my ADD or something else or just stress triggered.

NJTrout

Just recently I have been trying to develop a more positive way of thinking, I have found that this helps me a great deal, but it never seems to be consistant. For excample, I ussually find that after I hit rock bottom I am able to summon my positve thoughts more easily. However, after I finally have access to these positive thoughts and my life finally starts to improve, they leave suddenly for some particular reason or sometimes no reason at all. When this occurs I am not able to retrieve these positive thoughts, my brain goes into hyper- focus about my faults, and I loose my access to rational thinking, I give in to minds chatter, and I am back to point a, low self esteem, isolation etc. Does anybody have any advise, for those like myself who have trouble getting the " negative chatter" out of their heads???

Also can anybody relate to how I feel? Is this sudden mood shift, popular amoung ADDERs?
Its so funny, I JUST replied to your last post about conversations, and now.. I have stumbled onto another one.. which is EXACTLY how I feel and what happens with me all the time!

Are you sure you're not me?! :D

... focus about my faults ... - there're many who never stop to reassess their own selves, to identify what they perceive as faults within themselves, prior to changing and moving on.
I don't believe that any of us have faults which should make us feel as bad as they really do - and that the feelings are just a trick of the brain (which really only wants one thing - to work (have electricity surging through it))
- that said though
... perhaps the awareness that the identification of 'faults' is kinda' the precursor to change for the better, that the bad feelings are a neurological trick - and that - it's difficult to garner perspective in many things personal - we're all locked in our own minds - making believe we share a single external reality ...

So - how do I get out of my mind and into my life?

...funnily enough - the pattern of evolution has been in the exact opposite direction - and man arose when man gained the capacity to descend into his or her own mind - onto one's own internal (mental) stage of consciousness - man arose when man was capable of playing a role within man's own real-time film of reality - occurring within his or her own head.
rrreality as individual.

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the phenomenal self-model instantiates a self with each fault focus

opacity begets clarity

clarity can't see itself

relax

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Originally Posted by SolarLife
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one (we,us) are simultaneously being the first person and the third person.
The actor on the stage acting.
The observer of the actor.

And I believe that the feeling is one of one drifting off and watching oneself in a conversation - I have had this feeling.
I've seen it described by others here too.
Talking to someone with mind in neutral - whilst watching yourself wandering whether you'll be able to run off when they turn around.


The actor and observer - I believe - is where the idea of the evolution of the mind - towards a pure multithreaded pattern - ie greater than one thread of conscious awareness running simultaneously.

With 2 lines of conscious awareness running - I wonder how many other threads of conscious awareness before we're into the land of the daydreaming ADDer - of ADDer in hyperfocus - of ADDer thinking non-linearly --- of all of these.

Once again the simple couple of ideas which make sense of all of this - simply - that the brain,mind is a data-driven engine and that its prime directive is to fire (neurotransmission) - thereby we see that the consequences (intelligent behaviour - the human mind) - are just byproducts of the true driver.

Naturally - multiple threads of conscious awareness are better than a single thread - through the eyes of the prime directive - and the result - I very much fear :-) - is the explanation for the experiential perspective of the ADDer.

I love these ideas because there's no kinda' 'I'm better or worse than you' which travels along with them - ordinarily - state that ADDers are more highly evolved - and one sees an immediate backlash - because the inference is drawn that ADDers are better.

Now the idea changes to ADDer patterns of thought are evolutionarily more advanced than nonADD patterns - because they are reorganized in a pattern and are used in a way which ensures increased levels of firing.

- and it's because reality poses the perfect substrate to model - being of exceedingly complex complexity - that advancements commanded by the prime directive - provide adders with a mind which is better capable of modelling the reality in which we find ourselves.

ADDers are closer to RRReality - but for sure - it's still internal - rrreality.


The prime directive as happy as Larry - who's particularly happy (it needs to be said) - these days.

I can honestly say that all unnessary negative mind chatter has gone from my mind , after just 3 weeks of using a wobble board.

My mind still wanders , but i more and more, notice that it has wandered.

But the negative thought spirals have gone. And if they even start, i just think,"this is not real, this is not nessary"... and hey presto i feel present!!

But as i say my mind still wanders, but only possitive things... So i would say im still living in my head, but i can see the way out!!

Luke.

