View Full Version : adderall VS focalin


chickenbrain
09-26-07, 02:09 PM
hi all!

i started using adderall 20mg XR last week and have been feeling side effects im not sure i want to deal with. dont get me wrong--while the med is working, i am so attentive and driven now! but...the side effects.. i am pretty much ready to go to my doc and talk about other options. without knowing anthing about adderall, she just gave it to me. now im doing all sorts of research about it, including other meds.

these are the side effects i been having on adderall for one week:
hangover on the rebound
headache
anxiety--had an anxiety attack while not on it yesterday
upset stomach
sores in mouth? on tongue? sore throat--despite drinking at least a gallon of h2o a day.
INSMONIA!!!

of all the side effects, i would say the anxiety is the worse. of course the hangover and insomnia sucks too...

next time i go back to my doctor, i want o be given some options of meds to take, so now i ask...

in your people's opinion, what are the differences between adderall and focalin? i have heard that focalin is easier on the body--is that true? at least for anxiety.

is there a potency difference between the two? does one normally keep you more attentive than the other at the same dose?

when i google all the meds, they all say the same side effects, but i want to know if one med is known for less side effects than others.

thx!

lars
09-26-07, 07:56 PM
I think you should follow your instincts about going and talking to your Dr.

Most people experience some type of side effect or another from these drugs more often than not, but what you are describing sounds to me like something your Dr needs to know about for sure. Your Dr would want to know if what he/she prescribed for you was not working out as well as you both had hoped it would, especially if it's your first use of a prescription stimulant.

Please follow through on your feeling about talking to your Dr. I hope that you can keep us posted on how this unfolds for you.

antimony
10-24-07, 11:40 AM
I feel alot of similiar side effects....especially the anxiety touches home with me....was expecting a more relaxed euphoric feeling. Its almost like I needed a Xanax. Maybe I can get back on clonopin to help with the anxiety.

Rabbit
03-13-09, 08:57 AM
adderall contains 75% of the effective (dextro) isomers of amphetamine, while focalin is dextro-methylphenidate (only the right-handed, or active molecule of Ritalin). "Worst Pills/Best Pills" lists Focalin as:

dexmethylphenidate (FOCALIN, FOCALIN XR) (https://www.worstpills.org/member/drugprofile.cfm?m_id=34)
We list this drug as a Do Not Use drug because it has no advantage over similar drugs with longer safety records (generic Ritalin, methylphenidate)

Adderall is a mixture of amphetamine salts, 3-1 effective to non-effective levo (or left-handed molecules). DextroAmphetamine contains only the effective stereoisomer of amphetamine, and has fewer side effects.

To correctly establish the diagnosis of ADHD requires the use not only of medical but also of special psychological, educational, and social resources. Many children diagnosed with ADHD actually have problems that are primarily caused or worsened by inadequate teachers, unsuitable educational settings, or by problems with their parents. Similarly, many adults diagnosed with ADHD may have interpersonal problems that need to be dealt with by psychotherapy.

elegy
03-13-09, 10:04 AM
adderall contains 75% of the effective (dextro) isomers of amphetamine, while focalin is dextro-methylphenidate (only the right-handed, or active molecule of Ritalin). "Worst Pills/Best Pills" lists Focalin as:

dexmethylphenidate (FOCALIN, FOCALIN XR) (https://www.worstpills.org/member/drugprofile.cfm?m_id=34)
We list this drug as a Do Not Use drug because it has no advantage over similar drugs with longer safety records (generic Ritalin, methylphenidate)

Adderall is a mixture of amphetamine salts, 3-1 effective to non-effective levo (or left-handed molecules). DextroAmphetamine contains only the effective stereoisomer of amphetamine, and has fewer side effects.

To correctly establish the diagnosis of ADHD requires the use not only of medical but also of special psychological, educational, and social resources. Many children diagnosed with ADHD actually have problems that are primarily caused or worsened by inadequate teachers, unsuitable educational settings, or by problems with their parents. Similarly, many adults diagnosed with ADHD may have interpersonal problems that need to be dealt with by psychotherapy.

Worst Pills/Best Pills is a pile of *********, btw.



OP - Different meds work for different people. That's what makes this whole med thing so dang hard - what helps one person can make the other a miserable mess.

