solidfrenzy
09-26-07, 07:51 AM
Is a meeting of minds,
only in your mind?
If it is,
Why does it try?
And if it isnt,
How does it know?
only in your mind?
If it is,
Why does it try?
And if it isnt,
How does it know?
|
View Full Version : Meeting of minds solidfrenzy 09-26-07, 07:51 AM Is a meeting of minds, only in your mind? If it is, Why does it try? And if it isnt, How does it know? meadd823 09-26-07, 08:25 AM Is a meeting of minds, only in your mind Yes and no. yes- In that one thought is indpenedent of another thought yet they are both with in the same mind. No- communication is interactive = meeting of the minds - it take two. Answer E - All of the above. 4gotAgain 09-26-07, 08:28 AM what exactly do you mean by meeting of the minds? solidfrenzy 09-26-07, 09:53 AM Yes and no. yes- In that one thought is indpenedent of another thought yet they are both with in the same mind. No- communication is interactive = meeting of the minds - it take two. Answer E - All of the above. Ah, bravo. I see, not so easily fooled by such trickeries. solidfrenzy 09-26-07, 10:01 AM what exactly do you mean by meeting of the minds? Someone else will have to explain, I didnt understand till I experienced it 4gotagain, and right now I lack the clarity to define it. Matt S. 09-26-07, 11:30 AM I have a whole comittee in my head... depending on the time (like during an acute manic or mixed episode) I can even hear them....Hahahaha KittenPoker 09-26-07, 01:33 PM The answer is 42. SB_UK 09-26-07, 05:58 PM 26 So, what are the fundamental physical constants? We have 26. http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/constants.html UC Riverside 26 == 13 X 2 32 is the magic number Max Tegmark MIT The smallest number taken from the number of surfaces, vertices or edges which make up a truncated icosahedron or its dual. 42 as the solution to life, the Universe and 41+1 a good man and English major University of Cambridge Because there's no such thing as meaning outside of mind of man. -*- Meeting of minds Having something explained - which one feels one needed to explain to another - but couldn't find the words. ... ... ... because words lack sufficient {bandwidth, granularity, resolution, quality, character, meaning} -*- Evolution of communication it is :-) SB_UK 09-26-07, 06:14 PM mind of man who asks question ->-q->- mind of man who answers question -<-a-<- over the telephone - they do not know one another. -*- ->-q->- -<-a-<- mind of man who asks question contains a model for the man himself and the man who answers [man himself] [man who answers] -*- So the guy's mind who asks a question [man himself] [man who answers] receives -<-a-<- whereby since [man himself] [man who answers] are within the same mind - there will be commonalities between the two within the questioning mind - for instance - all men might be associated with having a beard in the mind of the querymaker (silly example - I know :-)) - and so - ... the [man who answers model] within the man who question's mind - has 'quality' or character - is already labelled as beard sporting. The answer (supplied in communication with another) will be taken up by the mind which questions - and will restructure the mind of the questioner if the model benefits their mind - ~that is~ if the new model provides a more efficient mechanistic description of reality. If so - the characterization of [man who answers] within the guy's mind who asks a question might change ... imagine if the answer delivers a model in which not all men have beards - in which case - the man who answers will be disrobed of his previously mandatory facial hair within the guy's mind who asks a question. The man who questions had seen plenty of what he thought were men - without beards. He'd made believe that they weren't - however now that not all men have beards - his internal models of reality (mind) - tally better with his observations. -> Better explanatory models of reality which eradicate logical inconsistency. ~that is~ if the new model provides a more efficient mechanistic description of reality. If so - mind rearranges - this is an energetically powered process describes as EEE-e elsewhere here :-) apologies for acronym - only have 1 typing finger currently ... so ... meeting of minds represents a triggered satisfying - immediate gestalt - gestalt or 'puzzle solution' - used in context of immediate understanding - kinda' like being transported outta' one's arm chair onto a beach - and being hit by a wave crashcollapsing at your feet - all before conscious mind has caught up with these unexpected happenings. :-) meeting of minds then ... as ... 