View Full Version : The "thought it/said it" gap.
I was just wondering if this was peculier to my family or if it was maybe an ADD trait.
Sometimes i would swear i told someone somthing and later they will swear blind i didnt.
I do this my dad does this and so do my two ADHD kids.
I used to really beleive it was the other persons faulty memory at work, and not me at all, till it was proven conclusivly that it was me.
Hubby is currently working in Saudi so we chat each day on MSN messenger. Well yesterday i could have sworn i told him about the creative drawing job my son did on the upstairs hallway, even to asking him if we had any of the yellow paint left.
Well today i says "Oh yes i found the paint ok and covered the artwork"
Hubby says "What paint? what artwork?" so i explained what i thought had been said about it.
He says "hang on a mo" and goes on a hunt through his files. He went right the way through the chat we had yesterday and it wasnt in there.
So i had a good think to see if there was anyone else i could have had the conversation with, and there isnt anyone.
So i have 2 theories:
1) My thoughts are as loud as outside stimuli and the process of thinking about asking hubby where the paint was got circomvented by me recalling where the pain was, and then stored incorrectly by my brain. Or
2) I am cracking up and should really be calling for the men in white coats.
If anyone has any experience of this or even thinks i am ready for the nut house i would be greatfull to hear it, Or maybe you have another theory altogether?
Nucking_Futs 01-31-04, 01:29 PM OMG I am so with you. When you make that call send them for me too. lol
Oh, so you think we is both nutty then? lol
Nucking_Futs 01-31-04, 01:53 PM Well I consider it a part of my charm *wink wink
THey do say that only those convinced entirly of their sanity are insane though dont they?
Nucking_Futs 01-31-04, 02:01 PM Well, those around Ted Bundy including himself thought him sane.
FlakeyGirl 01-31-04, 03:43 PM We do that too. With 5 (and counting) ADDers under this roof, there is no end to the communication breakdowns. Either someone says something and no one remembers, or they think they said it and no one knows. Throw in a couple handfuls of mishearing a gallon of misinterpretation and you have a receipe for disaster. I would estimate that we have perfectly successful communication 20% of the time. :rolleyes: If anyone has any ideas on how to raise that level, I for one, would love to hear them.
FG, do you have actual times when you really beleive you said somthing, when you actually didnt.
Cos i would have sworn on anything that we spoke about it, when clearly, provably we didnt.
We get the misshearing misinterpreting and forgotton to say somthing all the time as well though. THings like as soon as son finds the lack of fruit mum goes "Oh yeah i meant to ask such and such to get that as well", we get that all the time.
Its just how do you build an actual (indistinguishable from real) memory about these things? Weird truly weird, shows how badly memory is filed in my case.
FlakeyGirl 01-31-04, 08:13 PM Yes, I believe so. I guess I didn't explain myself well. I truly believe I do say things. I'd swear on a stack of bibles that I did. The problem is that someone else is equally convinced that I didn't. Between their poor memory and mine, well, who is to know for sure?
I got a little voice recorder, thinking that would solve some of the problems. It did not because the things that you think are important enough to record usually aren't and the things you dismiss as trivial, end up being vitally important.
Justolme 01-31-04, 09:11 PM Maybe it's because we "speak our minds" so much that occasionally a thought does enter that get's lost before it has had time to enter our mouths and leave our lips.
Just a thought!
pembroke 01-31-04, 11:07 PM another country heard from here -- i get it all the time - but i told you; NO you didn't.... ah well. glad to know it isn't just me.
Go for the WHITE COATS GUYS as you are the only person who ever does that.
I can proove what Im saying
Just ask My wife
NOT
waywardclam 02-01-04, 01:45 AM A couple notes:
My wife and I do this to each other a lot... it is generally one of two things. Either:
-One of us had the conversation with someone ELSE, and assigned it to the wrong person in memory,
-One of us said the thing in question, but the other one wasn't paying attention (me more often than not :eek: )
-One of us dreamed the conversation and remembers the dream as real (this actually does happen sometimes).
Another possibility -- which I don't think is the case but for the sake of thoroughness -- is Gaslighting... that is, people trying to convince you you are insane by "proving" your thoughts and memories wrong...
Nucking_Futs 02-01-04, 03:41 AM That's it I'm NOT crazy my husband is driving me there lol. I have found that since our computer is alway's booted up I add dates to our shared calendar or will email hubby vital info. And I save them so I have proof, then can sit back point and laugh and say "so you think I'VE lost MY mind huh?" lol
Oh Geez i am soooo releived, i really thought i was cracking up on that one.
See for the first 28 years of my life ir eally thought it was a case of everyone else wasnt listening to me right and i wasnt listening to my kids right either. So for it to be proven that it happens was a bit of a shock.
I think you may have somthing one the "I dreamed it" point Clam.
I have often done that one.
The other iritating thing i do is somehow my subconcious picks up on someone talking to me, and without allerting my concious mind that i need to pay attentions it, sends orders to my mouth to put it "Yup"s and "ok"s in the right places. So the person goes off finly beleiving i listened, when actually i have no clue they were even there.
That's it... the whole world is gaslighting me! I knew it!
(now the only question is why .... I don't think I have a family fortune stashed away someplace...) :confused:
Sorry Krisp, due to not understanding the term "gaslighting" your coment was lost on me.
By the way, if you do find a family fortune stashed away, can i have some.
FlakeyGirl 02-01-04, 05:15 PM It means playing with someone's mind, yanking their chain, shining them on, pulling their leg. etc. in order to make that person think they're nuts.
Ta FG, looks like i should have picked that one up just by the revious coments.
Ah well i often completly miss the obvious, while trying to find a deeper meaning.
citruscat2002 02-02-04, 06:29 AM ...Winnie the Pooh.
Happens to me constantly. The worst scenarios involve me leaving out critical information. Not good. And I think it's for all the reasons stated. Occasionaly it ain't me that screwed up, but alas, no one believes me. :confused:
citruscat2002 02-02-04, 07:21 AM ...Winnie the Pooh.
Happens to me constantly. The worst scenarios involve me leaving out critical information. Not good. And I think it's for all the reasons stated. Occasionaly it ain't me that screwed up, but alas, no one believes me. :confused:
waywardclam 02-02-04, 03:02 PM I could swear you'd already said that... :D
citruscat2002 02-02-04, 03:42 PM Ooops -- Sorry for the double post:(
Oh dear, Citruscat are you sure you said that?
Well, I don't remember your saying that, and I have an excellent memory. :p
citruscat2002 02-03-04, 10:14 AM Saying what?
:D
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