I have just very recently been diagnosed with ADD. I'm a 29 year old college student who's dropped out of university 3 times and just wants to get a stupid piece of paper. This diagnosis has finally illuminated the path to the light at the end of the tunnel (make sense?). However, I find myself very addicted to weed. I have been a daily smoker for 3 years now, and I can't go a few waking hours before hitting the bong. Anyone else stuck in this hazy rut? Any tips for cutting down that work for ADD'ers?

And has anyone come across an ADD forum local to Toronto/Ontario residents? I want to see what kinds of hobbies local ADD'ers are into....

Thanks for any responses and thanks for such an excellent site!

Have you talked to your Dr about smoking? Have you started taking any meds since you have been DXed?

I think 12-step programs are wonderful, personally. Have you looked into Narcotics Anonymous?:)

Weed is self medication. Used to do it myself. The addiction for me was the relief from feeling stressed and down, but eventually even the weed didn't do that for me. In fact, it did the opposite eventually. I'd say the same as above, see psychiatrist/psychologist and ask for help with it. I have been under the impression that pot is specifically not a good thing for ADDers ... but I could be wrong on that . its more of the rumor mill kind of info. (If anyone has more information on that, please tell).

As for seeing the light, I can certainly understand that. I was 36 when I found out. By the way, I went to college 3 times to get my piece of paper. The last time was so easy, because I actually had medication and proper diagnosis, and school became so much easier. Until then, school was like climbing the highest mountain all the time. After meds, undergraduate school was comparitively like going roller blading down hill. Thats how much of a difference diagnosis, treatment and medication meant for me. I took a few courses in grad school, and they were a bit harder, but they say grad school is much harder so that makes sense.

Welcome here!

J

I have talked to my doctor about it, but he just says "you should quit". well duh...*that* much I know. He put me on Effexor XR 7 months ago for stress and anxiety (I started getting panic attacks for the first time ever) which I'm coming off of very slowly as we speak. I'm interested to see how I'll feel once I'm off all meds...I started smoking cigs more since I got on them, maybe I'll want to smoke less once I'm off. .... I feel like I'm rambling.

Healthwiz....what meds did you take and what did it feel like? What does it do to you that makes school suddenly easier? My diagnosis for ADD involved some hefty IQ and performance tests, and I am (supposedly) in the top 99.6th percentile over-all...city college should not be this hard, if you know what i mean heh.

First of all I was misdiagnosed for years. Then I saw a neurologist, and was diagnosed with sleep apnea, quite correctly. I was treated for the sleep apnea, and it was a major wake up for me! Pun intended but true! And then I was taken off the wrong medications since the treatment for sleep apnea made it obvious I did not have another misdiagnosed disorder. Then I was diagnosed for ADD and put on Welbutrin and Adderall. Life got much better - I went and finished my BA and grad "Cum Distincion" out of a class of over 2000 graduating students. this was a big day for me!

I suggest you might get more details by searching my former posts and find those related to diagnosis and sleep apnea, and add diagnosis...etc. I have written a lot of detailed posts on this topic.

I also spotted the problem in my daughter in 2nd grade, and she was treated for both sleep apnea and ADD - and now is a straight A's top achiever in school. We are a smart family, with specific learning diswabilities, Sleep apnea, and ADD. When treated we do very well.

Good luck and I hope that helps

Jonathan

Originally posted by zoltan
I have talked to my doctor about it, but he just says "you should quit". well duh...*that* much I know. .

Don't you just love the DRs. It's like the ones who tell me I should lose weight...They just don't get it.

Tara! Zoltan!

I asked a doctor how I could get my sleep schedule on track to be consistent after I explained how inconsistent it was. He was a Director in charge of the sleep studies department at a hospital, and he laughed and said wake up at the same time every day, and he had no other advice. He said any other advice was useless and untrue.

I have found that other info he gave me was pretty weak too, and it has been challenged by other better doctors. There are good docs and bad docs, like everything in life.

