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kilted_scotsman
09-27-07, 08:10 AM
Hi All

After my experiences trying to find where to go to get diagnosed in the UK I am posting this list of contact info. Please feel feel free to add places to it as you find them.

kilt

Maudsley Hospital (NHS Only)

Dr Xenitidis

Consultant Psychiatrist

Adult ADHD Service

Maudsley Hospital

Denmark hill

Camberwell

London

SE5 8AZ



Phone 020 7252 7570

Web page http://www.slam.nhs.uk/services/pages/detail.asp?id=1045 (http://www.slam.nhs.uk/services/pages/detail.asp?id=1045)





Learning Assessment and Neurocare Centre (NHS and Private)

Dr Kewley

48-50 Springfield Road

Horsham

West Sussex

RH12 2PD



Phone 01403 240002

Email info@lanc.uk.com

Web page http://www.lanc.uk.com/index.htm (http://www.lanc.uk.com/index.htm)



Swansea (NHS and Private)

Professor Johannes Thome

Consultant Psychiatist




Private Clinic

Sancta Maria Hospital

Ffynone Road

Swansea

SA1 6DF

Phone 01792 479040

Web Page http://johannesthome.com/private.html (http://johannesthome.com/private.html)



NHS Clinic

Cefn Coed Hospital

Waunarlwydd Road
Swansea

SA2 0GH
Phone 01792 561155

Web Page http://johannesthome.com/nhs.html (http://johannesthome.com/nhs.html)

kilted_scotsman
09-28-07, 09:32 AM
Followed up a lead regarding Dr Brian Toone who works at the Maudsley, his name appears in the Priory Healthcare website however it's in the medical/legal section dealing with expert witnesses and I was unable to find out if he takes private Adult ADHD referrals.

Further investigation uncovered a Dr Neil Macfarlane who has started with the Priory in the last month. Dr Macfarlanes riory webpage http://www.prioryhealthcare.com/For-professionals/Consultants/I-M/Dr-Neil-MacFarlane
indicates he specialises in Adult ADHD referrals. His recent arrival would explain why the Priory website does not list ADHD in the Adult section but only in the Child and Adolescent section and I had to check each individual childhood ADHD consultants details to find Dr Macfarlane.

There are times when ADHD hyperfocus comes in useful.

Dr Macfarlane works from
The Priory
Ticehurst House
Ticehurst
East Sussex
TN5 7HU

Tel 01580 200391

In doing this research it is obvious that the Priory does not cross refer, in that an inquiry about a referral for a speciality for which the location contacted does not have a consultant will not be passed on to a Priory location with a consultant in that speciality. The locations therefore appear to act independantly in true private market fashion. This accounts for the negative response received by my GP to his enquiry to the local Priory hospital.

kilt

kilted_scotsman
09-30-07, 08:04 PM
Purely by chance I found in the small ads in the Glasgow Herald an ad for the ADHD Direct service which appears to be the only place in Scotland.

web address is http://www.adhddirect.co.uk/

kilt

FuturePast
10-01-07, 06:51 PM
There's also the Dyscovery Centre (http://www.dyscovery.co.uk/index.pl) in Newport, South Wales.

And some more pointers in this thread.

kilted_scotsman
10-02-07, 08:56 AM
Currently (Autumn 2007) the Dyscovery Centre feels that adults such as myself (age 46) are outside the scope of its experience. It does deal with young adults, particularly those of student age.

This may change as awareness increases that ADHD continues after education ceases.

kilt

Ariosto
10-03-07, 01:58 PM
Professor David Nutt of the Neuroscience Department of Bristol University runs an ADHD clinic at Bristol Royal Infirmary. GP's can refer to him. Unfortunately, his clinic is only open once a month (funding reasons) so there is a wait of about 3 months.

mrshaupt
10-04-07, 02:48 PM
Dr. K. Puvanendram (PRIVATE)
The Essex Nuffield Hospital
Shelfield Road
Brentwood, Essex CM15 8EH
Telephone: 01277 201158

Dr. K. Puvanendram is specialized in paediatric psychiatry but does diagnosis and treatment of adults as well! My husband was able to book an appointment with 7 days notice, receive a full assessment the same day and is now getting proper medication. From what I've heard of prices charged by other clinics, I believe he is very affordable.

