prurigro
07-18-07, 03:03 AM
bzp is a stimulant drug working similarly to amphetamine- its totally legal in most countries and is apparently rather unaddictive... I get meds prescribed so I spose its not very important to me, but I was curious anyway if anyones ever tried it as a treatment to ADD (or just tried it in the first place) or know of any literature on studies or mechanisms (most of what I could find just show qualitative information on NT minds)
thanks for satisfying my curiosity :)
btw heres a quote from wikipedia "The effects of BZP are largely similar to amphetamines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphetamine), with one study finding that former amphetamine addicts were unable to distinguish between dextroamphetamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dextroamphetamine) and BZP administered intravenously"
PeterMac
07-18-07, 04:22 AM
I've tried it, and use it occasionally. It can be fairly effective for increasing my concentration, but it doesn't seem to work well when taken continuously; only at a rate of about one dose per week. It also takes 2-4 hours to start working, so it's not terribly convenient, and I need a fairly high dose to get any effect. I don't get any euphoria from it; just a heightened ability to focus, and have no compulsion to take it. Most of the time I don't even remember I have it. The best use I found for it was during the first couple of weeks on Stratterra; when the Stratterra was making me extremely tired, a dose of BZP would completely counter the fatigue for a few hours, once it kicked in.
It's currently legal here.
It has alot of SNS effects. You build rapid tolerance to the CNS effects but the SNS effects never go away. Its illegal in the US but for the reason I stated it has a low abuse potential. But its not going to be an effective long term stimulant in the treatment of any condition.
PeterMac
07-27-07, 02:12 PM
Some interesting info on the decision to ban it in the US, Australia and Japan:
The drug was classified as a Schedule I controlled substance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_substance) in the United States in 2002,<sup id="_ref-DEA-2006_1" class="reference">[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-DEA-2006)</sup> following a report by the DEA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_Enforcement_Administration) which incorrectly stated that BZP was 10 to 20 times more potent than amphetamine, <sup id="_ref-14" class="reference">[27] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-14)</sup> when in fact BZP is ten times less potent than dexamphetamine.<sup id="_ref-15" class="reference">[28] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-15)</sup> The DEA subsequently admitted this mistake, but nevertheless retained the Schedule 1 classification. BZP is banned in all Australian states. Victoria, the last state in which it was legal, changed its classification on September 1 2006.<sup id="_ref-16" class="reference">[29] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-16)</sup> This is the date BZP and piperazine analogs become illegal in the federal schedules which are now enacted by all Australian states and territories. BZP is also a banned substance in Japan, along with TFMPP. Both Australia and Japan admit that their scheduling decisions were made primarily in response to the Schedule 1 classification given to BZP in the USA, although some instances of BZP use had been reported by law enforcement authorities in both countries. BZP is also banned in Denmark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark) and Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden).<sup id="_ref-Gee-2007_2" class="reference">[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzylpiperazine#_note-Gee-2007)Evidence, if ever it was needed, that facts play no part in the War on Drugs.
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