Emotional Intelligence and Social Intelligence.

For the life of me I can't remember the authors name (he wrote both), and I have the book out in my car now, but these books are incredible.

While they don't specifically address ADD/ADHD, they do provide great information on the importance of emotion, and other people's emotions to our own well being and our very thought processes.

This can be very enlightening, particularly to someone familiar to what ADHD can mean for an individual. Specifically, I'm speaking of the tendency for many with ADD/ADHD to be particularly sensitive emotionally.

Not only is (contrary to popular belief) emotion critical for good decision making (without emotional weighting in thought we'd all be clinically psychotic), it is processed seperately and mostly outside our awareness in it's own pathways. Pathways that are substantially faster than our other cognitive processes.

Knowing the long term impact of these phenomenon, their social consequences, and their physiological ones for the individual seems important to me. If nothing else to be forwarned is to be forearmed.

incidentally, when emotion goes awry, as in mood and anxiety disorders, it can severely distort and undermine our cognitive functioning.

:eek: He rises! Nice to see you again, I have been sidekickless.

Yeah, well I missed you guys. You have no idea how much. Things have just been.... Rough.

Luckily they make us big dumb swedes durable.

You know, and this is a teeny bit off topic (sue me I've got ADD), I've been seeing more and more references to ADD in publications on cognitive science and neurology, and I have to say I like that.

You know, and this is a teeny bit off topic (sue me I've got ADD), I've been seeing more and more references to ADD in publications on cognitive science and neurology, and I have to say I like that.Well its certainly about time they realised we are a significant portion of the population isn't it? ;)

the stuff I've read to date usually references our differences in function. Temple Grandin uses ADD as an example in some of her books, and a sort of bridge between the differences between autistics and normal folk neurologically (although autism and ADD are distinct, some of the functional manifestations are similar and different in those cases mostly by degree).

I TOLD Y'all it was Brain Pudding! Hah! I sensed this all along (some forum game told me I was a seer) :D

I was a seer once. But I lost my damn glasses and now I don't see so damn well.

I think I am getting a vision...no wait that's just blurring because I need bifocals and me havey not right now. Sigh!

Speaking of seers . . .



Roo: What's the matter, Tigger?

Tigger: Phew. Oh, thank goodness. I was just getting a little seasick from...

[gulps]

Tigger: seeing too much.
It has just occurred to me why Tigger has always been my favourite character from Winnie the Pooh; he's one of us. :D

Tigger: Hello, Rabbit! I'm Tigger. T-I...

Rabbit: Please! Please! Don't spell it! Oh, just look at my beautiful garden.

Tigger: Yuck! Messy, isn't it?

Rabbit: Messy? Messy? It's ruined! It's ruined, Tigger! Why can't you ever stop bouncing?

Tigger: Why? That's what Tiggers do the best.

E-boys are a lot like tiggers. We, for example refer to ourselves in plural when there is clearly only one of us. E-boys are a bit bouncier, a lot bigger (much more expensive to feed), and lack stripeyness entirely. Also we don't have tails to bounce on....

Personally, I think we're better looking too. If you can't lie to yourself, who can you lie to?

So I'm reading this guy's book and he finally references ADD/ADHD and he just dismisses it as non-existent. I am sooooo writing him a nasty letter inviting him to elaborate on why his disagrees with so many of his peers on the psych side, nuerologists, and geneticists who have a very different view.

I rather suspect he is referring to the tendency for GP (general practictioners) to slap an ADD diagnosis on kids without bothering to do a DSM-IV screening. However, he didn't say that explicitly and not really even implicitly. Statements like the one he made get used by people who don't want to believe ADD exists as a justification for their position (this guy is after all a psychologist). "Oh look here's an educated expert who says it's all crap!" GRRRRRR!

I am serious about this too. I may not think ADD is a "True pathological disorder" in the sense many doctors seem to, but that doesn't mean the differences in function (the ones that often end up causing the problems that got it labled as a disorder in the first place) aren't very real, and very distinct. There are huge amounts of supporting evidence for their existence, including variants of specific genes that code for dopamine uptake and dopamine production that are different in people with ADD. It's a well established fact that the syndrome exists, and this guy's statement is at best misleading and at worst downright mallicious. He is soooo gonna hear about it from me. Of course, if he can produce a reason for his position that isn't utter crap I'm willing to listen. I just very much doubt it.

I'll be polite, of course, but I won't sugar coat what I've got to say to him. Maybe he'll do something about it and maybe not.

Other than this particularly nasty little sentence in his book (and a few statements about bullying behavior that toe the 'conventional wisdom' line in psych circles, but have been shown by evidence to be unsupported by facts at all ) it is well written and still a good read for many good reasons for someone with ADD. I'm still steamed though.

I'll be polite, of course, but I won't sugar coat what I've got to say to him. Maybe he'll do something about it and maybe not.

Sugar coating, makes message sticky.





-boys are a lot like tiggers. We, for example refer to ourselves in plural when there is clearly only one of us. E-boys are a bit bouncier, a lot bigger (much more expensive to feed), and lack stripeyness entirely. Also we don't have tails to bounce on....

Personally, I think we're better looking too. If you can't lie to yourself, who can you lie to?

You are too funny.





Rabbit: Messy? Messy? It's ruined! It's ruined, Tigger! Why can't you ever stop bouncing?

Tigger: Why? That's what Tiggers do the best.

Hmmm sounds pretty hyper ADD to me tooo.

Tigger's one of us.

Pooh's one of us.
... :-) ...

newideas.net add_types (http://www.newideas.net/add_types.htm)

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Winnie the Pooh Type ADD
- Inattentive, distractible, disorganized. Nice, but lives in a cloud.
~yes~
Tigger Type ADD
- Inattentive, impulsive, hyperactive, restless, bouncy.
~yes~
Eeyore Type ADD
- Inattentive, with chronic low-grade depression.
~yes~
Piglet Type ADD
- Trouble shifting attention, excessive worry, easily startled.
~yes~
Rabbit Type ADD
- Trouble shifting attention, inflexible, argumentative.
~yes~
Troubled Type ADD
- Irritable, aggressive, impulsive, defiant, disobedient. Learning problems. ~yes~

a spectrum of evolutionary change
from bottom[troubled] to top[ad(h)d] ... {{{.}}} ... to Christopher Robin

~kid {{{once more}}}~

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