I hope this info can help someone! :D

PinkBeauty
10-04-07, 04:27 PM
Just found this article in the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/womenfamily.html?in_article_id=398544&in_page_id=1799

It mentions a Professor Philip Asherson who is the UK's leading expert on Adult ADHD at Maudsley Hospital, it says he runs 2 clinics there. Its dated last year so not sure if he's still there, or whether the guy you've mentioned above has taken over.

columbo
10-08-07, 11:51 AM
Dr Jonathan Dowson
Adult ADHD Clinic
Addenbrookes Hospital
Cambridge
jhd1000@cam.ac.uk

This is an NHS Adult ADHD clinic. As far as I know, because of funding issues, they only do assessments and do not generally offer ongoing treatment beyond the initial diagnosis. That would be left to your GP.

You will need probably need to be referred by a Psychiatrist, as was I. This is where I got assessed and diagnosed.

Don't be put off by stories of long waiting lists. I was able to be seen within a few weeks of my referral.

kilted_scotsman
10-24-07, 08:16 PM
Thanks for the long list Launter. I had hoped that the thread would stick to those clinics willing to assess, diagnose and treat Adult ADHD as opposed to childhood and adolescent ADHD as it is comparatively easy to find the latter as your list indicates.

I am sure that many of the clinics you have listed will eventually be willing to undertake work with adults but as yet the list of professionals willing to assess adults in the UK is very short.

kilt

meadd823
11-13-07, 02:09 AM
Okay I did manage to locate this thread and "sticky it" so that it will remain an easy find here in the UK section - I also posted a hyperlink to it on a post devoted to the UK in the "where do I find a health care practioner" thread located in the diagnosis section of General ADD -

Thank you kilted_scotsman for informing me of this wonderful information and it only took me a week to find it - but I did remember - {a miracle} becuase I believe a proper diagnosis is important enough to actually peirce through the ADD jumbled mess I call a brain or is that my desk - :confused: any hoo

kilted_scotsman is right places that assess children are soooo much easier to find than those who address adults - so lets try to keep this information relating to where adults can be assessed for ADD!

bahhhh
01-04-08, 11:40 AM
Nice thread.

couple things to add:

- Only consider the "Learning Assessment and Neurocare Centre" in Horsham if you can afford spending good money (£700+?) on a diagnosis because they do not undertake adult assessments under health insurance.

- Only consider Maudsley Hospital in Camberwell if you can afford to wait a couple years for your appointment. Thank you NHS!!!!

- Wellington Hospital in London could be an useful option for a diagnosis (Neuropsychological assessment cost about £850), I think they are ok with health insurance:

The Wellington Hospital
Wellington Place
London, NW8 9LE
Telephone: +44 (0)20 75865959

website: http://www.thewellingtonhospital.com/CustomPage.asp?guidCustomContentID=3E6D2DC8-EE8B-40EB-9A64-722E52F22125


--> I would be REALLY interested to know if anyone has been there and could tell me if they are good/what to expect.


Another useful resource might be the members list of the division of Neuropsychology of the British Psychological Society lists a few adult ADHD specialists in the UK:
http://www.bps.org.uk/don/member-list.cfm?&showAll=true


Hope this helps

kilted_scotsman
01-04-08, 07:44 PM
Thanks Bahhh

It would be interesting to know if any Health Insurances cover Adult ADHD/ADD assessments as it's not yet widely recognised in the UK and NICE are yet to publish treatment guidelines for the NHS.

kilt

bahhhh
01-04-08, 08:02 PM
Thanks Bahhh

It would be interesting to know if any Health Insurances cover Adult ADHD/ADD assessments as it's not yet widely recognised in the UK and NICE are yet to publish treatment guidelines for the NHS.

kilt

BUPA does not cover ADHD treatment but definitely covers the cost of medical diagnosis.

columbo
02-14-08, 08:03 PM
Sorry it has taken me so long to post this, but I have some useful information for anyone trying to get a referral to a clinic for diagnosis.

