:eek: I don't think anyone in this forum at least not most of us with adhd are looking for a magical pill to take away our adhd symptoms totally, that is just not realistic.

But the reason why alot of adhd people want the optimal dose of a particular drug is because we all live in a world that is not so understanding of the difficulties we encounter everyday and how they can severly impact our way of life.So excuse all of us who seem to keep repeating the same thing about our medication not working, it's just that we've suffered for so long and we just need encouragement, because remember that part of having adhd is being impatient.:mad:

So I think I can speak for alot us add people who seem to be impatient about finding the right treatment, because without it, we won't be able to be productive in this majority non-add world, and non-productivity leads to even bigger problems!!!

I'm pretty sure just about every one here knows that there is no cure for adhd, so I would ask that no-one else post any replies thinking that we want a miracle pill (that is an assumtption and I think it is very rude) we just want to be able to live some what of a more stable life so that we don't have to depend on others for help. I think being independent and being able to take care of yourself is what every human deserves to have!!:rolleyes:

While I certainly will not refute there has been several post accusing those who are seeking the proper medication dosage of wanting a magic pill, I hadn't really noted entire threads on the subject. I will admit I haven't read every thread in this section only those that capture my interest.

The problem with freedom of speech is the freedom to say annoying stuff and some do seem to capitalize on exercising this freedom.

There is no such thing as a magic pill any more than there is a tooth fairy, most do realize this. However medications, even the perfect dose is found, are not the entire answer to treating ADD in the long term. That is a point worth making and has little to do with accusations. By the way I have been on ADD medications sense 1993.

I never said that medications was the final end of treatment, you are misinterpreting what I am saying.
Since this is the medication part of the adhd forum, it's only normal that I would only mention medication at this point.

I'm glad that you've been add since 1993, good for you,
I was utilizing my freedom of speech just like how others have utilized theirs on this forum. I am not making accusations to anyone in particular, but that everyone should be mindfull on this forum of others and what their going through!

Thank you!!

Yolanda, perhaps if you posted your concerns in an existing thread that has upset you instead of starting a brand new thread, people would be more careful not to offend? Something has upset you, but reading your concerns out of context has left me confused instead of enlightened. We are all here to learn from each other, hopefully. If you have posted this is an existing thread, I apologize for not having read it, yet.

I'd like a miracle pill :-)

I never said that medications was the final end of treatment, you are misinterpreting what I am saying.


Whoa yalanda show up there a minute. I did not accuse any one of saying any thing. You are becoming offended when none was intended.

Many people do not realize that there is more than medications. I do not know who they are until after they are disillusioned and only if they post there feelings. I am not accusing you of saying any thing I am not accusing you of being disillusioned. I am gathering you are getting offended that is about it.

Here is some thing that may help

Unless other wise quoted every thing I post is my opinion to which I am entitled, as are you.

Impatience can be an ADD trait but offense does not have to be. I didn't not even disagree with you I made a notation based upon my experience with others who have ADD. Nothing more, I would appreciate it if nothing more be read into what I wrote...

By the way directness is an ADD trait also. okay it is for me.

Diversity does not invalidate the uniqueness of being but enhances it



I was utilizing my freedom of speech just like how others have utilized theirs on this forum. I am not making accusations to anyone in particular, but that everyone should be mindful on this forum of others and what their going through!

As was I, freedom of speech applies to all.

I only mentioned that I have been on medications sense 1993 so you would understand I KNEW FIRST hand what it is like to do the trial and error medication thing, I wanted you to realize I was not disagreeing with you.

I did not just go through a few months of this , it wasn't as easy as simply finding the right dose either. My ADD medication trail and error phase lasted 2 YEARS , not to count the YEARS I was misdiagnosed and put on the wrong medications I was given medications that made me worse off than I started. I had medications that made me physically violent, violently ill. I had medications that made my hair fall out and made my body swell.

I think you are lucky if you still have your hair, that is more than I had when lithuim was given to me because I was misdiagnosised as bi-polar! I am a hyperactive female and some idiot doctor figured it had to be bi-polar mania because he didn't even think about hyperactivity in adult females.