J

As a current pothead, I understand how hard it is to quit - I've quit a bunch of times! I had one Psychiatrist who told me not to worry about it, that pot was not that bad, but of course I already had gone through University, so I didn't have to study.
Most substance abuse is related to low self-esteem, so I would say that to quit, you also have to do something about your self-esteem or the quiting won't stick (I'm asuming here, but a lot of ADDers have self-esteem issues). See about talking to a psychiatrist - it may help you in other areas as well (I know mine did). Meds may help you. You also might want to ask your doctor about Wellbutrin (a.k.a. Zyban). It's often used for ADHD, but it has the advantage of helping with quiting bad habits. Mostly it's used to help people quit smoking tobacco, but I think it might also help smoking pot (?).
Also, try to make it as diffucult as possible for yourself to "connect" - throw away the phone number(s) of your supplier, and try not to purchase any grass. I know with myself, if I have it, I will smoke it - so if you can cut yourself off, it's much easier.
You may have resources available at school to help with substance abuse - ask at the health office.
Personally, I'd use the resources at school first, before going to your family doctor - the reason? Your request for help will go in your medical records and if anyone ever needs to see your file (like an insurance company, or certain types of employers, etc.) the substance abuse might look bad. I had this happen to me and I really wish I had not gone to my family doctor first. Also some doctors may not give you stimulants if they think you are prone to substance abuse.
Good luck,
Greg

I don't think there's anything wrong with a physician saying "you should quit"....It's that they don't offer any ideas as to HOW which is what I have trouble with.....i.e. resources, etc.

Substance abuse is a very very difficult thing....to deal with....physically and mentally.....One thing is probably true...Chances are whatever route you take -- you likely cannot do it alone......

Some thoughts that may help you;

Even for a genius, I act stupid enough sometimes, so I don't really need any chemical help with that.

If you have a bad day, then that seems like a good excuse to smoke, and if you have a good day, then that seems like a good excuse to smoke, and if the day is just average or boring (and ADDers are easily bored) then that seems like a good excuse to smoke. So you need to see that smoking will get you nowhere you can't get using your own brain without it, and probably a lot more efficiently and healthier in the long term.

It's also helpful to (and I mean no offense by this, it's kind of a tough-love thing) look at people who do smoke and see where they are in life. I once looked over at the guy in the car next to me who was blaring 20-year old music out of his twenty year old camaro (replete with primered fenders), and his twenty year old mullet hairstyle, who thought he was just so cool. And he was well over 30. I just thought to myself, good god, please don't let that happen to me.

Now don't get me wrong, he may have been a really nice guy, but he obviously was just squeaking by in life, and maybe I'm making an assumption here, but I'd be willing to bet it was because he refused to grow up, stop smoking pot or whatever.

I really, really hope you don't have a mullet, because I probably just offended the heck out of you. If so, please take this as constructive advice rather than as an attack, like when a friend told me I should cut my nose hairs. He's now my best friend.

And as for quitting, I'd suggest that psychologically, it's setting the bar kind of high to say, I quit forever, this is the last day I will EVER smoke. You see what I'm saying here? I finally got myself off cigarettes, by just not smoking TODAY, and not worrying about whether I had the strength and willpower to not smoke again EVER again, for my entire life. Just when you get the urge to smoke, go do something else. As an ADDer, you'll probably get all engrossed in that and completely forget about smoking. Heck, all those things you've meant to fix and "haven't found time for" will probably suddenly get fixed.

Since you're so into it that you need it every 2-3 hours, maybe try just extending that to 6 hours at first, just to get yourself started. Notice how much easier things are when your buzz wears off. Then go for longer and longer until you can have one whole day sober. Do something cool that day that you can't do buzzed. Or go somewhere you can't go when you're buzzed.