Just before Christmas, I phoned the South London and Maudsley Clinic and they told me that their waiting list is around 13 weeks, NOT 2 years as has been previously quoted here, so don't lose heart. It is a national service.

I also phoned the LANC clinic in Sussex, and they DO take NHS referrals. They said they could usually make an appointment within a few weeks of referral.

Some centres do not have a very long waiting list at all, so even if a centre only offers diagnosis but not follow-up treatment, it can be worth getting a diagnosis there anyway, and you can always request referral to the national service at Maudsley or at the LANC clinic for follow up treatment after that.

If you are seeking a diagnosis, don't do what us ADHD people do so often and give up when it gets difficult. Keep going! Realistically, a diagnosis may take up to a year, but it is worth it to know for sure whether or not you have ADHD.

Finally, I found a private clinic in Harrow with a good Psychiatrist, Dr. Theodore Soutzos, who specialises in Adult ADHD amongst other things. As far as I know, he can offer an initial assessment for about £350 which is cheaper than the LANC clinic. It should only take one consultation for a diagnosis of ADHD, but I am not entirely sure, so don't quote me on it. Further consultations are £300 for 60 mins or £175 for 30 mins. Unfortunately, they do not take NHS referrals. I have heard very good things about him though.

His details can be found on the following website.

http://www.harrowhealthcare.com/services1.htm#psychiatrist

Hope this all helps.

PS Regarding insurance, the only insurance I ever came across that covered psychiatric treatment was quite expensive and only allowed you to claim for psychiatric treatment two years after the cover starts, and as with most things would not cover you for existing conditions. They may be other options I am not aware of though.

Ariosto
03-03-08, 09:00 AM
There is now a new NHS adult ADHD clinic in Bristol at the Bristol Royal Infirmary. From next month (April) it will officially be running under the auspices of the Avon & Wiltshire Mental Health Trust. Any GP from the Bristol area can refer a patient by sending a letter with some reason for suspecting an ADHD diagnosis to the clinic. If the patient is not from the Bristol area (e.g. Weston-super-Mare, Bath, Gloucester) the process is currently a little more complicated because the relevant PCTs only fund, currently, on a case by case basis.

The clinic cannot at the moment accept patients that are currently in prison, under 18 years old (there may be some exceptions), or have active and severe addictions (again there may be exceptions to the latter). There is a waiting list, but at the moment, it's not very long.

skatty
03-27-08, 03:30 AM
There is now a new NHS adult ADHD clinic in Bristol at the Bristol Royal Infirmary. From next month (April) it will officially be running under the auspices of the Avon & Wiltshire Mental Health Trust. Any GP from the Bristol area can refer a patient by sending a letter with some reason for suspecting an ADHD diagnosis to the clinic. If the patient is not from the Bristol area (e.g. Weston-super-Mare, Bath, Gloucester) the process is currently a little more complicated because the relevant PCTs only fund, currently, on a case by case basis.

The clinic cannot at the moment accept patients that are currently in prison, under 18 years old (there may be some exceptions), or have active and severe addictions (again there may be exceptions to the latter). There is a waiting list, but at the moment, it's not very long.


I live in Swindon and I believe that Wiltshire and Swindon PCT are covered by this clinic too. I'm awaiting a referal there myself- I've been diagnosed by a psychiatrist in Swindon after a GP referal. The psychiatrist recomended that my ADD is treated BUT all I've been given so far is SSRIs- even though I'm not depressed!!! :confused:

Red Bean
04-12-08, 09:29 AM
I wonder if i'd have any chance from Gloucestershire? Certainly sounds like something to look into.

x x

QueensU_girl
04-12-08, 10:28 AM
re: funding

Obviously I am not in the UK, but I am wondering this aloud:

Can people get funding assistance for TESTING/ASSESSMENT via post secondary student funding programs in the UK?