Understand the frustrations of medication adjustments you bet I understand first hand.

BY taking your anger out on me because I did not post exactly as you wanted will not make things go any faster, it only serves to create even more upset.

everyone should be mindful on this forum of others

good idea, this should have (edited due to chemical ADD impulse control)

I'd like a miracle pill :-)

Miracle pill or magic pill? What the heck, I will take one of each!

If ya find such a thing slip some to me. . . . I won't tell any one-LOL!

Re: post 1:

I think those are very good words yolanda. I agree that there is no magic pill. I'm still trying to find the right combination of drugs to do the job for me and I've been in this med search for 3 years. I hope I find the right set soon...

Hey Yolanda!!

GREAT POST!! It wasn't too "out of context" for me! I think you made a terrific point, and I agree with you 100%!! I don't bring up many things that bother me because I have a HUGE DISLIKE for conflicts, etc. I find them exhausting. So THANK YOU for being brave!! It's great to have you here!!!

Sue

Yolanda and Imnapl, I'm so glad you two are here with us. The conflict, if thats what you want to call it, that you two are having is a very important part of ADD.

This is a lesson in it self. Thanks again for being such great people to be in the forum with. We can have each other to work things through.

This forum has been the only place that I feel I belong.

Everyone here is 'mind full'.

That's the beauty of this forum.
It allows everyone equal 'status' in thier *speaking* or their non*speaking*.

Yolanda and Imnapl, I'm so glad you two are here with us. The conflict, if thats what you want to call it, that you two are having is a very important part of ADD.:soapbox: I know you mean well, oddjobace, but like Meadd823 tried to explain, I prefer that people not assume things. If I sounded less than supportive of a forum member in distress, then my communication skills need some work. I can't recall having contact with Yolanda prior to this thread, but I do recognize a frustrated, offended, and angry poster when I see one. Yolanda needs support to be the best she can be and express herself without alienating people who might give her the support she wants and needs.

Part of having ADHD is wearing your heart on your sleeve; it goes with the territory. We are a passionate group, us ADDers, and sometimes our passion is misdirected and self-destructive. Depression, sleep deprivation, burnout, financial / employment difficulties, the wrong diagnosis and / or meds can make us very reactive and difficult to be around. If we aren't assertive, we may become aggressive and we lose credibility. Being assertive is good for our mental health. Expecting people to be mind-readers is not good for anyone's mental health. If a post upsets us, we can hit that old reply button and tell people why it has upset us.

These forums are full of stories written by frustrated people who are / were struggling with medication and treatment issues. For someone to assume that the majority of ADDers believe all it takes is the right little pill means they need to do more research or examine their own feelings.

Everyone here is 'mind full'.

That's the beauty of this forum.
It allows everyone equal 'status' in thier *speaking* or their non*speaking*.Nev, one of your best. :cool:

Imnapl, Thanks for voicing yourself. It is true there are many challenges that come along with ADD. I agree with you.

I happen to be a very empathetic person. (ADD Trait). I believe that I can make the world a better place. Sometimes I believe I actually do and other times it's delusional at best.

The key qoute that did it for me was:

"I'm pretty sure just about every one here knows that there is no cure for adhd, so I would ask that no-one else post any replies thinking that we want a miracle pill (that is an assumtption and I think it is very rude) we just want to be able to live some what of a more stable life so that we don't have to depend on others for help. I think being independent and being able to take care of yourself is what every human deserves to have!!:rolleyes:"

This quote touched a part in me that said "I've had many people try to tell me what I should and should not think or assume". It's a little over the top.

There is no magical pill. Why would I want one? With or without ADD present, you are given a gift. Yes ADD is a bit of a cover for this. It is tougher for your gift to come out.

I don't want to hide this or deny it any more than necessary. I temporarily numb myself to a world far differant from my creative purpose and who I really am.

Thanks for all who understood my point of view.
I didn't mean to start a thread that would make others argue withone another.

I just wanted to have people to understand where I was coming from, that's all.

And in all fairness, I might have assumed a liitle bit more than I should have. But I still thought that my post very important for others to read!!

