Here is an experimental test to measure various aspects of autism spectrum.
Oh mods before you kill this by moving it to the autism form I think the numbers from this might be used to quantify some aspects of ADHD. So it would be nice to see alot people with ADHD take it. I think you might should mentions if your taking meds to(I'm not :( ).

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# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement


rbi 8.25
si 8
lg 5
poc 7
ir 4
rp 7
s 5
m 4.75

Oh mods before you kill this by moving it to the autism form

When we kill some thing we generally lock it or remove it, however we some times move things to other areas in an effort to keep the site organized. . . I know ADDers and organization is an oxymoron but it is done to make specific information quicker to find. Few people have the attention span to sort though mounds of information in search of one especially not around here.


I am too tired take the test or move the thread. . . . . I don't have a problem with it being here but I am only one of two moderators in this area. Highfunctioning is the other although he is more category orientated { it is all generally ADD to me} he is has been known to "take request"

Right now the only thing I am moving is my self to bed. I do not think I have ever taken this one before so I will look forward to doing the test tomorrow.

Nite.

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# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =8.5
SI=7.25
L=4.5
POC=9.5
IR=5.5
RP=5.5
S=4.75
M=5.5


Always thought I was HFA but I've never been diagnosed.

When we kill some thing we generally lock it or remove it, however we some times move things to other areas in an effort to keep the site organized. . . I know ADDers and organization is an oxymoron but it is done to make specific information quicker to find. Few people have the attention span to sort though mounds of information in search of one especially not around here.


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No it was just the name of the test is a bit deceptive and since there is an autism sub forum here the knee jerk reaction of some mods would be to move it. (I'm a moderator on an aspergers forum site :) ).

Oh its estimated 75% of the people on the autism spectrum have comorbid ADD/ADHD. So I expect people with ADHD to score similar to those on the autism spectrum on this test.

No it was just the name of the test is a bit deceptive and since there is an autism sub forum here the knee jerk reaction of some mods would be to move it. (I'm a moderator on an aspergers forum site)

Accurate deduction - at the appropriate forum.

Oh its estimated 75% of the people on the autism spectrum have comorbid ADD/ADHD. So I expect people with ADHD to score similar to those on the autism spectrum on this test.Theta, the test is done in sections. Which sections do you think people with ADHD and people with Autism will have similar scores?

I still have no clue what having social anxiety has to do with social understanding, but I'm not very high in anything except the planning section... and can't that be expected?

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# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =3.75
SI=4.5
L=5
POC=6.75
IR=2.25
RP=3.75
S=3.5
M=1


Not shown in image copy - 0 indicates no autistic component, 10 indicates a strong autistic component.
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I am unsure what is being sought here but all of my scores are under 5 except for the "Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organize and stay focused
" which would be very effected by my ADHD and should be expected.

Some area are caused by other things not Autistic in nature, I have very sensitive hearing and perfect pitch so some sounds do bother me that others are not bothered by not because I am Autistic but because other people simply can not hear the noise at all, When it comes to music I would venture to say most people are tone deaf or pretty close. Perfect pitch even before any musical training is pretty rare but runs in my family. At three months old if instruments were not tuned properly or some one hit the keys wrong I would scream - according to my mother = I have excellent long term re-call but it ain't that good.

I have problems communicating in writing because of my dyslexia, which is my next highest score. The thing I might share with Autistic individuals is I do not think in words. I use mostly pictures but like the tree image I not only could picture the tree I could feel it, hear the leaves rustling in the wind. I read and remember the same way I use all my sense when I remember not just one or two. I not only can use visual but I have excellent auditory. I can play any song I have heard once or twice in my head just like I heard it. . . . I can pull song or sounds up in my head at will but getting them to stop is another matter all together. . . :eyebrow:

It is an interesting discussion I have heard Autistics and ADD are closely connected, in some ways I can see it even if in many ways I have not experienced it. However my ADD experience itself my not reflect the ADD normal {puns intended}

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# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =1.5
SI=1.25
L=0.75
POC=2.75
IR=0
RP=0.5
S=0.25
M=1.25

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# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =8.75
SI=7.5
L=7.25
POC=8
IR=9.25
RP=8.25
S=7
M=5





Ahh! That result is a bit shoking! I am definatly not as severe as this test has makes me look.

