hi. im wondering if paranioa is add related. and is paranoia the same as having a feeling that something bad is going to happen?

You may just have anxiety along with ADD. Paranoia comes along with anxiety.

how about depression? does it cause paranoia?

Paranoia is not quite the same as having a feeling of impending doom, which seems to be what you are talking about. Is that what you mean Bugs?

well im not actually the one that gets these feelings. its my bf. if he has done something to upset someone he gets the feeling that they are going to do something bad to him.

Has he been diagnosed with anything?

he was diagnosed with add when he was a teanager. he is 30 now and ive been doing alot of research and im seeing ocd also.

Sounds more like anxiety to me, too, but nobody here is qualified to give medical advice :)...I would not attribute paranoia to ADHD either, not in and of itself anyway.

oh no, im not trying to diagnose. im just trying to understand. i have questions and he doesnt like to talk about it. i want to be supportive and i cant do that with out educating my self. for me anxiety has never made me feel this way. then again neither has depression. and i have both chronic depression and anxiety disorder. i love him very much.and im just trying to be supportive.

You think people are 'out to get you'?
Do they want to Hurt you?
Do you constantly have suspiciousness?
Do you constantly question peoples motives, and believe them to be sinister? e.g. even strangers
Do you worry about protecting yourself?
Do you carry a weapon to prevent being attacked by them?
Do you have conspiracy beliefs like the FBI (or whomever) is out to get you?

That is "paranoia"....

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The false beliefs are called "delusions". Delusions are fixed ideas that remain in a person's belief system, even when overwhelming PROOF shows that they are not true.

e.g.


"I am God" (Narcissistic delusion)
"My family is a bunch of Imposters; someone stole my real family" (Capgras' Syndrome)
Sleeping with books under your bed is going to make you smarter than the FBI, so they won't catch you.
Or, storing iron frying pans under your bed will give you kryptonite-like Superman strength and protection.
Or, people are sending signals to you from outer space via your dental fillings ('thought insertion').
Or people are putting your ideas on the Radio ('thought broadcasting').
A 60 year old believing she is pregnant ('somatic delusion')

Paranoid and 'Delusional Depressions' and Psychotic Depressions can occur, yes.

Psychosis is not always in the context of Schizophrenia...

Basically, a Depression (or Anxiety disorder) CAN escalate to a Psychotic State, or Psychosis. (aka there is a "break with reality testing")


Postpartum Depression is another example in that it can Escalate to Postpartum Psychosis.


Often women with Postpartum Psychosis will believe that they have to kill their babies/children to save them from "The Devil", or stuff like that.
These women should not be Imprisoned (no legal existence of MENS REA). Rather they should be in a Forensic Ward of a Mental Hospital.
re: Mens Rea requirement. They do not want to "hurt" the baby. They believe they are "saving it" or "protecting it" by killing it.)

ADD can have secondary Anxiety, but should not usually have a clinically noticeable feature of paranoia.

Some Paranoid Illnesses (Schizophrenia) will have the ADHD looking component of EXECUTIVE FUNCTION deficits ('negative symptoms'), but typically not.

Most folks with Paranoid Schizophrenia, tend to have Positive Symptoms, and lack Negative symptoms. (THis is why their Prognosis is so good!)

Negative Symptoms are a bad bad omen in Schizophrenia. They also lead a person to often go on for years with a hidden and untreated psychosis... People with Paranoid Schizophrenia or Traits tend to get Treated Fast. (B/c they get into Interpersonal Conflicts or Conflicts with the Law !)

Paranoia can be a co-existing conditions or personality traits. (An MMPI test would pick this up!)

Remember: People can have many DIFFERENT mental problems going on at the same time. (e.g. bipolar, ADHD, paranoid Personality Disorder; anxiety)

People can also have Paranoid Personality Disorder.

Some People with some types of temporal lobe epilepsy or brain injuries can have suspicion-affected symptoms and have dark mood "storms".

The danger in dealing with people with Paranoid States is that they are "feeling under attack".

They will attack others (cops, people who come close) in the context of "protecting themselves". Often they are so fearful that they will carry weapons.

