Hi there!

V. here, (everyones favorive hopped-up-on-horomones-drama teen king)

latley, I have been noticeing something, and its kind of strange.
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I'm haveing trouble saying what I'm thinking. It happens a lot actually. I'll be talking to someone, and I can't quite get myself to actually say what I'm thinking. For some reason I always feel like I leave something out, or don't explain myself clearley.

Its really obvious in my journal, I just read it, and think back on it, and I'm like "no, this is only half the story"

And it doesn't help that I seem to have a wierd way of thinking about things.
Latley I have been putting myself under the watchglass, and I was suprised to discover something strange when I was thinking about my possible ability, or inability to handle stress, and "limits"

I noticed that I thought of a imaginary plane, One, was green, and curved, with think purple walls, the outher one concerning my dad, was red, and didn't have any walls, but the terrain shifted on its own.

I treat each like some kind of imaginary representation of what I was thinking...

Then I started thinking about the outher things I do, analyseing my friends into imaginary symbols, Feeling more then thinking.

Its very strange....I remember reading a post were the topic was about "seeing your problems as a 3d image" is this wierd pattren of thought part of that?

Its very hard to tell someone "well, when I think of you, your like a black box floating in a sea of purple mist, and inside the box, is a entire forest of seeds just waiting to grow"

Or trying to explain how you think of a problem by trying to decribe how you "see" it on a plain of imagination...

Any insight?

Hey Vhan, your mom here aka crazydreamer......got membership working.

Thinking you are rehearsing your conversations in your mind so you know what you are talking about and we only get the part you need answers to ???

Catch ya later. Life is Good

Hey Mom, yea, I guess that Could be it, but I always feel like I leave out the most importent bits... :p

Just to clearify, its just this whole how I think about stuff thing, its wierd, but I remember a forum were the posts were talking about "seeing your problems in 3d objects" or something like that?

Is that kind of thing normal for a ADDer? Etc,

Just to clearify, its just this whole how I think about stuff thing, its wierd, but I remember a forum were the posts were talking about "seeing your problems in 3d objects" or something like that?

Is that kind of thing normal for a ADDer? Etc,Do you mean visual/ spatial thinking? Where you conceive of and understand things better in images rather than words? Because visual/spatial thinking is pretty common in ADHD, but I don't think it's an actual symptom. Just a common coinsiding.

Where you conceive of and understand things better in images rather than words
Yea! So there really is a name for this? The best conversations I have are when I can really "See" what A person is talking about,

Maybe thats why I opt to IM, then talk on the phone, easyier to "see" something if I'm reading it....

Is there info I can read about this?

(yay I'm excited)

Is there info I can read about this?


I Think in Pictures, You Teach in Words (http://www.nswagtc.org.au/ozgifted/conferences/SwordVisualSpatial.html)

What is a Visual-Spatial Learner? (http://www.dyslexia.com/library/silver1.htm)

A visual-spatial learner is a student who learns holistically rather than in a step-by-step fashion. Visual imagery plays an important role in the student's learning process. Because the individual is processing primarily in pictures rather than words, ideas are interconnected (imagine a web). Linear sequential thinking--the norm in American education--is particularly difficult for this person and requires a translation of his or her usual thought processes, which often takes more time.

Some visual-spatial learners are excellent at auditory sequential processing as well. They have full access to both systems, so that if they don't get an immediate "aha" when they are looking at a problem, they can resort to sequential, trial-and-error methods of problem solving. These students are usually highly gifted with well integrated abilities. However, the majority of visual-spatial learners we have found in our work are deficient in auditory sequential skills. This leads to a complex set of problems for the student. A definite mismatch exists between the student's learning style and the instructional methods employed by the student's teachers.
***End Quote




I have equal access to both auditory and visual, I can also feel my self doing things. . . .I have full access to all three styles of learning Vhan yet for 40 years I thought I was stupid because I would forget what I was supposed to be doing.