Theta, the test is done in sections. Which sections do you think people with ADHD and people with Autism will have similar scores?

POC is the most likely.

I've read one theory on inattentive ADHD is "working memory" problems so perhaps I will design a simple test like that. Oh an example is you are forced to remember data and then do an operation on the data in your head. Despite
my extreme inattention my working memory is average but when I'm expected to preform an operation on data in short term memory I crash. :)

Oh my secret evil goal is to find a less subjective quantify way to measure inattention ADHD in people.


Ahh! That result is a bit shoking! I am definatly not as severe as this test has makes me look.

Yeah you score off the map like you have aspergers or High function autism (HFA). How do you score on this aspie test:

http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php

Yeah you score off the map like you have aspergers or High function autism (HFA). How do you score on this aspie test:

http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.phpThanks for the link to the test, heres my result:

Your Aspie score: 174 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 35 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie

Trait group Score Judgement

Motor difficulty 8.6 Above average

Perception difference 8.8 Above average

Aspie talent 9.0 Above average

Aspie disability 9.3 Above average

Social difference 8.9 Above average

Aspie instinct 8.7 Above average

Aspie communication 7.7 Above average

Neurotypical communication difficulty 8.6 Above average



I am seeing my doctor soon about whether I have Aspergers or not but the appointment isn't for at least 2 months.

I don't really know anything about Aspergers or HFA, in fact I know so little about them I don't even know what the difference is between the two. :confused:

In a nutshell;

HFA is someone with autism who can talk. Usually has a speech delay as a child (or goes mute suddenly at an early age), May or may not have a "normal" IQ, and typically has a performance IQ higher than verbal IQ (due to speech delay in childhood)

AS is someone who meets the requirements for autism but can talk and interract socially, and has a normal or above IQ. Aspies do not have a speech delay as a child and typically have a verbal IQ higher than their performance IQ. Cognitive abilities are likely to be normal.

AS and HFA are both PDD's, but are different "grades" of autism. Some autistics argue that AS is not autism at all, but a totally separate disorder...

In general AS is a "milder" form of autism than HFA (but some say it is not)

In real life autism often presents itself as a more profound disconnect, where someone with AS may be difficult to tell from a "normal" person.... there are notable excpetions such as Kim Peek, the HFA who is famous as the "rain man".

The range over which autism spectrum disorders occur is so wide it is difficult to saywhere the edges of the disorder lie.

There are more differences, but this is the gist of it.

Me :D



Thanks for the link to the test, heres my result:

Your Aspie score: 174 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 35 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie


I am seeing my doctor soon about whether I have Aspergers or not but the appointment isn't for at least 2 months.

I don't really know anything about Aspergers or HFA, in fact I know so little about them I don't even know what the difference is between the two. :confused:

In a nutshell;

HFA is someone with autism who can talk. Usually has a speech delay as a child (or goes mute suddenly at an early age), May or may not have a "normal" IQ, and typically has a performance IQ higher than verbal IQ (due to speech delay in childhood)

AS is someone who meets the requirements for autism but can talk and interract socially, and has a normal or above IQ. Aspies do not have a speech delay as a child and typically have a verbal IQ higher than their performance IQ. Cognitive abilities are likely to be normal.

AS and HFA are both PDD's, but are different "grades" of autism. Some autistics argue that AS is not autism at all, but a totally separate disorder...

In general AS is a "milder" form of autism than HFA (but some say it is not)

In real life autism often presents itself as a more profound disconnect, where someone with AS may be difficult to tell from a "normal" person.... there are notable excpetions such as Kim Peek, the HFA who is famous as the "rain man".

The range over which autism spectrum disorders occur is so wide it is difficult to saywhere the edges of the disorder lie.

There are more differences, but this is the gist of it.

Me :D

Thank you so much Speedo for explaining this for me!

