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JustNeedHelp

11-18-06, 10:56 PM

Do you believe the laws of physics or gravity or any other of the many laws could ever be WRONG.

Take free energy for instance:

The law of conservation of energy states that energy may neither be created nor destroyed, do you believe it?

Did you know there have been dozens of patents filed with the government to get a patent for 'free energy' machines, the most promising was Howard Johnson's Magnet Motor (http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/index.html) which when taken to the patent office was refused a patent due to his not being able to explain how it produces electricty with zero input electricity. but that machine has controversy around it so lets forget that one...

But to prove they need to rewrite the law of conservation... there is a machine that will allow us to be able to buy our electricty for much cheaper than we do now with this invention that is patented and being SOLD as of right now that produces MORE energy than is put into the device emitting ZERO emmisions, and NO radiation its completely self sustaining after giving it initial life, and environmentally frendly! check it out! its very interesting doesnt compare to the huge solar towers there gonna build in australia but its close...

http://www.gammamanager.com/index.html - main company website

The company claims to have 14 prototypes working and in use as of right now. Claims to be able to produce anywhere between 1.5 MW an hour to 225 MW an hour of Free energy, as it only takes a little bit of energy to get it running and onces its set in motion it uses i believe 5% of the electricty produced by the machine to keep it powered the other 95% is free to be used on what ever is needed. Thus in a way its free energy; but the draw back is the hefty price tag to buy a machine that produces 150 MWe will cost 245 Million USD: but when used for 40 years it saves the owner 764 Million USD every 40 years allowing for VERY cheap electricity.

Or do you just think the machine gets the energy from the air... as it could also be possible for the machine to get the energy from the atoms particles in the air around it as they are CONSTANTLY giving and taking energy to and from each other.

*****

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

EDITED had to add this DO NOT take this the wrong way i only posted this to get your minds thinking YES this is to the best of my knowledge a real machine with real data but its for fun i want to get your brain thinking and see what you think about this topic and about th emachine itself please dont get offended if you feel like the laws of energy and mass should never be changed

jsf84

12-03-06, 05:57 PM

Hey, JNH, i know this is an old thread, but your statements got me thinkin.

Please take what is say as only my understanding, feel free to correct me where i'm wrong.

Physical laws do state that energy cannot be created, but take that with a grain of salt. The conservation law used by all but the most advanced undergrad courses simply use the actual law of conservation in an elementary form, as i'm sure you know.

For most analytical situations, the idea of conservation of energy is completely useful and simplifies most problems. The actual law, as we understand it today, relates back to Einsteins work on special relativity. In developing his theories, he noticed that the accepted laws pertaining to absolute time and distance were flawed. This led to his idea that light and matter are different only in form. Later experiments and developments in math would go to support his theories.

So, the actual law should read that "In a closed system, (energy + matter) remain constant." where, at least according to special relativity, E=mc^2. Where E is energy, m is mass, c is the speed of light in a vacuum. While you can objectively argue that, because mass and energy are interchangable, conservation of energy is true, it is not really quite a complete idea if you get my meaning.

Energy is a funny thing. For the most part it makes a whole lot of sense. When you get into quantum theory however, everything changes. It's ridiculously complicated, but it does work.

And don't get too worked up about the free energy contraptions that people put out. Mostly they are hoaxes or improper data analysis (see pons fleishmann). A device which would create more energy as output than it has as input would really be wonderful. that's why people always go so nuts over ideas like cold fusion. But i suspect that when a device that REALLY works is discovered, there will be no possible way to contain it. That type of knowledge could never be bottled up.

jsf84

12-03-06, 06:18 PM

Sorry for the double post, but i went to the link you posted, and while it is intriguing, the is NO INFORMATION about how the system acually works.

edit - further research around the web has provided some more info, i'll get back to you on what i think:)

speedo

12-03-06, 06:50 PM

It's not possible to know what those motors are doing, because they don't show schematics and they don't show the math behind their design.

I can tell you that the last "free energy" device I looked into involved a bogus electronic power factor controller, and some rather suspicious math that eventually turned up as an incorrect result due to the fact they were ignoring losses in the curcuitry and misusing well known principles in electronics (and physics).... in short it was a rather convincing hoax that
looked good on paper until you started to look closely and ask hard questions... They even went so far as to build a "working" prototype.

If you want to show that free energy works you have to show the math, and show clearly how it works. All I have seen thus far from that crowd is a lot of bogus double-speak and equally bogus devices that are meant to fool people who don't understand engineering and science very well.

ME :D

Zach326

12-03-06, 08:08 PM

Video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=553061720631716456&q=perpetual+mobile&hl=en

Further detail:
http://www.theverylastpageoftheinternet.com/magneticDev/finsrud/finsrud.htm

The machine will stop now and then due to 'static' from outside influence.

The machine its self however is 'said' to be in perpetual motion.

I haven't researched it much but it is fun to look at regardless of its apparent lack of practical application.

jsf84

12-03-06, 08:28 PM

It's not possible to know what those motors are doing, because they don't show schematics and they don't show the math behind their design.

After doing some more research on this subject i have come to believe that it is at the very least a highly questionable group that is in charge of that research. They have ridiculous NDA statements and on the PESwiki the article claims that the machine is still not self sustaining as of 10/13/06.

Considering that they own patent rights to a whole lot of that technology, i'm surprised that some type of specifications have not been released. At this point they are saying "hey, we can produce excess energy, but you can't look"

That's like saying i'm going to turn this dollar bill into a twenty.....just turn around......dont look.

i suppose time will tell.

speedo

12-03-06, 10:29 PM

JustNeedHelp

12-04-06, 08:16 PM

The pendulum mobile is very likely real.

It looks like it relies on storing energy in springs, and the use of high strength permanet magnets may give a little boost. IF this is the case, the mystery power source is the energy stored in the permanent magnets like the chaos pendulums that you can buy in novelty stores. They did say it stops from time to time, so it is not a 100% efficent machine since it apparently runs down eventually.

ME :Dyes but think if you had 50-100+ of those machines and all you had to do to produce 'free' and perfectly clean and safe energy was to give a disk or rotar or what ever they use a spin to get it going again every hour or so?! i would take that job in a heart beat, as to help support the clean energy buisness

and i didnt mean to sound so... defensive ya know this machine might not work but i truely believe that there is a macine out there that has already been built and has already been tested and works, although why its not discovered i dont know but i feel there has been one made, maybe it was destroyed in a fight/robery maybe a government official abused power to get it who knows?

jsf84

12-04-06, 09:24 PM

yes but think if you had 50-100+ of those machines and all you had to do to produce 'free' and perfectly clean and safe energy was to give a disk or rotar or what ever they use a spin to get it going again every hour or so?! i would take that job in a heart beat, as to help support the clean energy buisness
While i'm 110% with you on the clean energy thing, consider what you just said. In order to create a machine like that that could provide useful energy a) it would have to do work, which i suspect would kill that balls motion faster than you could spit and b) the machine would have to be HUGE. that means that restarting it would require a whole bunch of energy, and the whole point of this is to get EXCESS energy:) . So, while it's a really neat invention, probably not practical.

i don't really see why people go so nuts over these machines and try to dump a bunch of money into the "miracle invention". I always just like to think that we have a fusion source that has about a couple billion years of life left in it, yup, the sun. Consider this, i live in tucson, and all around me is a bunch of unused desert that is too dry to basically support any form of life. SOOOO, why don't we invest a bunch of money into a company like this one --> www.nanosolar.com (http://www.nanosolar.com/) that is making some great strides in affordable solar collection. use that technology here in the desert to create a full scale energy production plant serving both Phoenix and Tucson. Make it a prototype for future development. Compared to the old style collection grids built more than 20 years ago, these things are unreal. They are WAAAY cheaper to produce, easier to deploy, and much more prone to surviving harsh weather.

Screw the entire idea of "making your money back" ...send off enough of that thin film solar collection material to set up a massive collection array on the moon. From there you just microwave the energy back to a mesh receiving station here on earth. With a bit of investment, innovation, and honest effort, we could provide two or three terrawatts of pure energy sans pollution inside of 25 years.

It's not like people wouldn't still make money on it, i mean cmon, after setting up a couple receiving stations and tying them into the power grid you'd be all set to go.

The technology has actually been tried back in the 80's. It was successful enough then, even with old silicon panel based PV grids to make it doable. A team at stanford i think in '84 was heavily involved in a similar effort that was literally shut down due to the fact that the govt would simply not fund the effort, even after the tech was proven.

BTW - i know that site i provided for nanosolar doesn't give you tons of info, but their stuff is extremely well funded. I doubt they would have raised 100 million bucks without some pretty decent technology. In the past 5 years they have acquired some very big investors and top level management.

speedo

12-04-06, 10:52 PM

You can usually tell that something is wrong with an invention/idea when the laws of thermodynamics are violated... typically in the form of claiming to get more energy out of a device than was put into it.... Another indication of a bogus invention is when claims of government or industry coverup/suppression are made.

Let's face it, there is no free lunch.

There are lots of great ideas that can work, and they are waiting for some bright person to make them work. Do the math, make it work, and take it to the marketplace. If it fills a need you will have customers. If you don't do it right, you are going to fail.... Energy is a tough market. You have to be able to deliver, and if you don't, all the talk and flashy gadgets in the world won't put money in the bank.

Me :D

qinkin

12-07-06, 03:09 PM

Nuclear energy, nontheless must be erradicated (b4 we decide to blow ourselves up).

remember Spiderman 2, when Doc Oc created the ultimate nuclear energy source. He made the sun! LOL insane, but is it possible to have a stable sun?

His problem, is forgetting we already have the sun, lol. How would an actual sun work, though? Pretty unreal, right?

In a vacuum it may work, right? just by putting some devices to extract the rays from it would be quite great. Possible? Ur idea about solar panels on the moon, then microwave them. Instead, our own, with way better means to get the energy. Self sustaining sun, no need for too much energy, as compared to how much it gives.

Can anyone elaborate more on possible problems and that. Perhpas direct me towards info on this subject?

qinkin

12-07-06, 03:27 PM

I do fear if we take energy directly from Earth's processes, Earth may die much quicker.

Even our own solar system, you know? Disrupting the dynamics already present and the equilibrium of the planets with Earth and the Sun and their moons.

