Is anyone else here totally into the tv show Heroes? I love the show and look forward to seeing a new episode every week. I love to discuss and analyze what has been occuring. Anyone game for discussion of the plot and how it is evolving?

I know this is geeky, but I can't help it. I am a fan :)

I was going to watch it last night and forgot. I've never seen it before...and was interested in finding out if it was any good. Maybe I can catch it, next week.

I was going to watch it last night and forgot. I've never seen it before...and was interested in finding out if it was any good. Maybe I can catch it, next week.
You can watch this weeks episode here http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/ or you can watch it on SciFi on Fridays. I am not sure about the time on Fridays.

I also recommend that you try to catch up on what has been going on. Otherwise you might be lost. Funny thing is that I watch it consistantly and still find myself lost. Heh :faint:

Darn it. Heroes isn't on again until April 23rd. Anyone here think this will be its only season?

I absolutely LOVE this show! I actually wasn't going to watch it, but my mom was visiting and wanted to catch the 1st episode. I was hooked!

You can catch all of the episodes on the NBC website. Yep...full episodes!

I can't see how they can resolve the story (Peter blows/does not blow New York) and have a 2nd season. What will they do? The hero of the week? Good heroes vs. bad heroes? It couldn't be as gripping as this season.

On the other hand ... I'd miss it if it went away.

mom23

ditto to mom23's response . . . I absolutely LOVE Heroes!!

It's my favorite show this TV season :D

I would be surprised if it is canceled, from what I understand it gets great ratings (somewhere around 14 million viewers)

I like heros too, but it moves too slow for me! It sucks that they made the whole plot point the big explosion, because they're going to just have to waste as much time leading up to it as possible. I'm thinking the damn explosion should just happen already. But then the show would be over, and I dont want that either. This show is killing me!

There's just too many important people in the show. You just don't get to see enough of any of them. And man I love it. But each episode feels 2 hours too short.

Maybe I should do the same thing I did with lost. Watch the whole season in one week.

From what I hear, the producers have an idea on where the show is going. After all, not everyone is all caught up in this New York meltdown fiasco. I'm sort of sure that there will be more of that "what do now that I'm a hero?" and all. And there's still (for now anyway) Syler.

I could have screamed (well...I did a bit) when the last new episode ended and they said it would be April before there was a new one. *argh* I hate waiting.

Is anyone else here totally into the tv show Heroes? I love the show and look forward to seeing a new episode every week. I love to discuss and analyze what has been occuring. Anyone game for discussion of the plot and how it is evolving?

I know this is geeky, but I can't help it. I am a fan :)i am so addicted to that show. It really burns me that we have to wait untill the 23rd to see another episode. :cool: one thing for sure i dont like the turn isaak took, almost seems he is turning evil, but i would guess that he will be redeamed somehow. I am glad hiro got his sword, but will he beable to use it for what it isment for? Niki i think will beat her demon but there will be a great cost for it, I just hope it is not her sons life. clair will have a hudge roll in the "melt down" I think we have seen parts of it when she was saving her family from mr. nucular. Matt is being used for things he never intended, I think he will be the only one to beable to restore the memories of the people and his own. it almost looks like we are going to lose Mohinder to syler, but I think with his knowlaged of the genetics he has one more trick up his sleve. but that does not mean we will lose syler, he is too good at being bad. Now for peter, he will have some of the biggest roles in the whole show. He is almost licken to superman with all his abilities. he is the only one who can really go toe to toe against syler and have a chance of winning, or at least surviving. well this is a small take of my hero's addiction. Oh I have a lot more thoughts. would love to share them with any one willing to listen to my rantings.:rolleyes: and as for the show only being one season, it is to popular to have that happen.

wow just saw this thread...am a fan, too =)

...so who else saw the teaser commercial nbc threw out there on monday? i think it's SO horrible they did that almost a month before the show airs again...jerks! >=T still trying to decide what i think of brunette claire...considering i didn't recognize her initially...

any thoughts on the mom being all in-the-know? i think she's in cahoots with sulu and all the other people who are part of hinderman's thing....

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Wasn't Claire's mom replaced with the shape-shifter woman?

Sort of. They pulled a fast one on dad to see what he knew, and what he did. At this point we have no idea where Claire's mom is.

i am hoping clairs mom is ok and that all it was was a fast one on clairs dad.

oh, not sure if you guys are replying to my post, but i should've specified which mom :) i meant mrs. petrelli.

but now you've got me thinking about this shapeshifting girl....(ha ha this is so not helping my cause, i'm suppose to be working on a project due friday!)

Oh yeah....Mrs. Petrelli is *way* into the whole thing. She is a piece of work, isn't she?

Ugh...is it April 23 yet?

I have never heard of it? What is it about?

Oh yeah....Mrs. Petrelli is *way* into the whole thing. She is a piece of work, isn't she?

Ugh...is it April 23 yet?
i just wonder what powers she has. it has to be something good.

only one week one day left before the next show.:D not that im looking forward to it, not that I am a heroes geek or any thing. but did i mention that one week from this monday at 8 pm is the next new show of heroes. I cant wait. eight days to go. :)

3 days left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hope Peter is going to be alright... I really think he will be. Syler should be axed for his bad acting. I am so sick of Syler. Enough already! I am finding the twist of Petrelli's mom being in on things to be so cool. Where does Sulu fit in with Claire's dad (adopted dad)? Where is Claire's adopted mom? When is the congressman going to stop running away from his powers?............. I could go on and on and on.

I have to say that my favorite character is Hiro. He is so funny and seems so sweet. One of the characters I am the most confused about is Niki... How does multiple personalities = being a hero? I can understand the superstrength, but two personalities........ Well, we will see won't we?

I hope Peter is going to be alright... I really think he will be.
I really think we will see peter dead before the end of the seasons, but remeber what happened to clair ending up on the morges table and coming back to life. Peter has her abilities too so he will be back next season. (sat sun to go the countdown continues.)

I have to work 7pm to 2am that night, but my boss has given me the go-ahead to go home for my "lunch break" at 9 to watch Heroes.
(I only live eight tenths of a mile from my job.)
So, do I sacrifice sleep for Heroes?

One of the characters I am the most confused about is Niki... How does multiple personalities = being a hero? I can understand the superstrength, but two personalities........ Well, we will see won't we?
Maybe it's just the super strenght, but only Jessica has learned how to use them. So it could be that the MPD is just a seperate issue. Or it could be that there was some potential for Wonder Twin action, but since Jessica died, and moved into Niki it just looks like MPD, but isn't.

No, Peter can't die :eek: He seems the most invincible of them all.

Do you really think there will be another season or will it all end this year?


Maybe Jessica and Niki will become one..... Wonder Twin Powers Activate! :cool:

No, Peter can't die :eek: He seems the most invincible of them all.

Do you really think there will be another season or will it all end this year?


Maybe Jessica and Niki will become one..... Wonder Twin Powers Activate! :cool:
the ones who seem the strongest usally have the biggest weekness. Yes I think there will be another season and i still stand by by stement that peters death will be part of the cliff hanger. but that he will be back next season stonger if not a little more able to be hurt

ohhhhhhh . . so good tonight!! I really like Missy Peregrym as the person who can shift into other people.

well peter did "die" just like clair. and it was she who helped bring him back. I think the key is now hiro. what ever he learns in the future will need to be used in the present. only four episodes to find out. remeber that because of hiro being able to shift thru time even isac is not truly dead yet.