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I suspect the answer to your Question is "severe Anxiety", and not full-blown "Paranoia". :) People tend to misuse the term...

its not to these extremes. example: the new neighbor across the street hung out with us and my bf said some judgemental things to him .things that i wouldnt consider bad. there was a heated discussion but no anger. now my bf thinks the neighbor watches him and hes afraid he may break into his house or garage and steal stuff. my bf goes to the window when ever he hears the neighbor come home. and he thinks hes watching him when i think hes just outside having a smoke. Its been going on for some time. 2 months or so. what do you think?

I think he needs to see someone.

I have anxiety and I'm no stranger to paranoia.
This sounds like a little of both and finding the underlying cause requires help of a doctor.

But keep researching. The more educated you are the better off you'll be when talking to a doctor.

yay im not the only one who gets all paranoid lol:rolleyes:

A little bit of paranoia may not a bad thing at times. It depends what's going on in your life. If you are overly suspicious most of the time then it can be a worry. But ADDers being more intuitive than most often get accused of being paranoid! I find too that I often think about lots of different scenarios when I'm planning something - it's not paranoia just wanting to be prepared and not liking surprises especially nasty ones. Real paranoia is like thinking ur being followed by the KGB and unless u work for ASIO this is extremely unlikely, or thinking some authority is bugging your house or you've been implanted with a micro chip so you can be traced. I've had some clients who told me things like this, one who believed a micro chip had been implanted in him when he had been in hospital for an operation - now that's paranoia. Like all people with mental illnesses people with paranoia need to be treated with sensitivity and understanding.

A very brief run about research do not show any direct links between ADD and paranoia.

Okay well off to the beach with me.

My boyfriend (ADD) was convinced that I was secretively talking to other men through the internet and through e-mail. He got VERY upset one day after discovering men's phone numbers in my cell phone's phone list, and he mis-read all of my actions as being secretive.

I know he tried to control his wild thoughts, but they totally consumed him, and we fought endlessly about it. Bottom-Line, he didn't trust me. It hurt so much to know this, because I on the other hand was trying everything to make him believe that I was not communicating with ANYONE. It even got to the point where I stopped communicating with my best friends. I stopped using the internet altogether and stopped phoning people, as well.

Borderline Emotional Abuse I think, but I snapped out of being the "victim," and moved out of his apartment to salvage the relationship. Things seemed to have changed, but I still feel unsafe talking about my other friends to him. I'm not sure how he would take it-so far so good, but it has been very difficult for me, being uber-social.

So Paranoia and ADD don't really relate, but do ADDults have difficulty seeing things from another's perspective? And when thoughts run amuck, is it difficult for ADDers to gather factual information and control their "imaginations?"

You guys are all so great. Thanks all!

So Paranoia and ADD don't really relate, but do ADDults have difficulty seeing things from another's perspective? And when thoughts run amuck, is it difficult for ADDers to gather factual information and control their "imaginations?"

What you are describing strikes me more as insecurity than paranoia.

Yes ADDers especially if we are impulsive can have trouble with insight into our own minds and actions therefore it would be almost impossible to be able to slow the though flow down enough to see things from some one else's point of view. For me the lack of insight was often due to the overwhelming noise going on inside my head constantly. I had some insight before I began treatment but only because my mother spent years trying to teach it to me. Gary also is ADD and he has a huge problem with this I often have to beat him off my personal boundaries with a whip and chair.

He tried to forbid me from going to church. . . . .I told him that he simply was not going to be given that much control over my actions. He could get in the car and go with me, let me go or be knocked on his a** so I could climb over him and get to my car. I was going period. . . .if Gary had a problem with that he had a problem. . . . . .it wasn't going to stop me from going to church gravy it wasn't like I was going to see the Chip and Dales. . . . :faint:

Gary and I went through hell and high water with these issues of trust. . . .Gary got so bad I had to yank his happy a** to sanity. I yanked him so hard he thought he was in Jr. High again and I was just warming up.. ..being another ADDer helps me some times when it comes to dealing with Gary. . . . .in many ways I understand these issues from both sides.

Insecurity is more than likely the issue with the jealously however to cut you off from family and friends is emotional abuse and should not be tolerated under any circumstances. . . . . . he need to work on his issues they are after all his.

To me it would make sense that ADHD (particularly inattentive) would be somewhat more vulnerable to paranoia .. if you have a mind that's ever wandering .. roaming through possibilities .. unfocused on the task ahead .. PARANOIA THRIVES :) Not to say that ADHD = PARANOIA. But certainly the unfocused brain can weave anything if it's not grounded in concrete day-to-day (minute-by-minute?) activity.