We can create something within our system that is in equilibrium with everything else. To be compatible with nature, must resemble nature as best we understand it.

Energy itself may be clean, but energy can destroy the Planet too.

JustNeedHelp

12-07-06, 05:12 PM

yes i agree with the solar energy post, i accually think solar WILL BE the next energy future i hate the idea of the turbines in the water, not only will that help speed up (but could possibly help prevent) global warming as it will alter teh oceans movements, and after say 50 years 100 years of using that technology we would notice a huge decrease in marine life just from using those alone (the machine ultimately uses the waves energy to power a turbine but when energy is taken from a wave and converted to electrical it takes energy out of the waves causing less hurricanes? increased global warming decreased global warming, but i do think plant and animal lif ewould die out as the water patterns would change el Nino anybody? but when i get my own house im putting up HUGE solar panels i dont care how much they cost im putten em up then im getting an electrical car he he he see if the power company can screw me over now...

JustNeedHelp

12-07-06, 05:15 PM

Energy itself may be clean, but energy can destroy the Planet too.wow, i just read that and... wow.... im speachless, thats really good i really like that quote its plain and simple yet delievers a big message

well it meant something to me atleast, i think im going to replace my quotes in my signature with that

jsf84

12-07-06, 11:08 PM

i hate the idea of the turbines in the water, not only will that help speed up (but could possibly help prevent) global warming as it will alter teh oceans movements, and after say 50 years 100 years of using that technology we would notice a huge decrease in marine life just from using those alone (the machine ultimately uses the waves energy to power a turbine but when energy is taken from a wave and converted to electrical it takes energy out of the waves causing less hurricanes? -snip- EXACTLY, that's the one of the reasons that i think solar could be so profound, it doesn't mess around with the equilibrium of earth!!! Additionally it gives us a reason to go to the moon and advance our space program. EVEN more additionally, it would spur an entire new age in technology. Hydrogen fuel would be viable, prices for most consumer goods would fall greatly, profits would rise, wages would rise, and really what could go wrong?
The oil tycoons get all crazy about loosing business, but really, the solar is the SMARTEST business. WIth oil you are always paying out to find more, transport it, mine it, and all that garb. With solar, you just set up shop and watch the dollars roll.

Additionally, we still need petroleum for a ton of stuff, it's not like the industry would shut down. At least not in the next century. So really, by investing in new energy assets, you are preserving the oil industry. Otherwise it will burn out much sooner.

Or perhaps that's just my add talking.....

qinkin

12-14-06, 02:36 PM

;)

i think im going to replace my quotes in my signature with that
coolness, just like the self-sustaining machine, the machine that is our solar system won't go along forever.

They did say it stops from time to time, so it is not a 100% efficient machine since it apparently runs down eventually.
The machine will stop now and then due to 'static' from outside influence.ya, maybe interfering too much with anything, will cause the thing to stop functioning normally. heh, doesn't sound, bad, fun actually.

let's mess with it, then. the world will end someday as most can clearly see. We should look at what might happen now, if we wangle Earth&Sun dynamics.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_photosynthesis

(here)

http://www.climateark.org/articles/2000/4th/reworkto.htm

be compatible with nature, must resemble nature as best we understand it.

moe.ron

12-14-06, 04:52 PM

Think about it this way: why havent we used other energy sources except for gasoline yet? Because gasoline is so cheap.

Hydrogen: Hydrogen gas is much less dense then air, so it escapes our atmosphere. There isnt much hydrogen gas on earth. Why not get it from water? H20->h2+02 simple enough chemistry. To use this process energy has to be provided. We would need much more energy to make it then we would after we got it. The energy source to make it would be most likely gasoline or coal. Not to mention the efficiency of hydrogen gas is 1/3 of gasoline. This idea would not be a productive idea.

Solar: As of now solar energy is far too weak to power a vehicle, it would need something like a km^2 panel to power a vehicle. Not practical now. Nanotechnology for energy could be practical though.

Wind: SOmething like 40% of denmark's electricity is powered by wind power. This would be a good supplementary idea for energy companies to use in addition to their current processes.

Secondly, back to the main idea of the thread, a true perpetual motion machine would never work. Simple physics can explain quite simply. For energy to be "created" it needs energy to be transfered. An object at rest stays at rest unless another object acts on it. With no objects acting on it, it will stay at rest. Also an object in motion stays in motion when no other forces are present. In all practicality this is impossible. The problem with that is we are in a forceful universe, regardless of if we notice it or not. WE constantly have forces of gravity pushing down on upon us, just as planets gravitys push down on them. We have atmospheric pressure (a force/area). Not to mention every object has density (mass/volume). If you combine the equations you can see that since time is flowing regularly (in a practical sense) that density over time quickly turns into a form of force. Subatomically there are three or four fources acting on atoms at once(electromagnetic, weak, and strong forces with the graviton being the undiscovered). So to actually be in a true perpetual motion is impossible. Is it possible to get close, yes, but would require massive alterations of matter. Even if we altered it so there were no forces acting on a system, it would be impossible to harness it without applying force....moreso the only possible systems that could "create" energy in that sense would require obliterating some also. If you throw in the complexities of relativity, particle physics, and quantum theory you still cannot in any sense get something from nothing. You can get things that wernt in our system before, such as anti-particles, but they still are not created nor destroyed. In a sense everything has already been created that will ever, and to create anything is nonsense.

I threw in way too many topics that together dont make too much sense. If anyone read that shame on you. or shame on me for writing it.

qinkin

12-14-06, 08:14 PM

we get a force 2gether, of artifical photosynthesis contraptions, and we are in lala land for a while. it's breaking down stuff, getting that ATP from chemical processes.

In nature, leaves absorb carbon dioxide from the air and convert it to sugar and other carbon products," says project leader Dr. Vijoleta Braach-Maksvytis. "By imitating this process with a mix of manufactured materials instead of chlorophyll, we are hoping to develop technology that can reduce the large amounts of carbon dioxide emitted into the atmosphere from power stations and cars. Byproducts of the process could be a valuable alternative fuel, methane, or even food in the form of starches and sugars."

Newtonian mechanics "were" useful, now, a little outdated.

SB_UK

12-15-06, 06:23 PM

... what if -we- ADDers were 'artificial photosynthesis' units.
Just like trees - just moreso.

Thinking ADD thought ->- particularly hyperfocus ->- dynamo.
Imagine if we could catch the energy ~ourselves~ and then power our bits n'pieces offa' ourselves.

- It's gonna' happen guys -

~we~ are the clean energy.

:-)

Kul_ash

04-14-08, 08:50 AM

MJwatson

04-14-08, 01:55 PM

I read a Spiderman / Doc Oc reference and was going to make a (IMHO) brilliant post but then I kept reading....found myself here....feeling like I should take another bath and hack some loogies so the sun doesn't burn out.....sorry to interrupt....:)

SB_UK

04-14-08, 02:52 PM

http://online.sfsu.edu/%7Epsych200/unit5/neurone2.gif

- the second image above
-> at the interface between 2 nerves

http://www.jdaross.cwc.net/introd14.jpg

formation of the first image above -
- which then itself evolves to complexity

increased associativity

==

the image from above

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Ceratium_hirundinella.jpg/180px-Ceratium_hirundinella.jpg

explaining why this looks like an harmless man

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:wzrWieZk-lYIgM:http://www.neuropsychopathologie.fr/downloads/structure_du_neurone001.jpg

Mincan

04-14-08, 02:54 PM

Neuroscience is the bomb! I like to put on my Facebook profile that one of my interests is "neurobiochemical engineering" which is just a nice way of saying I like to alter my brain chemistry, which is itself just a nice way to say I like to take drugs. :o

SB_UK

04-14-08, 04:41 PM

~s (http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/U/UreaCycle.html)~
Uric acid is a potent antioxidant
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_C)vitamin C is made by almost all organisms, humans being the most well-known exception and is an antioxidant.
~copied with edits~
oxymoron
nitrous

~s (http://www.gwu.edu/%7Empb/c/arginine.gif)~
more nitrogenous an amino acid - one cannot find

http://www.gwu.edu/%7Empb/c/arginine.gif

and yet more nitrognus
EHNO
endothelial NO -> vasodilation (relaxation) -> reduced oxygen supply

~s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitric_oxide_synthase)~
whereby NO is produced in the reaction

arginine -> citrullineNOHLA + ½ NADPH + ½ H<sup>+</sup> + O<sub>2</sub> → <small>L</small>-citrulline + ½ NADP<sup>+</sup> + NO + H<sub>2</sub>ONO down -> good good
H2O down -> good good

NOS activates Cyclic GMP
->-
which leads to hyperpolarization
hyperpolarization -> more -> better batteries
from previously G versus A competition

purines -> adenine, guanine
cAMP and cGMP
from previously

~s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine)~
Caffeine's principal mode of action is as an antagonist of adenosine~s (http://www.gwu.edu/%7Empb/c/arginine.gif)~
more nitrogenous a coupla' friends for arginine - one could not wish to find

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Caffeine_and_adenosine.svg/350px-Caffeine_and_adenosine.svg.png

~ pattern ~

in the dwindlation of oxygenation in our collective nations -
nitrous kickin' oxymorons into 'touch'.

what's important

water
and
that we're not dead to generate it

(sweet 'ole oxygen - all the pretty things which make it and though which get in the way of our establishment morons appear to be bein' missed as our
political
legal
banking
corporate
greed mongers

drive us towards a significantly dirtier world for all of our kids
- poor little stupid rich people - ever thought of the consequences ?

nope

the polluted air, rain, germs of course will respect your period replica mansions in the country)

oh wait !!

no
- they won't will they -?-

shame ;)
(cess pit for brains)

SB_UK

04-14-08, 05:05 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamagnetism

frogs in toilets
wikiP//Frog_diamagnetic_levitation (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7b/Frog_diamagnetic_levitation.jpg/200px-Frog_diamagnetic_levitation.jpg)

However, the term "diamagnetism" was coined by Michael Faraday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Faraday) in September 1845 ... ...

water
diamagnetic paramagnetic

.O
H.H....lines up in a magnetic field -> paramagnetic

||||
||||
||||
vvvv

diamagnetic -> though lined up thanks to two opposing rotations - as shown above in the metronome image.