I can tell you that, in regards to Adderall/amphetamines vs. Focalin/methylphenidate, methylphenidate tends to stimulate the peripheral nervous system more than the amphetamines. Basically meaning that there's a higher chance of physical side effects with Focalin/Ritalin/Concerta etc.

Personally, I've tried Adderall XR, Vyvanse, Focalin/Focalin XR. Focalin is by far the most effective for me. Adderall and Vyvanse put me straight to sleep.

But the only way to know what will work best for you, is to try the med. Your doctor will try and prescribe the med he/she feels is more likely to help you than the next one.

hollywood
03-13-09, 04:12 PM
focalin works well. I take ritalin ir , was on concerta ... too much drama , dumbed it down and back to normal

VanReal
03-16-09, 09:45 PM
I noticed blurry vision when I took it, but I don't sleep well so attributed it to that. My head-shrinker also told me that drinking coffee with it is probably not a good idea because of potential jitters, and I am already a little anxious normally so she doesn't want me bouncing from the ceiling when I am supposed to be getting some serious work done. I am a little disturbed reading that it has not been tested for use longer than 6 weeks, what am I supposed to do after that?

palancar
07-07-09, 08:50 AM
Focalin and Adderall work in very different ways. One may work for someone and not another. Try both to see what helps you. There's a reason why they have different kinds of meds that work different ways. Talk to you doc and try the other med.

Onetimer212
05-23-11, 11:02 PM
Hey guys,

I literally just made this account and probably will
Never post again but I felt like I should give you some advice. I am fairly sure that that anxiety you are feeling is linked to the Extended release. In my opinion it's always been far to much for me...who needs adderall so much that it should keep going all day? When I take XR I get anxious and by the end of my day when it's time to go home I'm
Void of all joy or excitement. I'm
Not depressed I just alwas feel blah blah blah. That being said I'm also fairly sure that focalin is usually more powerful that adderall. If I can give any advice it's this: When you are feeling adverse affects always decrease the amount you are taking and never take XR. If you feel like you need another dose then redose yourself, don't leave it up to the drug itself...he doesn't know! Haha. Honestly man. Try the blue ten milligram adderals. I take half in the morning and half after lunch and I'm golden. Slightly euphoric, concentrated I'm even pleasant and fun to chat with! Not grinding my teeth and silently introspective like I am when I take too much. I hope this helps. P.S written from my I phone sorry for errors.

BalanceisKey
05-29-11, 11:36 PM
i like what was said above its important to realize when you're on to much, you may think more will help more but it really isn't like that.

Urgezz
08-08-11, 11:28 AM
Agreed.

However... many people here can attest to sleeping difficulties im sure. Also, i aswell as others surely are reluctant to start cocktailing to address this. Sometimes feeling lethargic means your actually lethargic. Increase in dosage somewhat compensates for this... not that it's healthy for you by any means, but it happens.

Any thoughts on adderall vs. Focalin abuse potential? I am personally weary of ir medications, have been down "that road" before... Am on Vyvanse now it's much smoother but lacks something i cant put my finger on

selita
08-08-11, 12:03 PM
I had insomnia and other problems on 20mg Adderall XR so reduced the dose to 10mg, and had no more problems for the next year. Side effects but nothing too bothersome.

I'm now trying Dexedrine, still 10mg. It seems to have a little less kick but less anxiety too. I think the anxiety was feeding my shyness and perfectionism a bit too much, even though it was very slight.

Daniel652
08-25-11, 12:37 AM
im still trying to figure out this focalinXR, tommorow will be my first double dose in a day...i dont get that euphoric feeling. i dont recall getting any feeling actually, i almost feel as though if i dont get that euphoric calm my brain down feeling, i wont have a good day

hollywood
08-25-11, 09:44 PM
Do most people feel focalin works better than Ritalin? Which is more effective?

Alex9
08-28-11, 07:36 PM
Do most people feel focalin works better than Ritalin? Which is more effective?

Well focalin is just the D-methylphenidate, where as ritalin has both L-methylphenidate and d-methylphenidate. The "D" isomer is supposed to have most of the therapeutic benefits while the "L" isomer is supposedly completely ineffective against adhd. Therefore 10mg of focalin is supposed to be equivalent to 20mg of ritalin, but without the side effects.

