View Full Version : anyone ever try bzp?


prurigro
07-18-07, 03:03 AM
bzp is a stimulant drug working similarly to amphetamine- its totally legal in most countries and is apparently rather unaddictive... I get meds prescribed so I spose its not very important to me, but I was curious anyway if anyones ever tried it as a treatment to ADD (or just tried it in the first place) or know of any literature on studies or mechanisms (most of what I could find just show qualitative information on NT minds)

thanks for satisfying my curiosity :)

btw heres a quote from wikipedia "The effects of BZP are largely similar to amphetamines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine), with one study finding that former amphetamine addicts were unable to distinguish between dextroamphetamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextroamphetamine) and BZP administered intravenously"

PeterMac
07-18-07, 04:22 AM
I've tried it, and use it occasionally. It can be fairly effective for increasing my concentration, but it doesn't seem to work well when taken continuously; only at a rate of about one dose per week. It also takes 2-4 hours to start working, so it's not terribly convenient, and I need a fairly high dose to get any effect. I don't get any euphoria from it; just a heightened ability to focus, and have no compulsion to take it. Most of the time I don't even remember I have it. The best use I found for it was during the first couple of weeks on Stratterra; when the Stratterra was making me extremely tired, a dose of BZP would completely counter the fatigue for a few hours, once it kicked in.

It's currently legal here.

theta
07-27-07, 01:39 PM
It has alot of SNS effects. You build rapid tolerance to the CNS effects but the SNS effects never go away. Its illegal in the US but for the reason I stated it has a low abuse potential. But its not going to be an effective long term stimulant in the treatment of any condition.

PeterMac
07-27-07, 02:12 PM
Some interesting info on the decision to ban it in the US, Australia and Japan:

The drug was classified as a Schedule I controlled substance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_substance) in the United States in 2002,<sup id="_ref-DEA-2006_1" class="reference">[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-DEA-2006)</sup> following a report by the DEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_Enforcement_Administration) which incorrectly stated that BZP was 10 to 20 times more potent than amphetamine, <sup id="_ref-14" class="reference">[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-14)</sup> when in fact BZP is ten times less potent than dexamphetamine.<sup id="_ref-15" class="reference">[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-15)</sup> The DEA subsequently admitted this mistake, but nevertheless retained the Schedule 1 classification. BZP is banned in all Australian states. Victoria, the last state in which it was legal, changed its classification on September 1 2006.<sup id="_ref-16" class="reference">[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-16)</sup> This is the date BZP and piperazine analogs become illegal in the federal schedules which are now enacted by all Australian states and territories. BZP is also a banned substance in Japan, along with TFMPP. Both Australia and Japan admit that their scheduling decisions were made primarily in response to the Schedule 1 classification given to BZP in the USA, although some instances of BZP use had been reported by law enforcement authorities in both countries. BZP is also banned in Denmark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark) and Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden).<sup id="_ref-Gee-2007_2" class="reference">[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-Gee-2007)Evidence, if ever it was needed, that facts play no part in the War on Drugs.
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