Balance - two opposing motions resulting in the alignment of H2O in an EM field -
- whereby the balance of alignment without apparent motion in the magnetic field -
paramagnetism

is due to the two opposing motions of the bipolar structure -
of the two motions representing the electron flows around the two H's chasing one another -
at polar opposites of an imaginary Moebius strip around the molecule.

-v(H()()H)-^

imagine that ())(()

==

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:G6Otk4nAus6EPM:http://abyss.uoregon.edu/%7Ejs/images/moebius_strip.jpg

and that

-v(H()()H)-^

are two pulses chasing one another - in effect balancing one another in whichever conformation that the electric field causes the water molecule to align in.

SB_UK

04-15-08, 07:21 AM

speciation of man

I
... ... -> caterpillar -> pupa -> butterfly -> egg ->
(http://www.butterflyhouse.com.au/images/Lifecycle.jpg)
(life cycle culminating in flight)

meaning that the organism (its wings) are capable of holding the butterfly in the air -
- once propelled into some location above the ground -
a kinda' gyroscope or helicopter type principle -
where the helicopter rotor represents just two blades -
which oppose one another in three dimensional space.

(physiology)

occurs within the external (to the human body) environment

II
plasmodium falciparum (http://io.uwinnipeg.ca/%7Esimmons/16cm05/1116/28-13-PlasmodiumLifeHist-L.jpg)

(life cycle culminating in flight)

meaning that the organism (its wings) are capable of holding the butterfly in the air -
... ... ... (exactly as above) ... ... ...
which oppose one another in three dimensional space.

occurs within the

external (to the human body)
AND
internal (to the human body) environment

III
nerve - occurs within the internal (to the human body) environment

- a structure formed from the combination of spin opposition between the
Na+/K+ transporting ATPase (uses ATP)
and
H+ transporting, mitochondrial ATPase (generates ATP)

a [hunter -> <- gatherer] stability since the hunter cannot hunt non gatherable products which drive him to hunt.

(<- generic pattern from previously
- a hunter/gatherer system as two cogs turning one another)

The speciation of man arose giving the nerve the capacity to exist purely within the
internal (to the human body) environment
without need for
external (to the human body)

and hence a sensory stream (eyes, ears, touch ~etc~)

- through conferring wings to the mind - of the two opposites of
notional rrreality -> and <- notional RRReality

notional internal and notional external reality are two electrical streams which when balanced
(like two wings)
result in the internal equivalent of flight.

---tangent---

what does 'when balanced' mean?

when the conscious mind sees the basis in (notional) external reality for the components of the (restricted set of components) to imagination (the imaginary domain).

examples from ADDF recently (only the first ten to pop to mind are given) include :

---1--- vampire/werewolf (female -> <- male relationship) (geometry)

---2--- Dr Octavius/spiderman (tree of life scorpion/spider)

---3--- princess sleeping on a mattress on a pea (sensitivity)

---4--- crouching tiger - hidden dragon (crouching tiger == curve concave and hidden dragon == sharp convex) where convex and concave are duals

---5--- Event Horizon's power generator

---6--- the Mona Lisa hermaphrodite and attraction for beauty

---7--- Darth Veda as the dark Sanatana and duality to Leuk Skywalkeras 'light butterfly'

---8--- Logical Spock and Emotional Kirk as the two duals - Spock has Aspergers - emotion is necessary in dual with logic.

---9--- The spiral in Naruto <((())) (on their heads) - representing one shape - which when aligned with its partner -
forms a duality or new whole
<((()))
<((())) <((())) (rotate first)
((()))> <((()))
->-
<((()))
an evolved <((()))

---10--- The countless zillions of lyrics which we've dissected - including 'that was the river - and this is the sea' -
- as a statement of the circuit forming within us -
a river of electrical flow - of broken tributaries leading -
- when reformed - to one surging torrent which flows through us -
- we present no impediment to its flow - and have hit a check-point 'balanced structure'
in our own evolutionary meander to 'complexity'*

complexity used in strictly energetic terms - relating to potential energy of the object under scrutiny.

evolution leads to an x2 increase in energetic content using the exponential of 2

2 4 8 16 32 64

evolution of 32 -> 64 is an exponential increase in energy from perspective 2
~that is~
2^5 -> 2^6

---tangent--- ends

hence - the internal equivalent of
(life cycle culminating in flight)

not external freedom from external environment gravitational pull
- instead internal freedom from external environment pull (stimulation externally) - and the capacity for complete descent into the internal milieu.

The vacuous 'outside world' matters little - to a species which is defined by nature's definition of our collective

- our intrinsic nature -

of it being conferred upon our species

the capacity, expectation that we should aspire, life cycle fulfilment
-> to ->
no/zero external (to the human body)
material (of mass or matter)
(possessing gravitational pull - gravitational pull is within)
objects.

Material objects imprison a species defined by its desire to complete our life cycle by losing (with apprpriate structure of mind) (nurture - good education - leads to development of a structure - like DNA - which need be built - as our task for fulfillment
(fullfillment - context I - a task set for us
- though by a process which also leads to our personal sense of fulfillment (context II - related but different, subsequent to fullfillment context I (conferred by context I ))) on this planet ) for the immaterial :-) (immaterial context:'go figure') things in life.

SB_UK

04-15-08, 12:36 PM

dark is good.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith

<dl><dd>"The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way, including their quest for greater power. The only difference between the two is that the Sith are not afraid of the dark side of the Force... .. ...</dd></dl>

:-)

(ps hippy heart of darkness)

light is good.

light + dark -> dark/light is balanced

(move on ->- ->- ->-

~ eg ~

radio waves----gamma waves

..................|
..................v
..................|
..................visible light at the centre of the spectrum

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:duvYwAnrlscwBM:http://www.star.le.ac.uk/%7Esav2/blackholes/xrays/xlightScale-300.jpg

..............^
..............|
.........just here

~ larger image (http://www.star.le.ac.uk/%7Esav2/blackholes/xrays/xlightScale-300.jpg) ~ from Leeceschestershire, UKland, Europa, Galactic Central.

MJwatson

04-15-08, 01:36 PM

Dark is stronger...

Like your quote above (nice) If Jedi only use the light side and the Sith can use both, than Sith would be stronger, more powerful. He turned to the dark side because they were powerful enought to save his Love Padme Amidala (see my avatar) who died anyway. Darth ended up fulfilling the prophecy by killing Palpatine and turning back to the Light side (internally) to save his son Luke.

so..Padme says...matter doesn't matter...what matters is what matters

matter (external energy and power) doesn't matter...what matters is what matters (internal power and energy..i.e love for pademe and Luke & Leia)

Did that make any sense?

Ultimately, you can't disturb the Force (matter & energy)

SB_UK

04-15-08, 03:40 PM

good stuff

:-)

very true

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/sith2.htm

The Force is the power in the galaxy that binds everything together. Its energy flows through the blood of all living things. Certain individuals and creatures have a natural adeptness or Force sensitivity. When Force-sensitive individuals tap into this, they can unlock unimaginable power within. A powerful Force practitioner can move objects, predict the future, bend wills, move with lightning speed, and practically manipulate reality itself through the use of the Force. The Force is divided into two sides: the dark side and the light side. Each side of the Force has its unique powers, strengths, and weaknesses. Likewise, Force practitioners are divided. The Jedi use the light side of the Force, while the Sith use the dark side. Ideologically speaking, there are two questions drawing the line that divides the Force.

What is the best way to unlock the Power of the Force?
How is the Power of the Force best used?

<center>The Sith Code</center> <center> Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me. </center>

SB_UK

04-15-08, 03:50 PM

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/sith4.htm
The history of the Sith starts almost twenty-five millennia before the events of Star Wars: Episode I.

hmmm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_age

Previous Great Year (-1) 25300 BC to AD 500 Great Year -1 began roughly at the time when Neanderthal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal) Man became extinct, with Homo Sapiens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Sapiens) (modern humans) becoming the sole remaining species of the Homo genus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_genus).

SB_UK

04-15-08, 04:02 PM

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/sith6.htm

<center>Don't tell Darth Vader, but…</center> Sith is the Gaelic word for a fairy or sprite. Gaelic lore describes sith as good natured, tiny, winged creatures that live in the woods.

Darth's only a butterfly innit ???

MJwatson

04-15-08, 04:17 PM

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/sith6.htm

Darth's only a butterfly innit ???

LOL!!

There is no one line dividing the Force...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_force

The Force was divided into four aspects: the light side (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force), the dark side (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force), the Unifying Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#Potentium_and_the_Unifying_Force), and the Living Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#The_Living_Force)

RE: sensitivity
Though the Force was thought to flow through every living thing, it could only be harnessed by a minority of beings described as "Force-sensitive (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force-sensitive)". This Force-sensitivity was attributed to a high count of internal micro-organisms called midi-chlorians (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorians) that were found in a Force-sensitive's blood: the higher the count, the greater the being's potential Force ability. Force-sensitive beings were able to tap into the Force to perform acts of great skill and agility as well as control and shape the world around them. Sometimes this ability was described as having a strong Force "aura", and it is quite probable that the two traits were connected.

AHHH...Ethics....:p

Traditional Jedi were keen to keep the Force "in balance". They attempted to achieve this by destroying the Sith and denying the dark side—essentially "keeping balance" by restoring the Force to its natural state, as they viewed the dark side as "corruption". This involved the purging of negative emotions such as aggression, anger, and hatred, since they could easily bring on acceptance of the dark side. In contrast, positive emotions such as compassion and courage nurtured the light side of the Force. The Jedi Code compared such feelings and provided insight into the ethical use of the Force.

sensitivity and compassion = strength not weakness!

The Jedi viewed love as a danger best left untouched. While the passion that came with love could lead to hatred and anger—as Anakin Skywalker (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker) demonstrated in becoming a Sith because of his love for Padmé Amidala (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Padm%C3%A9_Amidala); it could also lead to pity, self-sacrifice and compassion, emotions the Sith did not see as beneficial, as demonstrated by Darth Vader in sacrificing himself to save his son from the Emperor at the end of his life.

One might speculate that this indicates that love was the true binding factor between the light and the dark. Neither the Jedi nor the Sith accepted the views of the other, however.