You'll also need some straight friends to hang out with, since ADDers are notoriously impulsive, and having it available to you will basically gaurantee you can't quit. Meet some new people and develop those relationships. They'll be very exciting because there will be a depth to those friendships that doesn't revolve around pot. As it stands right now, you have friendships that are kind of one-note, which compared to relationships outside of pot will be more like a symphony. Again, no offense intended, and that's a vast oversimplification, but I hope you see my point.

Once you're off pot for about 2-3 weeks, you will notice how much clearer everything is, how much sharper you are. And I will bet you'll like that feeling, having your brain back, being able to use your brilliant mind, talk to people, make positive steps forward.

A forcefor good

Good Advice. I quit and found out my friendships were "single note" in depth. While they may have at one time been based upon mutually liking each others company, later they became to be first and formost based upon our unspoken agreement to smoke pot together. My relationships with these friends really seemed boring and juevenile and undeveloped when the pot was taken out of the picture. I was hurt to find out that all the friends I had, were no longer really friends, not entirely because they didn't want me as a friend, but also because without the pot in my brain I could see what they were doing to themselves, and a friendship was no longer viable, because it wasn't fun to see what they were doing, and it wasn't fun for them either, being reminded by my non-toking presence that what they were doing to themselves was entirely voluntary. I could see my path was diverging at the fork in the road, my presumed friends would keep smoking pot incessently and do as little with their lives as possible, and I would abstain and choose to make my life interesting in reality, not in fantasy. I hoped that pursuing a truly interesting life based in reality (if there really is such a thing) would turn out better than having a drug induced fantasy; eventually the fantasy has to wear thin and get old and then where does the happiness get derived from?

This happened at the ripe age of 15! I was a pot head throughout 9th grade, intensely so, and smoked incessently, due to the people I hung around with. It was not entirely my fault who I hung with, I was at a boarding school, rich kids, and they all had tremendous access to drugs! Unvelievable access! And they were my roommates and my dorm buddies - smoking the pot and the hashish on a regular basis was the norm that year. The next year I opted not to return there due to the high usage of drugs and a frightening drug hallucination. I kept toking though, until the end of 10th grade. Then I went on an adventure that summer, OUTWARD BOUND for 26 days, and did not smoke reefer for that time period, and when I returned from the woods, I did not return to the ritualistic habit. Life was too sweet, too good, the air too fresh, my brain working finally and clear of the influence of the hoocheemama. When I came back and declined offers to get high with my buddies, it was soon apparent we had little in common, thats how important the hoochee was to these "friends".

Friendships are deeper than that, real ones are.

Good luck with quitting, and take it from me, I do not regret quitting, it put me ahead by light years. I discovered I can get high anytime I want, on life, in meditation, through my family, through activities, even through hang-gliding and horse back riding, or just being with my kids. Getting high is all relative, it doesn't require the hoocheemama, but you have to quit to discover that.

The wonderful thing is, you can do anything you put your mind to!

Jonathan

zoltan, please keep us appraised of your progress here, it'll help motivate you, and also I bet you'll be shocked at how long you spend doing certain things, I know I was when I did the same thing...

We'll be praying for you buddy! You can do it!

Originally posted by healthwiz
...We are a smart family, with specific learning diswabilities...
and speech impwediments? ;) j/k

Anyways, I got diagnosed in college and I found that adderall somehow gave me motivation to not smoke anymore because i realized i could do the work and do it well. It has that effect on cigarettes, i find that my cravings go away and cigs dont do anything for me when I take adderall.

oh i realized i forgot to say a response to your post:

anywho, go with the "i wont smoke today" plan, little by little. just once? in the beginning of the first smeester of college (last sept) i smoked pot everyday, several times a day, did ****ty in school, couldnt stop smoking becuase i loved it too much and it was just fun. it was the only break at the end of the day of studying and i just wanted it. however after stoppping for just one day, i the routine got dismantled and it wasnt such a big deal. now i just smoke once a week or something, nothing regular, just whenever. if u want to keep smoking, i suggest no more than 2-3 times a week, apparently (according to my psychiatrist at college) thats the average amount of times one needs to smoke for the thc to accumulate-->pothead. so if u keep it at once or twice a week, it wont be bad, and wont make u a pothead.