At 40+ my life half over now I discover I was born different but NOT inferior. Instead of regretting the lost years I channel the energy toward encouraging others such as yourself so you do not waste years feeling stupid. If my years spent feeling stupid can be a catalyst for encouraging others so they avoid the same then my years would not be a waste.

Many think I am positive because I either am in denial or do not have struggles however neither is truth. The truth is I can not change the past but I can do some thing about the future by the decisions I make in the present. . . . . I choose to use what I have to encourage others. . . . . then my years would remain productive long after I am gone.


Being different doesn't mean inferior, being called a name like stupid will not make you that unless you yourself believe it.





I noticed that I thought of a imaginary plane, One, was green, and curved, with think purple walls, the other one concerning my dad, was red, and didn't have any walls, but the terrain shifted on its own

The terrain shifted much like your Dad's moods, where he can go from being one way to being another with no warning. Red anger or passion , warning . . . .this relationship has no bounderless , you are unable to protect yourself from him . . . thus no walls.. . . .no distance completely vulnerable. You are describing your Dad's attitude toward you and his approach to your problems. . .as well as your feeling about these things. Ya never know what he is gonna do and you have no shield against him like you do with others such as myself.

You can turn me off you can shield your self from me if I become hurtful. Think purple walls personal boundaries or protection from other people's attitudes . . . .you can contain others or seperate yourself from them so we are safter . . .green go . . . safer. . . .not danerious. . . .the two together are the contrast between the two as well as the reason these relationships are different.


My interpretation of your visual. . . . yes I did notice it took me four times as many words as it did you. I do not read the words written I perceive them. . . . . I some times "se" what others are saying other time I hear and I almost always I "feel" what I read. I do not have words that define words. . .when I write I must translate my internal language to one of an external language that seem foreign to me. . . words are very limiting.

So if I am close then I understand . . . . . if not I shall go back to sleep -LOL!




Hey Vhan, your mom here aka crazydreamer......got membership working.

Welcome to the forums crazydreamer - Vhan is a very special young man and we enjoy him very much.

Well well well Vhan, it seems we (you and me and Spacemania too) have this in common also, as well as the making up of unique words that have meaning only to us. I am seriously visual-spatial. I think I had mentioned it to you before in that making-up-words thread, about my having to write things down in my own hand to remember them? I can only accurately visualize my own hand, anything else in print tends to come back as pictures, or as a page with blurred, unreadable handwriting :(.

I don't personally see (:)) anything wrong with creating images that express problematic situations, or even possibly tricky ones. If that what works? Then that's what works!

Do you still have the image I made for you? I do. That's how I "saw" you at that stage.

Welcome Crazydreamer, by the way. Two of my children are members here and ADHD is a theme at my house :D.

I seem to have the same problem with not telling the whole story, or I mean to say something to someone and not say anything at all before they walk away. For some reason, I have no problem speaking when I dont plan what to say and just get it out, and if its really important I've gotten myself into the habit of just stopping to think "ok, is there anything else I need to say?" Maybe that'll work for ya.

I can't type a proper post because I have to catch the bus in 12 minutes but,

I have equal access to both auditory and visual, I can also feel my self doing things. . . .I have full access to all three styles of learning
anything else in print tends to come back as pictures, or as a page with blurred, unreadable handwriting
I do not read the words written I perceive them. . . . . I some times "se" what others are saying other time I hear and I almost always I "feel" what I read. I do not have words that define words
I just find this so Interesting! Unbeleiveable! For a while I thought I was a little off center because I felt like I "Feel" more then see, or hear, or read. I cant wai--bus here in 4 minutes, bye, bye

I can relate to all the quotes point out in the above post D:. Bane of my school life, although medication helped me a lot with expressing myself and sequential thinking (In exams I would write all three essays at once, in bits and pieces, I could never get a flow in my written work.)