Now I know why you do all those arrows and highlights......:p:D

SB_UK

04-15-08, 04:42 PM

http://www.apollon.uio.no/artikler/2007_4/Bilder/livetstre_illustrasjon200.jpg
~s (http://www.apollon.uio.no/vis/art/2007_4/Artikler/The_Tree_of_Life)~

• Plants (green and red algae, and plants)
light side (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force)

• Opisthokonts (amoebas, fungi, and all animals—including humans)
living Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#The_Living_Force)

• Excavates (free-living organisms and parasites)
dark side (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force)

• SAR (the new main group, an abbreviation of Stramenophiles, Alveolates, and Rhizaria, the names of some of its members)

unifying Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#Potentium_and_the_Unifying_Force)
tetrahedral

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Ceratium_hirundinella.jpg/180px-Ceratium_hirundinella.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolate
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 1px inset ;" class="alt2"> The Apicomplexa and dinoflagellates may be more closely related to each other than to the ciliates. Both have plastids, and most share a bu-n-dle or cone of microtubules at the top of the cell. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
-<-< hunter
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 1px inset ;" class="alt2"> In apicomplexans this forms part of a complex used to enter host cells, </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
->-)gatherer
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td style="border: 1px inset ;" class="alt2"> while in some colorless dinoflagellates it forms a peduncle used to ingest prey. </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
midi-chlorians
midi-chlorians

unifying Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#Potentium_and_the_Unifying_Force)
parasitic Stramenophiles....\
parasitic Alveolates.........- - - -> noiman the noivous woim
parasitic Rhizaria............../

LOL!!

There is no one line dividing the Force...
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_force

The Force was divided into four aspects: the light side (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force), the dark side (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_side_of_the_Force), the Unifying Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#Potentium_and_the_Unifying_Force), and the Living Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#The_Living_Force)

RE: sensitivity
Though the Force was thought to flow through every living thing, it could only be harnessed by a minority of beings described as "Force-sensitive (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force-sensitive)". This Force-sensitivity was attributed to a high count of internal micro-organisms called midi-chlorians (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Midi-chlorians) that were found in a Force-sensitive's blood: the higher the count, the greater the being's potential Force ability. Force-sensitive beings were able to tap into the Force to perform acts of great skill and agility as well as control and shape the world around them. Sometimes this ability was described as having a strong Force "aura", and it is quite probable that the two traits were connected.

AHHH...Ethics....:p

Traditional Jedi were keen to keep the Force "in balance". They attempted to achieve this by destroying the Sith and denying the dark side—essentially "keeping balance" by restoring the Force to its natural state, as they viewed the dark side as "corruption". This involved the purging of negative emotions such as aggression, anger, and hatred, since they could easily bring on acceptance of the dark side. In contrast, positive emotions such as compassion and courage nurtured the light side of the Force. The Jedi Code compared such feelings and provided insight into the ethical use of the Force.

sensitivity and compassion = strength not weakness!

The Jedi viewed love as a danger best left untouched. While the passion that came with love could lead to hatred and anger—as Anakin Skywalker (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Anakin_Skywalker) demonstrated in becoming a Sith because of his love for Padmé Amidala (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Padm%C3%A9_Amidala); it could also lead to pity, self-sacrifice and compassion, emotions the Sith did not see as beneficial, as demonstrated by Darth Vader in sacrificing himself to save his son from the Emperor at the end of his life.

One might speculate that this indicates that love was the true binding factor between the light and the dark. Neither the Jedi nor the Sith accepted the views of the other, however.

Now I know why you do all those arrows and highlights......:p:D

SB_UK

04-15-08, 04:58 PM

http://www.scientificblogging.com/files/Biology%20supergroups.jpg

better picture

SB_UK

04-15-08, 05:26 PM

apicomplexan parasites move and actively enter host cells by substrate-dependent gliding motility, an unusual form of eukaryotic locomotion that differs fundamentally from the motility of prokaryotic and viral pathogens.

hairs --->

The hairs which define stramenopiles are a distinctive subset of hairs encountered in protists, and are distinguished by having a long hollow shaft that gives rise to a small number of fine hairs

<--- hairs

so

<--- hairs hairs --->
(balance)

rhizaria
microtubule-supported pseudopods

( ) ( )

pseudopods walk -
using the balance of their spin state opposition balanced rotating cilia / flagellar systems.

SB_UK

04-15-08, 05:33 PM

apicomplexan
hairs --->

stramenopiles
<--- hairs

so

<--- hairs hairs --->
(balance)

rhizaria
microtubule-supported pseudopods

( ) ( )
pseudopods walk

III
nerve - occurs within the internal (to the human body) environment

- a structure formed from the combination of spin opposition between the
Na+/K+ transporting ATPase (uses ATP)
and
H+ transporting, mitochondrial ATPase (generates ATP)

<--- hairs hairs --->
pseudopods walk

<--- ATP ATP --->
neuro plastic walk (also)

and are successful if <--- ATP ATP ---> dual with vibrant reality representational verve

MJwatson

04-15-08, 05:38 PM

The Rakatan (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rakata) Force (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force)-enabled hyperdrives allowed them to travel to hyperspace (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hyperspace).
The ysalamiri (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Ysalamir) were a species of tree-dwelling slug-like creatures that were immune to effects of the Force. The creatures exuded a "bubble" which "pushes back" Force energy, making them useful tools for individuals (such as Grand Admiral (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Admiral) Thrawn (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mitth%27raw%27nuruodo)) requiring a means to nullify a Jedi's abilities. They originated on the world of Myrkr (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Myrkr). It is mentioned that the ysalamir, when put together, create a much more extensive bubble, sometimes expanding a few kilometers outside their native forest. They evolved this trait to survive being hunted by the predatory vornskrs (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Vornskr), pack animals that hunted by tracking down live prey using the Force.
A creature with a similar peculiarity was the taozin (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Taozin), a large, gelatinous predator. Though not widely known, at least one of these creatures was alive deep in the undercity of Coruscant approximately ten years before the Clone Wars.<SUP class=reference id=_ref-0>[1] (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Force#_note-0)</SUP>
While not immune to the Force, Hutts (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Hutt) were highly resistant, having an innate defense against Force-based mind manipulation.
Toydarians (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Toydarians), likely due to their genetic relation to Hutts, were immune to mind tricks as well. The Yinchorri (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Yinchorri) and the Dashades (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dashade) were also largely unaffected by Force mental manipulation, and were thus both utilized to varying degrees by the Emperor; the Yinchorri during the period surrounding the Stark Hyperspace War (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Stark_Hyperspace_War) and the Dashadi during the first few years following the Great Jedi Purge.
Additionally, Force-resistant creatures called terentateks (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Terentatek) were a major threat to the Jedi. Some suspected that they were created by the Sith (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith) to hunt down the Jedi. Periodically, the Jedi held a Great Hunt (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Hunt) in an attempt to hunt down and destroy all of the terentateks. The monsters appeared to be extremely long-lived and resilient.
Although not natural, voxyn (http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Voxyn) could hunt Jedi and other Force users by picking up on their "Force scent."

MJwatson

04-15-08, 05:41 PM

AAAAAHHHH, this didn't come out right bit it was supposed to link these critters in blue to the 4 subgroups and the hunter /gatherer/scents from another thread.
It was brilliant....hang on..:) You can probably do it faster though...;)

qinkin

04-15-08, 08:38 PM

In real science, midi-chlorians appear to be based on mitochondria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrion), which were once separate organisms that inhabited living cells and have since become part of them. Mitochondria are the power plants of cells, suggesting that perhaps midi-chlorians create the energy of life and thus the Force. Unlike midi-chlorians, which in the Skywalker family are passed on by both father and mother, mitochondrial DNA is only transmitted on the maternal side.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h_RJFZn4WU

The electron transport chain (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_transport_chain) is located in the cristae (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristae) of the inner mitochondrial membrane. The NADH and FADH2 produced by the citric acid cycle in the matrix release a proton and electron to regenerate NAD+ and FAD+. The proton is pulled into the intermembrane space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermembrane_space) by the energy of the electrons going through the electron transport chain. The electron is finally accepted by oxygen in the matrix. The protons return to the mitochondrial matrix through the process of chemiosmosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemiosmosis) through the protein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein) ATP synthase (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_synthase).

and are successful if <--- ATP ATP ---> dual with vibrant reality representational verve

dedicating to everybody on ADDF:)

SB_UK

04-16-08, 04:19 AM

you know what -
this is just *too* freaky

:-)

Cause of ADD

a :eek: basic urge

:eek:------>:p
->-
:eek:--->:p
->-
;):p
:p;)

-*-

man o->
carbonaceous chondrites olivining down to earth - to be causght by
woman +o
substrate, stability, order, replication of male meanderings into 'better

o-> ......()+

..o-> ....()+

....o-> ..()+

......o->()+
........'doink'

man o-> male

woman +o female

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igneous_rock)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
mafic rock, lesser content of silicon relative to felsic rocks, with predominance of mafic minerals pyroxenes, olivines and calcic plagioclase; these rocks (example, basalt, gabbro) are usually dark coloured, and have a higher density than felsic rocks.

felsic rock, highest content of silicon, with predominance of quartz, alkali feldspar and/or feldspathoids: the felsic minerals; these rocks (e.g., granite, rhyolite) are usually light coloured, and have low density.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

malefic rock, lesser content of silicon (basic not acidic) (affinity for silver - remarkable chemical properties - though doesn't want to share - in wikiP -) relative to felsic rocks, with predominance of mafic minerals pyroxenes, olivines (less stable - contribution of change) (affinity for dark jewels - onyx,haematite) and calcic plagioclase; these rocks (example, basalt, gabbro) are usually dark coloured skin (like werewolves), and have a higher density (heavier) than felsic rocks.

basic igneous rocks have low silica 45 - 52% and typically high iron - magnesium content (example gabbro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabbro) and basalt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basalt))

femalelsic rock, highest content of silicon (acidic not basic) (affinity for gold - in wikiP - transfer of energy using quantum chemistry - giving birth), with predominance of quartz (affinity for transparent jewels - diamonds), alkali feldspar and/or feldspathoids: the felsic minerals; these rocks (e.g., granite (stability - resistant to change - such that only change for the better is accepted), rhyolite) are usually light coloured skin (like vampires), and have low density (lighter).

acid igneous rocks containing a high silica content, greater than 63% SiO<sub>2</sub> (examples granite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite) and rhyolite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhyolite))

SB_UK

04-16-08, 05:05 AM

|
v

silver

hot

+ gold -> trivalency

silver _\ gold /_
........./........\

silver _\ gold /_>
........./........\

silver _\ gold /_ -> energy
........./........\

whereby
---> ---- /^
---> ---- /|
---> ---- /|
--- > ---> /

> > /
are 2 metalevels

and
^

is effectively an evolved
>

(participates in the same process)

SB_UK

04-16-08, 05:29 AM

mitochondria

midi - chlor ians

~s (http://lib.bioinfo.pl/auth:Armstrong,JS)~
chlorine species induced mitochondrial permeabilization

chlorosis

HCl (stomach)

~s (http://ajpregu.physiology.org/cgi/content/abstract/238/3/R246)~
In seawater eels the efflux of sodium (and chloride) across the gill is<sup> </sup> directly proportional to the activity of Na-K-ATPase in homogenates.

fish sweating salt

fish exercising (working hard)
->
[ Na-K-ATPase -> <- ATP generation ]
->
fish sweating salt

A system only gets to do work -
- if it has something to do work against

- if a wheel turns - it transfers its energy -
- only if another wheel exists (in opposition) -
to transduce that energy.