well it's been quite a while since i started this thread, and i apologize for not updating it until now. thank you all for the suggestions. it's been 10 days now since i've smoked.......a cigarette! my gf and i have decided that since weed is free and not nearly as addictive (we don't think) as cigs, that we'd quit those now and get that over with. so far, so good. since i quit smoking those, I got back into the gym to start GAINING some weight back (5'11", 125lb of skin and muscle). since my doc put me on effexor 7 months ago, i lost 15-20 lbs. when i don't excercise, i lose weight. funny how that works heh. i'm now on my last couple of weeks on the meds before i'm off them completely, and already have so much more energy and desire to be active. I've put together a scedule for mon-fri to keep track of all my classes, work times, workout times, and time every monday to plan for my week ahead. i feel like a changed man...which makes me forget to smoke pot half the time!! I had a job interview at Toronto1 last week, a new television station here in Toronto (obviously) that i'm super excited about.

*takes a breath to catch up to himself*

am i an add case or what? heheheheh blah blah blah blah


anyhoo....so that's my update. no cigs, less pot, better at school, more organized, and a few new lights at the end of a shorter tunnel!

oh yea, and my buddy and i are almost finished producing our first drum and bass track, so if there are any heads in here, pm me and i'll send you a sample :)

Send me a sample. Love to hear it.

Congrats on the amazing progress, and following a plan with a significant other! Wow! Applause! Applause!

I understand the THC stays in the system a few days, so it is best to not smoke weed more than once to twice a week, if you are going to do it at all.

Free weed? What a concept! What country to do you live in!
You must be living in Groyorowen....

Jonathan

Congrats Zoltan,
It sounds like you're on a good upward spiral. It's amazing how much less you want to smoke (grass) when you've got other things on the go. Cigarettes are so much harder to quit than almost anything else, so you know if you can give up those...
Pot is not physically addictive, but it is psychologically. But as long as you're in control of it, and not the other way around my opinion is that it's mostly harmless - mostly.
I have cut way down on my own smoking too in the last little while - it was getting to be too much - but I don't think I'll ever quit for good - I find it too enjoyable.
Best of luck with the job interview - I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
By the way - where do you get the free weed? That's a number I'd like to have! Not from Molson's I hope :-)
Regards,
Greg

Addiction??? Depends on how you look at it... Self Medicating is more like it... For those of you who know me, you already know that I grew up in a crack house and a coke wh*** for a mother. Never had meds, just a good slap every few hours... When I was 14 I started pinching my mom's or whoever her latest drug buddy was t the time stash's. Only weed, never anything else. But, it helped me sleep and slow down. I use legal means now to treat my adhd. But, I just quit the weed outright. Works for some like that, doesn't for others. You really have to get away from the people who do it and supply you with it to. If, not every time the blunt is passed you will be in line for it. I moved to another state, with no friends, no family, just my dog to get away from my mom and that lifestyle. Now, after 7 months I am great, my dog is better and I am loving it.

zoltan,

Glad to hear about the cigarette plan, hope it works for you.

Here's what I know about pot and addiction: I know a number of people who needed AA or NA to get off of it. While marijuana may not have the physically addiction of opiates, such as heroin, or the devistating life-altering consequences such as cocaine offers, the emotional need is as great for some people as say, gambling, which is strong enough to have found the necessity for organizations such as Gamblers Anonymous.

As ADDers, we have a greater tendency toward addictive behavior. But, like drinking, gambling and smoking weed are socially acceptable behaviors in many circles, and many people, including ADDers can successfully drink, gamble and smoke weed in moderation.

A problem with marijuana is often far less easy to indicate than other drugs, because it doesn't usually carry with it the same devistating financial ruin that other drugs possess. Here are just a sample of questions one might ask oneself. Bear in mind that I'm not saying that a "yes" answer to any of these questions indicates you have a problem, but if there are more than two Yes's, maybe you could try to go to a meeting to find out more. It certainly wouldn't hurt you.