(e.g. via student loans; gov't or school bursary [need-based] programs for students who are registered with campus disabilities offices?)

Just asking b/c this is how it works here...

Even going to college/university *part time* as an adult, can make one here eligible for LD/ADHD Testing funding.

Ariosto
04-12-08, 01:48 PM
Here's the latest referral information for the Adult ADHD Clinic at Addenbrookes (note: Dr Muller has taken over from Dr Dowson):

For referrals to the Adult ADHD Clinic in Cambridge you can use either of the following two addresses:

Adult ADHD Clinic
Psychiatric Outpatients S3
Box 175
Addenbrooke's Hospital
Cambridge CB2 0QQ

OR

Dr Ulrich Müller
Department of Psychiatry
University of Cambridge
Box 189
Addenbrooke's Hospital
Cambridge CB2 2QQ

Ariosto

columbo
04-12-08, 08:02 PM
re: funding

Obviously I am not in the UK, but I am wondering this aloud:

Can people get funding assistance for TESTING/ASSESSMENT via post secondary student funding programs in the UK?

(e.g. via student loans; gov't or school bursary [need-based] programs for students who are registered with campus disabilities offices?)

Just asking b/c this is how it works here...

Even going to college/university *part time* as an adult, can make one here eligible for LD/ADHD Testing funding.

Hi there

Interesting question. This is my understanding of the situation here, at least in England. Scottish rules may be different and I have no knowledge of those.

For university courses, you can usually apply for funding from something called an "Access Fund" for dyslexia assessments. Any publically funded University should have one. Funding is not guaranteed, but if you can provide good evidence for the need for an assessment they may help.

ADHD, however, is classed very differently than dyslexia. Basically, ADHD is officially a medical diagnosis and not classed as a learning difficulty (LD). Because of this, they may tell you that you have to go through your GP. A private ADHD assessment here costs significantly more than a full educational psychological assessment and that might mean they are less willing to offer help for an ADHD assessment.

Dyslexia can be diagnosed here by a qualified chartered educational psychologist or a specialist SpLD Tutor with suitable qulifications. (Specific Learning Difficulties). It is not considered a psychiatric condition.

But an educational psychologist is not allowed to diagnose ADHD here (except maybe a child clinical psychologist for children, I'm not sure). That has to be done by a psychiatrist.

I would be very interested to know if a University has ever granted access funds for the purposes of helping someone get an ADHD diagnosis. It may have happened.

The first port of call is still the local GP.

Destracted_UK
04-15-08, 08:44 AM
I had to wait ages for the Maudsley.

1. Gp
2. Referral to local psych
3. He agrees assesment would be good
4. Gp applies for funding
5. Gp gets funding
6. Go on the list
7. Get assessed.
8. Wait another 3 months for result
9. Started meds this year

The whole thing took over 18 months but that is just the way it goes sometimes with the NHS! Am glad I got the ball rolling when I did though.

skatty
04-15-08, 03:10 PM
Hi there

Interesting question. This is my understanding of the situation here, at least in England. Scottish rules may be different and I have no knowledge of those.

For university courses, you can usually apply for funding from something called an "Access Fund" for dyslexia assessments. Any publically funded University should have one. Funding is not guaranteed, but if you can provide good evidence for the need for an assessment they may help.

ADHD, however, is classed very differently than dyslexia. Basically, ADHD is officially a medical diagnosis and not classed as a learning difficulty (LD). Because of this, they may tell you that you have to go through your GP. A private ADHD assessment here costs significantly more than a full educational psychological assessment and that might mean they are less willing to offer help for an ADHD assessment.

