View Full Version : For anyone skeptical about adderall
I have been on adderall for a good 6 months now, I know its been doing its job but I never really saw proof... Yesterday after my 10 hour sleep I was late for school. I took my adderall at 5 and class started at 530. I had a math pretest to do followed by a real test(its individual math so I take tests whenever) ..
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Anyway I took the pre test which I had studied for earlier in the week and which was based on the real test. I knew I was screwed cause I was feeling like I did before the adderall.. Unfocused, double guessing eveything I knew was right, etc. .. I took the test did what I could and got 1 right. I was ****ed off of course, but it was a pre test so I didn't care..
.I then without even thinkin if the adderall was in my system yet, told the teacher I wanted the real test. He looked at me skeptical and said .. Are you sure you don't want to study you just failed the pre test.. I told him yes. I took the real test and I got a hundred on it..
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The incedible difference of before the adderall kicked in and after it did was immense.. I was able to focus, 100 things weren't on my mind it was great.. I for once had solid proof it was working for me...
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Its kind of funny tho cause when he saw I got a hundred he was like someimes I wonder if someone else takes your test I'm like why.. He pulled out all my tests.. All my pretests were Fs and all the real tests As.. But the reson why he said that was cause on all the pre tests I kept getting Fs and the handwriting was so bad I couldn't even read it. And on all the real tests I got an A and I even questioned myself on the handwriting.....its funny how I never noticed it the whole time it was working....
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There's proof that its working even if you think its not, or if you think they don't help.... And for all you abusers who just take it for ****s and giggles and do not have ADD and aren't prescribed for it: have fun living in our old world, hope you like it..
pokerpro 04-12-07, 06:28 PM IAnd for all you abusers who just take it for ****s and giggles and do not have ADD and aren't prescribed for it: have fun living in our old world, hope you like it..
Is this more or less stating that an individual without ADD who uses adderall as a cognitive enhancing drug would somehow develope ADD and therefore "live in your old world" without the drug?
If that is not what you meant, please clarify.
If this is what you meant, please provide your reasoning behind this.
optimum00 04-12-07, 06:47 PM adderall isnt just for add.... im offended
What i meant by the whole "live in our old world" thing was that from my experience seeing people who take adderall for fun go nuts like i used to... as i was called quite a few times "that kid bounces off of walls".... and I have seen people on it who take it for fun and they seem to be like how i was of course until the dose they took wore off. I know people who take it just so they can be energetic, stay up all night, and to just 'have fun'....And i used to always be energetic, stay up all night, and was awlays having fun, so when i see someone who takes it for fun i can normally tell..
dsc6072 04-13-07, 02:05 AM Not everyone with ADD exhibits hyperactivity...
LittlePrincess 04-13-07, 02:19 AM I've witnessed many people (mainly college students) who benefit tremendously by using Adderall without a prescription. They would sit and study for hours and hours. Concentration greatly increased. They were definitely in no way part of our "old world."
(Just so we're clear... I'm not condoning the use of Adderall without a prescription and I'm definitely not saying that this is a wise thing to do! Just stating an observation.)
D.B. Cooper 04-13-07, 05:12 AM adderall isnt just for add.... im offendedYou're on an AD/HD support forum.
optimum00 04-13-07, 07:44 AM You're on an AD/HD support forum.This is true... but I can't be the only person here not taking it for AD/HD. I bet there must be one narcoleptic or overweight person around though!
All I know from what IV seen, is that every person IV seen with adderall used to be hyper, unfocused etc.. And the people I know who take it for fun or for an exam, they always want more and say how lucky I am to be on it when they hear I am on it, which angers me cause it helps me and its not like a cool thing in my eyes. And yea I know it treats other stuff also, but since the talk in this forum from what IV seen is primarely ADD that's what I posted. And the fact I take it for that I was just passing along my experience and success story for anyone who was or is skeptical. Sorry if I offended anyone. I'm still pretty new to the ADDerall world, just posted that cause I get angry when someone says it doesn't work and its crap which someone did to me in school , and when I hear people talk about buying it from others. cause they are prob the reason we have to get new scripts every month lol . So sorry if I angered anyone. The post was just to show that its working even if you think its not.
meadd823 04-14-07, 07:57 PM adderall isnt just for add.... im offended
Well it is hard to please every one all of the time. How ever I am annoyed by this derailment of the topic This isn't about what you have but about what em123 is experiencing.
For information purposes
Adderall Professional Information (http://www.drugs.com/pro/adderall.html)
ADDERALLŽ is indicated for the treatment of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) and Narcolepsy.***End Quote
OK unless you have one of these two conditions you should not be taking Adderall - is that clear enough? If that is offensive be glad I am not trying simply informing.
Why am I involving myself in this?
Simple really, because em123 is making a very important point that is worth listening to.
Is this more or less stating that an individual without ADD who uses adderall as a cognitive enhancing drug would somehow develope ADD and therefore "live in your old world" without the drug?
I do not believe this was the point of the post . Do you?
Did you read the entire post you know the stuff about the difference it was making in his test grades? I believe this was what a majority of the intial post was about.