Helped me a bit, improved my marks by 10%, but still felt way short of what I understood about the texts and such. Oh well

I just find this so Interesting! Unbeleiveable! For a while I thought I was a little off center because I felt like I "Feel" more then see, or hear, or read. I cant wai--bus here in 4 minutes, bye, byeYou might also find it interesting that sensory thinking is very common amoung artists. My sister is quite a talented sculptor and my cousin is a professional graphic designer. Both of them have sensory thinking styles.

Ironically, I'm a verbal thinker. When I was designing my sister's prom dress, I keep trying to get her to explain to me what she wanted...and she couldn't do it. She said she knew what she wanted it to be like but couldn't turn it into words, nor could I turn my verbal description into shape and movement for her. Drove us both batty for a month. :D

You might also find it interesting that sensory thinking is very common amoung artists. My sister is quite a talented sculptor and my cousin is a professional graphic designer. Both of them have sensory thinking styles.Fascinating! It does seem to mesh with my existence very well though; when I sit down to create I just "see" it.

Ironically, I'm a verbal thinker. When I was designing my sister's prom dress, I keep trying to get her to explain to me what she wanted...and she couldn't do it. She said she knew what she wanted it to be like but couldn't turn it into words, nor could I turn my verbal description into shape and movement for her. Drove us both batty for a month. :DI know all too well how this goes. Had BDH take the onliner -- he is an auditory type learner :eyebrow: and we have the same communications breakdowns at times. I have difficulty shredding my mental images into understandable words for him to absorb, and he has to struggle to "paint me a verbal picture" so that I can understand him. It can be exhausting!

Fascinating! It does seem to mesh with my existence very well though; when I sit down to create I just "see" it.Fascinating indeed! I do the opposite. I when I sit down to create, I think of the words that represent what I want to piece to convey, then look for images (in my patterns or clothing in artwork) that echo the feelings I get from the words.

I know all too well how this goes. Had BDH take the onliner -- he is an auditory type learner :eyebrow: and we have the same communications breakdowns at times. I have difficulty shredding my mental images into understandable words for him to absorb, and he has to struggle to "paint me a verbal picture" so that I can understand him. It can be exhausting! Maybe this is my husband's hang up in communicating He can go from visual (mental images) to visual (text), writing a scene or plot he sees, with only some difficulty. But he can't go visual to auditory, which adds one more step of abstraction in cooridinating images to their symbolic sound label.

Maybe this is my husband's hang up in communicating He can go from visual (mental images) to visual (text), writing a scene or plot he sees, with only some difficulty. But he can't go visual to auditory, which adds one more step of abstraction in cooridinating images to their symbolic sound label.I absolutely MUST admit in this public manner that he is MUCH better than I am at first even remembering our learning styles :o then making the leap to translating them. For someone who probably seems very articulate through my posts, I really do stand there going "Uhhh...uhhhh...well, I KNOW what I want to tell you..." :o. Its very difficult for me, even with my rather large vocabulary, to find the right words to express what I can plainly "see" in my head! :faint: VERY frustrating! Sometimes I actually have to get paper and draw to get things out. Whereas all I have to do is to ask him "Paint me that picture please?" and he regroups and manages very well.

He really deserves props for that. :)

Okay, back from school, man I love hyperfocus, I wrote 20 paragraphs, and a one, and a half page essay, in about 75minutes.

Back on topic, This is all Insaneley fasanateing!


Visual-spatial learners have amazing abilities to "read" people. Since they can't rely on audition for information, they develop remarkable visual and intuitive abilities, including reading body language and facial expressions.
Many of the students described in this article were so adept at reading cues and observing people that they could tell what a person was thinking almost verbatim. Oftentimes, in school, they sense a teacher's anxieties and ambivalent feeling towards them, and react with statements such as, that teacher hates me.