'gestalt' ~as~ trigger of a deeply satisfying rearrangement of mind - accompanied by surefire (though absolutely unprovable) - unassailable belief that one understands *is* sure that the other is correct - and on the deepest level ***actually*** 'sees' what the other is trying to say. -*- The mind changes for the better - and the feeling is just so 'Summer breeze.' :-) 4gotAgain 09-26-07, 07:11 PM cool i get this sometimes, is it like you can see somethig in your mind and how to do it but cant explain the words to describe so instead come up with grunts? SB_UK 09-26-07, 07:13 PM uggg! solidfrenzy 09-26-07, 07:29 PM My try... sex is to biology as meeting of minds is to intellect BAM! Birth! Growth! Restructure! aaaaaaaaah ("summer breeze" is perfect!) Interesting sidenote... meeting of minds is outside time. And what does that mean? 4gotAgain 09-26-07, 07:35 PM so i was wrong or right or what? solidfrenzy 09-26-07, 11:42 PM Sorry 4gotagain, Were just playing with word patterns. Hmm, Know that time when you're playing with a friend, and you completely focus on what you're doing instead of what your mind is thinking, and the world kinda goes out of focus on the edges but sharpens the inside... Well, imagine sharing that sensation with someone. Thats a kind of meeting of the minds. meadd823 09-30-07, 04:53 AM cool i get this sometimes, is it like you can see somethig in your mind and how to do it but cant explain the words to describe so instead come up with grunts? No that would be the sex is to biology part. Meeting of the minds is like being unable to find the right word but not needing to because the other person is able to see the same picture as you with no grunts and few if any words. When it happens each person is aware and both actively participate. Communicating in this manner is a natural occurrence, there are no "special powers" or decoder rings. The sharing simply happens as if it was meant to be this way. uggg! Maybe they need a few more words SB? Okay maybe this will help . . .. have you ever met some one and instantly felt like you have known them your entire life? It is an unexplained familiarity that occurred "on it's own" This familiarity is instant and long lasting. like a "bonding" of long lost brothers or close family. Meeting of the minds is one step above that because there is some thing shared and it just happens much like the instant "familiarity"/"bonding" described above. I know it is one step above because the familiarity/ bonding occurs just before. I am not talking about "mind reading" that is not interactive. I am talking a two way communication occurring within the mind of both individuals. This can happen between opposite sex people or even same sex people because "biology and grunting" are not a necessary part of this any more than "biology" is a part of me responding to a post. Meeting of the minds is as voluntary as speaking but several times faster and ultimately more accurate. If the ability is strong enough even other people who are unable to see the picture, or share in the communication themselves are aware of there being a "connection". There is a frequency that most humans can pick up on even if they are unable to actually access the conversation. SB_UK 09-30-07, 04:22 PM ... a few more words hokey dokey :-) -*- once upon a time - I had this kinda' view that all another could do was sympathise - maybe make one feel a little better about oneself - through pointing out that we were all unhappy. Then - the strangest thing - a shot at happiness was offered through meeting of minds. In more detail - there's this kinda' notion that we're broken - and that we need more of agent orange and blue polkadots - next came the realization of the primacy of mind towards both mental 'disorders' - and also 'physical disorders' - kinda' by proxy ... and finally that the issues relating to problems with mind - could be solved by 'unravelling' logical inequalities within mind - and that we could not only feel not bad - but good - through communication with special other(s) - who ... ... well ... ... ... 'meeting of minds' covers it (nicely). ~ps~ the bad stuff which we feel is a kinda' trick which we play on ourselves - and exposure of our covert nature (a covert nature which was hitherto unbeknownst to self) - can make all of the bad stuff go away. meadd823 10-06-07, 08:55 AM ... and finally that the issues relating to problems with mind - could be solved by 'unravelling' logical inequalities within mind - and that we could not only feel not bad - but good - through communication with special other(s) - who ... ... well ... ... ... 'meeting of minds' covers it (nicely). Agreed |