I've witnessed many people (mainly college students) who benefit tremendously by using Adderall without a prescription. They would sit and study for hours and hours. Concentration greatly increased. They were definitely in no way part of our "old world."
Are you willing to bet your pay check on it?
Because contrary to your presentation they are = hyperfocusing? {which is also an ADD trait we just normally hyper focus on the wrong things}
This is true... but I can't be the only person here not taking it for AD/HD. I bet there must be one narcoleptic or overweight person around though!
Adderall is NOT indicated for weight loss -
This is NOT a narcoleptic support forum -
If you are taking Adderall for a condition other than ADD then you need to goggle up the condition you do have. = you are in the wrong place. - it can get more direct however I will be risking breaching appropriate ADDF etiquette.
Sorry if I offended anyone
em you are NOT the one being offensive YOU are making a valid point I for one appreciate it = THANK YOU !
The point being made is :
#1 -You do not have to "feel" Adderall for it to work.
I have been on it for seven years and I no longer "feel" it but it still works. My body has adjusted to the chemical changes so I no longer "feel" the changes but it still works which is why there isn't a bunch of "***" all over my post. The effects of the medication is also why no one has flamed within an inch of their lives. The derailments and lack of support is very annoying to me personally.
A lot of people think because they are no longer "feeling" the effects of the medication then it is no longer working which simply is not true.
#2 The Adderall is making a huge difference in em123's who is actually doing what is absolutely correct to determining the effects upon his ADD. That is NOT going by how he feels but how he is functioning which is the ONLY correct way to determine if the medication is helping the ADD.
If one takes Adderall long enough the "feeling" will go away however if one implements modification and sets up systems then the therapeutic effects should continue long after your body's adjustments have removed the stimulant feeling so many are really looking for. . . which by the way is NOT ADD treatment it is getting high.
#3 - People who take ADD medication illegally are endangering this option for the rest of us who are NOT trying to get high but treat a very real condition that makes it impossible for us to function in this linear non-ADD world.
You are the enemy of all who who are truly trying to increase their ability to function by treating their ADD appropriately This does make us very mad {rightfully so}
Gee I do hope this was direct enough for you people to back off em123 as I believe the subject should now be apparent enough?
gh342000 04-15-07, 01:12 PM #1 -You do not have to "feel" Adderall for it to work.
I have been on it for seven years and I no longer "feel" it but it still works. My body has adjusted to the chemical changes so I no longer "feel" the changes but it still works which is why there isn't a bunch of "***" all over my post. The effects of the medication is also why no one has flamed within an inch of their lives. The derailments and lack of support is very annoying to me personally.
A lot of people think because they are no longer "feeling" the effects of the medication then it is no longer working which simply is not true.
You are correct. This is a concept that I have been trying to get across for sometime, generally without success.
Just because you don't feel the "buzz" or "high" of the stimulant does not mean it is not working. I hated the feeling of the drug until my body got used to it. When I take my meds I notice nothing. I notice no onset and no offset of the actual drug, only the ability to focus. After a long period of time I don't even notice the difference in the ability to focus. I just feel like me.
But and this is a big but, when I don't take my meds I become an unfocused mess. This is when I notice that the meds are actually doing something. And my wife really notices.
meadd823 04-21-07, 05:19 AM But and this is a big but, when I don't take my meds I become an unfocused mess. This is when I notice that the meds are actually doing something. And my wife really notices.
I am the exact same way . I only notice my medication work when I am not on them and I do a lot of nothing but I create one heck of a mess getting ziltch done. My male partner noticed my medications are wearing off before I do. . . . he looks around and goes "Wow what a mess. When did you take your medication last?"
I am like yesterday - ya think it has worn off yet? :p
Maybe we need to form a "club" of People whose medications work with out the buzz -LOL!
You are correct. This is a concept that I have been trying to get across for sometime, generally without success.
Yeah know the feeling there, even with my big mouth and years of experience my knowledge is often denied. This is why I entered this thread with a bang because this kid is getting it and I will be damned if I am going to let a bunch of people take that away from him out of their own mis-information and ignorance.
He needed to know he was right and going about the right way of knowing the medications are working properly which is correctly based upon effect not feeling. I wanted to support him in that accuracy. . . .
However I really enjoyed getting some support myself. . . . thanks - gh342000. :)
I'm glad the buzz wore off. I can still tell when the Adderall is kicking in, and when it's wearing off. You see, my morning routine now consists of taking my Adderal, fixing my coffee and breakfast, and sitting down to read two newspapers. I start with the County paper. I can skim over the national and world news for a local perspective, or skip it if it's from a wire service (the more complete article will be in the bigger newspaper) and focus more on the local and County news. Those articles and letters to the editor tend to be short and easy to read (especially the letters. Ugh.) When I start the State newspaper, I'm beginning to be able to pay a little more attention, and can read the longer articles with a minimum of re-reading, although I find myself skipping over individual sentences and paragraphs. Now, here's the funny part - the Adderall still hasn't taken full effect, that won't be for about another half hour - but my ability to focus has gotten so much better that by the time I'm halfway through the paper and hitting the continuations of the articles, I'll see something that I missed, and I'll go back to the beginning of the paper to start the very interesting article that escaped my attention on page 1 or 3 or whatever, and read the whole thing. THAT is how I know it's working. And boy, that is way better than a buzz in my book.