I would say if I had any type of PDD then it would be Aspergers and not HFA because I am not like Kim Peek or like Rain Man. The only problem with that is I had speech delay when I was little so that makes everything confusing again.

Getting diagnosed with aspergers as an adult can be difficult thing to achieve. I have heard people having trouble with the NHS in UK. Often you need to be referred to an expert by your doctor. So do not be surprised if it takes many more months to get an official diagnosis.

Sometimes , when a person has many traits of PDD but does not fir the criterial for autism or asperger's syndrome they use the label "PDD N.O.S.", or "atypical autism". This would be the "mildest" category for PDD.

I agree with theta. Getting a diagnosis of an autism spectrum disorder as an adult is going to be difficult and time consuming. In many ways the medical establishment seems to think that if you were not diagnosed with a PDD by age 5, you can't possibly have it.

You usually end up diagnosed with other disorders and everythng else is eventually eliminated one at a time. It's not unusual for someone on the spectrum to first be dx'd with ADHD or bipolar, then later social anxiety disorder, and eventually PDD or AS after everything else has been rulted out. The process can take a long time.

Me :D


Thank you so much Speedo for explaining this for me!

I would say if I had any type of PDD then it would be Aspergers and not HFA because I am not like Kim Peek or like Rain Man. The only problem with that is I had speech delay when I was little so that makes everything confusing again.

Your Aspie score: 73 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 144 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical

Motor difficulty - 0.6 (Below average)
Perception difference - 3.6 (Average)
Aspie talent - 5.4 (Average)
Aspie disability - 3.1 (Below average)
Social difference - 3.1 (Below average)
Aspie instinct - 3.2 (Below average)
Aspie communication - 3.6 (Average)
NT communication difficulty - 2.2 (Below average)

When I was taking this, I did remember few odd things I used to do as a kid, around 4 and 5 years of age. Such be obsessed with counting things. And sorting things... I had a ton of buckets, each of which would hold a certain category of items. A bucket of pennies. A bucket of dimes. A bucket of quarters. A bucket of rubber toy car tires. A bucket of plastic firemen. A bucket of plastic animals. Etc.

I would also have these impulsive urges to organize random piles of things into coherent, structured patterns and such.

And I would get a lot of bizarre, completely non-sequitur visual associations in my mind to words, and whenever I heard them, this mental image would also flash across my mind. Like... "nerd" was a pig on a teeter totter. "Brat" was a neon plastic necklace. "Hour" was an evergreen bush. "Second" (as in unit of time) was a jumping bushel of haystalks with legs. Bizarre stuff.

Dunno what all of that is related to, probably not anything. I just find it interesting.

I wonder how common it is for those with ADHD to have a few autistic traits... it seems like at least the computer using ADDers do, but maybe that's to be expected because the other ones may be more extraverted or maybe something else completely different.

I scored a 71 on the latest Aspie Quiz and this was for the components quiz, which really is identical with meadd:

RBI=3.75
SI=5
L=4.25
POC=7.75
IR=4
RP=3
S=1.5
M=2.25

I wonder how common it is for those with ADHD to have a few autistic traits... it seems like at least the computer using ADDers do, but maybe that's to be expected because the other ones may be more extraverted or maybe something else completely different.

I don't think AD/HD and Autism are at all related... I've read a few things by some people saying that AD/HD is on the Autistic Spectrum, which I think is BS. Autism just happens to have some symptoms that *look* like AD/HD. But the origins/causes of AD/HD and Autism are completely different from each other.

I don't think AD/HD and Autism are at all related... I've read a few things by some people saying that AD/HD is on the Autistic Spectrum, which I think is BS. Autism just happens to have some symptoms that *look* like AD/HD. But the origins/causes of AD/HD and Autism are completely different from each other.