You know what? NBC made a big mistake. Last night's episode mashed together so much stuff into one story that it was significantly less enjoyable than previous episodes. We'll keep watching it because we're addicted, but for less enthusiastic viewers the long break and this overly plot-laden episode might convince people it's not worth watching the next four.

You know what? NBC made a big mistake. Last night's episode mashed together so much stuff into one story that it was significantly less enjoyable than previous episodes. We'll keep watching it because we're addicted, but for less enthusiastic viewers the long break and this overly plot-laden episode might convince people it's not worth watching the next four.I really think that the big mistake that nbc made was not knowing just how this show would take off. so In my opinion(i could be wrong as i usally am:rolleyes: ) there was not as many episodes made. also there were more comercials than the shows at the begining so that took a lot out of the show too. did you like the way peters mom eluded to her involvement and her powers. and I know this is so like "Luke I am your father." but I have a therie on who peter and nathans real dad is, any one else?

Heroes is a great show for ADDness because it keeps changing plot lines and scenes before the viewer gets bored or goes off on a mind tangent (or after a snack).

they throw in so many twists and turns!! I love it!

they throw in so many twists and turns!! I love it!
I think that this is one of the reasons I really think that they will have another season next year. so much they can do with the show.
Heroes is a great show for ADDness because it keeps changing plot lines and scenes before the viewer gets bored or goes off on a mind tangent That is one of the biggest reasons I like the show. I cant stand a show movie or even a book that the plot moves slow. it has to change it has to keep me guessing. I like that.

My non-ADD kids and husband love it, too, you know. (That sounds like the Irish Spring commercial a little. Uh-oh, am I dating myself?) At the end, every time, the "to be continued" pops on the screen, and my eldest yells "NOOOOO!!!!"

To keep ourselves busy, we'll print out the graphic novel from the site and watch interviews and stuff. It's not the same, but it helps. ;)

well I dont know about any one else but I really liked last nites show. the alternate future really was kind of creepy and sad. Too many things went wrong and too many lives were ruined. I really liked the way they did Nathan or should i say silor. now Hiro has much to think about and much to change including his own death. I also liked the fact that Claired adopted dad turned out to be so good and was forming the underground railroad for the "special" people.

I loved the episode myself, but it drove my boyfriend crazy. He just wants to see how things really are. As for myself, I read so many sci-fi and fantasy books that I am like "Bring on some more." I seem to be the only one in my family and in my relationship that can follow the plot. Maybe I can attribute that to my ADD? who knows...

All I know is that they better bring Heros back next season. I worry about that because I remember in the 90's they had Twin Peaks and it was really popular, yet they cancelled it. Lets hope Heros doesn't suffer the same fate.

Ok this is totally off topic, but have any of you read Stephen King's "The Dark Tower" series? I am a total Tower fanatic.

I'm confused. If it was really Peter who exploded, how will Hiro's killing Sylar stop the bomb?

Sylar is the one that gets Peter to blow up? Maybe Peter blowing up has nothing to do with saving the world, but stopping Sylar from eating Nathan's brain and taking his place is the bigger worry.
"I'll never forgive you for what you did in his name."

It's a good thing it was set in the future, what with them all droping like flies.

And shouldn't Matt have know that wasn't really Nathan? He can read minds after all.

yeah - I was wondering if Matt was having problems w/ his powers because he should have known better than anyone that Nathan was Sylar.

Not too many problems since he picked out where Clair was hidding.

When Matt went to Claire's adopted father to find out her whereabouts didn't the scene show the chameleon chick dead on the floor? If so, then how was Sylar able to take Nathan's place for so many year(s)? Also, when did Sylar take Nathan's brain? Why did he never before go after Peter? So many open ends......

Hey Sehrita-missed you-life must be busy-Glad to see you and your kitty again! Enjoy the show!

Hey Sehrita-missed you-life must be busy-Glad to see you and your kitty again! Enjoy the show!
Thank you so much for the warm welcome back Raddmom er I mean VisualImagery! It is hard to find time to really visit the forums anymore with schooling getting all crazy, but I try.

When Matt went to Claire's adopted father to find out her whereabouts didn't the scene show the chameleon chick dead on the floor? If so, then how was Sylar able to take Nathan's place for so many year(s)? Also, when did Sylar take Nathan's brain? Why did he never before go after Peter? So many open ends......Well I think at that point he had already done what he needed with her brain to get the powers he needed. Im just surprised he has not gone after peter full force can you imagine sylar with peters ability to just absorb the power instead of having to kill for it. he probably still would but I think he would be so much more powerfull.

When Matt went to Claire's adopted father to find out her whereabouts didn't the scene show the chameleon chick dead on the floor? If so, then how was Sylar able to take Nathan's place for so many year(s)? Also, when did Sylar take Nathan's brain? Why did he never before go after Peter? So many open ends......I suspect that Sylar wasn't Nathan until after we saw the Chameleon chick dead. We still don't know exactly how Sylar gets his powers - it may be the same way that Peter does, but Sylar just likes to kill. The fact that the Chameleon chick was dead in a different way doesn't exclude the fact that it could have been Sylar. Also, Sylar might not know that Peter absorbes powers.

It's interesting how the writers are blurring the distinction between good and evil though. The poor cop just seems to be always on the wrong side every time, and ends up working for the wrong people.

The most interesting point that they established in this episode is that Hiro can change time.

We watched Monday's show last night. We kept yelling at the mom to tell Sylar he didn't have to be special - he might even have gone back to being a watchmaker if she had. But NOOOOOO. . .

And I wondered what really bothered him about the idea that he'd blow up the world. He said he didn't want to kill innocents, but I'm a little dubious about that. I wondered if maybe he just didn't want to face the possibility that he himself might die in the explosion.

It kills me that there are only two episodes left. ARGH! Maybe they'll keep putting up new graphic novels on the site during the summer. It has been renewed for the fall, but that's a long wait.

We watched Monday's show last night. We kept yelling at the mom to tell Sylar he didn't have to be special - he might even have gone back to being a watchmaker if she had. But NOOOOOO. . .

And I wondered what really bothered him about the idea that he'd blow up the world. He said he didn't want to kill innocents, but I'm a little dubious about that. I wondered if maybe he just didn't want to face the possibility that he himself might die in the explosion.

It kills me that there are only two episodes left. ARGH! Maybe they'll keep putting up new graphic novels on the site during the summer. It has been renewed for the fall, but that's a long wait.
For the first time I actually felt sorry for Sylar. No wonder he is so screwed up.

How on earth did he break Hiro's "time stop?" I knew it wasn't time for Sylar to die, but I didn't expect that.

Oh? It has been renewed for the fall???? Yes!

Although the show has so many crazy turns that it is nearly impossible to keep track, I still love it. I just wish they would slow down and really focus on one or two plots at a time. Ya know what I mean?

It's possible that Hiro doesn't stop time, but rather slows it to such a point where it looks like it has stoped. And since we don't know what all of Sylar's powers are, if he can move super fast then it would look like he "broke" through Hiro's stopping time. It's alot of if's, but that's the only thing I can think of.