Hi,

Hypersensitivity can also be mistaken for paranoid ideation at times; as there are degrees of severity for everything.

Often times, ADHD individuals have to defend themselves and the disorder,which makes it difficult not to react with an attitude of some sort.


I've enjoyed reading the responses and I hope you're doing well.


tc,


Robert

Often times, ADHD individuals have to defend themselves and the disorder,which makes it difficult not to react with an attitude of some sort.


Hmmmmm I thinks you have got a point here. It is kind of kin to insecurity but more accurately stated.

Nice of you to drop by and say hi. . ..

Okay I came here to ADDF to do some thing. . . . .. gee if I could only remember what. Maybe chocolate ice cream will help me remember, or at least help me forget I forgot.

I can reflect on my experience with a "Mixed Episode, Severe, with Psychotic Features" paranoia if you have time...

I woke up in the morning and people were poisoning all of the food in my house, my neighbors were conspiring to kill me and I was being hunted down by snipers from the CIA, I was being followed from a set of "Telepathic CIA Detectives" and they were controlling my every thought, Leaving any place in the town I live was impossible for me because snipers were at point everywhere, The front page of the paper was going to have a picture of me with an expose on the 'Sociopath' living in their town, there was a trip wire and a shotgun outside the door of the apartment I lived in and I obsessed about the Satanic Terrorists that were employed at Walmart... That my friends is paranoia because as odd as it sounds I beleived it was real and was scared to death.

You guys are so incredible. May I ask, where does all this knowledge and insight into ADD come from? Did you discover that you had ADD, and immerse yourself in self-education? I imagine that it could go two ways with ADDers: 1) You are very interested in the condition, thus you find all the information you can about it, or 2) you are not interested at all, and avoid learning about it, period.

I'm just trying to understand, and am wondering how my boyfriend might be. I suppose I'm preparing myself to be detached to the outcome (he doesn't know it, but I'm going to tell him soon that I think he has ADD). I suppose he may either resist it as a disorder, or surrender to it as a condition. Is this a healthy way for me to think, as a non-ADDer?

I woke up in the morning and people were poisoning all of the food in my house, my neighbors were conspiring to kill me and I was being hunted down by snipers from the CIA, I was being followed from a set of "Telepathic CIA Detectives" and they were controlling my every thought, Leaving any place in the town I live was impossible for me because snipers were at point everywhere, The front page of the paper was going to have a picture of me with an expose on the 'Sociopath' living in their town, there was a trip wire and a shotgun outside the door of the apartment I lived in and I obsessed about the Satanic Terrorists that were employed at Walmart... That my friends is paranoia because as odd as it sounds I beleived it was real and was scared to death.

Yeppers that would be what I called paranoia, man does it sound like it sucks.




I can reflect on my experience with a "Mixed Episode, Severe, with Psychotic Features" paranoia if you have time...

:eek: and I complain about being ADHD and dyslexic, okay so I am a winnie. :o




You guys are so incredible. May I ask, where does all this knowledge and insight into ADD come from? Did you discover that you had ADD, and immerse yourself in self-education?

I up to my eye balls in ADHD. Not only do I have ADD primarily hyperactive, I have a brother who is ADD - combined, a sister who is ADD with bi-polar, she has a son who is the same. All three of my daughters are ADD.

One is ADD combined with dyslexia, second one is ADD combined with bi-polar, third is ADD inattentive with border line personality and social phobia. All diagnosis are actual diagnosis done by professionals.

If that wasn't enough ADD, I just married a man who has more ADD hyperactive traits than I do, so much so my doctors says it is a good thing at least one of us is treating the hyperactive ADD. . .two un-medicated ADDers in a truck with a dog may never make it to his office, the grocery store, the gas station . . . . . some thing about the constant bouncing and climbing at age 47 being a red flag for hyperactive ADD.

I see NTers at the store.



I imagine that it could go two ways with ADDers: 1) You are very interested in the condition, thus you find all the information you can about it, or 2) you are not interested at all, and avoid learning about it, period.

Our reaction to being ADD is as individual as we are.

Naturally the people you meet here would fall into the category of those seeking to educate themselves about ADD simply because those who are not interested in learning more about ADD don't join on-line support groups.