SO TRUE! Some of my friends think I'm a little bit insane, I'm always looking at people when they talk, stareing at there hands, ther feet, there eyes, sometimes its kind of stressfull because I'm paying so much attitton to what a person is saying with ther body that I forget that they are talking to me.

spatial learners are systems thinkersthey need to see the whole picture before they can understand
I can't even begin how to describe how much this describes me!

Once spatial learners create a mental picture of a concept and see how the information fits with what they already know, their learning is permanent. Repetition is completely unnecessary and irrelevant to their learning style.
OH MY GOSH! THIS DESCRIBES ME TO A TEE! IM HOPPING UP AND DOWN IN MY SEAT THIS IS SO COOL!

http://www.dyslexia.com/library/silver1.htm just tabout the entire article fits me!!!!!!!!!! Yea, the last part was really like me,
WOW!

Has poor handwriting or difficulty keeping in the lines or grips the pen very hard and presses on the paper when writing
Loves Lego, puzzles, jigsaws, computer games, television, making things
· Likes art and/or music

· Has a poor sense of time

· Is extremely sensitive to criticism

· Is emotionally very sensitive

· Has difficulty with spelling/times tables

· Can remember the way somewhere after going there only once

· Has a vivid imagination and/or disturbing dreams

· Is distractible

· Is very disorganised.




EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING HERE!

Repetitive sounds such as fluorescent lights seem to them very loud and can drive them crazy. It can be very difficult for many of these children to discriminate foreground sound from background noise
YEP!

When high intelligence is coupled with an auditory sequential processing difficulty, these two exceptionalities tend to mask one another so that neither the giftedness nor the difficulty is readily apparent. Their learning difficulty depresses these students’
I'm not shure if im "gifted" but, Yea, I was like that in middle school..

Wow...SOo...CoooOooOOlll.....

Hey Vhan! Remember this image?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/Dark_Angel_Vhan.png

I think I need to make you a new one now though, I don't see this when I see your posts anymore :).

Haha, yea, I still have that pick on my comp ^.^

I wonder what you see now?

Are there any books on this? I would love to learn how to explot my strenths and avoid my weaknesses :p

I have been playing around with two types of meditation,

The first one is "freethought" were I focus on my thoughts,
The second is "waterroom" were I combine my thoughts, void, and my soul to create things, I use water, so its really fun.

I have been working on a third, were I only focus on the idea of my soul, I have gotten some very interesting results so far, Maybe I can get used to my spacial thinking so I can start useing it in a problem solveing manner!

Somehow I have come to associate you with Naruto :D and not when he is using jutsus either. Now THAT would be one crazy image! Hmmm Vhan multiplied many times and female? Not quite there.

I kinda prefer Gaara myself, such a tragic character.

Somehow I have come to associate you with Naruto :D and not when he is using jutsus either. Now THAT would be one crazy image! Hmmm Vhan multiplied many times and female? Not quite there.

I kinda prefer Gaara myself, such a tragic character.


Lol, you watch naruto!? NO WAY!

I have to admit, I'm kind of a "narutard" as my friends have dubed me.

One of my friends got me watching it after one of them told me "I swear, you just like naruto, I keep waiting for you to start screaming "BELIEVE IT!"

"who is naruto?"
"WHAT!? you don't know?"

Hehe, I have been hooked ever since,
I love the sublime storyline, I love to read into it,

And mead, you did a good job on the interptation!

:eyebrow: You mean your mother does not scream "BELIEVE IT!" at you? I scream it at Spacemania all the time :D...we have a running argument at this house as to who would win in a battle: Cloud from FFVII or Gaara. Its hilarious to watch the ol' man try to explain how Cloud can do this attack and that attack and we just say "Yes but how is he gonna get through that sand?".

OH! I made Space a new siggy! Its swirling sand and has a very hott pic of our fave redheaded ninja. I guess I need to let her back on this machine so she can come back in here. Seems she has a few Otakus to meet now :)...but she had better clean her room first!

BELIEVE IT!