Wow!
I read your blog, it was facinating, I can relate to the power of our subcontious mind, I thought it was interesting how when you focused on balancing on the wobble board you were actually worse, and how eventually you got better. I think it is not only our contious mind that learns how to do something but our subcontious too. For instance, I guess the wobble board thing kind fo reminded me of snowboarding, when I first learned I was overly focused on learning to balance right, I did not trust myself, thus I often fell. However, over time I learned to let " loose" a little bit and not focus as much attention on myself, in other words I let my subcontious mind do it's work, and I learned how to keep my balance fairly well. Now when I snowboard , I focus on catching the best " hills" and absorbing the wonderfull feeling of zooming down the hill, there is no need for worrying, I can trust myself. Now I am trying to incorprate that lesson into my daily life.
Feel free to elabrate more on how the wobble board has helped you, I am looking into it myself.

wobble boards are fun too ...
kiddy plays on mine ...
... the conscious mind entails a processing delay
It's only going to be possible to balance on a wobble board - ski on a snow-board - by disengaging conscious mind

Disengaging conscious mind has many advantages

Chilled?

:-) Put a jacket on!

Snowboarding in Surfboarding gear

is ill-advised

:-)

"Feel free to elabrate more on how the wobble board has helped you, I am looking into it myself."

I guess the main thing is it has given me presence.... So i am aware that my mind wanders now , rather than realising 20 minutes later realising ive been in la la land...

If i drink coffee now, it gives me focus, rather than making me edgy

i get up before my alarm now,

i dont worry, i just think of the solution

i have great balance now!!

and its only been 3 weeks!!

I can strongly recomend you get one!!

I also , just on the weekend, made a bet with 2 friends who have depression...

I bet them , if they buy a wobble board, and do the exercises , twice per day, for 2 months, that they will no longer be a victim of their negative thoughts...
and if not satisified , ill buy back the wobble boards, at the original purchase price!!
In addition , i will be teaching them meditation techniques, and relaxation on the breath techniques.... plus whatever comes to me .......but i have a great feeling it will really help them, and then if all goes well, ill blog it and hopefully help millions!!

So in 2 months ill let you know!!

I have another technique for you...

write out this affirmation...

"I stargirl101(insert your real name here), am present at all times,
i stargirl101 become more and more present every day, in everyway"

Write this on a piece of paper and carry it with you, say this several times per day...

And then you can ask your self whenever it comes to mind "Am i present?"
and hey presto , you will be present , Living in the "power of now'!!!

try that let me know!!
and be sure to have your self a great day!!

I don't know about other ADDer's but I don't have sudden mood shifts. I do have my moods...

I think the thing is to not force it. Maybe you are where you need to be right now. Just do what you can and the rest will follow in due time. Good thnigs do not happen overnight.
Is that enough quotable euphamiasms? :)

just my two-cents worth...

ME :D

I don't know about other ADDer's but I don't have sudden mood shifts. I do have my moods...

I think the thing is to not force it. Maybe you are where you need to be right now.

Just do what you can and the rest will follow in due time. Good thnigs do not happen overnight.
Is that enough quotable euphamiasms? :)

just my two-cents worth...

ME :D

I I think the thing is to not force it.
Hey, I defiantley agree with that piece of advise! You really can't force anything in life if you want to be happy. To move on you need to accept things for what they really are, a part of life. I think this also can apply to emotions, for excample, I find that when I am sad, if I force myself to be happy, or cover my emotions, I will soon find that I feel worse afterwards. Also, if you are not in a place you want to be in, forcing yourself to get out of the sittuation is the worst thing you can do. I think remaining and developing presence is very imortant. I like to remind myself of this by using the agknowlegy of a tangled knot, the harder you pull, the more tangled the not becomes. In life if you want to acheive lasting fufillment you must take a deep breath and accept the place you are in, only then can you truely untangle yourself.

Those who have been able to achieve this constant state of presence I have yet to meet, but it is something I am working on and most importantly learning from.

Any suggestions on gaining further presence?
Acceepting negative thoughts etc.??

3 great quotes:


"What ever the human mind can believe, it can concieve"

"Thoughts are not real , but they create your reality, so choose what you believe"

"Every thought you have is a prayer" (so think about what you want, not what you dont want)...

Thankyou for you inspirational insight, I love those of quotes, they serve as great wake up calls and healthy reminders for many.

I love how all your quotes highlight " the importance" of using our mind/thoughts in a positive way. I think so often we take advantage of our mind, we don't give it credit for all it is capable for, thus give up on wut is truely important to us, because we lack the confidence in our minds. Then because we can't get what we want to be we further degrade ourselves, and make up excuses that further enforce our negative beliefs. Unfortunately, I had to learn this the hard way, and went through much pain because I was unable to grasp this " simple yet powerful concept." I still am learning and experiencing pain, but it is good to know that I'm back on track.