I want to know why Peter doesn't have super hearing now. He absorbs powers, and he was right there with Sylar, so Peter should now have everything that Sylar does (even if he doesn't realize it). And since that hearing would suddenly be an issue, until he got it under control, he should be acting like he has super hearing.

I want to know why Peter doesn't have super hearing now. He absorbs powers, and he was right there with Sylar, so Peter should now have everything that Sylar does (even if he doesn't realize it). And since that hearing would suddenly be an issue, until he got it under control, he should be acting like he has super hearing.
Ooooo thats a good one. I didn't think of that. :)

peter has been near sylar a few times but has not asorbed his powers. I think sylar has a natural dampening feild around him, that is why matt cant read his thoughts and did not know he was sylar in the future. If the virus is the thing that can stop sylar, then cant suresh beable to, he has the anti bodies of the virus in his bloodstream and when he gave it to the girl. well didnt that make her the same as him? (btw, i think the little girl is the treaking system.)

(btw, i think the little girl is the treaking system.)Is that the same as a tracking system? :) 'Treaking systems' conjur up images of Spanish magicians for some reason..... :)

I'm sure she's the "new" tracking system. The question is, does Clair's dad know that the tracking system is a little girl? He's hardly a moral compas after all, and I can easily picture him using Matt and Ted to kill her to keep his Clair-bear safe.

I believe the little girl is the tracking system too.

Did anyone else notice that there is a symbol on Hiro's sword that is also the same tatoo on Niki/Jessica's back? Btw, I think Hiro's dad (Sulu) has the real sword.... I am wondering if Sulu has a power also.

Tonight is the last night for Heroes!

We're in the midwest. I think it airs here a couple hours ahead of the west coast. want me to tell you how it ends? :D

We're in the midwest. I think it airs here a couple hours ahead of the west coast. want me to tell you how it ends? :D
HA! :D

I want to know why Peter doesn't have super hearing now. He absorbs powers, and he was right there with Sylar, so Peter should now have everything that Sylar does (even if he doesn't realize it). And since that hearing would suddenly be an issue, until he got it under control, he should be acting like he has super hearing.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
Hi. I loove this show, and this thread is much more entertaining than what I'm supposed to be doing (*cough* writing thesis *cough).

I think the deal with Peter is that he has to empathise with the person whose power he absorbs (think back to when he was fighting with the invisible guy). . . since Skylar up until possibly this last episode has been portrayed as virtually nothing but a psychopath, it's probably very hard for that to happen . . .

Skylar takes people apart in order to figure out how they work, Peter just feels what they're feeling and can absorb the powers.

you all know there is a sequel, to heroes in the works. it is called heroes beginings I think. My take on it it will be all the people that came before the ones now. or else it will be more of the people now but how they got their powers. Leave it to NBC to suck the life out of something that is doing great.

i don't know about you guys, but when Peter met with Simone's dad and he talked about love, the Beatles song "all you need is love" ran through my head the rest of the show :D

It was super! although, i thought it would be more of a cliffhanger.


PS. it's cool to know HRG's name! Noah . . ..

I hope everyone got to see all of it, since NBC decided to end it at 10:02 instead of 10:00.

i don't know about you guys, but when Peter met with Simone's dad and he talked about love, the Beatles song "all you need is love" ran through my head the rest of the show :D

It was super! although, i thought it would be more of a cliffhanger.


PS. it's cool to know HRG's name! Noah . . ..
no you are not the only one with that song going thru your head. and isnt it something that hrg's name is Noah, the person that is supose to save mankind from thier evil ways, and sylars first name is Gariel, the angel of death. I am not convinced that peter is dead, After all he had to save the cheerleader to save the world, and when he saved the cheerleader he got her powers. that way he could regenerate.

Peter has to live, because Sylar lived. Just follow that trail of blood down into the open manhole cover. . .

I know. I was screaming at the TV "Cut off his head!" Why doesn't anyone ever make 100% sure that the bad guy is dead?!?

Peter will probably live, but I don't see how Nathan could have not kicked the bucket. Even if all he did was fly Peter up really high and then let him go, that's an awful lot of radation to be sucking in at such a close range to survive.

"All you need is love..."
lol
I had that same thought.

no you are not the only one with that song going thru your head. and isnt it something that hrg's name is Noah, the person that is supose to save mankind from thier evil ways, and sylars first name is Gariel, the angel of death. I am not convinced that peter is dead, After all he had to save the cheerleader to save the world, and when he saved the cheerleader he got her powers. that way he could regenerate.I don't think peter actually explodes. I believe he puts out so much power that it causes an explosion of sort, but his body is intact. (think of all those super-heros that are on fire and the body doesn't actually burn.) I think this is why Nathan flew him up into the air... so that Claire doesn't actually kill Peter by shooting his "achilles heel." We will see a return of Peter and, unfortunately, Sylar.... I believe that Sylar was taken down into the sewers and will somehow be brought back to life by the really "bad" one.

Nathan is for sure dead.

What do you all think?

I don't think peter actually explodes. I believe he puts out so much power that it causes an explosion of sort, but his body is intact. (think of all those super-heros that are on fire and the body doesn't actually burn.) I think this is why Nathan flew him up into the air... so that Claire doesn't actually kill Peter by shooting his "achilles heel." We will see a return of Peter and, unfortunately, Sylar.... I believe that Sylar was taken down into the sewers and will somehow be brought back to life by the really "bad" one.

Nathan is for sure dead.

What do you all think?Aaaaaaaaaaargh. I haven't seen it yet! Aaaaaaaaaargh.........

In comic books and soap operas - if you don't see a body, he ain't dead.

That's why you cut off the head. Even Peter and Claire can't regenerate without a head.

And someone worse then Sylar? Now that's a creepy thought.


I am happy that I seemed to be right about Nikki/Jessica. Super strength, with that weird two twin in one body thing not being related to her power. Nice to know I was finally right about something. :rolleyes:

That's why you cut off the head. Even Peter and Claire can't regenerate without a head.

And someone worse then Sylar? Now that's a creepy thought.


I am happy that I seemed to be right about Nikki/Jessica. Super strength, with that weird two twin in one body thing not being related to her power. Nice to know I was finally right about something. :rolleyes:
I was so happy when Sylar got "killed".... I think I actually clapped because the character very much annoyed me. I was also glad that the character played by Eric Roberts is gone...

Yeah, she finally merged her personalities and now realizes that she had super-strength all along.

Hiro is the best character in the whole show in my opinion. For some reason that guy seems more "real" to me. Maybe it is because he screws up so much.

Aaaaaaaaaaargh. I haven't seen it yet! Aaaaaaaaaargh.........
:rolleyes: now why would you look into a thread about a show that you have not seen yet, talk about a plot spoiler.

:rolleyes: now why would you look into a thread about a show that you have not seen yet, talk about a plot spoiler.It was just the last episode I hadn't seen, and the thread was off in a saved tab and when I was going through my regular I-have-too-many-tabs-now culling exercise I came across it, and started reading too much.... Oh well... I've seen it now.... Good episode..... Shame we have to wait 6 months now.....