Auwww, comeone we all know Gaara and Cloud would have a epic battle that would reslut in the near distruction of the entire cosmos, and afterwards they would be best friends! (they have so much in common, well......kinda?)

(and we all know that Clouds hair could proabley just drill through that sand,)

Leats hear it for Super materi Hair Gel!

Is there materia for super-spiky hair? I always wondered about that. And I kinda like the pairing of Shukaku and Sephiroth. Now THAT would be something to see!

Of course, we are forgetting to toss another fave half-demon in there...Inuyasha! I bet he would freak out and "sit" in a fast hurry, with or without those beads. The guy has too hot of a temper to take on stone-faced warriors and ninjas. Just my opinion!

Haha, a shikahamru, and Inuyasha team, LOL. Could you imagine the arguements?

Trying to work on that third stage of meditation, Its hard to get there.... :p I keep fidigetting!

I got a visualization for meditation. I picture a sphere-shaped semi-translucent yin-yang, then picture my hands holding it and rotating it. It takes time to master that but it works well for me.

Sounds diffacult!

Bleh, its getting late, and I should sleep, :p

Thanks meadd823 and crazy~feet for the warm welcome.

I think Vhan is pretty special as well. He sure played with a lot of legos growing up LOL

Very interesting reading and imput. Thanks

Time for bed.

But vhan u knows its difficult son an u knows u shoulda bin aslip a long lama time ago an that crazy feet he just gettin u all stirred up agin..

:p I slept good, Are there any books on this? I just think this is so interesting :p

But vhan u knows its difficult son an u knows u shoulda bin aslip a long lama time ago an that crazy feet he just gettin u all stirred up agin..Yea but its all good, Jacinta. I love anime and its nice to find out that my little buddy Vhan is an Otaku too :). That was a terribly interesting discussion IMO.

O yea, ^.^ it was all good.

So, really, back on topic (SMELL THIS WAY CRAZY FEET!)
lol,

Spatial thinking, so, I see things in pictures rather then words? Or, maybe understand them that way.

I find it strange because some of you kinda talk about it like you can switch it on, and off, or inbetween diffrent "modes"
Kinda makes me confused >.<

I mean, when someone tries to give me directions with thier voice, or etc, yea...they might as well be showing my signlanguage while wearing mittins...

Unless I understand what they are talking about, that "aha" phenomanon, that fits me so well, its kinda creepy...

but its not like I can sit down right now and tell you "okay, let me draw you a picture of how I feel".....

On top of that, its kind of strange because the more I look at this, the more abstract it looks,

Like, i sometimes do this thing were I imagined myself standing on a plane of infiniety, and I would build a city, and as I flew around this plain I would see outher peoples cities, (the people I know) But those red, and green plaines that I talked about earlier, I could place those around outher peoples cities...and strangeley it works...

I'm starting to question weather this is actually something that I really have, or maybe just a overactive imagination.......I mean, if this was really something then would I be able to change things so easily? ect, N' stuff.

Spatial thinking, so, I see things in pictures rather then words? Or, maybe understand them that way.
This is how they say Autistics think. It's says that Autistic rely on visuals to help them communicate with the "outside world"

I think I'm better with pictures too, because I can remember where I've been and where I'm going just by looking at the scenery of the location I am at. (especially when driving)


I mean, when someone tries to give me directions with thier voice, or etc, yea...they might as well be showing my signlanguage while wearing mittins...I like the analagy. I'm the same way. If I don't see it, I can't be sure of what they are talking about. I need to be able to "see it to believe it"...

Yea, Im actually pretty confused with this whole "Autistics" and, (what is the outher catagory?)

For me, its not so much a matter of believeing it, but I just have a hard time understanding things, if I don't understand it.

Its like...I see pictures, but only when I can "feel" something.

If I don't feel...I um, "can't paint"

A person can talk, show, and make me eat math, but I don't understand it, because its just numbers.

