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Crazy~Feet
09-12-07, 04:34 PM
I promised over in Sponge's "Poop" thread...:eyebrow: that looks so funny now that I typed it...that I would address a potentially triggering event that happened yesterday. Before anybody gets all worried about my typical response to severe stress, which has generally been to crank it up into high gear and take off for the sky, I have amazing news!


The Good

I'm stable.

Astonishing, isn't it? Who gets the props for this incredible turn of events? Doc W? Miss Anna, my therapist? Or could it be...me? :eek: Maybe a combination of all three, because I could not claim that I have had any help or support from anyone in real life :mad: The members of the Cycling Team are all I've got, and you get props too, I tend to think.


The Bad

I am kind of weirded out by this, actually. I have grown used to that mushroom cloud carrying me away at times like this. It sounds stupid, I know, but that's all I have known. Logic dictates that stability has got to be good news, right? Of course it means that I have to deal with the situation in a state that I am not used to, that feels strange to me, and I'm doing it without a map to follow. Its all on me, too. No support here, not a bit, and when this went down yesterday, the old man could not so much as lift his a** out of bed and do what, IMO, men ought to do. Not to apply sexist attitudes to the situation, but there are times that the appearance of the Daddy is the better choice than good old Mom.


The Ugly

Yesterday morning at the bus stop, Space was the victim of a hate crime. She has been taunted, ridiculed and generally messed with since school began last month, and yesterday it progressed to outright violence. She was attacked and beaten on by a BOY...for no other reason than that she is the only child of her racial profile at the bus stop.


Now I don't know about all of you, but in my day? Boys that beat on girls were called sissies. Not so in this case it seems. Apparently its perfectly OK to beat on anybody who does not look like you, because last year on the bus, another boy who was two years older than her punched her in the nose, because the kids had been tossing around a paper ball that happened to hit him. Space was not the one who threw the ball...but she was close, and she didn't match, so he exploded on her. I know this is the reason he chose her, because he used a racial slur when he hit her. That boy was suspended for that act...but I doubt that made Space feel any more secure about who she is.



But wait! There's more! Two years ago, we lived in a different part of the county and Space attended a school in which she was one of only three students in the entire school who matched her racial profile, and she was assaulted then, too, by a rather...ahem...large girl in her class. As she bent over the fountain to get a drink of water, this girl came up behind her, smashed her head against the tile wall, and while Space was dazed from the blow, threw her to the floor and began kicking her. That was a really rough one to get action over too.


I called the schoolhouse to complain and demand that this girl be dealt with. Her classroom teacher called me back (it just so happens this teacher was one of only six teachers who happened to look like Space and me) and she was as appalled as I was, as she admitted that this girl had attacked several other children previously. When the school would call her parents in for a conference about the child, they consistantly refused to come in. I had to have the teacher pass along a message to them from me:


"I am not from the South, I am a Yankee. Where I come from, we prosecute for this type of thing. So unless you want me to send the laws over to your house with a nice, shiny set of silver handcuffs for your daughter? Get into that schoolhouse and take whatever they give you."


Funny thing is, they went to the school that time. :rolleyes: The girl was suspended and apologized to Space later, claiming that she really didn't know why she did that to her. Space is a truly amazing person, and she forgave the girl.


There is a postscript to that story that I'd like to share...I know I am being Miss Blabberfingers again, but it feels really good to finally get all this out of my head. Last summer, after we had moved and Space no longer attended that school, a little girl approached her in the department store we were shopping at. Space had grown quite a bit by then, and this child was smaller than she was. They both smiled and said hi and all that normal kid stuff. It seemed a little strange when I looked up and saw her mother, standing at the doorway with her hand on it and a look of distress on her face. The girl said goodbye to Space and the mother literally pulled the child out the door and practically dragged her across the parking lot. That woman was really hauling a**! That was when Space said "Momma, that's _________ from B________ Elementary School". In other words that same girl that had attacked her. That was when I realized that woman was in a big hurry to get away from me. HAH! Good for her, too.



Back to yesterday's event. I kept Space home and called the schoolhouse to explain exactly why she would not be there. I was promised a call-back about it. The call came in later that evening, but while Space was on the phone with the officer...yes they have police staff at the school, which ought to tell y'all something about the atmosphere Space lives in and attends school in...the phone went dead on the other end. I have been trying to call all day and getting a busy signal. I finally called the school district office, who told me that the school phone system at the middle school was malfunctioning, but assured me that they would reach somebody by cell phone to call me back and have this dealt with.