One of my daughters takes medication {when she is not pregnant = presently pregnant}and she is also a member here although her visited are sporadic{that un-medicated bi-polar ADD thing means her life resembles a roller coaster ride during an earth quake}

The other two daughters are aware of their condition and choose not to take medications, my sister and I both take medications and are members here. My brother basically lives in denial, my nephew is in the process of under going the emotional :eek: :mad: :( :confused: part of admitting he has a neurobiological condition. . . . .

Not only do we each deal with our ADD differently we are each in various stages of acceptance {or denial}





I'm preparing myself to be detached to the outcome (he doesn't know it, but I'm going to tell him soon that I think he has ADD). I suppose he may either resist it as a disorder, or surrender to it as a condition.

Male young I am betting denial at least in the beginning, he may become annoyed. That was Gary's reaction, four years later Gary is just now adjusting to the idea that he might just be a tad ADDish. . . :rolleyes: . He still won't admit he is ADD but he is getting used to being called "Mr I ain't got no ADD" and having questions like "why do I run around in circles all day and get very little done" answered with "because you ain't got no ADHD"

Actually I have been sneaking in statements and reading some of the post I run across here. . .I say sneaking because I will some times read post from debate communities and blogs from myspace as well and I do not tell him where I am reading from. . . .I don't let him see until after I am finished and have received a response from him. Did I mention Gary and I have been together four years this past June the 4th?

Bottom line your boy friend could react any number of ways but when it comes to relationship decisions you must be willing to accept him as he is right now. It went through a really rough time when I refused to simply accept Gary the way he is. I kept hoping he would at least try medications and accept the fact he is as ADD as I am. He will accept the possibility but he has told me straight out he does not intend to take any medications. See Gary is a recovering alcoholic and drug addict and fears relapse more than ADD and death combined.

After a couple of years I finally let go of my own expectations of how I think Gary should handle his neurodiversity. . . .letting go of my expectations was the best thing I ever did for or relationship and for myself. Once I began to accept Gary as Gary hyperactive ADD and all I began to learn how un-qualified I am to run his life. He has been ADD all of his life just as I have, Gary has managed to learn how to live and forage a life being himself. Like most human beings especially when discussing the male varieties Gary does much better with suggestions than he ever did with expectations and demands. When I accepted Gary for who he was I began to also respect his decisions and consider his point of view, as ADD as he is Gary began following suite by becoming wiling to accept me as I am respect my decisions and consider my point of view.

I choose to deal with my ADD by changing my brain chemistry so I could better conform to the non-ADD world, Gary chose to conform his environment to his ADD traits. In the end I was flabbergasted at just how contextual the dysfunctional aspect of ADD really is. Gary simply learned how to change the environmental context to down play his deficits and accurate his strengths. Both approaches have their good points and their not so good. Gary's approach is different than mine but that is okay because it is after all his life his ADD his problem and his choice. . . . .I have my life,my own ADD, my own problems and I shall be free to make my own choices. The freedom and acceptance I expect for my self turns out to be a responsibility I have to extend the same acceptance and freedom to him.


I suppose he may either resist it as a disorder, or surrender to it as a condition. Is this a healthy way for me to think, as a non-ADDer?

Please do remember at this point you merely suspect your boyfriend to be ADD only a qualified professional can determine this {even my doctor thinks Gary is probably ADD so I have a little more than a lay-mans suspicion}

The following is my personal opinion of how best to handle your suspicion

#1 I always check my intentions at the door, I have saved my self a lot of trouble doing this. I do not know your boy friend only you do so I have no choice but to draw conclusions based upon my own experiences.

When I told Gary I thought he was ADD I wanted to help him.I thought if he treated his ADD he would be more organized and be able to run his business more smoothly. Sense I too have ADD I thought treatment would be some thing we could truly share as a couple.I also though it would make it easier for me to maintain my personal boundaries. Gary can be intrusive at times. I am telling you all this stuff because I do not want you to beat your head against a brick wall for two years like I did. . . . .

#2 Do NOT expect him to want to run out and get treatment immediately, and be willing to accept the fact he like Gary may never do so.

#3 If he reacts in anger or denial do not push the subject. ADDers are notorious for being rebellious the harder yo push the more resistant he will probably become. ADD or not most people when they feel under attack will become defensive thus decreasing the willingness to be open to others suggestions and ideas.