A clockwork mechanism
in which one winds the watch up - and the hands of the watch move
via a series of interconnecting cogs -

o > < o

one turns the other -

and unlike in the case of 'life'
- after a while the watch need be turned

in the case of life - the Moebius defines that either which way the operation works

sacchades -> when eyes are open

REM sleep -> sacchades

Principle -
oscillation built in

Evolution builds oscillators -
which may then move backwards or forwards -

- one turning the other
whilst the other can turn the one.

A watch in which the hands turning -
- also winds the watch.

A watch in which the hands may run forwards or backwards.

Rotating disc ->-
o >>

rotating because of a connection to the fundamental energetic supply of all things -
an electrical circuit within

o >>
is the same as
<< o

(basis to evolution from previously)
- though common sense that a rotating ring can simply be flipped in 3d space - to generate a rotating ring which is rotating in spin state opposition to its original spin state

o >>
->-
<< o

SB_UK

04-16-08, 05:33 AM

so - it's all about two metalevels -

)(

defining one another

- they provide friction :-)

for each to work against - since all interactions need be defined by generating 'antagonistic' forces - which when balanced -
form a single system of two duals -
a unit (duality) -

- which itself becomes a unit - or dual seeking other dual
to make duality.

The basis to
bilateria
antagonistic musculature of the human body
man woman

everything really :-)

convex concave

and the evolution of all things by cycling Koch curve style through geometric dualities to energetic complexity
-> the second law of thermodynamics.

SB_UK

04-16-08, 09:02 AM

..........gold..............................silver

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Dy1gojGKTUoSTM:http://loudsign.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/gold.jpg.........http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:gbUbsIr3WVFIoM:http://lcdremixed.com/images/SoundsLikeSilverFront.jpg

.......copper.............................iron

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:VsyMHWsHJTqV7M:http://www.santafealliance.com/giftstore/images/copper_lg.jpg................http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:_GPljkaR52i5FM:http://www.webelements.com/webelements/elements/media/callet/Fe.jpg

............sun.................................mo on

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:NLu9YB-3rBA7fM:http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg...........http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:HylWfHvnpc2WfM:http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_full-moon.jpg

SB_UK

04-16-08, 10:27 AM

full moon + man -> werewolf + silver bullet -> death

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire
Porphyria was also linked with legends of vampirism in 1985

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria)Lupus erythematosus features photosensitivity, pain attacks and shares various other symptoms with porphyria.

systemic Lupus erythematosus -> wolf-> werewolf
porphyria -> vampire

photosensitivity -> werewolf and vampire (dracula) -> creatures of the night

garlic,ginger,onion -> werewolf food (heats)
garlic, ginger, onion -> repels vampires

silver moon -> creatures of the night (gamma radiation)
yellow sun -> IR (heat) -> UV radiation (DNA mutation at eg altitude)

copper (yellow) + tin (silver) -> stronger than iron

UV + melanin (skin pigment) -> darkening
in the absence of UV light
-> lightening

charge -> discharge cycles with environmental radiation

like a battery -

melanin -> neuromelanin in the brain
charge -> discharge cycles
with stronger more penetrating radiation (gamma rays) because of deep (and not superficial) location

melanin -> POMC expression within the hypothalamus/pituitary -> neuromelanin within the substantia nigra

moon -> gamma rays -> charge the newly nocturnal species of man who cannot particularly go out during the day -
- though come alive at night

night time rocks!
especially for those of us with a tendency to overheat - (UCP (uncoupling protein) systems within the mitochodria for heat rather than ATP synthesis - hibernation)
night time is cool :-)

fat deposition -> UCP system to help hibernating animals through Winter

reverse (through drive to meditate and not move) - with wisdom and
mitochondria switch from ATP production, to heat generation -
less fat burnt - more deposited -
lower metabolic rates -
less food required

A kinda' slowdown to increase longevity -
heart rate decreases also -

neurotransmission favoured through use of mind and not body

switch to nocturnal pattern -
loss of circadian rhythms -
early morning cortisol hit to mobilize carbs -
being lost

switch away from usage of carbohydrates (especially simple carbs) for energy -
a primitive energy source.

carbs -> fat -> protein (for energy)

protein -> phenylalanine/arginine (coca leaves) -> cocaine with kola plant (caffeine) + arginine + phenylalanine
-> coca cola
+ carbon dioxide

carbon dioxide + water -> carbonic acid
+
arginine (N source) -> base

->
acid + base

dopamine - biogenic amine -> basis to evolution of man.
dopamine levels I, II and III.

circadian production of phenylalanine, arginine and cocaine in
~eg~
~s (http://www.cocaine.org/erythroxylum/index.html)~
Diurnal fluctuation of cocaine occurred during the 24 h cycle. Cocaine was highest in leaves of E. coca at 8 and 16 h. Arginine and phenylalanine in leaves of E. coca also displayed diurnal rhythmic patterns of fluctuation.

mitochondria ->
midi-chlorians ->
give off the smell of chlorine.
->
Chlorine -> fluorine -
the only gas more reactive than oxygen.

vertical column periodic table

cupper
silver
gold

MJwatson

04-16-08, 11:08 AM

full moon + man -> werewolf + silver bullet -> death

I am liking this part today

SB_UK

04-16-08, 12:08 PM

highlighted terms as such

dodecahedra (pentagonal faces) - creating the impression of a hexagon when regarded face on

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Sma7IqvV9qCtMM:http://www.unifiedworlds.com/dodecahedron.jpg

<- appears 6-sided

where

apparently hexagonal structures are seen
?(packed columnar dodecahredra)?

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:B14_qX2vDdBJiM:http://worldbridgermedia.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/honey-comb.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Giants_causeway_closeup.jpg/200px-Giants_causeway_closeup.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basalt
Basalt is a common mafic extrusive volcanic rock.
Basalt is usually gray to black
and fine-grained due to rapid cooling of lava at the surface of a planet.
Basalt may be porphyritic containing larger crystals in a fine matrix, or vesicular, or frothy scoria. Columnar basaltcolumnar
chain elongation
polymerization
stage 3 -> 4 of (3->4->13d)n
Vishnu (vir - virus)
clonal expansion
the growth of the trunk of the tree
ma(le)fic
extrusive as in o-> (tryin' to get some place) - hunter - convex

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2d/Ceratium_hirundinella.jpg/180px-Ceratium_hirundinella.jpg

alveolate

Having a honeycombed surface.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolata
The most notable shared characteristic is the presence of cortical alveoli, flattened vesicles packed into a continuous layer supporting the membrane ... ...> =======<
==>====<
> =======<

roots - trunk - crown

Next

bronchus - bronchioles - alveoli of lung (cortical)
similarly vesicles -
air gaps supporting the external surface of the lung -
pleural membrane

Noting
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Gray965.png/250px-Gray965.png<- similar to an insect (the opposite to the butterfly) (the moth with its wings in)

==

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ULpcSUdB1CKekM:http://entweb.clemson.edu/museum/moths/exotic/moth1.jpg

Darth Maul (sith)
a butterfly of the night - moth

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:w5_FnGQpZmgFQM:http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/uploaded_images/MothClosedDSCF5354-724386.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:koB5EIiMPdhfxM:http://www.turaz.net/turaz_zhao/speciali/archeologia/swstuff/DarthMaul2.jpg

luke skywalker - light, flight

->-

butterfly

point

The moth is the butterfly turned inside out -
light (butterfly) and dark (moth)

SB_UK

04-16-08, 12:16 PM

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Gray965.png/250px-Gray965.png

==

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:e5yNUXaERJzF1M:http://www.abc.net.au/science/scribblygum/February2001/img/f_cicada21.jpg <- rotate 90 degrees counter-clockwise

==

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:eKFX9SIDMmg-PM:http://www.advancedforecasting.com/weathereducation/images/chaos.jpg <- rotate 180 degrees counter-clockwise

~*~

werewolves
heat

uncoupling proteins

mitochondria
(microbial origins)

silver -> abiotic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver
Silver ions and silver compounds show a toxic effect on some bacteria, viruses, algae and fungi ... ... ...

point

The moth is the butterfly turned inside out -
light (butterfly) and dark (moth)

SB_UK

04-16-08, 12:28 PM

point

The moth is the butterfly turned inside out -
light (butterfly) and dark (moth)

light
..+....... -> evolution by duality
dark

MJwatson

04-16-08, 12:55 PM

Very nicely done! :)

SB_UK

04-16-08, 01:57 PM

I am liking this part today

Due to their high energy content, gamma rays can cause serious damage when absorbed by living cells.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:U3AbjfGZofYZkM:http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/3000/2267/180838-hulk_400.jpg

+ gamma rays

sends the physicist ADDF::Lars into

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:C99OhH_-U-ZoQM:http://www.microwaves101.com/encyclopedia/images/biological%2520effects/hulk.jpg

urgent need of a lycra wardrobe

whereby

energy + thing

->-

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:l4JIJ7hZ3o8J:www.publicedcenter.org/images/mushroom-cloud.jpg

unless

http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/%7Eregan/quasar.jpg

whereby the input energy drives evolutionary process -
a structure is formed from input energetic stream -
and exists as long as

1-input stream drives proper structure formation (evolution)
2-the input stream is maintained

in -> spiral -> out

the pattern -
summarised as

-> metalevel in -> metalevel out

2 metalevels as

road between

a ->metalevel 1-> b ->metalevel 2-> c

a
b
c

adjacent 3d orthohonal spaces
->-
3 x 3d spaces.