So I am waiting. I am upset beyond all reason. I have never had to deal with such senseless cruelty or any situation remotely resembling this, and the scariest part of all is that, according to the old man, who grew up here...this is perfectly normal for this part of the country....WTF?! You gotta be kidding me!! So I am essentially in a position of powerlessness. This type of thing "just happens" and children "learn to deal with it". Its positively sickening to me. I can do very little to protect or defend my child, other than wait for the next incident and try to follow through so that there will be consequences. :soapbox:


Some of you may know Space, and I have not met a person who does not like my child. For those of you who don't know her, she is brilliant, talented, witty and loving, and she gives everybody she meets the same respect and kindness she would like to receive in return. She has friends of all ages, all genders, all ethnicities. She makes a point of including a mildly retarded boy at her school, who has been mainstreamed into the school system, and she has more than once stopped other children from mocking him. Space does not make value judgements based on anything other than the way a person might treat her, and even then, she is forgiving of poor behavior. Everybody gets a second chance with Space.


She just came in from the bus. She seems OK. I hope that she is, but I wonder how long it will be until this stuff just gets to her. One day, her bipolar will switch over from the pediatric form, with all its ultra-rapid cycling and a maximum amount of mania. Her first serious depression is going to hit her like a ton of bricks...and then what?


I fear that day. I dread it. And once again, I can do nothing. I can be there for her, I can get her to Doc W and keep track of her moods. She's already realized the difference Lamictal has made in her life and expresses relief that she is no longer gripped by her mood swings. I do not have to watch over her to make sure she complies with her treatment...she does that willingly all on her own. SHE is the one who brings the pill bottles to me every night and we take that Lamictal together before she goes to bed.


I hope that's enough. I don't know what the future holds for us, but I sure do hope that if something else happens or changes, I can be there in time to prevent...I cannot say. I do not know!



I just hope that whatever I can do is enough.

Spongedaddy
09-12-07, 04:45 PM
Wow. That is a lot to deal with.

I really don't know what to say other than I will send all the positive energy I can your way. The best thing you can do for Space is exactly what you are doing: accepting her for who she is and giving her the love and support she needs. You are also showing her how to live with what she's got going on. We can't predict the future and if you try you will throw yourself into the burning realm. Maybe Space never has to reach the rings of fire we have. Maybe the love and acceptance you have given her will help carry her through.

As for what you can do from here...well that's a decision only you and yours can make. We will be here for you and you know you have our support no matter what.

busyhermit
09-12-07, 07:20 PM
Oh my, CF - so sorry to hear about this. Hope you're still doing OK.

- - got to make dinner as hubby just arrived home - will try to get back here later.

(Hugs)

TeLL
09-12-07, 08:42 PM
a great big HUG for you!!!!!!!!!!!! some parts of the world develop industrially MUCH faster than they develop intelecually/emotionally. you're dealing with people whos capacity to deal with change (someone different from them) is just about the same as a cro magnon. Space is truly a great person (emotionally and with great heart) to live with such incredible injustice.
the way the authorities (school/police) are reacting is far from acceptable! its insulting to see people who are paid by you and me to tell you that its okay that racial violence happens in school, not only does it empower the weak minded, but it reinforces the notion to others around who would otherwise be just as open to Space as anyone else.
In all honesty, if it would be possible to move to a place that shows tolerance, I'd reccomend it. hate in a general population cant change in a lifetime, and a person as special as her should not have an added burden of prejudice. But life usually works the way it does and leaving isn't always a good option. I hope you get things straightened out, and I'll think about you and her, and hope for the best

At Heart
09-12-07, 09:04 PM
Hello C~F,

I hate to say this, but I had to deal with this myself, with my daughter. While the racial profile at her old school was not as drastic as you are describing, my daughters class was essentially half caucasian and the other was a mixed bag of Hispanic, Asian, and Black. The older, and bigger girls would pick on my daughter, steal her lunch money, or school supplies, and she would be afraid to tell anyone, even me. It came to a head when she saw some writing on the wall in the bathroom that said she was a biotch, and other not so nice things. This all happened when she was in 4th grade and in 5th grade. Thank goodness the school had some wonderful teachers who all were very protective of my daughter, they protected her once they understood what was going on. The girls were suspended that did this (the teachers set up a "sting" and caught the girls). My daughter was extremely sensitive, and this was very hard for her. I spent a lot of time at that school, becoming involved in the PTA, parent partner programs, and so on, and it was the best thing I could do because I got to know many of the teachers and ancillary staff who then were watching out for my daughter.