So Hiro doesn't know that they stopped Peter from exploding. I wonder if they'll write that into the script next season or just pretend he knows.
And with Hiro back in the past, it will mess with the current timeline of things.

So Hiro doesn't know that they stopped Peter from exploding. I wonder if they'll write that into the script next season or just pretend he knows.
And with Hiro back in the past, it will mess with the current timeline of things.
hmmm the whole time space contium again. Yes I think that having hiro in the past will mess with things in the future, but will they mess with things the wrong way or will he somehow be a part of creating the people that will be the ansestors of the hero's? I think he will, we all have a destony and he is just begining his. and with him knowing they stoped peter from exploding, it has not happended yet from his veiw point he is in the past. he could do something that would stop the events from taking place On the new york street and peter could explode after all. that is the problem with messing with the past, no one is sure what will happen afterall and from a writers view point, you dont have to let go of any good charactors, its a good way to keep them on the show.
It was just the last episode I hadn't seen, and the thread was off in a saved tab and when I was going through my regular I-have-too-many-tabs-now culling exercise I came across it, and started reading too much.... Oh well... I've seen it now.... Good episode..... Shame we have to wait 6 months now.....yes it will be a long few months not being able to see a new episode but I will survive. :cool: the reason why i was teasing you about this is that I did the same thing. I had not seen the cliff hanger for a show a couple years ago and what do I do but go to the website about the show and find out about it and really spoiled it for me.:faint: live and learn

To this day, a friend of mine harbors deep hatred towards the person who was walking out as we were in line for "Empire Strikes Back" who said loudly, "I can't believe Darth Vader is Luke's father!!"

I think that's going a bit far, especially in this day when news travels so fast. Spoilers are almost unavoidable. But you could watch the episode any time you wanted in streaming video from the site, you know. . .

But you could watch the episode any time you wanted in streaming video from the site, you know. . .Unfortunately, here in Oz, (being 3-4 months behind the US), we can't see them from the official Heroes website. Fortunately for me the server that hosts my domain is in Texas - so I run a web proxy on that and connect to it.

Don't know why they bothered to block IPs by geography - there's always a way around it.

I was so glad that the Sci Fi channel ran 23 episodes back to back so I could DVR them. Now I have them all on disc, and am only missing episode 8 (seven minutes to midnight). I will have to look and see if I can download it from itues or something. I want to rewatch the whole thing from beginning to end in one sitting (or two or three - lol).

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Heroes will be back on again on the 24th!!!! Woot! Only 5 sleeps.

Heroes will be back on again on the 24th!!!! Woot! Only 5 sleeps.that is if you can sleep while waiting for it to come on. I watched the season finalle again and cant wait till the new one. I really hope we see the new villian that the little girl was talking about. I mean how can someone be even worse than sylar. bogles the mind. I also cant wait untill the spin off comes on and that is heroes beginings. I think and hoping that it will have something to do with peters mom and the guy he took care of. what are their powers?

that is if you can sleep while waiting for it to come on.
Well, I guess if you count all the times I wake up during the night, then it'll be around 271 sleeps.



I watched the season finalle again and cant wait till the new one. I really hope we see the new villian that the little girl was talking about. I mean how can someone be even worse than sylar. bogles the mind. I don't think we'll see the new villian until half way through. It'll be a major story arc, that they'll keep us on the edge of our seats for. I think someone can be worse than Sylar - remember in the second last episode he actually had a conscience? He actually did resent what he had done. And he's only bent on killing the 'special' people. So from that perspective there's still 'some bad' left to go. (I wouldn't like to run into either of them mind you.)


I also cant wait untill the spin off comes on and that is heroes beginings. I think and hoping that it will have something to do with peters mom and the guy he took care of. what are their powers?Is there a spinoff already? Heck. That didn't take long. Why don't they wait until their into season 3 or 4 before doing a spin off. Too much of a good thing can ruin something like this.

Yeah, don't know what their powers are, but we know they have something. Maybe mind manipulation? It'd have to be something that could enable them to be rich I suspect.

Is there a spinoff already? Heck. That didn't take long. Why don't they wait until their into season 3 or 4 before doing a spin off. Too much of a good thing can ruin something like this.
yes it will run about mid season when heroes will take a break. I think what they want to do is kind of give a little more background to how things started. now only the weekend to wait:cool:

And only 213 sleeps. :)

I am anxiously awaiting the new season too - hope it lives up to all the hype.

one more day one more day but then who's counting??:D the last time i was this excited I had found my tail.

wahoo!! it's ALMOST HERE!!

Unfortunately, I have to wait for it to be available on the web, as we won't have it on the TV for another 6 months. But, I can at least get it the day after, on the web..

Unfortunately, I have to wait for it to be available on the web, as we won't have it on the TV for another 6 months. But, I can at least get it the day after, on the web..lets try and not give any spoilers on here untill the next day then, so as not to spoil it. (did I mention its on tonite?:) )

Nah, that's fine... spoil away. I'll avoid this thread until I've seen it.

12 hours!!!!

just finished watching it, oh, 17 minutes ago!!

I missed the first few minutes though . i was having a crisis and talking w/ my mom.
I'm gonna watch it again tomorrow when NBC posts it.

It was good!

SPOILERS






1) interesting that the new boy in Claire's life flies. . .

2) i adore HRG!! i had a good laugh when he took down his boss.

3) I LOVE LOVE LOVE David Anders! it's so funny he's kensai/Kane
(BtW - -did you know he grew up in oregon?? his British accent is fake!!
interesting tidbit: in Alias - if you didn't watch it - he had a British accent as
well)

4) that Molly girl is odd

5) hmm . . maya is the dangerous evil person (although the voices don't match w/ the one in her dream . man's voice)?? I had a glare on the TV . . did those eye things that Molly drew resemble what Maya did to those people???

6) i'm stoked about Peter's storyline! The box identity thing ..

7) hmmm . . . 9 people?? (the chat w/ Angela & Kaito) i wonder if those are the people who started all these hero powers. .. . .


What did you guys think??

"I am tired of eating your crap!" HRG...ILU Noah Bennet!

Clair's new guy can fly? Is he a closet Petrelli? Or do the mutations just happen?

Not normally a fan of beards but between Nathan and Ted Mosby ("How I Met Your Mother"), Monday was Beard Night on TV. And both guys rocked them pretty hard!

MR. MUGGLES!

Maya and Alejandro sucked me in majorly. Stupid coyote, thinking he could get in Maya's pants. Eep!

Yata! And does Ando rock the suit or what? He's my favorite secondary character. Oh, and Mohinder cleans up quite nicely.

Mondays...perhaps the perfect night of TV in the KP house!

It looked like what Maya did was cause massive brain hemorages. Then again, going from a little girls nightmares....you never know with this show.

I hate this show! I hate this show! I hate this show! I hate this show!

I can't wait for next week.

I love it. i love it. i love it!

The boy from Claire's school levitated outside her window and then flew away - swooooosh! I'm wondering if he's a closet family member. I didn't think anyone had the same powers, with exception of Syler getting them through killing and Peter - being the empath.