it's those college kids and other abusers of adderall who make us look bad.........it should be banned off line and should be a more controlled drug..............its not fair that people can feel better then normal while we take the drug to actually feel normal........losers.....i for one would have more of a less respect for my own body if i was normal and not take drugs.....maybe fish oil, cocao powder, and tyrosine.........that is enough for a normal person....freakin idiot, stoner, irresponsible, cheating people........it is the same with steroids...........if you don't suffer testosterone deficiency, there is no reason you should be taking them.....Mr. Olympia is a waste of humanity
VerySadKnicksFan 05-14-07, 12:20 PM But and this is a big but, when I don't take my meds I become an unfocused mess. This is when I notice that the meds are actually doing something. And my wife really notices.It's funny, my wife notices before I do when I haven't taken a dose in a while. I'll be walking around aimlessly, hopelessly distracted from whatever task I originally had in mind (like I used to be all the time before Adderall)... and she'll just ask, "Did you take your meds today?" I don't feel much different, but I certainly act different. Up until a few months ago, I still got a "high" from my normal dosage of Adderall, but not any longer. While the high was kind of nice, it's unnecessary and counterproductive - I don't want to be too happy and hyper to think, type, or act normally.
tammyfh 05-16-07, 04:19 PM Yep, I don't like that high and that is why I quit taking Adderall the first time. My first doc gave me 20mg XR and I couldn't handle it. My current doc gives me 10mg XR and that is perfect. When I'm about to start my menstral cycle I feel like I didn't take the 10mg and would like to feel better, but when I took more I felt worse.
fellow worker 05-29-07, 01:40 PM What i meant by the whole "live in our old world" thing was that from my experience seeing people who take adderall for fun go nuts like i used to... as i was called quite a few times "that kid bounces off of walls".... and I have seen people on it who take it for fun and they seem to be like how i was of course until the dose they took wore off. I know people who take it just so they can be energetic, stay up all night, and to just 'have fun'....And i used to always be energetic, stay up all night, and was awlays having fun, so when i see someone who takes it for fun i can normally tell..
Using amphetamines or other stimulants to increase focus or help study has nothing to do, in and of itself, with AD/HD. I'm not saying you don't have AD/HD, but taking AD/HD and finding you can focus better isn't a validation of AD/HD. This is what stimulants do. People with AD/HD have focus and attentiveness issues, and the stimulants bring us to the level, or sometimes more or less focused than "normal" folks.
The militaries of the world have used amphetamines for a long time (at least since WW1) to make people focus in situations where even normal folks are completely ragged. Like in war, long-term dull watch situations, or in cases where a moment of non-attentiveness is death, like for astronauts or fighter pilots. Most of these folks aren't AD/HD, yet the medicine is used in a very similar way, and is usually not abused by 14 year olds trying to get high.
People using amphetamines and caffeine to study are nothing new. People who have no problem focusing on things for long spells, unlike those with AD/HD, often take Ritalin/etc, amphetamines, caffeine to aid in study. Not neccesarily to "get high" but because they study better. It's like going from 0 to +5, when getting a stimulant for AD/HD might be like going to -5 to 0, -4 to +1, -10 to -3 or whatever.
Just to dispel some myths...
Using amphetamines or other stimulants to increase focus or help study has nothing to do, in and of itself, with AD/HD. I'm not saying you don't have AD/HD, but taking AD/HD and finding you can focus better isn't a validation of AD/HD. This is what stimulants do. People with AD/HD have focus and attentiveness issues, and the stimulants bring us to the level, or sometimes more or less focused than "normal" folks.
The militaries of the world have used amphetamines for a long time (at least since WW1) to make people focus in situations where even normal folks are completely ragged. Like in war, long-term dull watch situations, or in cases where a moment of non-attentiveness is death, like for astronauts or fighter pilots. Most of these folks aren't AD/HD, yet the medicine is used in a very similar way, and is usually not abused by 14 year olds trying to get high.
People using amphetamines and caffeine to study are nothing new. People who have no problem focusing on things for long spells, unlike those with AD/HD, often take Ritalin/etc, amphetamines, caffeine to aid in study. Not neccesarily to "get high" but because they study better. It's like going from 0 to +5, when getting a stimulant for AD/HD might be like going to -5 to 0, -4 to +1, -10 to -3 or whatever.
Just to dispel some myths...
I think you're about confused and don't some important things exactly(and I prob don't also)..
The army, and others who are studying/cramming late at night and avoiding sleep are taking amphetamines to avoid fatigue.
Psychostimulants have a far more focusing effect for those with ADHD compared to the effect it has on people who don't have ADHD. The amount that it allows us with ADHD to be less impulsive etc. is far greater compared to the amount that normal people experience when they are taking amphetamines (and this includes when they aren't taking it to avoid fatigue).
And also, ADHDers don't take psychostimulants to avoid fatigue, we use it for different reasons, and it has different effects on us.
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