As for the parents of the girls that did this to my daughter, I discovered that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, that they are bullies and ignorant too. I am very glad we are no longer in that school district.

Last year when a kid started picking on my daughter about her scoliosis brace, the bus driver heard him and kicked him off for a week. We have never had any trouble since. Of course it doesn't hurt that my daughter is now getting close to 6 feet tall, and athletic, so I don't think that too many kids will mess with her (even though she is a softy). At the age of 13 she is very wise and also forgiving. She has been through a lot in her life, as I am sure Space has been. Kids are remarkably resilliant. I think I was more traumatized than she was, and I am so glad that my daughter was able to talk with me about it.

I hope that Space is able to talk with you about this, and that you can let her know that the whole world is not like this. I also hope that she has lots of friends for support at school, because I think that her peers are the ones who will help her most to put this behind her (unfortunately parents have a hard time forgiving those who hurt their children, so I am not so sure they can learn forgiveness from us in these circumstances).

I wish you patience and peace.

At Heart

Swede63
09-12-07, 10:58 PM
(((HUGS))) C~F and to Space too. I can't understand such cruelty. That person must be a really miserable and most likely unhappy child to inflict
that kind of pain. I hope he was at least suspended or made to take some responsibility for this.

Thinking of you,
Charl

meadd823
09-13-07, 02:10 AM
For the record no this kind of behavior is not indicative of the southern part of the US just certain parts of it.

I am sorry this happened to you . . . . I wouldn't put up with it. I would move or home school or some thing different. I can not see this getting better as the children age. Space will only tolerate so much of this kind of thing so many times before it gets to her one way or the other.


There are times to fight for change then there are time to say **** it I am outta here.


If Space is already on medications and her moods are stabilized she may be lucky and never have to experience the severity of moods swings you had to.

Spongedaddy
09-13-07, 05:59 AM
How are you today CF?

Crazy~Feet
09-13-07, 06:24 AM
I didn't sleep very well :( but I did remain stable. Very weird sensation. Am I stressed or not? :confused:

Spongedaddy
09-13-07, 06:32 AM
I didn't sleep very well :( but I did remain stable. Very weird sensation. Am I stressed or not? :confused:Ya know it's funny, I have had moments like what you just described in that post. Here's my take: You are dealing and the part of your mind that needs the pain (and I believe our BiP feeds on the pain in a way) and craziness doesn't want to accept that/ So if you keep asking yourself am I stressed enough eventually you will be. In my situations, eventualy I asked so often that I talked myself into being upset and then the floodgates opened. Is it possible to simply accept what you are feeling right now?

Crazy~Feet
09-13-07, 06:38 AM
That's the odd thing about it Sponge. I don't feel extremely stressed at all. Worried, yes.

Update: the school officer did interview Space, and the little gang and the bus stop has backed waaaaay off. Let's hope this lasts!

busyhermit
09-13-07, 07:29 AM
That's good news C~F...Hope things stay OK (for both of you).

You know, I was thinking that there have been times for me also, when I have surprised myself with ability to cope. If it's something huge - like when my husband was first diagnosed with heart disease and had his first cardiac catheter (he's had a few now, but it doesn't get a lot easier). Anyways, that first time we learned that he'd come to within inches of losing his life and then had to have this surgery - and it was terrifying. I am never the strong, take-charge type - but when you mess with my family - I don't know - I found a strength to hold it together that I didn't know I had. It was as though I found a hidden strength and ability to think and act rationally that I never expected to be there.

Ironic, isn't it? That I can still be blown out of the water by some small day-to-day problem?

Crazy~Feet
09-13-07, 07:35 AM
See, it just goes to show ya...I love this place and I do all I can to be supportive to others, but in the end, I am just a human being. And I am grateful for all the good wishes I have gotten. Thank you all!