I thought that while focalin did have less side effects than ritalin, focalin simply didn't seem to work as well for me as the equivalent dose of ritalin.

It might be worth trying focalin since it's comparable to ritalin, but at least for me, ritalin was slightly more effective.

hollywood
08-28-11, 10:49 PM
Yeah I kind of agree. Since I take a larger dose than most my doctor said higher dose focalin may be better. Sounds kind of presumptuous actually. The Ritalin kick has always helped my ADHD. I am unsure why he didn't rx Ritalin la with boosters,been on concerta it's not bad but not as effective as Ritalin at points.

emilypowers84
09-11-11, 05:19 PM
I have never taken aderall but i may start soon. ive been taking dexmethyphenidate(Focalin) for some time now. it worked for me. then i stopped taking it for awhile. when i started up again i experienced some side effects i wasnt to happy about. i was short of breath, dizzy, fatigued, i would get hot flashes, my lips swelled, my heart felt like it was beating out of my chest. i plan on seing my doctor soon. he told me it was because he upped my dosage and also it may be because i stopped an started so suddenly. these kinds of meds are either amazing or they dont work. its like a hit or miss. im planning on trying aderall and if it works then great. if it doesnt then im going to try something else. i guess with these meds it is different for everyone. im an 18 yr old girl btw :D

hollywood
09-12-11, 09:01 AM
Yeah I agree with focalin, you have to keep with it, as it's different than regular ritalin. It kind of sneaks up on you regarding anxiety. It's not like the side effects you will get from ritalin , it's kind of in the background and then boom it hits you in the side of the face with odd anxiety and chest tightness. I think it drops off a bit quicker than they market too and I noticed that concerta lasted quite a bit longer .

ravagepirate
01-04-13, 07:58 PM
Hi, I used Focalin before using aderall xr 20mg. I stopped using focalin because I started having thoughts of suicide, my wife noticed the difference and told me that I've changed. The only side effects of aderall I have are dry mouth, euphoria and I dropped 23 pounds.
I recently started trying medical marijuana and it's 10 times better than either pill.

G252013
01-05-13, 05:14 PM
if focalin isn't working, your esteem is not where it needs to be in order for it to work, at least in my experience.

I believe this is why it is such a clean feeling when you are successful with it, because its more of a partnership as opposed to a pill doing it all for you.

sprocketlife
08-31-14, 09:55 PM
I started focalin xr 10mg once a day 12 days ago now I'm taking 40mg xr once a day, and once again it seems to be working less. It started out great but my tolerance is building so quickly with it. I take up to 1mg of xanax when need for anxiety. Well, the focalin at 40 is crashing not even by mid day, so I easy the xanax to try to smooth out. I finally decided to test taking no xanax one day took a 40 of focalin xr in the am then another in the afternoon. It seems to hold me well at that point.... But now it is slowing it seems. Only side effects so far is slight insomnia, sweating at times and increased sex drive. Wife lives that and so do I! Bonus, but I believe 80mgs or more may be too much. Talking to doc next week. It just seems my tolerance is building fast! It does that for anything tho. Any advice on lowering tolerance besides chealated magnesium? Also it does seem easy to get addicted to I had to hide my wife hide my pills.

sprocketlife
08-31-14, 10:18 PM
I started focalin xr 10mg once a day 12 days ago now I'm taking 40mg xr once a day, and once again it seems to be working less. It started out great but my tolerance is building so quickly with it. I take up to 1mg of xanax when need for anxiety. Well, the focalin at 40 is crashing not even by mid day, so I easy the xanax to try to smooth out. I finally decided to test taking no xanax one day took a 40 of focalin xr in the am then another in the afternoon. It seems to hold me well at that point.... But now it is slowing it seems. Only side effects so far is slight insomnia, sweating at times and increased sex drive. Wife lives that and so do I! Bonus, but I believe 80mgs or more may be too much. Talking to doc next week. It just seems my tolerance is building fast! It does that for anything tho. Any advice on lowering tolerance besides chealated magnesium? Also it does seem easy to get addicted to I had to hide my wife hide my pills.