I have better luck educating Gary about ADD by approaching it as wanting to educate him about my ADD, to which there is truth. Gary also does better with small bits of information sneak in here and there during normal conversations. Like I said if I read a post I think he can relate to or that reminds me of him I read it to him. . . . .and often leave it at that.

Gary went a long time without ever really acting like he heard me, it has only been within the past 18 months Gary has began actually asking questions. It is like he is opening the door a tiny crack and man is it hard for me not to simply push my way in. . .patience is not my strong suite so I must depend on my distractability. . . . {I only have to resist the urge for about 30 seconds = 30 seconds the length of my attention span}


#4 When making relationship decisions base them upon who he is now not what he could become.


#5 Do not try to change him only he can do that.

i wonder what stage im at in terms of accepting the fact i have ADD:confused: . I like the idea of changing my envirnoment instead of my brian chemistry i dont got a Phd to understand that kind of thing:eyebrow:

I like the idea of changing my envirnoment instead of my brian chemistry i dont got a Phd to understand that kind of thing

Gary doesn't have a Phd either. . . . . who knows when it was he saw one last.

i believe adapting is the best medicine for coping with ADD. I mean that if you can learn tolerance(without drugs) to people and places you can be a stronger person not only within yourself but also to the people you know on a regular basis. Making due with whats around you is great and it even sharpens your problem solving skills if you think spatially i think. And i think the meds limit certain people more so than others. And some people just take the meds to be NT and end up becoming different people and become more confused than in the first place. Remember 100-150 years ago there was no medication for ADD, and people with ADD werent out in the streets forming mobs attacking people.

Im not going to lie most of the people i met with ADD that did take there meds are very different from me. They are almost to a point of either being autistic or compulsive (i know its an ADD trait) cause they always want that same environment there used too and its all there familiar with. These people always wanna do the same thing day in day out i dunno. These people still act like they have add dont get me wrong but there personalities havent change and they are the same dull people i remember they used to be. These were the people that were mad at me for not taking special needs in school like them since we both have add. I was the wild side (animal:cool: )that scared them i guess. I think there the victims of the system.

Im not going to lie most of the people i met with ADD that did take there meds are very different from me. They are almost to a point of either being autistic or compulsive (i know its an ADD trait) cause they always want that same environment there used too and its all there familiar with.

????? I am not sure I am understanding this at all I believe that some people with ADD prefer a very structured environment because knowing what to expect from their environments helps the internal chaos and doing the same thing every day helps ADD people remember to do certain routine things {like brushing their teeth, taking a bath, watering the cat}. I do not see medications as having some zombie like effect even after decades simply because I do not think I am a zombie by any stretch of the imagination.

ADD is not being able to consciously control the direction of your focus nor can we internally control the length time we can pay attention. Most ADDers seem to have a stimuli control valve problem where they either can not filter out un-necessary stimuli and there for are bombarded by stimuli thus easily distracted or they filter out too much stimuli where they not only tune out un-necessary stimuli but they filter out the necessary as well thus appear spacey and "out of it".

The coping methods and secondary responses are as individual as we are. Some enjoy novelty while others freak out if there are any changes while most of us fall some where in between these two. I think people should use what ever means of dealing with their ADD they find useful and productive.

As some one who had been on the same dose of Adderall for years I can assure you after one is on medications a while they no longer "feel" any thing. I can't feel my medications take effect nor do I feel them wear off , I know they are working because I have more awareness of my direction of focus and I am able to better control the length of my attention span.

Meadd i probally mis wrote my post but other ADDers opinion of me in real life has been bad. If anything im surrounded by inattentive and combined type ADDers and they all took there meds. I didnt cause meds werent what i wanted. Just because of my hyperactivity alone i was the "Poster Boy of Failure" to them growing up in highschool.

Im not going to get into details but alot of them worked against me cause honestly i think i scared them with my animalistic/hyperactive tendencies. I shouldnt have attacked the structured world of the medicated ADDer but my whole life theyve been attacking my unorganized/organized world and have been trying to convince me my way of coping is flawed.