Matt S.
09-13-07, 08:55 AM
Try to sleep, CF, Bipolar II can turn into Bipolar I (according to research). I just know that personally for me, if I don't sleep I wind up starting to get Manic, and I have to admit that at times I do that deliberately, but I get the Mixed State instead and either way no matter how good or justified (in the case of Mixed State rage) it feels it will hurt you in the long run. Apparently Mania and Hypomania can destroy grey matter in the brain, you might want to google that because I read it online somewhere.

Matt S.
09-13-07, 08:57 AM
Not to be a nag, but I am attempting to somehow be empathetic which I suck at although I try hard to figure it out.

Crazy~Feet
09-13-07, 09:02 AM
Not to be a nag, but I am attempting to somehow be empathetic which I suck at although I try hard to figure it out.Matt? You are doing fine You and I have come a long, long way, haven't we? :) Besides, you are correct, lack of sleep is not inclined to trigger a "white" hypomania at all..a "black" or a mixed state is likely.

I got plenty of Abilify ;) and that works great if I start to go to the moon.

Matt S.
09-13-07, 05:07 PM
that's good I hate to see people do the things that I did to themselves, my life is now, the aftermath of the manic episodes (i.e. moving to another area, looking for a new job, a homeless shelter as a home, SSI income etc.). It really does suck I might add, but I will find a clever solution to my problem in say a few weeks and I will look back and laugh. Just don't let it consume you

Crazy~Feet
09-13-07, 05:23 PM
Ya know what Matt? For someone diagnosed with Antisocial Personality Disorder, you seem to have become pretty social with me :) Will you check in from time to time, please?

It makes me nervous when my BPI members vanish and I know I don't have to explain why that is either. When you cobble together your clever plan? I'd love it if you told us what your next move would be.

Hey, you said "overmedicated" right? What all are they pumping into you? You doing The Shuffle yet?

justhope
09-13-07, 07:33 PM
CF...I think you have done amazingly well. And I told you Space..has so many advantages we all didn't. She has seen the way good meds and support has changed mom. She has seen the difference in herself. Which is huge. And again like before, she is not afraid to come here and talk. She has so many things we didn't. She will be okay. And like Tam's said, with her being regulated out on meds...she might never , ever feel the extremes of depression like us. But if she does, all the education, talking, and support she has at home and here. She will make it just like we have. ;)

I am glad you were able to talk about it. I hope you do feel better. I am also happy to see that you are feeling balanced.
It is weird isn't it? Knowing you should be extreme and realizing you are not? And what DO you DO with that YOU? I understand what you are saying. I often wander about the house going hmmmm this is an interesting state of mind. I think it's somewhere near ummmm NORMAL? :eyebrow:


Matt,,,,
You better keep in touch. We do miss you when you are gone. And like KZ said...when one of us BPII"s are out for more than a few days ...we get worried, when you are gone for a month..we are chewing nails? We might all be figures "in words" here...to the outside world...but I believe we are very close because we understand. And therefore when members of the fam are gone...they really are missed. I know it's hard to stay in touch sometimes...but a simple one liner will do....thanks for popping in.

Thanks for the updates on Jesse Kz...I was wondering. Now I feel better....Jeanie is okay the guys are okay.... ~ sigh~ I am okay? Wow..that's nice...

Hope

Scattered
09-13-07, 07:56 PM
Hey Crazyfeet -- I'm so sorry. I'm originally from the south and unfortunately prejudice is more common there, but I've never personally seen it as bad as you're describing. I was lucky -- I taught in a private school in the inner city and the kids seemed to be color blind -- it's was pretty beautiful. It's awful -- when someone hurts your kids, they hurt the apple of your eye. She sounds like a really sweet kid and to repeatedly have to deal with garbage like that is really wrong. I'm glad she's got you in her corner. Take gentle care of yourself as hard as it is to do at times like this -- if you can get some exercise, a massage, connect with friends, what ever helps you relax and let go of some of the intensity is good. Much easier said than done, I know.

Hugs to you (if okay)

HighFunctioning
09-13-07, 08:08 PM
This is quite terrible. No one should have to deal with this in a context that one is required by law to be a part of until a certain age. It is quite surprising to see a boy beating on a girl in this manner. It is good that the school did at least punish the boy. I do have to question where such rationality comes from to begin with, whether it is learned from parents, or that people have an intrinsic predisposition toward xenophobia, or (most likely) both.