They may not have the the same neurological basis but for that matter combined typed ADHD and inattentive ADHD likely do not either.*

* http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1474811

But ADHD like effects in autism spectrum,combined type ADHD and pure inattentive ADHD have very similar manifestations and treatment options.*

*http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToSearch=17201617&ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

They may not have the the same neurological basis but for that matter combined typed ADHD and inattentive ADHD likely do not either.*

* http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1474811

Interesting article. I've been fond of the theory that AD/HD creates problems with the WM for some time now... as it makes sense. And my own experience verifies this. My only criticism of the article is that his construct of the AD/HD Combined Type doesn't seem Combined at all, but rather just a purely Hyperactive type w/o Inattention. Something more like Hyperkinesia than any sort of actual AD/HD. Which, yeah, in this case I would absolutely agree there is a different neurological basis between lone Hyperkinesia and ADD. I suspect that true Combined AD/HD and Inattentive ADD have largely similar neurological origins though, with some slight alterations in how they specifically manifest in the brain.

But ADHD like effects in autism spectrum,combined type ADHD and pure inattentive ADHD have very similar manifestations and treatment options.

Amphetamine Psychosis and Schizophrenia have very similar manifestations and treatment options as well. But their true causes are obviously quite distinct from each other.

Amphetamine Psychosis and Schizophrenia have very similar manifestations and treatment options as well. But their true causes are obviously quite distinct from each other.

Alot of people on the autism spectrum do take stimulants for inattention and/or hyperactivity though with good results. So from a practical standpoint it is for more similar than amphetamine psychosis is to schizophrenia. Since in theory avoidance of stimulants and time alone will treat amphetamine psychosis. Where as autism spectrum, ADD/ADHD, and schizophrenia are life long conditions.

Alot of people on the autism spectrum do take stimulants for inattention and/or hyperactivity though with good results. So from a practical standpoint it is for more similar than amphetamine psychosis is to schizophrenia. Since in theory avoidance of stimulants and time alone will treat amphetamine psychosis. Where as autism spectrum, ADD/ADHD, and schizophrenia are life long conditions.

Yeah, I'm not debating that people with Autism-induced hyperactivity/inattention don't benefit from stimulants. This does seem to be true.

I'm not sure what you are arguing from a 'practical standpoint' makes AD/HD and ASD hyperactivity/inattentiveness more alike than my example of schizophrenia and amphetamine psychosis, so I will cover both possibilities. If you assert that it's simply because the former two conditions both respond well to stimulants... then that doesn't prove an increased similarity at all relative to the latter two conditions, as both of those respond well to the same treatments too: They are often treated with antipsychotics. If you are arguing that the former two conditions are more similar to each other simply by virtue of the fact that they are both life-long conditions... this also does not make them more similar per say. They simply happen to share the characteristic that they are life-long... in the same way that hemophilia or lactose intolerance is life-long. Just because two conditions are life-long, obviously doesn't mean they are necessarily related to each other nor makes them more intrinsically alike to each other.

Anyway, I wasn't trying to get in a debate with you. My only point was that the causal origins of AD/HD and ASD-related inattentiveness/hyperactivity are completely different from each other. They are two different things altogether and not a part of the same spectrum. Thus I doubt you will see many AD/HD individuals with any co-morbid ASD stuff going on like Space was wondering.

. Thus I doubt you will see many AD/HD individuals with any co-morbid ASD stuff going on like Space was wondering.

Thats true assuming persons have a state of the art diagnosis from the get go(such as genetic tests such as 7-repeat allele polymorphism of the DRD4 gene common in ADD but not in ASD for example, various experimental physical brain mapping methods EEG , best doctors, etc) and have been diagnosed ADHD.

But since ASD is perhaps 1/150 occurrence and ADHD is perhaps as high as 4/100 that leaves the potential for a high percent of "wrongly" diagnosed perople here perhaps as great as 10-20% of the people on this site could infact be on the autism spectrum.

Many aspies are first misdiagnosed with ADHD. Indeed, many ADDers either have, or feel that they have some autistic traits. I've read that as many as 20% of diagnosed ADDers are thought to have asperger's syndrome instead of ADHD. AS and ADHD canbe hard to distinguish. Particularly in mild cases.