I'm so intrigued by Kane/kensai (i'm pretty sure it's because i have a major crush on David Anders - ever since Alias). I like the Maya/Alejandro story, but it hasn't completely captured me yet (i'm sure it will!).

happy tubing!

loved the new episode, lots going on lots of questions to be answerd. the big thing with peters mom and hiro's dad and the death threat, and the fact peter was wearing the symbol around his neck when he was found, the same symbol that is a tatoo on some if not all the hero's. leads me to believe that the peoples powers are part of some bigger conspiracy theory going on. I have two theories right now. the first, aliens have come to earth a long time ago and bred with humans and the results is these people with powers. that would explain that they are part of the dna. or the second is it is a massive dna exparement that is affecting millions how is it spread i am not sure yet but it has something to do with time travel and trying to affect the out come of earth history. ok ok I will stop ranting now, but did I say I loved the new episode?

I loved the new episode too - I will spare you the commentary. It is nice to see that there are so many other fans here.

great episode . . as usual!!

SPOILERS (in the form of a question for those who can help):



But, if someone can please (pretty please w/ sugar on top) explain what the heck happened surrounding the weird Maya/Alejandro thing (she looked in his eyes and his eyes turned black while her eyes bled out . .) did she pass her powers to him??

I didn't understand it either Court. I still love the show, even if I don't understand it.

She's a viris, he's the cure. :)

Virus/Cure...I saw Alejandro as a Cleaner. If he makes it to Maya's "mess" in time he can absorb and negate her power. But I'll bet that if too much time passes it's too late (see episode 1 with the truckload of migrants).

Kenzei can regenerate! Claire can grow limbs! and ruin a great pedicure with a pair of scissors. Mr. Muggles...bwahahahaha! "Turn my tape back on!"

Oh Peter, why did you have to go and put that shirt on? Gah, he's a tastee cake! And Nathan, while your beard growing capabilities are awesome I beg you to shave and fly again wearing only pajama bottoms, KTHXBI!

HRG and The Haitan, reunited! That gave me a happy :). And Mohinder's so pretty, isn't he? If we had Isaac we'd have a world of pretty.

What's attacking the Supers? I loved with Mama Petrelli yelled at Matt, "GET OUT OF MY HEAD!" Whoohoo!

Not enough Ando (I know the story line didn't call for Ando but still, I have a thing for Japanese guys).

I think Hiro is the one who made the history he read about 400 later. His fight scene was legen...wait for it...DARY!

Looks like we get Nikki and Micah next week. Is DL alive? I hope so.

Oo, "Reaper"s on tonight!

I haven't seen Reaper yet. Is it good? I love Heroes. I also like Supernatural (a few beefcakes there too - lol)

If you like stuff like "Heroes" and "Buffy" then "Reaper" is up your alley. You're already watching "Supernatural" so yeah, give "Reaper" a shot. Mr. KP and I loved it!

I think the Mister might get lucky tonight if we FF to the scenes with Peter sans shirt...le sigh!

Virus/Cure...I saw Alejandro as a Cleaner. If he makes it to Maya's "mess" in time he can absorb and negate her power. But I'll bet that if too much time passes it's too late (see episode 1 with the truckload of migrants).

Kenzei can regenerate! Claire can grow limbs! and ruin a great pedicure with a pair of scissors. Mr. Muggles...bwahahahaha! "Turn my tape back on!"

Oh Peter, why did you have to go and put that shirt on? Gah, he's a tastee cake! And Nathan, while your beard growing capabilities are awesome I beg you to shave and fly again wearing only pajama bottoms, KTHXBI!

HRG and The Haitan, reunited! That gave me a happy :). And Mohinder's so pretty, isn't he? If we had Isaac we'd have a world of pretty.

What's attacking the Supers? I loved with Mama Petrelli yelled at Matt, "GET OUT OF MY HEAD!" Whoohoo!

Not enough Ando (I know the story line didn't call for Ando but still, I have a thing for Japanese guys).

I think Hiro is the one who made the history he read about 400 later. His fight scene was legen...wait for it...DARY!

Looks like we get Nikki and Micah next week. Is DL alive? I hope so.

Oo, "Reaper"s on tonight!

I think you're inside my head! i love how you think, kitten!!


Peter def. needs to keep his shirt OFF. kensai . . . ah. he can keep his shirt off too!!

Mama Petrelli yelling at Matt in his head ROCKED!!!

It's so cool Claire can regenerate limbs!! and kensai!! sweet!

I'm pretty sure DL isn't alive :( but, I could be wrong!!!

The Haitian ROCKS! I totally dig HRG.

Mr Muggles .. interesting, especially since he spotted Claire's new friend up high.

Maya/Alejandro cleaner type explanation . . .great way to describe it! seems to fit.


(i'm watching Reaper tonight . . i've heard great things about it!)

I liked this episode much better than the first one. The pacing felt better and the dialogue sharper. I really liked Hiro in this one, but then again I like him in every episode. I didn't see the ending with Kensai coming.

My only gripe is that they have so many characters now it is hard to keep up. I like that the two episodes have focused on a handful, but what happens to that handful when the next handful comes in. I don't want to wait three weeks before I see what's going on with Claire and flying kid.

Yeah hiro was great as usual. I hope peter dies soon he's not a very good actor :(

Yeah hiro was great as usual. I hope peter dies soon he's not a very good actor :(
Aw come on! Peter brings the Pretty! *just joking with you!*

Do we need a Reaper thread? I'm game!

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I like peter, he is well a real hero having something thrust on him but not really wanting it the way he got it but having to deal with it. he is a true hero, he is very very co-dependant thinking he has to save everyone.
I didn't see the ending with Kensai coming.
I did not see it coming either but it makes sense, I still say it has something to do with the elclipse and time travel. i mean peter and his brother are not the only ones who can fly so who said tht hiro is the only one who can time travel.
Mama Petrelli yelling at Matt in his head ROCKED!!!
ok i would really like to know what her and hiro's dad powers were and what they did.

Yeah peter seems like a good guy, I just find his character kind of bland.

Mama Petrelli's power was predicting the future. She was steering Nathan towards the senate/presidency in a bid to keep the Supers future safe and undercover. Nathan was on track but when he grabbed Peter and flew up safely away from NYC, he altered the future as Angela predicted.

As for Kato, I'm still not certain what his power was. He obviously knew Claire had a power (being Nathan and Meredith's kid) and was working for the Company 17+ years ago. Perhaps just being entwined with the Company is his connection.

This show brings so much pretty to my screen! I've realised that 95% of the guys are yummiful! (except that ookey dude Mohinder's working for)

I knew Kensei had a power but I didn't know it would be Claire's. Read it in "Entertainment Weekly."

i'm gonna have to catch up by watching it online. I had to work late tonight and missed the first 15 minutes :(

total bummer.

I missed it too Court...

Well, after all the excitement, I never got around to watching it until just the other day.... Well, I actually forgot about it.... :o but anyway......



3) I LOVE LOVE LOVE David Anders! it's so funny he's kensai/Kane
(BtW - -did you know he grew up in oregon??
Mmmm, didn't know he wasn't Pommie. Pretty good accent. I guess it's like House, (can't remember the actor now), who is a pommie, yet doing a pretty good US accent.



5) hmm . . maya is the dangerous evil person (although the voices don't match w/ the one in her dream . man's voice)?? I had a glare on the TV . . did those eye things that Molly drew resemble what Maya did to those people???
I didn't pick up on that one, but now that I've watched ep4, it's actually Matt's father who's the super baddy.