Perhaps these police need to be patrolling the bus stops too?

It's hard to actually determine the solution to such a problem, as the problem is quite complicated. We can make several guesses, and some may be close, while others won't. Do suspensions work? Probably not, as the child generally has to not a.) go to school or b.) do any work. Perhaps sending the child to a school of a drastically different racial profile would work? We don't know until we try.

It's hard to tell how events like this will impact those afflicted in the future. Perhaps it will be negative, but then again, it could be positive... Perhaps some will take a downward trend....

What if Space isn't really destine to be a certified public accountant? What if she turns out to be like this:

<img src="http://www.worldofwallpapers.nuche.org/content/personalities/weird/800/muscle-woman-bodybuilder.jpg"/>

Imagine the possibilities... ;)

ozchris
09-13-07, 09:34 PM
ahh that sucks CF. Poor lil space :( It sounds like she's dealing with it really well, I just hope it doesn't continue. Any chance of moving somewhere else? I know it's a huge thing to move and I'm not even sure if space would want to but just thought I'd ask.

At Heart
09-13-07, 09:48 PM
Hey CF,

I just wanted to let you (and Space) know that I was thinking about you today. I hope things are getting better, and that she can put this behind her.

Take care,

At Heart

Matt S.
09-14-07, 10:01 AM
My last manic fit was bizarre, I was a bit more than just psychotic I think CF and justhope, thanks for the concern I appreciate it, and the Antisocial dx is a history of being on Probation type of thing. What is it called when you are so manic that you just pace and start repeating everything someone else says, Catatonic? I don't know I have just learned my lesson and the Risperdal and Geodon are going out the window once I see this new doctor I have, I did my first interview with her yesterday and she thinks I have an odd type of Bipolar disorder, the going from Manic to Mixed as opposed to depressed and the high dose of dexedrine having a therapeutic effect on mania is odd to her too. The Risperdal Consta is degrading (a shot in the butt) and I don't understand the need for it, Geodon at 20 mg makes no sense either but I like Seroquel (like most ex-pothead seem to) and plan to keep that in the regimen. I don't really get the Provigil part either I don't notice it making any difference, so my med list will be updated soon, I am looking into replacing Provigil with Daytrana (two stims together might as well be two that work) because Ritalin LA or not would be just more annoying pills to take. My shuffle was a hospital induced thing, being manic for half of my stay and pressured-speeching the staff to death was part of the intro to the shuffle.

Spongedaddy
09-14-07, 10:04 AM
Hey CF how are you guys doing today?

Crazy~Feet
09-14-07, 04:07 PM
My last manic fit was bizarre, I was a bit more than just psychotic I think
Are you referring to the one that you posted here during, or a later one? As for the one you posted during, well...let's just say it was way over the top, shall we? We can leave it at that. ;)

CF and justhope, thanks for the concern I appreciate it,
Things have changed, and I believe changed for the better, since some of us rolled into Co-Ex and dubbed our little group of Bipolars "The Cycling Team". We really stick together! What happens to one of us, concerns all of us, and naturally that includes you too. Its not just lip service. We follow each other's progress and really care about each other's lives. :)

And the Antisocial dx is a history of being on Probation type of thing. Well OK then, I was just gonna say that you didn't really strike me as antisocial anyway. ;)

What is it called when you are so manic that you just pace and start repeating everything someone else says, Catatonic?
I am not sure what you call that state, other than severely agitated. I do know that catatonia is a period of time when the patient is unresponsive to stimuli and does not generally speak, or even move.

I don't know I have just learned my lesson and the Risperdal and Geodon are going out the window once I see this new doctor I have, I did my first interview with her yesterday and she thinks I have an odd type of Bipolar disorder, the going from Manic to Mixed as opposed to depressed
Well, actually, some research done by Meadd indicates that men tend to manifest much more mania; and that women have more of the depression type symptoms (lucky us, right?)...the report Meadd gave us can be found HERE (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41876). Maybe you want to have a look at that?

and the high dose of dexedrine having a therapeutic effect on mania is odd to her too.I am sure it would be to many doctors. I have to admit that my dose of dexedrine has a mild effect on anxiety, but it doesn't do anything for mania in my case.