Dyslexia can be diagnosed here by a qualified chartered educational psychologist or a specialist SpLD Tutor with suitable qulifications. (Specific Learning Difficulties). It is not considered a psychiatric condition.

But an educational psychologist is not allowed to diagnose ADHD here (except maybe a child clinical psychologist for children, I'm not sure). That has to be done by a psychiatrist.

I would be very interested to know if a University has ever granted access funds for the purposes of helping someone get an ADHD diagnosis. It may have happened.

The first port of call is still the local GP.

Yeah I went GP- counsellor- Psychiatrist.

He diagnosed ADD. I now have an appointment to see an educational psychologist who is gonna assess my ADD for the DSA (disabled students allowance) for university. I'm gonna start in September (a bit late at 28!).

The DSA is a grant towards any help needed towards my studues- ie computer equipment, tutors etc.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/EducationAndTraining/HigherEducation/DG_10034898

columbo
06-03-08, 12:42 PM
Yeah I went GP- counsellor- Psychiatrist.

He diagnosed ADD. I now have an appointment to see an educational psychologist who is gonna assess my ADD for the DSA (disabled students allowance) for university. I'm gonna start in September (a bit late at 28!).

The DSA is a grant towards any help needed towards my studues- ie computer equipment, tutors etc.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/EducationAndTraining/HigherEducation/DG_10034898


Hi

I receive DSA and have had computer equipment, an ADHD coach, and more unusually, a professional declutterer, all agreed by the assessor.

The declutterer is an unusual one, but I got it by first getting ADHD coaching, and then getting my ADHD coach to recommend a professional declutterer to help clear my study space. The decluttering has been by far the most helpful form of support I have received through the DSA. I would hope that in future, it would become normal for those whose ADHD causes them to be messy.

Let me know how you get on and if you need any help, PM me.

skatty
06-04-08, 03:46 AM
Hi

I receive DSA and have had computer equipment, an ADHD coach, and more unusually, a professional declutterer, all agreed by the assessor.

The declutterer is an unusual one, but I got it by first getting ADHD coaching, and then getting my ADHD coach to recommend a professional declutterer to help clear my study space. The decluttering has been by far the most helpful form of support I have received through the DSA. I would hope that in future, it would become normal for those whose ADHD causes them to be messy.

Let me know how you get on and if you need any help, PM me.

The declutterer wouldn't be able to double as a PA? :D

columbo
06-04-08, 11:13 AM
The declutterer wouldn't be able to double as a PA? :D

Well, declutterers are also known as professional organisers. Give me a few days and I will try and start another thread about this. We probably should keep one this on topic.

Morrigan
07-02-08, 09:32 AM
I'm new to the forum and my partner was just diagnosed (2 months ago) at the Learning Assessment & Neurocare Centre in Horsham. We weren't prepared to wait for the NHS, and I must say this is the best £725 I've ever spent. He's trying out Dex & Ritalin, and it looks like our GP will prescribe on the NHS once the dosage is worked out.

They're very supportive if you need to contact them between appointments, the only thing that could be a problem for some is if you're not in driving distance as we had to go there 2 days running for the assessment. We could drive (3 hours each way) but any further and you're looking at accomodation costs too.

We got an NHS referral and my partner was assessed and prescribed for within less than 2 weeks. I would definitely recommend them-they're very nice and very efficient!

planetdave
07-16-08, 02:08 PM
The Priory (private)

I know for sure that they have a doctor at their Altrincham (Manchester - they have another site in the south) site that deals with AD/HD. It used to be Dr Saroj Soni - not sure if she is still there.

x Alanna x is going there soon and might shed some light on exactly who the specialist is.

planetdave
08-14-08, 04:59 AM
Just had the above confirmed - ask Alanna for details :D

InTheMoment
09-10-08, 12:13 AM
Dr Andy Zamar at the Priory Roehampton (the famous Priory that you see celebs going to on TV) specialises in Adult ADHD. He prescribes several off-label medications too, so you can get Adderall and Guanfacine etc. Note that Adderall works out at about £7.00 pill so if you end up on more than 30mg you are looking at over £400/month plus a 15 minute consult at £100/month. Andy is £360/hour! Anyway contact details are:

The Priory Hospital Roehampton
Priory Lane
Roehampton
SW15 5JJ
Tel. 020 8876 8261
Fax. 020 8392 2632
Email. info@priorygroup.com

skylark0099
09-20-08, 09:12 PM
i went to Maudsley in aug 2008 i only had to wait 6 weeks from seeing the shrink. was told i had to go back for another assessment and still waiting for an appointment. but so far so good. there was a doc in caterbury that used to take adults but i will need to check this out first.

HyperADD
10-02-08, 11:06 AM
I just wanted to sign in and say thank you for referring me to Dr Theodore Soutzos. I struggled for years (all my life) before I knew I had a condition. I never did well at school even though I'm smart enough. I kept losing things including friends and I struggled in relationships. I got to thinking everything was my fault. Really and truly I could have been used as a guinea pig for ADHD.

My life has changed because of this forum. Six months ago, I went to see Dr Soutzos at Harley Street. Before this I had already tried all of the recommended psychiatrists online for all different disorders. Some psychiatrists even told me they didn't believe in ADHD. Dr Soutzos was the first doctor to diagnose me and treat me for ADHD.

FYI, I also tried two separte psychiatrists at two different Priory Hospitals and I was unhappy with both. My instant impression in dealing wtih the Priory group was that it was simply a money-making operation. Yes, I know that these are private doctors, but still... Dr Soutzos was the first doctor who listened to me properly and did anything about it. He's also coached me and helped me psychologically to deal with the effects of my ADHD.

For the first time in my life I am able to hold down a job, I am in a medium to long-term relationship and I have gotten back in touch with my brother after not speaking to him for 6 years. I could not speak highly enough of Dr Soutzos and his PA. Dr Soutzos is the best psychiatrist for ADHD in the UK.

If you're like me, please do yourself a favour and call his PA on 0107 927 6873. They usually tell you that he is booked for a few weeks, but if you tell them you want an emergency appointment they'll get you an appointment in a few days.

Fresco
10-15-08, 08:31 AM
This thread is really interesting, I am new to the forum so hello to everyone!

I'm in a bit of pickle with regard to ADHD specialists and medications. I have already seen my fair share of consultants and have tried ritalin, equasym, concerta etc. The only one my GP was not prepared to try without going to see another specialist was Adderall or Dexedrine. I think I need to see a doctor who can perhaps add in something to reduce the negative effects of the stimulant. For the first time I had some motivation and focus but the stimulants made me feel agitated, dysphoric etc.

The LANC centre looks good but its pricey and I'm not sure I need another assesment! I'm a little wary of going to private psychiatrists I've had my fair share of fleecing. If anyone could recommend a doctor who is really good at the psychopharmacology aspect I would be most appreciative.

Many thanks.

Ariosto
10-15-08, 08:49 AM
Where in the UK do you live?

urriup
11-17-08, 12:24 PM
I am soo tired. I've spent all day chasing web sites, and my head's full now. How do I know whether I've got ADHD or not? :(

roseblood
02-03-09, 04:30 PM
Hi,

Female, 20. I have an appointment in March with the adult ADHD unit in Maudsley hospital for an assessment. Once I actually mentioned ADHD to my GP (before that we both thought I had some kind of anxiety problem and I was having counselling) she referred me to the local psychiatrist, because her referral to Maudsley wouldn't be enough on its own according to their policy. When I had a referral from both of them, and confirmation that the PCT would fund an assessment, they sent me a questionnaire, confirmed I was on their waiting list, and now I have an appointment. In March it'll have been six or seven months since the time I mentioned ADHD to my GP.