6) i'm stoked about Peter's storyline! The box identity thing ..
Yep, they just couldn't have killed him off. Although, I didn't like the way they brought him back in to S2. It reeks of the fatal season demise of Alias. (IE the waking up 3 years later bit.) I really hope they explain that one well.



Clair's new guy can fly? Is he a closet Petrelli? Or do the mutations just happen?
Mmmm, either it's all very inbred, (as everyone seems to be related), or else it just happens. What about Maya's relative doing the Matt thing to Maya?



Yata! And does Ando rock the suit or what? He's my favorite secondary character.
Yep, same here. Hiro, Claire and Peter are my favorite major characters.



what the heck happened surrounding the weird Maya/Alejandro thing
It looks like Alejandro might be some sort of empath like Peter, but can suck the power out of people completely. That'd be a dangerous combination for Sylar to have.

Oh, that was one thing I didn't like in this new season, the way Sylar came back, was a bit silly. Dunno.....

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I think Hiro is the one who made the history he read about 400 later. His fight scene was legen...wait for it...DARY!
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I like Hiro's line when he was fighting the bad guys. "You could write it in your history books! Fight of the 12 swords would be a good name!"

LMAO!

I downloaded the Heroes game for my cell phone, not to get off topic, and it's good.

So what does everyone think of season 2 so far? Too many characters? Too slow?

I like this season a fair bit. Claires boyfriend ****es me off as he's a pretty boy. The dude from last season was much better.

Sylar should've died. I don't like his character much. I've always disliked peter because of his keanu reeves-like acting. I like the black lady who mia(?) is staying with who can copy stuff.

Overall I'm enjoying it. I'd like them to add a bit more sci-fi type stuff and take out some of the drama..it's not too bad though.

So what does everyone think of season 2 so far? Too many characters? Too slow?
Too many characters. My wife and a friend of mine are having trouble keeping up. Of course my ADHD comes in handy here...:D

I am beginning to see the connection between the Hiro arc and the symbol that keeps showing up in the present day. My theory


*SPOILERS*




*YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

We saw in the last episode that Kensai is now a "bad guy." I think with his power he can be immortal and is the present day big bad as well. That's why his symbol is over everything.

i watch heroes! but we r a season behind i fink.
i like dat asian guy

yeah hes my fav too bro
a crack up dude

I like this season a fair bit. Claires boyfriend ****es me off as he's a pretty boy. The dude from last season was much better.
Yep I agree. He's definitely not worth it. Claire should dump him.



Sylar should've died. I don't like his character much. I've always disliked peter because of his keanu reeves-like acting. I like the black lady who mia(?) is staying with who can copy stuff.
Not sure about Sylar - don't agree with him losing his powers. Bit of a dull excuse.
Now that you mention it - he is doing some keanu reeves acting. But, overall it's an interesting character.



Overall I'm enjoying it. I'd like them to add a bit more sci-fi type stuff and take out some of the drama..it's not too bad though.Yep, I agree too. Less drama... it's starting to reek of "the bold and the beautiful"... which makes me vomit.

I am still enjoying it, but they had better get the lead out of their butts and start adding a bit more excitement or they just might start losing some of their audience...

‘Heroes’ Actress Panettiere Caught in Clash at Japanese Dolphin Slaughter Site

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=7487
(warning, graphic)

check out that link guys.

poor dolphins :( I've got respect for hayden for trying to stop it. It's too bad they didn't succeed. At least they drew a bit of attention to the issue I guess.

Tell me what you think.

‘Heroes’ Actress Panettiere Caught in Clash at Japanese Dolphin Slaughter Site

http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=7487
(warning, graphic)

check out that link guys.

poor dolphins :( I've got respect for hayden for trying to stop it. It's too bad they didn't succeed. At least they drew a bit of attention to the issue I guess.

Tell me what you think.
I had to turn it off. Those with co-existing conditions may want to avoid it. It is too graphic for me.

For those that can't stomach it:


Hayden Panettiere has attempted to rescue a pod of dolphins from being killed by Japanese fishermen.

The actress joined five other surfers in trying to block the animals from being driven into a cove for an annual slaughter.

However, the protesters were prevented from saving the creatures after fishermen blocked them with boat propellers and hit them with a boathook.

Speaking about the event, she told Sky News: "It was really frightening. Some of us were hit by the boathook. But in the end all we really worried about was the dolphins.

"It was so incredibly sad. We were so close to them and they were sky hopping, jumping out of the water to see us.

"One little baby dolphin stuck his head out and kinda looked at me and the thought that it's no longer with us is really hard to take."

The Heroes star is a keen marine conservationist and supporter of the campaign to save the Japanese dolphins.

The TV star has now returned to her LA home to avoid being arrested by the Japanese authorities for trespassing.

‘Heroes’ Actress Panettiere Caught in Clash at Japanese Dolphin Slaughter Site
Jerks There's some animals that should be left alone and not eaten. Especially the ones that are very intelligent, and endangered species. Asians tend to eat everything and anything though, fugu, monkey, dolphin, etc, etc. As a nation, they don't really have any regard for animals at all.

Good on her for doing that. Wonder what heroes would be like if she was arrested and sent to jail? :(

So, who do you think the BigBad is going around killing the older Supers? Mr. KP thinks it's (highlight this) Kenzei since Hiro really ticked him off.

Peter and Caitlin are bugging me. Peter, you know your name. Google yourself, call Nathan, and get over it, KTHXBAI.

Claire's stunt sucked. West is making her behave badly and that's not ClaireBear.

HRG and The Haitan, whoohoo! I love when Bennet goes all bad***.

The DunderTwins and Sylar...yawn. Monica getting a pat on the head and saving NOLA? doubleyawn.

Hello, Mohinder? This is your razor. I miss you. Love, Gillette.

Ando needs a life. I love Love LOVE Ando! but the plot device of the scrolls? yawn.

and yet I continue to watch. It's rather like "Buffy" seasons 6 and 7. They sucked pretty hard after the awesomeness of seasons 1-3 and the pretty darn coolness of seasons 4-5 but the worst episodes of Buffy beat anything else on TV. Same goes for "Heroes" right now.

(needs to dig out season 2 "Halloween" episode of "Buffy." Total classic!)

So, who do you think the BigBad is going around killing the older Supers? Mr. KP thinks it's (highlight this) Kenzei since Hiro really ticked him off.
Now, that's interesting! Hadn't thought of that. I thought it was just Matt's dad, but he'd put a red symbol on his photo to avoid suspicion. He can read minds after all - and from a distance too. But your theory makes a lot of sense, and would be more interesting, and would tie in Hiro's escapades.


Peter and Caitlin are bugging me. Peter, you know your name. Google yourself, call Nathan, and get over it, KTHXBAI.
Yeah - agree. Bloody Peter should just wake up. The memory loss arc is stupid. But I'm sure it'll tie in somewhere. It looks like they're bringing multiple story arcs together - like S1.


Claire's stunt sucked. West is making her behave badly and that's not ClaireBear.
Yeah stupid, and I'm hating West more and more. As ozchris said... he's a pretty boy. Pretty useless if you ask me.