I thought that I would add one of my favorite quotes...............

" Cherish your visions and your dreams as they are the children of your soul; the blueprints of your ultimate achievments."- Napoleon Hill

Just a little something to think about....

...the blueprint of true desire...

life finally starts to improve, they leave suddenly for some particular reason or sometimes no reason at all. When this occurs I am not able to retrieve these positive thoughts, my brain goes into hyper- focus about my faults, and I loose my access to rational thinking, I give in to minds chatter, and I am back to point a, low self esteem, isolation etc. Does anybody have any advise, for those like myself who have trouble getting the " negative chatter" out of their heads???


I agree with the SB and Luke I think they have some great advice. I just want to add a few things. . .

Are we our emotions or are our emotions us?

Some times we feel bad about feeling bad, we judge our selves as bad because we have a negative thought or two. Emotions are not good or bad in them selves however it is how we deal with them that makes this decision.

Don’t let a bad emotion or negative feeling fool you into thinking you are a bad person or have a negative attitude. Even people with the sunniest out looks have cloudy days unless they are living in la la land! Bad thoughts don’t make any one a bad person bad words or actions do

Good feeling used to make me afraid because I knew they wouldn’t last. . .one day it dawned on me the bad feelings didn’t last either. . . it just seems like they do.

. I also have learned the pictures we paint for our selves in the inside become apparent on the outside


Do not fake feeling good (unless you have to because you are at work) do not deny anger, jealousy rage or feeling sorry for yourself accept the feeling own them so you can release them. . . feelings stuffed inside under the cover of denial do not go any where they stay inside a fester like a infectious would capable of infecting an entire being. . . .

Accepting your emotions as yours and walking through them had some really cool side effects for me. . . .

Accepting my self made me more accepting of others.

Accepting my emotions without assigning a label enabled me to look for the why. . . some times I would find the reason only to see how silly I was being. . . not long ago a reoccurrence of a particular crappy feeling gave birth to setting some much needed goals. . . .


I was unhappy because I had no goals I felt adrift. . .then I got really bummed out. . . . I felt like I drove a crappy car, lived in a crappy house and had a crappy job plus I felt like crap. . .I was beginning to get very sick . . . I had been prescribed more meds as my doc was trying to turn my health around . . .the rate of my decline was baffling . . . . .and I was facing the possibility of having to take some meds that would end my ability to nurse. .

Life isn’t all peaches and cream. . . while bogging yesterday it dawned on me by the end of this month all three goals will have been obtained. . . I saved got a better car by mid-September, we just moved into a better home, which improved my health - the crappy one was full of mold – we did not know one entire side of the place was covered in black mold it until we were moving out. I am allergic to the mold that floats in the air. . .living in a mold infested place caused my immune system to kick into over drive. The combination of the mold and immune reaction reeked havoc on my health. . . . I missed my hyper activity. . . I thought my bounces were gone forever I was really sad about that. . . . .I am soooo glad to see my bounces coming back so rapidly. . . two weeks out I am off all extra medications leaving only my Adderall and PRN Xanax.

My last day at my crappy job is Nov 30 2006. . . . life is too short to live in misery. . . I clung to that which made me unhappy out of fear. This became apparent when I was wondering how much of a life I had left. . .. . . . it took some pretty crappy stuff to get me moving. . . if life remained all peaches and cream we would have no reason to improve. . . .we would be stagnant . . . . soon to be stinking.

Some times reoccurring negative feeling can be our queue that a change is needed being accepting of our selves will enhance our ability to see what those changes actually are.


I learned I need the positive warm fuzzie feelings to keep me going but I also need the crappy unhappy ones to get me moving . . . . . feelings are neither good or bad it is what we do with them that determines that! A blue mood can be a good thing!


Are we our emotions or are our emotions us?

Much of who we are is attitude so choose yours wisely !

"Are we our emotions or are our emotions us? "

Thoughts and emotions are just energy....

We are nothing more than energy... So flow with the energy, dont stick to it....

We are %100 responsible for %100 of our lives... If something bothers you, simply ask , how was it that i created that... the answer will come to you...
Then thank that situation for the lesson learnt and move on...

You will always get what youve been getting, if you always think the way youve been thinking...

So look for the love, see the love ,feel the love....

Intention is the most powerfull resourse i know of... So intend for greatness, and greatness you shall have...
Unfortunatly Being concious of all of this, day to day is my stumbling block....