1) Do you smoke marijuana daily?
2) Do you smoke before or during the workday?
3) Do you sell weed to keep your supply cost-free (or any other reason, for that matter)?
4) Have you been arrested for possession of weed?
5) Have you dealt with addiction for any other drug, including alcohol?
6) Have you lost a job because of, or been repremanded for your use of marijuana?
7) Do you feel that your life is going nowhere?
8) Have several members of your family or your circle of friends told you that you should probably "lay off the weed"?

Like I said earlier--whether you answered "yes" or "no" to any of these questions; the ultimate determination of whether or not you have a problem lies with you. I hope this helps.

If you decide you want to try NA, you can get a list of meetings in your area at www.na.org

Hi zoltan,


I have to agree with the others, it would be a good idea to get involved in some type of AA or NA group in your area and if you don't like it, you can just stop going. You already have the willingness to quit, so you are half way there. Going into a rehab program or AA/NA without the desire to quit is a losing battle.

I toked for years and all it did was mask my anxiety and depression. When I tried to quit it was so hard, but had I known I had these disorders, it would have made it easy to quit or at least somewhat easier. It would quit, go back to it, quit and go back over and over again. When I joined the Navy, I made up my mind to stop smoking all together. Things were fine while I was in boot camp but the day I graduated, a large group of us headed out into town and rented some hotel rooms in preperation of a huge graduation ceremony. We were eating and drinking and having a good old time when in walked the recruit company leader with a big fat joint hanging out of his mouth. In the matter of seconds, I was toking again which was really freaking stupid considering I had to take a drug test in just four days. Thankfully back then, the urine samples were tested randomly and by the grace of God, mine wasn't tested.

I was so grateful that I vowed not to smoke again but a few weeks later I was out with some friends and ended up caving in again. I felt like a failure who was headed for disaster.

Getting to the point, I smoked regularly after that. Almost every day after work, I would light up. I wanted so badly to quit so I went to an AA meeting out in town. The things I learned there were amazing and helped me to finally quit. The key to me quitting was to replace the activity of smoking with something else. One day I would go to the gym, another day I would write a letter to my parents and so on. After about two weeks of this I felt better, wasn't living with the fear of getting busted and I wondered why I ever started in the first place.

There are times to this day that I think about smoking weed because of my anxiety, but I know the end result will just increase my anxiety.

I was addicted to pot for years. In the last 2 years of my addiction I was actively trying (unsucessfully) to quit. I tried excercising, meditating, yoga, Prozac, Buspar, Effexor, 12 step programs, etc...with no sucess.

Then I sucessfully stopped for a few weeks (I had done this a few times before) and was, as usual, feeling very depressed. I decided to see a psychiatrist and was perscribed Wellbutrin. It worked great on my depression, and helped clear me of any desire to smoke pot like nothing else ever did. I have now been pot-free for over 6 months (never made it this far before) and have not, at any time, even been tempted to smoke. Me and my doctor think that my quitting could be assisted by the Wellbutrin just as it helps many people quit smoking ciggaretes since Wellbutrin and Zyban are the same thing.

Jason

I got through a period recently where I was taking regular doses of pot to try and help my symptoms of ADHD. I've been clean now for several weeks and in retrospect it was quite inappropriate.

Breaking habits can be tough and I'm glad to hear that the meds are helping you stay stopped. Of course I'm a big fan of fixing what I can of the underlying causes of substance abuse, but I'm not going to knock what I haven't tried. ;^)

Meds are a complicated thing and react differently for different people. I like the dex for the fact that it's so old, well known and relatively simple in it's chemistry and reactions. Good quality healthcare professionals are very valuable in finding out what works with an objective eye.

For me the stimulants are a gift from the gods as far as I can tell and grass seems to do nothing to enhance my progress and more than a couple of things that stand in the way of my overall health.