Whether 'mushroom cloud' or 'quasar' is determined by presence of cog -
method of 'soaking'
using the energy

where the whole thing blows apart if the energy can't array itself into proper structure -

think

->information -> mind

data structure of mind -
NOT arrayed in proper geometry
->
mental disorder,pain,depression,anxiety ->mushroom cloud

balance the mind
otherwise

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:txOKbOuoo5p0TM:http://www.jpb.com/pictures/valpocella.jpg

SB_UK

04-16-08, 04:07 PM

...nervous train - dual 2 of duality 1
..........|
..........v
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/%7Eregan/quasar.jpg
......................................|
......................................|
......................................v
................................nervous train - dual 2 of duality 1

...............|________|
.......................|
.......................|
.......................v

wikiP/Astrocytes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrocytes)

[/URL]Calcium waves
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrocytes) Astrocytes are linked by gap junctions, creating an electrically coupled syncytium.
An increase in intracellular calcium concentration can propagate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrocytes)outwards through this syncytium.

wiki/Electroencephalography
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography) [U]Delta EEG
up to 3 Hz
frontally in adults, posteriorly in children
adults slow wave sleep

wikiP/NREM (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NREM)
Stages of NREM sleep
* Stage 4 - slow-wave sleep (SWS) refers to the "deepest" stage of sleep in which there is a continuation of the delta wave. Dreaming is more common in this stage than in other stages of NREM sleep though not as common as in REM sleep. The content of SWS dreams tends to be disconnected and not as vivid as those that occur during REM sleep. This is also the most common stage in which parasomnias occur.

A parasomnia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_sex)
It is a mind/body disconnect that occurs during sleep.

->-

social <-> [mental <-> physical] <->
in sleep - neural stimulation
[mental -> physical]
fails to satisfy

and so
[social <-> mental] <-X-> physical] <->
[social <-> mental]

global consciousness is go
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:NJhzvwNqH5Fa3M:http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/protectedimage.php%3Fimage%3DJamesGray/cap006.JPG

:-)

SB_UK

04-16-08, 04:07 PM

incidentally -
nothing to do with explosive pungescent feline butts.

thank you.

SB_UK

04-16-08, 04:11 PM

(thunderbirds)

that will be all Lady Penelope.

SB_UK

04-16-08, 04:24 PM

http://kimolsen.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/thirdeye.gif
.......................|
...................../
.................../
................./
.............../
............./
.........../
..........|
..........v
http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/%7Eregan/quasar.jpg

SB_UK

04-16-08, 06:56 PM

http://www.crossroadsinstitute.org/eeg.html

highlighting added

<center>Brain Wave Frequencies
</center> Delta (0.1 to 3 Hz) http://www.crossroadsinstitute.org/images2/delta.gif

The lowest frequencies are delta. These are less than 4 Hz and occur in deep sleep and in some abnormal processes also during experiences of "empathy state". Delta waves are involved with our ability to integrate and let go. It reflects unconscious mind.
It is the dominant rhythm in infants up to one year of age and it is present in stages 3 and 4 of sleep.
It tends to be the highest in amplitude and the slowest waves. We increase Delta waves in order to decrease our awareness of the physical world. We also access information in our unconscious mind through Delta.
Peak performers decrease Delta waves when high focus and peak performance are required.
However, most individuals diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder, naturally increase rather than decrease Delta activity when trying to focus. The inappropriate Delta response often severely restricts the ability to focus and maintain attention. It is as if the brain is locked into a perpetual drowsy state.
Another way to look at Delta is to imagine you are driving in a car and you shift into 1st gear....you're not going to get anywhere very fast. So Delta would represent 1st gear.

Delta (0.1-3 Hz):Distribution: generally broad or diffused may be bilateral, widespread
Subjective feeling states: deep, dreamless sleep, non-REM sleep, trance, unconscious
Associated tasks & behaviors: lethargic, not moving, not attentive
Physiological correlates: not moving, low-level of arousal
Effects of training: can induce drowsiness, trance, deeply relaxed states

qinkin

04-17-08, 10:50 AM

me=alpha male***:cool::D

i think i cut my thumb last night @work during a Beta drive=hospitalvisit at 1am

Beta would represent overdrive or hyperdrive

However, most individuals diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder, naturally increase rather than decrease Delta activity when trying to focus.
screw focusing:)
driving, out of focus:(

Tracy H.

04-17-08, 11:05 AM

me=alpha male***:cool::D

i think i cut my thumb last night @work during a Beta drive=hospitalvisit at 1am

screw focusing:)
driving, out of focus:(

CRIKEY Q! I was thought AMYKINS hurt herself, and I was thinking, "you didn't say anything this afternoon" :p

that damn avatar of yours!!!!

and the laws of energy don't need to change :) I have enough energy thanks

MJwatson

04-17-08, 11:21 AM

Darth Maul (sith)
a butterfly of the night - moth

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:w5_FnGQpZmgFQM:http://sugarmtnfarm.com/blog/uploaded_images/MothClosedDSCF5354-724386.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:koB5EIiMPdhfxM:http://www.turaz.net/turaz_zhao/speciali/archeologia/swstuff/DarthMaul2.jpg

luke skywalker - light, flight

->-

butterfly

point

The moth is the butterfly turned inside out -
light (butterfly) and dark (moth)


LOVE IT! Those pics are so cool together!!!!

silver -> abiotic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Silver ions and silver compounds show a toxic effect on some bacteria, viruses, algae and fungi ... ... ... </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
point

The moth is the butterfly turned inside out -
light (butterfly) and dark (moth)

**Tip**
You can get colloidal silver at a Natural store and use it for colds and stuff

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">http://www.crossroadsinstitute.org/eeg.html </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
highlighting added **noticed. thank you....**

I am totally Delta working towards a Theta....

So What is the term "Alpha Male" supposed to mean...the 'slang' version.. I thought it meant the boss...the leader of the group..

How can you be an out of focus Alpha male? (Maybe I need to re-read that link.)

Did you cut your thumb on anything radioactive or toxic? If so, we need to consider the possibility of Super Powers and their effect on your energy matter.....

qinkin

04-17-08, 12:09 PM

So What is the term "Alpha Male" supposed to mean...the 'slang' version.. I thought it meant the boss...the leader of the group..

i was jus' bein' a fruitty..

avatar of yours!!!!
of amykins!! muahaha

SB_UK

04-17-08, 02:18 PM

EEG
alpha (high freq) -> <- delta (low freq) [not lower energy - just seemingly so - as
our frame of reference switches into an orthogonal 3d space]

alpha (high freq) -> -> delta (low freq) (tending to zero along the frame of refernece of alpha)
alpha (high freq) ->\
alpha (high freq) ->|
alpha (high freq) ->v
alphadelta waves (energy have turned a corner) - and so need
alphabe examined using a different frame of reference to alpha -
alphaan orthogonal domain with respect to alpha - as evolution
alphaproceeds - we would expect to see a progression to freq = 0 along
alpha-> this frame of reference ->
alphaas evolution proceeds to completion -
alphaat completion - there will appear to be a transition to zero on the original frame of reference. No rate of change - as domain is switched.

This observation is of some note in the
and from above :-)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:duvYwAnrlscwBM:http://www.star.le.ac.uk/%7Esav2/blackholes/xrays/xlightScale-300.jpg
..............^
..............|
.........just here
~ larger image (http://www.star.le.ac.uk/%7Esav2/blackholes/xrays/xlightScale-300.jpg) ~ from Leeceschestershire, UKland, Europa, Galactic Central.
alpha EEG ->

alpha EEG ->
a.lpha EEG -|
al.pha EEdelta EEG

alpha EEG (high freq) ->
alp.ha EEG -(high freq) |
alph.a EEG -(high freq) v
alpha EE(high freq) delta EEG (low freq)

gamma wave (high freq) ->
a.lpha E.EG -(high freq....) |
al.pha EE.G -(high freq).... v
alpha EE(.high freq) radio wave (low freq)

eversions
- like man and woman

qinkin -> <- amykin
amykin -> <- qinkinwhere
:-)

and then there was 'beat'

~ a paraphrase ~
- in the absence of knowing how on Earth to locate the original post on this god forsaken site

lub dub
lub dub
lubba dub dub
dubba lub dub

rubber lubbers in an electrolytic tub

:-)

will this do?

post number 420,228 (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=420228&highlight=sound#post420228)

ya well, this thread is going to hell . . . ooo a theme !

:-)

rubber lubbersand

post number 420,228 (again) (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=420228&highlight=sound#post420228)

Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> suckin' on </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
ooh explicit lyrics

qinkin is a bad boy -
very very bad

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Njw1qMMSCdAJ:upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7d/Geek_rubber_duck.jpg/531px-Geek_rubber_duck.jpg physics is good.

on a scale from one to ten
he scores very bad

very very bad man

oooo yes.

SB_UK

04-17-08, 02:29 PM

http://www.mbarron.net/Nile/sat-delta.jpg

alpha river -> theta ADDer -> sea (the sea) (the sea)

Waterboys
That was the river - and this is the ->- (http://www.lyricsfreak.com/w/waterboys/this+is+the+sea_20145311.html)

But that was the river
the river
the river

the river
the river
the river

the river
the river
the river

And this is the

{{{.s.e.a .}}}

MJwatson

04-17-08, 03:31 PM

EEG
alpha (high freq) -> <- delta (low freq) [not lower energy - just seemingly so - as
our frame of reference switches into an orthogonal 3d space]

alpha (high freq) -> -> delta (low freq) (tending to zero along the frame of refernece of alpha)

at completion - there will appear to be a transition to zero on the original frame of reference. No rate of change - as domain is switched.

You guys make me feel like the nerdy guy in National Treasure always having to look stuff up!