Me :D

# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =5.75
SI=2.25
L=4.25
POC=7.5
IR=4.25
RP=1.25
S=3.25
M=3.25

I suppose this makes me "normal" for ADD

When we kill some thing we generally lock it or remove it, however we some times move things to other areas in an effort to keep the site organized. . . I know ADDers and organization is an oxymoron but it is done to make specific information quicker to find. Few people have the attention span to sort though mounds of information in search of one especially not around here.
Likewise, I am sure that those of us who are in charge of moderating areas containing certain forms of information appreciate it when some other kind moderator moves it to where it belongs, so that they do not have to waste valuable time hunting through this whole place to keep track of something that should have been where they could keep track of it in the first place. :)

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# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =7
SI=6.5
L=5.5
POC=7.25
IR=7.25
RP=6.5
S=2
M=3.5

The deal about imaging is fascinating. Never really thought about it til now, but I definately have a malfunction in that area. It always bothered me that I could not picture loved-ones faces with any kind of clarity. With the tree - I can see a fairly detailed closeup of bark, a fairly detailed closeup of a leaf - but cannot really picture a tree. I was once praised as a pretty fair artist - but I always found it extremely frustrating and confusing because I cannot form an image in my head or imagine something that I wanted to create. All of my work was stream-of-consciousness - - the inspiration had to occur AS I was creating. Does anyone have more info about these imaging difficulties?


I use mostly pictures but like the tree image I not only could picture the tree I could feel it, hear the leaves rustling in the wind. I read and remember the same way I use all my sense when I remember not just one or two. I not only can use visual but I have excellent auditory. I can play any song I have heard once or twice in my head just like I heard it. . .
Astounding - I never realized one could do this!

My daughter Lizz is AS. When I take photos for her, I take close ups of the textures because she can then maybe get an idea of how it feels, which is more important to her than how it looks. Her favorite photo I took is of an Aligator bark Juniper ( or some such name) because the bark is so clearly defined, when we see a tree with similar texture she almost jumps out of her skin with excitement. I try to take photos in the way Lizz sees the world, in shapes, lines, colors, not as whole objects per se.

She has a memory like an elephant. When people off handedly says something like "Well maybe next weekend we will come visit you" I have to interject and tell them that if they say something like that, she will remember it word for word and be dissapointed if they don't come. Its better to be succinct with her, date and time. She mimics commercials verbatem,she can immitate voices...yet she has trouble with facial cues, or vocal cues when in conversation with someone. She wants so badly to understand humor and why things are funy, but just cant quite 'get it'. She once heard someone call someone a dumb bunny thought it was funny, used the 'formula' to make the joke of calling me a rabid squirrel one day (which was funny in itself but not for the reasons she thought it would be).Schedule changes or routine changes throw her for a loop.

Now, from what I understood there are a few 'trines' in different disorders, that AS is often co morbid with OCD and ADHD...which is evident in Lizz (she has intrusive thoughts that stick until she is crying from frustration, such as being compelled to count flying boxes she sees in the dark, the need to organize and re organize my shopping cart, she hoards and saves things even going to lengths to hide them as theyve been thrown out by me). She hits the ground running, and doesn't stop talking for longer than a few minutes at a time, hyper focusing on video games and more recently Animes and Mangas. Once she gets into the local mental health organization I suspect she will get the dx of ADHD and OCD added to the AS.

I have to look this up as its been a few years since 'hearing' this info on co morbidity.

Its been very interesting to me to hear others discuss how they perceive the world as it helps me understand even more and in a real and personal way how Lizz may see things. Then I am better able to communicate with her and continue to 'teach' her how to get along in the world. Thank you every ne for your openess and sharing.

I did this and found that I was most impaired in the Sensory Integration component but I expected that since I have Sensory Integration Dysfunction!