No matter how knowledgable or unbiased i was on a topic some Medicated ADDers would ignore what i had to say the same way some NTers ignored me. And i aint gonna lie half those ADDers that made my life tough in highschool are struggling way more than iam now half didnt even go to college let alone graduate from college and i have no sympathy for them.none

And my whole opinion changed when i found these forums and found out that medicated users go through the same hardships as me, but i aint going to forgive the fools of the past until they accept there wrongs.

sorry for going offtopic

This is written about a few and not a representation of all

Im not going to get into details but alot of them worked against me cause honestly i think i scared them with my animalistic/hyperactive tendencies. I shouldnt have attacked the structured world of the medicated ADDer but my whole life theyve been attacking my unorganized/organized world and have been trying to convince me my way of coping is flawed.


Just as you would not want to be stereotyped for deciding not to take medications I do not wish to be stereotyped for deciding to take medications. It really is that simple. Half of the ADDers in my life have decided not to take medications and that is their choice, the other have and that too is their choice.

Medications do not get me out of bed in the morning, they do not decided to walk off from an un-productive argument, they do not make my bed or do my dishes. I do all of those things/ Medication only allows ME to access the part of my brain that makes these activities possible. They allow me to make my thoughts more linear, I am more aware of time,but most importantly on medications I can at least back ground un-necessary stimuli so I am not so bombarded by life.

I have no problems being un-medicated late at night when every one is asleep and all is quite, I often post long after my last dose of Adderall has worn off but I can because there is no distractions. . . . .the number one reason I take medications is because my brain processes every little sound, sight, smell, feeling and thought. During the day when my medications wear off I feel like I am under constant bombardment. . .I just want to scream at people {and I will too = not good for business at all} . .if you can live this way hey why should I have a problem with that? I don't want you telling me how to be ADD so I certainly have no intention of dictating to you or any one else how they should be ADD. . . . . I don't tell my husband how to be ADD and I have to live with his.

As some one who has had three ADD daughters and now lives with an un-medicated ADHD man here is my personal opinion of why there can be conflicts with other people when one is hyperactive. . . . .


Being hyperactive ADD can over whelm others even others who have ADD. My husband has much the same problem. Although he does okay with business relationship more intimate relationship are difficult for him{and others} because he does not know where other people's personal boundaries are, this causes him to be intrusive. It isn't his intention but it is the result of his un-medicated hyperactive ADD. He just has so many thought running through his brain at once that he can not slow them down long enough to stop and consider other people's perspective. Although he has improved it has taken a longggg time. . .Living with him can be draining on my own energy . . . . I have to frequently beat him off my boundaries with a whip and a chair not every one is willing to do this nor do very many people understand why he can feel over whelming. Last of all not every one is hyperactive enough to keep up with him.

What come into brain pops out his mouth and it often lack a bit of tact. I will admit he has learned by having his own presentation thrown right back at him. It can be hard to have an exchange with him because he will impulsively react at first. I often have to present an idea put up with his initial reaction and then some times it sinks in and some times it doesn't.

He often fails to see how his own reactions or lack of them results in certain out comes. It has taken me two years to get him to understand his income is decreased by rain because he has failed to place gravel down in our loading areas. He used to blame it on the rain but hey rain happens most people know it will happen and they prepare for it by putting gravel down so their delivery trucked do not get stuck in the mud. .:eyebrow: . .little things like that can be frustrating even for those who understand what is happening.

I have had to legally vest in his business so I can now have a say in what happens and gravel is high on my list of changes. It is frustrating to see a bright creative man get stuck in the mud and get mad at the rain when you know jolly good and well it is his own lack of forethought that has him stuck. . . . the rain happens. I still have to deal with the emotional fall out and I have to go toe to toe with him to get a point across. . . . . .few people are hyperactive enough to be able to with stand living with him and dealing with this stuff day in and day out.

This is just an example of the stuff I have to deal with and although I love my husband there are times I could strangle the **** him. . . . .but he is also one of the few people who can deal with me and my own expression of ADHD. I can deal with some one who wants to dish it out as long as they are able to take it. . .and Gary takes me pretty well most of the time. :D

If you do not wish to take medication I have no problems with that however I am not a high school student. I am more secure than a high school student and I have enough maturity under my belt to have developed good personal boundaries that protect me from medicated ADDers, un-medicated ADDers, NTers and people who are just jerks.

I was born with just the right amount of ambelievence to prevent me from getting my knickers in a knot.I just have this thing about generalizations that is all.



i aint going to forgive the fools of the past until they accept there wrongs.