Good luck with the path away from the smoke.
ian

Bro, THE EXACT SAME THING IS HAPPENING TO ME!!!! I smoked weed all last year. Every ******* day after school I would go into my sisters plastic toyhouse on the porch, and just light up. I would have severe social anxiety, I wouldnt even talk to girls, and got very depressed. I almost threw up before work every day. BTW, smoking is very bad for people with ADD/ADHD. Potheads develop the same symptoms of people with ADD/ADHD, such as: low motivation, low attention span, and negative thoughts. When you have ADD and smoke, the symptoms of ADD get TWICE as bad!!!! I've tryed to stop smoking for soooo long. Every time I swear to God that I'm gonna quit. Now, I still smoke almost every day, but I'm gonna take ur guys advice and quit one day at a time. It's much easier to quit if you'r taking a med for ADD, because potheads with ADD tend to dwell on ****, such as smoking pot. And adderall and other stimulants will put the focus on productive things you can do. I took adderall when I bought it from a friend, and I didnt think about smoking at all. I was so work oriented and so used to partying, that I got depressed from not wanting to party any more! How messed up is that? But anyways, good luck buddy. Ill be rooting for ya. We're in this together!

Well a lot has happened since I started this post, and I'm excited, no, THRILLED to say that I haven't touched anything in over a week...the longest span in almost a decade!! I feel so GOOD and CLEAN and and and....I'm just so stoked to have finally been able to take a break from pot. The first few nights were a bit uncomfortable with hot and cold sweats, but the feeling of waking up alert every morning no matter how much sleep I get is UNBELIEVABLE. Everyone around me can't believe how much better my mood is, how much better I look and sound, and how much more motivation I have in general. I was really getting down on myself in the past few months because I'm in my last semester and was getting terrified of graduating (the first thing I'm graduating since high school, after dropping out 3 times from university) and I have no idea what I want to do once I'm done.

Now, I haven't turned into any sort of anti-marijuana activist or anything. I'm planning on taking a break for at least 5 weeks to ensure that everything is out of my system so I know for once what I'm really like, because every day I feel better and better about myself. I'm trying to climb more regularly, and I played squash yesterday for the first time in YEARS! (I can barely move today, which feels great). I still believe that everyone needs some form of vice, and I still prefer weed over drinking as my hard drug days are long over, but I'm not ready to turn my addiction into a rare social activity, but that's my plan for long-run (for now).

To anyone thinking of quitting, try it!! Give it 2-4 weeks, and really see how you feel about yourself. It only takes a few days to get over the worst of it, and you really have to find things to do to pass the time (6 hours of Xbox helps sometimes), but the difference is outstanding. This is coming from someone who smoked at least half an ounce per week of high-quality indoor for many years non-stop.

If anyone needs encouragement, pm me...I'll try to help if I can, because I'm living example that it can be done, and it's completely worth it!

Zoli

Kewlio.. a change is as good as a rest!

Keep us posted.
ian

I have never liked pot, or any downers. When I did drugs I always did chemicals, but not speed cause it didn't do anything for me (I know why now) Anyway, to this day I can't take anything that downs me. Every 3 or 4 years I might throw my back out of wack and I can't tolerate the muscle relaxes.

I'm extremely skinny, crave sugar, have an addictive personality to things like everquest, porn and message boards.

I wonder if anyone else is like that.

I'm extremely skinny, crave sugar, have an addictive personality to things like everquest, porn and message boards. Did I say porn? I meant poems, I'm addicted to poems.

I'll try to summarize my advice...

I smoke pot ocassionally but most of the time I feel uncomfortable when I'm stoned. My boyfriend is in your shoes he has smoked forever and he can't quit. He can do anything stoned. I used to smoke everday in highschool. I was diagnosed after I had already quit though. What helped me quit was HAVING FUN. Of all things having fun helped me quit. But it really works. I mean go out with your friends and have fun without pot. BUT Do something active so your not sitting around thinking about getting high. Getting active for me really helped clear the haze so to speak. Endorphins are like no other drug i've ever experienced. You get those from excercise, and your brain produces them.