So, the Energy-is the frequencies- transmitted at high to low levels- thusly traveling to nowhere because they will eventually meet orthogonal domain = 0 So basically we can go no farther with this.?

and Q is a very bad duck..:D

SB_UK

04-17-08, 03:32 PM

<table><tbody><tr><td>radio -> gamma
.........|
.........v
.......light
.........^
.........|
delta <- gamma
.........|
.........v
.......theta

electromagnetism
3 orthogonal domains

Type</td><td>Frequency (Hz)</td></tr><tr><td>Delta</td><td>up to 3</td></tr><tr><td>Theta</td><td>4 - 7 Hz</td></tr><tr><td>Alpha</td><td>8 - 12 Hz</td></tr><tr><td>Beta</td><td>12 - 30 Hz</td></tr><tr><td>Gamma</td><td>26–100</td></tr></tbody></table>
delta - 8^0 .............== 1
theta - 8............. ... == 8
gamma - 8^2 - 64.... == 64

== 1.....(2^3)^0
== 8.....(2^3)^1
== 64...(2^3)^2

64 Hz (evolutionary predecessor dopaminergic circuit firing rate (in animal))
->
8 Hz (dopaminergic circuit firing in man)
.........|
.........v
.......theta EEG

where theta is the

:-) <-> (.) <-> (o:

{{{.s.e.a }}}

SB_UK

04-17-08, 03:49 PM

You guys make me feel like the nerdy guy in National Treasure always having to look stuff up!

So, the Energy-is the frequencies- transmitted at high to low levels- thusly traveling to nowhere because they will eventually meet orthogonal domain = 0 So basically we can go no farther with this.?

oh no
- no no

no -

- oh no !!!
we can go no farther only if we do not wise up

we can go no fartherunless we figger that if we're chasing a baddie alien badass criminal called Bertrand -
and Bertrand the badass hangs a left in his stolen Daihatsu Abomination -

that we should also take a left turn
(if we're interested in
actually earning the
admittedly
peanut (of nuts can we but dream) that the 'state' pays us for putting our lives on the line out there on the streets of Vice City, Coventry, downtown England).

that we should also take a left turn -
- because if we
(instead)
were to continue in a straight line -
well
one might consider oneself very fortunate
(indeed)
to catch the naughty alien Bertrand badass perp criminal fiend at the wheel of a sensible family car in the suburbs.

convergent evolutionand Q is a very badCount Duke duckola o'grand Duchy o'Dukakis (rich in aromatic spices) - a pungent aromatic duck

mesolimbic quark on intravenous lysergic drip

duck ..:D

SB_UK

04-18-08, 01:11 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra

According to Tantra, being-consciousness-bliss--------------------------------------------------
brahman input dual [orthogonal feed] into our space
--------------------------------------------------
..|
..v
{{{be}}}-><-{{{ing}}}
........|
........v
.consciousness............{{{consci}}}-><-{{{ousness}}}
.................................................. ...|
.................................................. ...v
.................................................. .bliss.....................{{{bl}}}-><-{{{iss}}}
.................................................. .................................................. .^
.................................................. .................................................. .|
.................................................. ............................----------------------------------------------------
.................................................. ............................brahman output dual [orthogonal feed] into our space
.................................................. ............................----------------------------------------------------

3 stages
evolution of a ring circuit offa' mains

____________________________________

.....................mains electricity
____________________________________
...........|__|_________________|..|
...........|__|_________________|..|
...........|__|_________________|..|
.evolution stage 1______evolution stage 3
...........|__|_________________|..|
...........|__|_________________|..|
...........|___ evolution stage 2 ___|
.

where........

____________________________________
...........|__|_________________|..|

==
__________________
...........||..||

(really)
:-)

->-

reality is (thanks to ADDF ::) Tracy

(time-permitting)
:-)

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j132/sb_camsci/duality.gif

SB_UK

04-18-08, 01:38 PM

http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/dna0.gif

6 5 6

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Sma7IqvV9qCtMM:http://www.unifiedworlds.com/dodecahedron.jpg

side on - the 3d dodecahedron looks like a hexagon (6 circles emerging from those six sides) - if squashed into two dimensions

end on - the 3d dodecahedron looks like a pentagon
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:403LVrhrUhzDbM:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Dodecahedron.svg/375px-Dodecahedron.svg.png

generating the Luminet dodecahedral tiling pattern of 3d dodecahedra
- then -
(and from ADDF :: 'chit-chat' :: pi thread and whilst :-) in puy d'Ail des Oignons, Massif Central brioche, la France)

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:_CyQRBjA0WykxM:http://www.ams.org/mathmedia/images/DodecahedralTiling.jpg

Science in culture : Article : Nature (http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v426/n6964/full/426232a.html)
But Jean-Pierre Luminet, the lead author of a recent paper on the topology ... based on Poincaré dodecahedral space, as already envisaged in Luminet's book ...
www.nature.com/nature/journal/<wbr>v426/n6964/full/426232a.html - <nobr>Similar pages (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=related:www.nature.com/nature/journal/v426/n6964/full/426232a.html)
</nobr>

where

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:_CyQRBjA0WykxM:http://www.ams.org/mathmedia/images/DodecahedralTiling.jpg
==
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/dna0.gif

if we remember that

(i) chemical thingies are three dimensional - and not flat (2d) (as they appear on the page)

(ii) the dodecahedron can look as though it's a 2-dimensional hexagon or 2-dimensional pentagon -
- dependent on the perspective of the observer relative to the dodecahedron

(iii) the idea of real and complex (3 dimensional) spaces -
- in context of stacked dedecahedra -
are simply an end-on pentagon -
stuck side-on - onto another dodecahedron -
and the another dodecahedron - will extend by one of its two ends (the real/imaginary space idea) - in turn
doing this
its

are simply an end-on pentagon -
stuck side-on - onto another dodecahedron -
making 3

muaha one
muaha two
muaha three

muahahaha three

{{{credits}}}

this reality was sponsored by trinity, the number three and was filmed using a tripod.

SB_UK

04-18-08, 02:17 PM

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:Sma7IqvV9qCtMM:http://www.unifiedworlds.com/dodecahedron.jpg

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:bkzXbTv9HOCfPM:http://i12.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/96/16/ef_1.JPG

physicists wear real pants

mathematicians (however) prefer the imaginary variety

mathematical physicists wear theirs until dirty
- and then turn 'em inside out (and use 'em some more)

the most innovative mathematical physicists find that abrasive brown corduroy trousers can extend the wear-to-wash period from months to years -

- although unlikely to be substantiated - physicists often talk about one of their kind who it is believed retained the same underpants from his first undergraduate course in calculus

- all the way to the grave -

- the man in question lived a long and satisfying life - and it is often quipped amongst the cognoscenti that
'whoever discovers the
exact abstract relationship between human longevity and longevity of friction-borne elastic distension in well-worn pants
will become a very rich man
(a very rich (and powerful) man indeed)'

MJwatson

04-18-08, 02:44 PM

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">Originally Posted by Count Duke Qin Kin ton
muaha one
muaha two
muaha three
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
muahahaha three

{{{credits}}}

this reality was sponsored by trinity, the number three and was filmed using a tripod.

a Sesame Street reference?? I like it!

physicists wear real pants

mathematicians (however) prefer the imaginary variety

mathematical physicists wear theirs until dirty
- and then turn 'em inside out (and use 'em some more)

I am going to need to know if we are talking about mathmatical Physics. That will now have a huge impact on my contributions to this thread! :)

those are the ugliest underwear I have ever seen!!!!! ug!

ok not to backtrack..but you are too fast for me...

:-) <-> (.) <-> (o:

{{{.s.e.a}}}

so delta is lowest and Gamma is highest... the meet in the middle at theta? is that right?

I have seen those arrows all the time...what to they mean? What does the sea mean? What do I mean? ;)

SB_UK

04-18-08, 03:43 PM

dirty underpantsmathmatical Physics ?unlikely

... ... the underlying problem may be solved by decomposition.

DC became better with their adult range.

I did not know that DC were Brit-landed into darkness

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Comics

Meanwhile, British writer Alan Moore had re-energized the minor horror series Saga of the Swamp Thing mature-readers imprint., and his acclaimed work sparked the comic book equivalent of rock music's British Invasion. Numerous British writers, including Neil Gaiman and Grant Morrison, began freelancing for the company. The resulting influx of sophisticated horror and dark fantasy material led not only to DC abandoning the Comics Code for particular titles scripted by those talents, but also to establishing in 1993 the Vertigo

MJwatson

04-18-08, 06:14 PM

:-) <-> (.) <-> (o:

ok like the dot product = 0 and the vectors meet at the dot One tangent and one perpendicular/normal

S is the surface unit E is the euclidean (pythagorean theorum) and a is the normal vector
eversions
- like man and woman

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">qinkin -> <- amykin
amykin -> <- qinkin </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
So this represents the pythagorean theorem/Elucidean dimension a+b=c

LOL am I close at all? :D here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Britain the british version of Captain America!..Marvel Comics is the way to go!

qinkin

04-18-08, 10:09 PM

the man in question lived a long and satisfying life - and it is often quipped amongst the cognoscenti that
'whoever discovers the
exact abstract relationship between human longevity and longevity of friction-borne elastic distension in well-worn pants
will become a very rich man
(a very rich (and powerful) man indeed)'just stunned right now:o

WHAT STAYS W/US?
SENSIBLE EXPERIENCE=sound, sight, beat
*fainting goat (http://youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg)

the vanishing point (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanishing_point) are referred to as 'orthogonal lines'.
"One must rise by that by which one falls" and "the very poison that kills becomes the elixir of life when used by the wise."