The Risperdal Consta is degrading (a shot in the butt) and I don't understand the need for it, Geodon at 20 mg makes no sense either but I like Seroquel (like most ex-pothead seem to) and plan to keep that in the regimen. I don't really get the Provigil part either I don't notice it making any difference, so my med list will be updated soon, I am looking into replacing Provigil with Daytrana (two stims together might as well be two that work) because Ritalin LA or not would be just more annoying pills to take. My shuffle was a hospital induced thing, being manic for half of my stay and pressured-speeching the staff to death was part of the intro to the shuffle.
Well I do hear that Risperdal Consta is very effective. Naturally that's your decision, though. Are you taking Ritalin LA now or did I read that wrong? If you are, how is it working for you? I never took that, but I did take Metadate, which is similar. Hated the stuff, personally.

The hospital induced case of The Shuffle isn't all that surprising. And I know all about being pressured-speeched to death. My daughter Space was one of those before treatment, and man! My ears would eventually scream for mercy. ;)

So are you gonna let us know what you decide as you go along or what? I'd like you to, and I'm not alone with that, either.

Crazy~Feet
09-14-07, 04:10 PM
Hey CF how are you guys doing today?Pretty good, Sponge, thanks for thinking of us. I got a call from the principal today, who assured that there would be consequences. although she could not tell me the nature of them due to confidentiality.

So we'll see. :)

justhope
09-14-07, 04:21 PM
Good Sponge....thanks for asking...


It's FRIDAY!!!!!!! yipee!!!! :D

mijahe
09-14-07, 05:29 PM
Yesterday morning at the bus stop, Space was the victim of a hate crime. She has been taunted, ridiculed and generally messed with since school began last month, and yesterday it progressed to outright violence. She was attacked and beaten on by a BOY...for no other reason than that she is the only child of her racial profile at the bus stop.
What a bunch of *******s! I hope Space is OK, it sounds as if she's a pretty strong girl. But, as you said, too many episodes of this and it'll affect her more.

VisualImagery
09-15-07, 01:25 AM
This all just makes me sooooo #$%^*&&^%^$#@ with the tolerance school personnel have for bullying----It should never be tolerated one little bit.

Is she ok? are you pressing charges? Suspension? Expulsion-they have to follow state school law and if they dont you can file a major complaint-it is illegal to not follow school code with violence-so go for it.

Tell space I am sooooo sorry and hope she is ok and won't ever be hateful like that-it would make her just like them. After what happened at my school, this makes me so concerned for kids and when it involves someone you know, it is even more upsetting. Ours was racially motivated too-the opposite way-understand?

Give space a hug for me ok?

Matt S.
09-15-07, 09:16 AM
I'm fairly treatment compliant but 3 antipsychotics are a bit absurd, the consta shot is just humiliating and since I have learned my lesson a.k.a. the stranger than average psychosis which according to wikipedia and my doc is a bit in the catatonia spectrum, there's a type that has senseless agitation and echocholia (repeating what people say), not quite as severe as a schizophrenic but still in the spectrum. I can't say for sure that I will be off of the consta shot but the Geodon will be definitely d/c'd as well as the useless provigil. My antisocial diagnosis is in a stage that will soon be ruled out, I actually am developing a conscience as opposed to saying to myself that I can behave as bad as I want because I have bipolar disorder and not having any guilt for my actions (which I did until I was 24). Antisocial PD is the equivalent to a sociopath/psychopath and well I don't quite conform to that standard since I want to change and felt guilt. I hate how it feels, and part of me preferred not to feel guilt at all but I managed to stumble upon it on accident and although it wasn't a part of my personality for 24 years, it is now and I am lucky in a sense because developing a conscience at the age of 24 is clinically rare and not seen very often so that makes me feel better about myself

justhope
09-15-07, 08:34 PM
Ah finally met Jiminy Cricket did you? Old Mr. Conscience. Sometimes I have him and what seems like 20 of his little friends to deal with! :eek:

I am glad you met him. He is sure to make a difference in your life and your road to recovery.
Glad you are starting to feel better.


Take care, Mspen..it is good to see you around again!


Hope :)

Crazy~Feet
09-17-07, 04:02 AM
Just reporting in, I cannot sleep because Space has to go back to school tomorrow. I am sweating her bus ride...:(

Spongedaddy
09-18-07, 07:45 AM
Please let us know how it goes.

mijahe
09-18-07, 08:04 AM
Yep, same here, hope it's all uneventfull.