And, when I say understand what I mean is, if you take a tree, I can understand its a tree, but I really, understand when I think about how the tree was planted, how old it is, what happend as it grew, the city that was built around it, and that kind of stuff.

Untill I know those details I really don't feel that I understand something according to its true value...

For me its the same way with people, and events.

And outher things, for example, I can look at something that belongs to me, I can see it, touch it, etc, (This is about to sound so dumb) but in a way, I can also, kind of "feel" it...

I'm confused on exactley what that means...(or maybe its just my imagination makeing things up?)

But those red, and green plaines that I talked about earlier, I could place those around outher peoples cities...and strangeley it works...

The red and green planes are your feelings you simply used pictures to express them, this would line up with your visual style. Many global learners are visual. Because I turn these words into images it was easy for me to understand. same SB’s post do the same thing. You write your thinking style every one does. I simply pick up on the patterns and my brain automatically converts them into pictures sounds and feelings. It isn’t some thing I could teach because it is not some thing I try to do this merely happens.


Here is what I was reading due to the distraction of you asking for reading materials

White paper (http://www.sarahandrews.net/spatialthinking.htm)


Within this struggle to communicate, the perceptual limitations of linear-thinking people become obvious. The utility of being able to think in three dimensions becomes increasingly clear. And the rarity and importance of thinking as geologists do—visualizing three-dimensional objects changing through time in response to geological processes, an open-ended capacity we could call n-dimensional thinking—stands out in stark relief. Asserting our talents to the rest of humanity is long overdue. We are the modern wizards, those people who can, using the barest shreds of evidence, “see” through solid rock, back through time, and into future events. ***End Quote
Then I read the following


And, when I say understand what I mean is, if you take a tree, I can understand its a tree, but I really, understand when I think about how the tree was planted, how old it is, what happend as it grew, the city that was built around it, and that kind of stuff.


I have a feeling Vhan you may relate to the writer on the article I have provided the hyperlink to . . . . .

Yea, Im actually pretty confused with this whole "Autistics" and, (what is the outher catagory?)

It seems that autistics and those with ADD may have some things in common, often this common-ness kind of converges into some area we dyslexic experience as well. I see them all as thinking style variations that should be explored and more readily accepted as difference as opposed to disorders. I will also include that these differernces should never be as excuse for bad behaviors or shirking responsibility to do what is within ones own ability to be responsible and productive.

I can see the link betwen autistism and ADD on one hand yet on another they seem almost opposite.

The unconscious mind absorbs data, stores it, and sends up flares to the conscious mind, which deductively reduces the data into a solution or multiple working solutions. We have an unusual capacity to throw our conscious minds out of gear and use our diffuse awareness to absorb what’s around us. With the gate between the two realms wide open, we are able take in wide swaths of information at high speed.
I was suprised when I read this, she talks about her thought like she could kind of controll it. Witch is cool, because I always kind of felt that I could kind of "open up" my mind, but untill now I kind of thought it was just me, being silly.

Woes betide any teacher who tries to bluff or bully them. Sound familiar?

Two days ago some of my classmates were bullying another one of my classmates. As punishment my teacher gave the whole class 20 paragraphs, of 5-8 sentences. I did mine, but I also included a one, and a half page essay stateing "It was your responceability to intervene on this isshure far before it reached the sate that it is currentley standing" Yea, I got a perfect score on my assignment...(I was also one out of three outher kids who actually did the assignment, except for three outhers who did some of the assignment)

He is inclined to label such children. His list may include such self-esteem-crushing tags as “difficult,” “quirky,” “dreamer,” “marches to a different drummer,” or worse yet, “lazy.” If the kid has a sense of humor, she is, “a character.” The modern PC term is, “attention deficit disorder.”
"Lazy" was the pendrop of choice, (I think I just used one of my made-up words...) I was actually kicked out of a math class (that I was trying to pass) because I got fed up with my teachers poor instructions, and didn't do my quiz, my teachers reason for sending me out of her class, "He is just Lazy, and I don't want him in my class" if my memory serves me right.