SB_UK

04-19-08, 05:48 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana

Prana is a central concept in Ayurveda

->- ->- ->-

http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/49/48/22204849.jpg

..._
./
| oncave / Carpel / motion away / dual 1 of duality 1
|
.\ _

___
.......\ ...convex / Stamen / motion towards / dual 2 of duality 1
_____ /

->- ->- ->-

asexual
->- primitive mating strategy
->- Narcissus chasing his own image in his mate
->- Mitosis (clonal)
->- Narcissus -> daffodil -> bulb -> asexual
Daffodils (http://www.daffodilusa.org/daffodils/faq.html) multiply in two ways: asexual cloning (bulb division) where exact copies of the flower will result, and sexually (from seed) where new, different flowers will result.
Daffodils are predominantly associated with their pattern of asexual reproduction -
year in year out from bulbs.

sexual
->- modern mating strategy
->- 'mix it up until there are no pedigrees' < rhcp ) --
->- Meiosis == Recombination == 'Mix it up'
->- Capsicum is a genus of plants from the nightshade family (Solanaceae)

Thanks to ADDF :: lmnapl
our resident castor bean ricin - to accompany deadly night shade
and the idea of strength (virulence) of weed through necessity -
- stage 3->4
in (3->4->13d)n
and a connection into light (Sola...) versus dark(night)

sun versus moon cycles
light versus dark cycles

ADDF::reference Nature Journal publication featuring movement of worms using pulsed blue and yellow light

blue night time light (ADDF :: gamma rays) versus yellow (solar) light
sun versus moon cycles
light versus dark cycles

->- ->- ->-

http://re3.yt-thm-a04.yimg.com/image/25/f11/99778884

can't move for seeds

-*-

Ayurveda (from above) (medicinal plants including this remarkable chappy - which I personally believe tastes like the sweaty crotch of the devil himself (and do not partake) (accordingly))

->- ->- ->-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquorice

<table style="margin: 0pt auto; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; text-align: left; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td>Kingdom:</td> <td>Plantae
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Division:</td> <td>Magnoliophyta
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Class:</td> <td>Magnoliopsida
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"><td>Genus:</td> <td>Glycyrrhiza
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Species:</td> <td>G. glabra</td></tr></tbody></table>
->- ->- ->-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnolia

<table style="margin: 0pt auto; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; text-align: left; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr valign="top"> <td>Kingdom:</td> <td>Plantae
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Division:</td> <td>Magnoliophyta
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Class:</td> <td>Magnoliopsida
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Order:</td> <td>Magnoliales
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Family:</td> <td>Magnoliaceae
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Genus:</td> <td>Magnolia</td></tr></tbody></table>
->- ->- ->-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orchid

<table style="margin: 0pt auto; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 50%; text-align: left; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial;" cellpadding="2"><tbody><tr valign="top"><td>Kingdom:</td> <td>Plantae
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Division:</td> <td>Magnoliophyta
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Class:</td> <td>Liliopsida
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Order:</td> <td>Asparagales
</td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td>Family:</td> <td>Orchidaceae</td></tr></tbody></table>
->- ->- ->-

male/female

newscientist.com/orchid sex trick fools male wasps (http://www.newscientist.com/channel/sex/mg19826524.400-orchid-sex-trick-fools-male-wasps.html)

Orchid sex trick fools male wasps

19 April 2008

WHILE few can resist the allure of a beautiful orchid, some wasps outdo the most ardent flower lover. Male orchid dupe wasps become so enamoured with Australian tongue orchids, which give off the scent of female wasps, that they ejaculate. But what price does the wasp pay for this misdirected mating?
Many insects are sexually deceived into liaisons with flowers, but few go as far as Lissopimpla excelsa, says Anne Gaskett of Macquarie University in Sydney, Australia, who led the study testing the wasp's behaviour towards Cryptostylis.
Gaskett noticed that some wasps in the bush outside Sydney left a visible blob on tongue orchid flowers following their visits. "We decided to check if they were wasting their sperm on the flowers," she says, which closer examination confirmed.
Field experiments also showed nearly three-quarters of the male wasps ejaculated on the flowers first time ...( mouth concave
> tongue convex

->- ->- ->-

blob

smeggin' stinky alluring curvacious flower butts -
how we love thy aroma of purest

phooooaaaaar!ousal (hot in here (as it is in Texas)).

TEXAS

Houston, Texas Is "The Magnolia City"

Texas - the 'dedecahedron' 'fullerene' state

TEXANs - the VMATs involved in biogenic amine physiology

Texans - run this site and Texas carries more users - it seems - than any other American state

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6b/Confederate_States_of_America.svg/250px-Confederate_States_of_America.svg.png

Thanks to ADDF::Amykins for the Star Wars connection Empire versus the Jedi (similar choice of names in Battlestar Galactica)
Texas >-< Mexico (the isthmus)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus)http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1e/Panama_SRTM_lrg.jpg/275px-Panama_SRTM_lrg.jpg

== (the draw string in the bonnet below - the connection into orthogonal space) (the S shape)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Zeta_polar.svg/180px-Zeta_polar.svg.png

Explosions in the sky (Austin,Texas)

Love of chilli (hot food) and need to shelter from the sun (bias away from use of solar energy)

Large numbers of creatures of the night, desert (the cactus, for instance),
Thanks to ADDF :: Frazzle Dazzle located next to the 'saguaro' and ADDF :: Qinkin (a previous thread)
arid and extreme environmental condition

Oil money (J.R.Ewing's bedsit in the ghetto) (tectonic plate interface cf Saudi Arabia - oil production through carbon subjected to mechanical stress)

SB_UK

04-19-08, 05:59 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_in_the_American_Civil_War

dirty moneyThough the southerners tended to favor the Confederacy, the state did not have slavery, and they were generally powerless during the war itself. California was home for dirty money powerful businessmen dirty money who played a dirty money significant role dirty money in Californian politics through their dirty money control dirty money of dirty money mines dirty money , dirty money shipping dirty money , and dirty money finance dirty money , dirty money and dirty money the dirty money Republican dirty money party dirty money.

->-

dirty money Republican dirty money party dirty money

dirty money

SB_UK

04-19-08, 06:06 AM

money -> <- morality

"One must rise by that by which one falls" and "the very poison that kills becomes the elixir of life when used by the wise."

money -> <- morality

hierarchy established of morality (the logical domain) over rancid money (the physical domain - which is in much need of attending a correctional facility -

Arkham's free

- no mentally disordered occupants

given proper logical hierarchy
an end to corrupt financial debauchery

SB_UK

04-19-08, 06:31 AM

fainting goat

->->- narcolepsy and our very private Idaho.

->->- dexedrine -> narcolepsy / ADD

->->- orexin (hypocretin) -> hypothalamic

->->- thyroid hormone

->->- iodine

->->- Iodine, chlorine,
fluorine ( > O2)

->->- iodinated salt (NaCl)

->->- salt -> blood presure elevation -> Na+ / K+ balances (the Na+ K+ ATPase, salt and hypertension - on motion -> H+ ATPase)

->->- stress -> cortisol

->->- cortisol -> mineralocorticoids/glucocorticoids
(water regulation - steroid hormones)

->->- aldosterone

->->- stress relating to maintaining the internal electrolytic balances for homeostasis to proceed unencumbered -
water and electrolytes
speed up and slow down

water production removal
salt production and removal

water production removal (like pee pee) -> uric acid
salt production and removal (like sweaty) -> pheromone -> cat butt sniffing

->->-

Chemical Signals in Vertebrates
<table><tbody><tr valign="top"><td><table><tbody><tr valign="top"><td>
</td><td>
</td> </tr> </tbody> </table>Jan Havlicek
Department of Anthropology, Charles University, Husnikova 2075, 158 00 Prague 13, Czech RepublicAbstract
Human body odour is individually specific and several lines of evidence suggest that to some extent it is under genetic control. There are however numerous other sources of variation, commonly labelled as environmental factors, which are the main aim of this paper. These include:

1) reproductive status,
2) emotional state,
3) diet and
4) diseases.

We primarily focus on axillary and genital odours as they have been proposed to have communicative function.
</td><td>
</td></tr></tbody></table>
->->-

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:YiwBwj-AoSv8RM:http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/abu.jpg

Anti-Super Man

The what if series (censored series) ?

Captain Netherlands versus Captain Britain

wot dya mean you 've never heard of me ???

I have a signed autograph from Captain America -
you
know ... ... ...

He said I had a lovely large chest and I let him have a feel.
:o

SB_UK

04-19-08, 08:44 AM

He said I had a lovely large chest
and
I let him have a feel

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:YiwBwj-AoSv8RM:http://blog.iblamethepatriarchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/abu.jpg
not there ! :o

the chest - :o:o

yes I know it's also sticking out :o:o:o

you're my hero :o:o

I especially like your drinks tray :o

:o:cool:;)

red white and blue tin tray

pop quiz

Flags (http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question50304.html) containing all of red un-, white di- and blue tricoleur and nothing else:

Europe
UK, France, Czech Republic, Iceland, The Netherlands, Luxembourg, Russia, Slovenia.

Asia
Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos, Nepal, North Korea, Taiwan, Thailand.

Africa
Liberia

N & C America
USA, Cuba, Panama, Dominican Republic.

S America
Chile

Oceania
Australia, New Zealand, Western Samoa.

I make that 24.

~*~

:o.................................;)
infra-red......|......ultra-violet
infra-red......v
............white light

SB_UK

04-19-08, 10:51 AM

Hanuman (goodie) monkey jumps from India to Sri Lanka

Ravana (baddie) is holding Sita (goodie) against her will

Hanuman tells Sita (goodie) that Rama's (goodie) comin' to rescue her

Ravana (baddie) captures Hanuman (goodie)

Ravana sets Hanuma'sn (goodie) tail on fire - who promptly burns Ravana's estates to the ground

... ... ... (later Sita rescued by Rama, Ravana defeated, Hanuman happy)

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Hanuman (goodie) monkey jumps from India to Sri Lanka
the evolutionary jump from monkey -> man

Ravana (baddie) is holding Sita (goodie) against her will the primitive mating strategy where primitive man Ravana takes woman

Ravana -> ravenous -> eat -> consume -> consumerism -> desire for any aspect of the physical world, materialism, capitalism - anything which $ buys that does not enrich the mind of men - as opposed to the pocket of man

Hanuman tells Sita (goodie) that Rama's (goodie) comin' to rescue her
The moderm mating strategy involves man and woman as equal partners.
;);)partners:p:p
- remembering the physical / mental abstraction layer divide and need for duality which is physical layer independent)

Ravana (baddie) captures Hanuman (goodie)

Ravana sets Hanuma'sn (goodie) tail on fire - who promptly burns Ravana's estates to the ground

'like drinking gasoline to quench a thirst, until there's nothing there left there at all'
Suzanne Vega

http://tbn0.google.com/images?