Or focus all your efforts on a goal that doesn't involve the use of pot. Like getting a date or starting an excercise routine or a hobby that makes you active. I think it's all about replacing your habit with something more positive. Or hyperfocusing on something that makes you forget about pot. Especially with ADD. With my knowledge of the subject we ADDers always need stimulus. Tapping the foot, shaking the leg, twiddling the thumbs, counting tiles on the floor, finding a pattern in the wallpaper, humming a song in our head, or being on a drug which is kind of calming in a way compared to tapping, humming, twiddling, and counting. We always have to occupy ourselves with something. You know what I mean?

If you are getting high before class or work and go about your day stoned I think it's going to be a little bit harder for you. Because then your used to being stoned and it's still going to feel like somethings missing. Start a really wild hobby. That's my advice.

I think something else that helped me was my antidepressants which, I'm off them which is why I'm smoking again. I used to take wellbutrin and adderall. Those two drugs mixed with pot was just a bad combo. I pretty much couldn't smoke pot without freaking out because my heart was racing so much or I'd feel really dizzy. Getting stoned just made me feel too messed up.

I'd like to add another plug for Wellbutrin. In both my own personal experience and one other person close to me, it was a tremendous help in quitting pot.

I personally wasn't even planning on quitting pot when I started the Wellbutrin. It just "happened." The other person I mentioned used it specifically with the goal of quitting.

I should also note that I was on Adderall before the Wellbutrin, and the Adderall had, if anything, the opposite effect; it made me want to smoke more.

Let me describe a bit how I think it worked for me.

First, the Wellbutrin seemed to increase the level of some particular aspect of my psychology; there was a certain type of stimulation that it provided (certainly different from the Addreall), which brought my baseline, not-high-on-pot mind much closer to the "high" state. I'm not saying I felt high on the Wellbutrin, I'm saying that one particular "feeling" or "emotion" or "subjective mental state" that I got from smoking pot is also promoted by the Wellbutrin.

When I craved pot, I was, I assume from my experience, craving this particular feeling/emotion/mental state more than if not rather than the "fun" stuff that I associated with being high. Getting that feeling/emotion/mental-state from the Wellbutrin meant that my cravings themselves were significantly diminished.

Maybe because I was already at a higher baseline and didn't have as far "up" to go, the experience of getting high on pot was significantly less desirable when on the Wellbutrin. Maybe in part because I was already in that "good place" from the Wellbutrin, when I got smoked pot, it seemed like there was a large chunk of the high that was absent. (Of course it easily could have been something entirely different about the Wellbutrin that was blocking a particular response to the THC.) I got the usual altered state of perception, munchies and later fatigue, but I didn't feel "high," really. I felt altered, but not lifted, or at least not nearly as much. Also, it seemed like I would get "stuck" thinking about unimportant or distressing topics, in ways I've never before experienced with pot (of course I've experienced the normal paranoid, self-conscious, self-critical effects from pot, but what was new from the Wellbutrin was being "stuck" on these types of thoughts, and other thoughts as well).

So both on the craving level (the part of me that "wanted" pot even when I had good reasons not to use it, the part of me that would be saddened or depressed when I realized I couldn't smoke even though I wanted to, and the part of me that was always thinking about when my next opportunity was to get high, resulting in changing other plans and my lifestyle for the purposes of more plentiful opportunities), and on the rational decision level (the part of me that analyzed the pros and cons of smoking before making a decision), the Wellbutrin changed things so that my decisions frequently (and eventually, always) ended up being to not smoke pot (probably because it was a much less enjoyable experience and so less choice-worthy).

So, I highly reccomend giving it a try to anyone, not just ADDers. Although I suppose there's a chance it will work much better for someone with ADD, who may be addicted for ADD-related reasons.

Keep us posted. Everyone has wildly different results but it's nice to hear when someone makes some headway. Good on ya.
Cheers!