Ando needs a life. I love Love LOVE Ando! but the plot device of the scrolls? yawn.
Yeah, Ando should have gone back with Hiro. Would have been a lot more interesting with those two playing off each other.

Hey, who is that Spongedaddy feller? He called it before it happened. That guys is a jeanyouus.

Too many characters. My wife and a friend of mine are having trouble keeping up. Of course my ADHD comes in handy here...:D

I am beginning to see the connection between the Hiro arc and the symbol that keeps showing up in the present day. My theory


*SPOILERS*




*YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED*

We saw in the last episode that Kensai is now a "bad guy." I think with his power he can be immortal and is the present day big bad as well. That's why his symbol is over everything.

Heroes' Creator Apologizes to Fans

Tim Kring admits mistakes were made at the beginning of season 2, but promises to get back on track

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''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us,'' says Kring of the love stories starring Claire and Hiro


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On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''

But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:

THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''

THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.

THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)

HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''

YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''

Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''



This makes me feel a little better. At least he admits this season hasn't been great. Hopefully he can turn it around like he says.

I'm still enjoying it :) just not as much as S1

I missed the last 2 Heroes episodes and caught up last night online (thank goodness for the networks putting the shows online - free!).

The last 2 episodes were the best thus far, and I'm right now watching tonights. I'm glad they're finally getting around to explaining the last 4 months.

I'm still not on board with the alejandro/maya story. I was pleasantly surprised with the kensai/adam storyline!


I'm also happy that Tim Kring admitted this season is less then stellar. I'm ready for it to be as good/better than last season - - hopefully this strike will stop soon for them to get back to work making this season better!

So, that means they're ending the season early? Dec 3rd? Huh?

The last ep was good, it was a return to the S1 pace. Although I saw that Adam was going to end up being the 'super baddy' from several episodes ago - the one where Hiro's dad gets killed. There was only one other person that I could think of that could survive a fall like that.

They do need to cut the romance - it's beginning to look like days of our lives. Bleargh, puke, vomit. And they need to setup Claire's boyfriend with a spectacular death - hopefully we won't see any more of him then.

I wonder what Adam wants to change in history? I don't think it'll be related to Hiro.....

Why did Hiro look sad about his father's death? Why didn't he just go back to a time when he was alive and rescue him? Why on earth do script writers think that time travel is linear? If you can travel through time - you can travel through time.

Why did Hiro look sad about his father's death? Why didn't he just go back to a time when he was alive and rescue him? Why on earth do script writers think that time travel is linear? If you can travel through time - you can travel through time.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->that is true if you can travel thru time you .. well you know the rest. :cool: But if you do that and change things what else are you changing? Each action has an equal reaction. Saving his father changes that but it will also change many many other things that he can not see right now. This power is one that can be way to abused, just the same as any of the other powers that the people have. You know what they say ultimate power corupts ultimatly. Remeber hiro's dad and the others his age learned this the hard way.

Never heard of the show, what network is it on?

Never heard of it? :confused: It's on NBC. You know, save the cheerleader, save the world (that was last season though).


OK, I would really like to see West go bye bye. It's not that he's a pretty boy, but because of his attitude. "I have awesome cool powers and love it, so everyone should love it." :rolleyes: People like that annoy me. Like his view is the only one on the planet to have. Then again, he is a teenager... ;) :p

I don't know...I don't think Adam is a real Big Bad. Hey, if you were 400 years old and looked as hot as you did at 36, wouldn't you have a god complex too?
Is Peter that easily swayed? Oo, and that kiss with Elle was *electricfying* bwahahahahahha!!!

Maya and Alejandro just need to go away. Boring, no value added, whatevs.

Although I love ClaireBear it was kind of refreshing to have a CB-free episode, along with Hiro. I've loves me some Hiro but good grief, Japan was ruts-villes. We did get Kenzei/Adam out of it though.

The Haitian Sensation...so he's the one who put Peter in the container!

Nathan, come here so I can run my fingers through your hair. *sigh* Natalie Maines (his real-life wife) is one lucky (Dixie) chick!

that is true if you can travel thru time you .. well you know the rest. :cool: But if you do that and change things what else are you changing? Each action has an equal reaction.Yes, I agree. It was more of a complaint against the writers, but I guess there'll probably be a reason for why Hiro re-appeared several months after he left, and not just after.


Never heard of the show, what network is it on?
It's good when you, (as in 'one'), find a great show a season and a half into it. You can then watch Heroes back to back for the first time. (Which is IMO the best way to watch it.)


OK, I would really like to see West go bye bye. It's not that he's a pretty boy, but because of his attitude.
Yep, I agree. He's a self-centered pretty-boy. I hope Claire ditches him. Actually he'd be a good uber-baddy sidekick, then I'd enjoy watching the character get killed off.
Does anyone else see the similarity between Superman and pretty-boy? Brothers? Maybe it's a cross-over into Smallville. maybe pretty-boy's real name is 'Clark', and the Haitan has erased all his memories of his previous life.

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Agree with what most of you guys have said. It is getting a bit better and is still very entertaining.

This show could be amazing and I hope the writers take advantage of that, maybe after the strike?

I think that season 1 had a lot of suspense in it, that's lost in season 2. Especially with Sylar. He's taken a back seat row this season, and it'll be interesting to see what he does. He might just regain his powers just at the wrong moment, and all hell will break loose.

Holy cow! OMG! *Boink!* falls over!

How much did this episode rock? So much it's not funny!

The Good:

All of it! There were no WonderTwins, no Monica. Granted, no male Petrellis but Mama Petrelli rocks the house whenever she's on-screen.

Mohinder, you are an #&@#^@*. I hate you. I hope Elle gets to "keep" you as her punching bag.

Good thing Mama Bennet didn't pack Mr. Muggles doggy bath! "Stings like a *****, doesn't it?" Bwahahahahaha!

Claire, you're selfish but really, you're a normal bratty 17 year-old girl. You got to hug HRG before...well, you know if you saw it. I admit, I cried! And West rather redeemed himself.

Yep, kinda figured out who killed Kaito. Hiro wants revenge. And I got some sweet Ando time! James Kyson Lee just slays me as Ando, so very cute!

Spoiler...you've been warned! Scroll down.
















!!!OMG!!! Mr. KP said, "Oh, that's Niki on the stretcher, getting Claire's blood."

Me: "No, that's a man's arm."

ACK! HRG? "Holy sh---" as the scene faded to black! What's the purpose of bringing him back?

Two more episodes? Are you kidding me? What a collosal rip-off! Guess I'll have to seek comfort in my Tivo'd "Kyle XY"s then onto the last season of "Angel." Grrrr.

The purpose is so he can be used as a pawn against Claire.
"Take my blood. Take as much as you want, just don't hurt my dad."*sob*

So much for the we have to have her blood to cure the virus line of BS. :rolleyes:

And it's only two more episodes because of the writer strike. Apparently per strike they had reworked this "finale" just in case, and a good thing too or we'd all be hanging worse then we are about to be. It's kinda nice someone in Hollywood prepared ahead of time.

How much did this episode rock? So much it's not funny!
Yep, a return to the season 1 style - woohoo! Yatta! It was back to the edge of the seat, nail-bitin', episodes. Will HRG be able to change time? You say that in the first encounter with Mohinder. Will destiny complete? Hiro seems to accept it now.