Selena:)

Here is an experimental test to measure various aspects of autism spectrum.
Oh mods before you kill this by moving it to the autism form I think the numbers from this might be used to quantify some aspects of ADHD. So it would be nice to see alot people with ADHD take it. I think you might should mentions if your taking meds to(I'm not :( ).

http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp2.php

http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp_gif2.php?rbi=8.25&si=8&lg=5&poc=7&ir=4&rp=7&s=5&m=4.75


# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement


rbi 8.25
si 8
lg 5
poc 7
ir 4
rp 7
s 5
m 4.75

http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp_gif2.php?rbi=4.25&si=6&lg=4.75&poc=7.5&ir=7.25&rp=5.5&s=5.25&m=4.75
# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement
RBI =4.25
SI=6
L=4.75
POC=7.5
IR=7.25
RP=5.5
S=5.25
M=4.75


Interesting. The other test I did showed:

118/200 Aspie
93/200 Neurotypical

But I also have pretty bad anxiety so I think a lot of the questions may have been hitting on that for me....

No it was just the name of the test is a bit deceptive and since there is an autism sub forum here the knee jerk reaction of some mods would be to move it. (I'm a moderator on an aspergers forum site :) ).

Oh its estimated 75% of the people on the autism spectrum have comorbid ADD/ADHD. So I expect people with ADHD to score similar to those on the autism spectrum on this test.

I see the reasoning in wanting to see how folks with ADHD scored on this test, as many of these neurological disorders are cormorbid.

I found the test incredible difficult and confusing as the focus of the questions kept changing from "Are you this way? to "Are you not this way?"

http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp_gif2.php?rbi=4&si=6&lg=5.25&poc=7&ir=3.5&rp=4.75&s=3&m=0

# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =4
SI=6
L=5.25
POC=7
IR=3.5
RP=4.75
S=3
M=0

http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp_gif2.php?rbi=1.25&si=3&lg=1.75&poc=9&ir=8&rp=6.5&s=5&m=3.75

# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =1.25
SI=3
L=1.75
POC=9
IR=8
RP=6.5
S=5
M=3.75

what surprises me is not the POC and IR .. was to be expected, but the RP (reasoning and problem solving) .. as I find it a delight to solve problems like in my job, computer programming, and I am also quite good at it. But then again, only at areas that I really like .. i.e. can hyperfocus on.

Didn't anybody else have trouble with the way the questions keep changing focus? :(

Didn't anybody else have trouble with the way the questions keep changing focus? :(

yup! I was wondering all the time why they did that when I was answering it .. maybe because otherwise it would be to easy to keep checking the same answer, so in order to make people stay focused they thought like "hey, let's throw in some negative questions to keep 'm on track" ?

And I would get a lot of bizarre, completely non-sequitur visual associations in my mind to words, and whenever I heard them, this mental image would also flash across my mind. Like... "nerd" was a pig on a teeter totter. "Brat" was a neon plastic necklace. "Hour" was an evergreen bush. "Second" (as in unit of time) was a jumping bushel of haystalks with legs. Bizarre stuff.
Bit of an old post, I know, but this sounds like synesthesia :)

Oh, and while I'm at it, I may as well post my score ;)


http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp_gif2.php?rbi=4&si=6.5&lg=3.5&poc=6&ir=5.25&rp=5.25&s=4.25&m=3.75

# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement

RBI =4
SI=6.5
L=3.5
POC=6
IR=5.25
RP=5.25
S=4.25
M=3.75

I know there's something wrong, but I don't think it's Aspergers.

Myabe it's all to do with the tic disorder.

I am taking meds 40mg of strattera



http://www.pttools.co.uk/asc/asc_wp_gif2.php?rbi=6.25&si=6.75&lg=7.75&poc=7.25&ir=6.5&rp=6.25&s=6.25&m=1.5



# Repetitive or restricted Behaviours and Interests (RBI) - Stereotyped, repetitive behaviours and interests
# Social Impairment (SI) - Social understanding
# Language problems (L) - Speech, words and sentences
# Planning, Organization and Concentration problems (POC) - Cognitive skills related to being able to plan, organise and stay focused
# Imaging and Recall problems (IR) - Visualisation, imagination and remembering past events
# Reasoning and Problem solving problems (RP) - Cognitive skills related to rational deduction and working things out
# Sensory problems (S) - Impact of senses
# Motor problems (M) - Control of own movement
RBI =6.25
SI=6.75
L=7.75
POC=7.25
IR=6.5
RP=6.25
S=6.25
M=1.5