Matt S.
09-18-07, 09:25 AM
I'm tempted to nag you again but I am more worried about your anxiety, so I won't, just hope for the best. All of your fellow cyclers are.

justhope
09-18-07, 09:59 AM
Nag who Mspen? KZ?

I hope she's finally sleeping.......zzzz....hard times....makes me soooo mad.

Matt S.
09-18-07, 10:38 AM
yeah nag on CF about the possibility of getting hypomanic from lack of sleep

justhope
09-18-07, 11:01 AM
Aha....yes ...I understand that all too well. That is one of my remaining struggles...keeping a regular sleep schedule....when I don't I pay ;)

Matt S.
09-18-07, 01:19 PM
Hey I have periods of going without it sometimes intentionally to induce mania so I am in no position to nag but i am living the aftermath of a recent manic up-and-relocate at the drop of a hat for about a good few months so I am not doing any of that any time soon.

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 07:10 PM
Space has been home from school the last two days with a nasty cold, probably the same one I had there a while back. I am just getting back on...my monitor died and I had to get a new one :mad:. I have to get the baby soon, she went with my MIL so I could do the shopping.

I started just taking the sleeping pills...they work, but I don't like them a bit. They make me too dopey. :(

mijahe
09-18-07, 07:30 PM
Space has been home from school the last two days with a nasty cold, probably the same one I had there a while back.
That's probably a good thing - give her some time for the shock to set in??

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 07:33 PM
That's what I am hoping for. She saw the kid when she took out the trash (he lives 2 doors down from us)...he was biking past, but he turned around and left when she came out.

I sure hope that's good news!

mijahe
09-18-07, 08:01 PM
Yep, if he's trying to actively avoid her, then he must be feeling guilty/remorsefull. Which is good. Hope he remembers that remorse till the day he dies.

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 08:03 PM
Yep, if he's trying to actively avoid her, then he must be feeling guilty/remorsefull. Which is good. Hope he remembers that remorse till the day he dies.That or else he's just been threatened with more severe actions if he approaches her :rolleyes:. Its all good as long as he keeps the h$ll away from her!!

mijahe
09-18-07, 08:03 PM
That or else he's just been threatened with more severe actions if he approaches her :rolleyes:. Its all good as long as he keeps the h$ll away from her!!*******.!!!!!! (Stupid swear filter.)

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 08:06 PM
*******.!!!!!! (Stupid swear filter.)I know, right? If there was no swear filter, I'd have turned the screen blue, if it hadn't been blue already, that is. :mad: That little....______________ (insert expletive here).

mijahe
09-18-07, 08:17 PM
What realy amazes me is why people think they have the right to inflict bodily harm on other people. I bet if it happened to him, he'd feel ripped off. So, why does he do it to others? I don't get it - and I never will.

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 08:30 PM
Well, it would seem that society gets worse and worse. In my day nobody would have dreamed of taking firearms to school, let alone jumping someone at the bus stop! :faint:

Spongedaddy
09-18-07, 08:34 PM
How are you feeling CF?

I hope you guys get over your colds soon and Space can move on past this.

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 08:37 PM
I'm feeling pretty good, actually. table, stable, stable. Tired and little beat-up feeling, but essentially as well as can be expected :) Thanks so much for asking.

mijahe
09-18-07, 09:03 PM
Well, it would seem that society gets worse and worse. In my day nobody would have dreamed of taking firearms to school, let alone jumping someone at the bus stop! :faint:Yep, we used to get hit over the knuckles with a ruler for just getting the wrong answer to a question. (Can you imagine my little ADD brain in that environment?)

Trouble is - there's no respect. Kids don't respect adults. They demand rights, people demand priviledges, and when things go belly up they point the finger of responsibility on to someone else.

Crazy~Feet
09-18-07, 09:48 PM
That's exactly it Mijahe. Can you imagine what our parents would have done if we had gotten in trouble for fighting?? :faint:

This kid probably got a medal or something :rolleyes: people are NOT right anymore!!

mijahe
09-19-07, 02:09 AM
Yeah, they wouldn't have had to do too much, cause we'd be quaking in our boots.