Mohinder, you are an #&@#^@*. I hate you. I hope Elle gets to "keep" you as her punching bag.
But, he thought he was doing the right thing. That's the general theme within Heroes. The boundaries between classic good and evil are blurred.
He still was a douche bag for doing it.



And West rather redeemed himself.
Yep, I have to agree with you there. Not so much of a pretty-boy and did something more than just pooncing around looking pretty.



Yep, kinda figured out who killed Kaito. Hiro wants revenge.
Yep, saw that coming three episodes ago.



ACK! HRG? "Holy sh---" as the scene faded to black! What's the purpose of bringing him back?
You can't have someone so popular dying off so early. Besides, it gives the writers more scope for bringing in some more stories. His role was getting a bit dull really - there's only so much protectin' you can do and I think people will get bored of it. This way, they can dramatically change his role, add in some memory loss/brain washing again - and hey presto! They get to change gears. The good become bad, the bad become good, yadda, yadda.

IGN had a good point when they asked why didn't Mohinder shoot him in the knee or something like that? I also agree with them that the Parkman arc is one of the strongest on the show. The show has been somewhat weak this season.

According to the series creator they are ending this chapter early because they understand that they want to give the fans a better story. I am hoping they go in a new direction.

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I'm so glad that Maya is gone too. There were just too many characters and too many parts to this half of the season. Maya and Alejandro did nothing to move the story along.

holy crap!! mama petrelli killed nathan (in a roundabout way).

*sigh* of course Syler's powers returned. . . .

Holy guacamole!

Maya gets shot then revived. *Yawn* Yet they killed Niki? WTH? I held back the tears for sweet Micah.

Peter, you're so pretty and powerful...but you're not smart, are you?

Hiro, "Flying Man!" Squee! Great Season 1 callback! And what did I get, 10 seconds of Ando? Boo, hiss. I love Ando so much!

The tears flowed for Nathan!

maya was revived? dang! I must have missed that!! I better re-watch online. . .


Kristen from E!online said there will be 3 deaths before january. they must be it (Nikki, Alejandro, and nathan). so sad :(

I found the final story to be meh. Hiro was great as always, but the killing off Nikki seemed very out of place. BTW

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I am 99.9% certain Noah shot Nathan. You see the back of his head in the final shot or so. I think having Mrs. Patrelli be so cold is interesting. I like the dude who plays Syler, but it's time for a new big bad. It was also interesting to see Hiro's character darken a bit by leaving Adam/Kenzi in a coffin.

Speaking of Noah/HRG I wasn't crazy about the deal he made with the company. He went on and on about how you can't trust them and trusted them to keep his family safe.

Oh yeah, also interesting that they started to turn Elle to the light side. Did you notice the smile on her face after she saved them.

Overall I would give this arc a B-. It had too many characters and was a bit disjointed.

Does anyone know if the writer's strike will effect a Jan start for the next chapter?

yes - it will. They re-wrote this last episode to act as a season finale in case the strike continues on. :(

I agree - Nikki's death was random. should have kept Maya dead, would have made more sense.

Yeah. It would have been nice to see an end to the wonder twins. :p

I think Mrs. Patrelli is going to be a real pain next season. Sure, she was cold seeming about it (saying it was necessary), but that line about Pandora's Box has me wondering if she might go for a bit of revenge for the death of Nathan.

Adam in a coffin was great! Too bad he's got alot of time, and the healing power to claw his way out, sooner or later.

One plot point that they left dead and buried, pun intended, is what mom did to Nathan's wife and kids. She is the one that tore that family apart. Also Peter left that poor girl in the future.

This show was served with some weak sauce this season, but it sounds like they know it. Let's hope next season is better. I loved Buffy, but it took a few seasons to really hit a great stride. This show is only one and a half seasons old.

I sure hope the strike doesn't delay the season's restart date. I guess I can look at the online "stuff" that they claim shows what is going to be happening when they return, but I won't hold my breath. I can't believe Nathan and Niki are dead...Nor that Sylar is back and as bad as ever. Too many loose ends...

I am well and truly hooked.

At least they realized that it was weaker this year. With that knowledge, I think the season could have been better if t wasn't cut short like it was.

It was a little weaker, I mean what they did to adom was a cop out. It was very anti climantic. But much of the blame goes to the writers strike, so much more could have been done. hope next season is better.

The tears flowed for Nathan!In Heroes, no one seems to be dead until they either have their head cut off, or, they're cremated... So, who knows. Will he survive?


Kristen from E!online said there will be 3 deaths before january. they must be it (Nikki, Alejandro, and nathan). so sad :(
D'oh!


It was also interesting to see Hiro's character darken a bit by leaving Adam/Kenzi in a coffin.
Oh yeah! And when he's finally released can you imagine how evil he's going to be? He won't stay in that coffin forever - he'll end up going mad.


I agree - Nikki's death was random. should have kept Maya dead, would have made more sense.
I think they're trying to reduce the number of characters in the story. I personally think this many characters is good. The more the better.


but that line about Pandora's Box has me wondering if she might go for a bit of revenge for the death of Nathan.
Kinda like, "an eye for an eye"?

Adam in a coffin was great! Too bad he's got alot of time, and the healing power to claw his way out, sooner or later.And ultra evil when he does.


Also Peter left that poor girl in the future.
And what happens to her now that the future has been changed? Does she dissappear? Does she suddenly zap back to the present? Mmmmmm.....


It was a little weaker, I mean what they did to adom was a cop out.
I think it was perfect. Hiro doesn't actually end up killing anyone, and they get rid of Adam, (or else give him cause to turn into a super baddy). What Hiro should have done, though is push him as far into the future as possible. The past can always affect the present, but the future can't.

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kristen from E!online said 1 or 2 of the 3 deaths will stick (likely Niki and possibly Nathan).

I don't want anyone to be dead (except possibly for Sylar or Adam)....sigh

Actually Adam isn't so bad. I don't mind his character. There's something 'not so evil' about him. Sorta like a nice guy turned sour by experience.

Whereas Sylar is evil to the core - yet he has very vague moments of regret.

So, even though Adam and Sylar are baddies they are opposites.

Well it is possible (I suppose) that Nicki lived. Not likely though. And while Nathan was shot he didn't die on screne, so if he's rushed off to the hospital......

I have a hard time with shows like this believing that someone is dead until I know it's their body rotting in the ground.

Couldn't Peter go back in time and save Nathan? I know he has some trouble controlling that particular power, but it's possible.

Or...might they find out that Peter's blood can heal him?

IMO the show needs a new, really evil bad guy. Sylar is okay, but he has grown somewhat tiresome. I want to see a Joker, Lex Luthor, Apocalypse level bad guy. Someone had mentioned Adam eventually escaping and being driven mad by the prison Hiro put him in. That idea has potential.

Someone had mentioned Adam eventually escaping and being driven mad by the prison Hiro put him in. That idea has potential. I think that the writers are setting Adam up to be a superbaddy, with possibly Sylar as a sidekick. Adam has the management skills for pulling off being a superbaddy, but I don't think the actor has the acting skills. He's too much of a nice guy - even his bad guys are nice.