Un-forgiveness is an awful high price for you to pay.

My first husband is still mad at me for crap that happened over 20 years ago. The people that were born the day we last saw each other are now well past drinking age.{over 21} He has COPD, high blood pressure, diabetes few if any friends,and he has managed to alienate most of his own family. Until recently I didn't even know he was upset with me about any thing. I do not even know what he is mad about and frankly I do not think he remembers any more either. I have not lost one night sleep in the past 20+ years mean while his bitterness has eaten him up. . . . .

They won't suffer if you refuse to forgive them you will = I know first hand.

I have always thanked God I didn't have the attention span to carry a grudge it seems like a horrible waste on energy and life.

its not to these extremes. example: the new neighbor across the street hung out with us and my bf said some judgemental things to him .things that i wouldnt consider bad. there was a heated discussion but no anger. now my bf thinks the neighbor watches him and hes afraid he may break into his house or garage and steal stuff. my bf goes to the window when ever he hears the neighbor come home. and he thinks hes watching him when i think hes just outside having a smoke. Its been going on for some time. 2 months or so. what do you think?
Yeah, I'd like to know, too. I have some similar wonderings about MY bf. He worries about what I consider some dumb things. He might act the same way as yours does if he were in this situation.

My boyfriend (ADD) was convinced that I was secretively talking to other men through the internet and through e-mail. He got VERY upset one day after discovering men's phone numbers in my cell phone's phone list, and he mis-read all of my actions as being secretive.

I know he tried to control his wild thoughts, but they totally consumed him, and we fought endlessly about it.

Below is a quote from this website:

http://www.addresources.org/article_50_adhd_tips_adult_hallowell_ratey.php

Remember that ADHD usually includes a tendency to overfocus or hyperfocus at times. This hyperfocusing can be used constructively or destructively. Be aware of its destructive use: a tendency to obsess or ruminate over some imagined problem without being able to let it go.

I wonder if ruminating on something, worrying about it to death, unable to stop thinking about it, etc. may not look like paranoia? I do this a lot, and I don't think it is paranoia as much as just obsessive dwelling. Might be worth considering.

True paranoia such as described in this thread (terrorists working at Walmart, etc.) is not what I am talking about here.

i get peranoid some times

I always think that people can read my mind.
& I don't like to talk about other people behind thier back because I get really worried that they are nearby and can hear everything (even if that's impossible).

Is that a form of paranoia

Is that a form of paranoia


I don't see it is a paranoia I see your discription as a means of staying out of senseless social garbage and spineless gossiping activites. This is only my personal opinion.

Hmmm anxiety...yup got that in spades....but is there a gradation into paranoia, or does a switch flip in the brain.

I'm still struggling to come to terms with the fact that my high levels of anxiety about EVERYTHING are a sign of something not quite right in the brain. Its one of the reasons I get so annoyed with people...why can't they SEE that things are screwing up and DO something about it....in work, in life.

however I have felt, that things will naturally screw up for me no matter what I do, just because I'm me and I'm dead unlucky. Instead of accepting that things screw up sometimes and accepting it I end up trying to organise everything to the nth degree and getting very stressed when things aren't sorted.....because....

I believe I am the walking embodiment of Murphy's Law......

But I am assuming thats not mild paranoia, because its internalised within me and does not involve the malevolent intent of those around me, strangers or not.

kilt

You can believe that 'God is everywhere' and he created the universe and can do anything etc etc and ur just labelled as religious but if you believe you or someone else can do that then ur labelled as paranoid...it's all in the mind and there is only one reality and it's yours.

Remember..... Just because you're paranoid, it don't mean that they're not after you.

My paranoia (if it is paranoia at all) comes from years and years of undiagnosed ADHD with a good dose of complete unacceptance. Good greif, with us being continuosly afraid of what we have forgotten or didn't do, it isn't a big suprise that there are nights that we lie awake wondering if someone is really mad at us or that we are going to accidentally hurt someone.

Why are you asking? What do you mean by that? What's in it for you, asking me that? Are you part of the plot to ask me questions I don't know the answer to? Why would you think I know anything about paranoia? You're trying to trick me into saying something! I won't fall for it!!!

I think a touch of paranoia befalls anyone who feels out of step with the world at large. I spent long years of my life not knowing what was going on, and feeling like a fool; that would make anyone a bit paranoid.