What this teacher doesn’t recognize is that his student is in fact a perfectionist who, having created her own standards, can never live up to them. What he doesn’t know is that this child is working much harder than most of the other kids in the room. She is acquiring information not linearly, or arithmetically, but geometrically, or even n-dimensionally. Her intuitive style makes her appear anxious, and as she absorbs not just the class lesson but also everything that every other kid in the class is doing, she becomes over stimulated and overloaded and withdraws slightly to dampen input to manageable levels. Overall, she is building a bigger program, one that, for its preponderance of dimensions, takes longer to construct.
The reson I failed my Animation class: I kept re-makeing my projects because I didn't think that they were good enoughf. I was even told by my teacher that my exptations were way to high for someone at my level...and thats a interesting thought on withdrawing to keep stimulus on a manageable levels, I do know that when I'm in class noises drive me insane, and it seems that the harder I try to fight to keep myself focused the more im distraced by my preceprial vision. The noise of the TV, (that little, high pitched hissing sound it makes) sounds of pencils, coughfing, teachers, and students whispering, shuffleing of papers. and anything that the corners of my eyes happen to glimpse,

Spatial thinkers thrive on mentorship of their intellectual peers, and deserve the support of perceptive, imaginative teachers. And may I suggest that advocating for their needs, and acting as their mentors, helps heal the wounds so many of us received in our own school experiences.
Yea, Very true, I used to hang out at a comic book shop because the store owner was kind of a mentor to me.

But greatness can amount to a glorified frustration if we can’t communicate it to others,
Thats why I started this thread...

We relax into the work. We become one with the landscape rather than taking it by presumption or brute force.
I love doing stuff like that when A teacher asks me to write about a book we read, or a essay, etc. (However, very rareley do I ever seem to get it done on time...writeing a re-searh paper is like someone playing racket ball with my brain, to much identifying sourses, and citeing things, I would rather just wreit it on my own thoughts, but that never makes the teacher happy. Plus, there is always the risk of loseing things, that one haunts me)

to an analysis of probabilities, and choose the most likely answer. We then attack our answer, because we know that, in the absence of complete data, there is no such thing as absolute certainty. We in fact subject our work to continuous scrutiny, always on the alert for that next datum that could blow our entire array. This amounts to a sort of built-in scientific method, or, quixotically speaking, a questioning of one’s own authority.
I always find myself questioning my answers :p

I feel that it’s time to approach the game differently. It’s time to question our system of education, and find new paths for ourselves and for those with our talents who will come after us. It’s time to assert our truest value.
I agree :p :)

THANKS MEAD! really interesting read I found it really helpfull!

:D Heh...I am not OT! You asked me what image came to my mind when I thought of you now. Its something like this:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y92/kzrainbow/Vhan_Believe_It.png


Its a gift :cool: Believe It!

Hey Vhan, your mom here aka crazydreamer......got membership working.

Thinking you are rehearsing your conversations in your mind so you know what you are talking about and we only get the part you need answers to ???

Catch ya later. Life is GoodThat actually makes a lot of sense -- I know I frequently rehearse what I'm going to say -- that of course doesn't mean it will all come out the way I thought it. Even when I'm typing I'll look back and see that I forgot to put in words or phrases that I was thinking. Hallowell and Ratey discuss how lots of ADDers find it very frustrating trying to put their beautiful thoughts and ideas into words -- too slow and time consuming.

As far as imagining people so creatively Vhan, I haven't experienced that but it sounds interesting. You must be a very visual thinker!:)

Take care,
Scattered

OMG NO WAY! ITS AWESOME CRAZY~FEET! Gonna figure out how to put in my signature

Haveing some trouble setting pic as my signature..Hmmm keeps asking me for a URL for the image, afraid I don't have one >.<

Haveing some trouble setting pic as my signature..Hmmm keeps asking me for a URL for the image, afraid I don't have one >.<Have to open an account at an image hosting site. Pming you!