Yolanda

But I still thought that my post very important for others to read!!It would be even more important for the other people in your life to read your posts. It's just that I have no one in my family or friends who really give me any support at all. They act like adhd is something I'm trying to use as an excuse for my behavior, but its not.

The only reason why I seem so ready to get the proper dosage is because the people who are helping me with my bills are bugging me about making things go faster

Yolanda and Imnapl, I'm so glad you two are here with us. The conflict, if thats what you want to call it, that you two are having is a very important part of ADD.

I don’t think it was imnaple that caused the upset I think it was me.

But. . . . . .

I don’t see a huge conflict either I see misunderstanding. It seems as if we failed to make some connections here which happens from time to time. As long as people are willing to try and sort stuff out I think we can avoid an unpleasant conflict maybe even find a friend or two.





Thanks for all who understood my point of view.
I didn't mean to start a thread that would make others argue withone another.

I just wanted to have people to understand where I was coming from, that's all.

And in all fairness, I might have assumed a little bit more than I should have. But I still thought that my post very important for others to read!!




Yalande I think you have a very valid point I never thought other wise even if I did not communicate it well . Although I do not know all the details you seem as if you are frustrated by the trial and error thing taking forever and when you tried to communicate this you felt undermined. . .by someone accusing you of wanting a magic pill . . . .Hey I don’t like it when I feel undermined. . . . some times the undermining wasn’t intentional. . . . . My initial response was based on the large number of people who have never been told there is more to ADD treatment than medications, but I wasn’t trying to undermine your initial position. I am sorry it appeared that way.


A large majority of misunderstandings are caused by two people who are trying to help but misunderstand what is being said,. Many times we post looking for answers because we are upset and we get a response that is accusing or dismissive. I am not saying people don’t accuse or dismiss but some times they meant to show humor or are trying to kid around so they can lighten the mood, There are times the respondent reads our post to mean some thing very different than what we meant when we wrote it.

It is amazing how many different meanings there can be to the same words, We each read and respond according to our own perspective and experiences while the person we are responding to is reading and interpertating our response based upon their perspective and experiences, The possibilities of diversity between folks is mind boggling.


We read from thread to thread and often times we are unaware of the entire situation that prompted the topic of the thread. We can’t see each others body language and we only have bits and pieces of each others circumstances so this alone would leave a huge opening for misunderstandings to occur. When all of the above is considered (yes I did leave out the ADD) it really does illuminate what a great bunch of folks we have here.





It's just that I have no one in my family or friends who really give me any support at all. They act like adhd is something I'm trying to use as an excuse for my behavior, but its not.

The only reason why I seem so ready to get the proper dosage is because the people who are helping me with my bills are bugging me about making things go faster

This would put me under a lot of pressure and I think I would be a bit frustrated and irritable myself. . .no I take that back I would be irrationally insane, I couldn’t stand it. I can see why it would appear you want a quick fix . . . .and you do. . . .honestly who wouldn’t take a quick fix for their problems. . . .I know I would. I can see where your situation Yolanda
would cause an “extra“ feeling of desperation.




"I'm pretty sure just about every one here knows that there is no cure for adhd, so I would ask that no-one else post any replies thinking that we want a miracle pill (that is an assumtption and I think it is very rude) we just want to be able to live some what of a more stable life so that we don't have to depend on others for help. I think being independent and being able to take care of yourself is what every human deserves to have!!

I think I understand the above better now. Sounds like another member picked up on the desperation you feel because you are being rushed to find an answer but didn’t fully understand the why behind it. . . . .Perhaps if the person who said you were looking for a magic pill knew the entire reason behind your rush to fix the problems with your ADD their answer would have been different. I arrived at this conclusion because if I understood the circumstance behind the initial post my response would have been different.

Thanks for being wiling to work this out. I don’t like it when I upset people. . . .it is was not my intention.

Miracle pill or magic pill? What the heck, I will take one of each!

If ya find such a thing slip some to me. . . . I won't tell any one-LOL!LOL...

all I read was the first line, and I jumped in with that whitty reply :D I should learn to pay more attention and read the ENTIRE thread..

PS...if I find some. I'll BRING them to you :p if I remember