Thanks! got it up, and working, or I thought I did...HmmmmmMmMm Okay, I previewed, and didn't save, this time I saved, Haha, so kwel ^.^

okay, now that I'm starting to understand exactley how I think, and learn, I guess I need to form some kind of stradagy, expectuly for fullsail univerity (a glorified trade school)...any advice?

The article you related to was written by a geologist, other visual fields may be architect , designers of any thing from equipment to clothes, fields that require the ability to "see" things in your own mind.

Here are some hyperlinks that may be beneficial

Bret links (http://www.breitlinks.com/careers/)


visual spatial org (http://www.visualspatial.org/Articles/artofwrit.htm)

One of the reasons I was looking foreward to being part of the game development buisness.

When makeing a game, I can see quite a few ways thinking in such a manner could be extremeley helpfull.

As a designer, it would be my job to "create"

the more aspects I could "create" in, the better off I am.

(This is very, very hard for me to explain, because there are somethings I just think about in words, some I think about in words, and pictures, and some I think about in pictures, This...is something I think about in pictures....plus its 25, after midnight, so i'm a little off center)

okay, I keep trying to type this, but nothing is really comeing out...I think I'm just to tierd right now...


bllehhe...Bl...BLEH...

I don't think my ears connect to my brain. When I'm expected to listen to something and follow it, forget it. (Music is different, it's another kind of quiet, just a thing to FEEL.) My husband will still try to go over the monthly bills with me by reciting a list of numbers, and I still have to say that I need it written down, because my ears don't connect to the math center. He can do that in his head with numbers, but he can't be trusted to pick up groceries we've listed to him. My daughter had a hard time in school, and one trick we found worked for her was to sing things she had to memorize, or read them over and over in ridiculous made-up accents. I''m very sensitive to noises, find them hard to tune out, and too much of it shatters my ability to function. Despite this, my son, the musician, persists in attempting to teach me certain aspects of rhythm, whacking at things around us and asking "Can you hear the syncopation now?", and I think I'm going to lose what's left of my mind long before I come to comprehend syncopation. He can't believe I can't understand this "simple thing". I can't believe he finds this barely discernible difference in timing to be obvious and simple.

Brains are funny things. My Mom has Alzheimer's, and she's having increasing difficulty doing basic self-care things, like knowing to take off her clothes to take a bath, or even the way to the bathroom. Interpreting stimuli around her and realizing that this or that is irrelevant, a thing we do with no effort at all, is impossible for her, and she's tormented with trying to understand everything; sounds outside the house, every word from the tv, miscellaneous hosue sounds... all day long, she's asking me what this or that was, and shoot, I wasn't listening. I dunno. So I'm seeing that things you never think about, that you'd consider a "no-brainer", actually does indeed take brains.

I do fear she's gonna take my poor addled brain down with hers, with the continual barrage of questions.

Moral of the story: appreciate your brain, however oddly it works! Vhan, your brain sounds first-rate to me! Your Mom must be very proud of you.

He can't believe I can't understand this "simple thing". I can't believe he finds this barely discernible difference in timing to be obvious and simple.

Perhaps if he understood it is some thing some people are able to do while others are not. I am guessing that musical rhythm can be taught I do not know. I was born knowing music, some thing called perfect pitch I also have natural ability to know rhythm and weather or not some thing is "right" . . .


Verbal bill rattling must be a man thing Gary does the same thing, nuts. . . all these years and he still doesn't "get it". Although I can do the math in my head I have to have the numbers written down so I can remember what to add long enough to actually add it. . . .Gary can't understand how I can add in my head but not remember more than three numbers longer than ten seconds without transposing them. . . . . oh well Gary is still trying to explain how phonetics works which I do not get either all the vowels sound alike . . . . maybe if I could get him to sing them. . . . .if it didn't help it may prove entertaining so not all would be lost. :D