I know I've been very lucky, as the only complaint I can make about the NHS so far is that it's been slow, partly because the route is convoluted and features a lot of rules and restrictions (the most frustrating being that GPs can't prescribe the medications without a specialist's recommendation, even if they wanted to). Didn't get sent to the local mental health team and no one's been unwilling to consider or explore ADHD as a possibility first. This may be largely because of the individuals I've seen, the way I've presented the possibility, who knows but I suspect one factor is that talking about my problems has not really been a novel experience, allowing the symptoms to shine a little brighter. Usually ADHD symptoms diminish in an evaluative setting, but I'd been seeing a counsellor and a hypnotherapist for a while before I'd mentioned it to my GP and by now I'm an old pro, hehe, so there's no element of being kept on my toes - something which makes the ADHD brain seem to function more normally.

As a result, I've noticed the more I've been in these situations, and the more comfortable I feel in them, the more I act like my typical self and the signs are more apparent. I don't know if this will help anyone else somehow, but all I can suggest is running through the situation in your head for a bit, or trying to explain it all to someone you know as practice, so it won't seem quite as new and strange when you get there.

planetdave
02-03-09, 04:36 PM
I've recently had my results from The Maudsley - the two visits were quite an easy experience compared to the rest of the NHS.

Watch out for the break though - the coffeeshop is usually closed when they throw you out so take a flask if you require caffeine. Otherwise it's the usual overpriced pepsi machine.

roseblood
02-03-09, 04:59 PM
Thanks Dave, oh I'll be taking a picnic anyway, too expensive to eat out in London. ;)

How thorough is the 'comprehensive report' they give you? Does it tell you specifically which things are causing the most trouble, e.g. working memory, reaction time? How helpful did you find it?

planetdave
02-03-09, 05:35 PM
My Maudsley report is a six page document which has various headings in it (mostly histories eg social/psychiatric/family/drug and personal) with the last two pages covering the two assessments they made (mental state and neurological - the two visits).

The results were not discussed in depth (unlike my private diagnosis) but are adequate for use by other NHS professionals since they give a decent grounding and clear instructions in how they would like things to proceed.

Comparing it to my private diagnosis...private was better presented and written more fluently with a greater depth of explanation of my variety of ADHD.

The private report was also not the end of the matter - my psych sent several instructions to my GP and was involved more by wanting a monthly blog off me which he responded to.

As reports go the private one shades the day but they are both suprisingly thin documents and I expected much more detail.

Working memory was addressed in the neurological testing (which I found quite fun) where they tested thinking time against a stopwatch and twist you inside out with things like finishing a sentance with a word that DOESN'T fit. The results are broken down into several headings but are not dwelt upon much, they appear to be more a tool to help them see how your brain ticks.

I could give you a thorough grounding in exactly what they do but practice would skew the results artificially so you are best going in blind.

roseblood
02-19-09, 07:48 AM
Update:

Had my Maudsley assessment (interview) yesterday. The doctor couldn't make the original appointment so I got a new one for a month earlier. He said it's currently inconclusive because although my inattentive symptoms are typical, the fact that I'm self and informant-rated as significantly more hyperactive now than when I was a child is doesn't fit the profile of a typical ADHD course (I knew this and would be happy with a ADHD-PI diagnosis because of it; they're all treated the same way afterall so I don't really care), and because there's overlap with autism symptoms. I thought everyone gets a neuropsychiatric assessment but apparently not, as he's going to arrange one now because they want more information, including my IQ. He said the policy requires they can't give me a stimulant trial until they've made a confident diagnosis, although he said if it were up to him he'd prefer to try that as I do have significant ADHD traits. He's going to look over the Asperger's questionnaire I was sent and if I score highly enough he's going to arrange an appointment with the AS specialist there as well.

Personally, I think I may have been less hyperactive as a child largely because I had severe anxiety (to this day any anxiety makes me go stiff, not fidget more) and asthma and a learned hatred of exercise because I was badly coordinated and bad at PE (gym) and any running at all hurt straight away because of the asthma. Also depression for much of my adolescence. Apart from that, I don't know, perhaps the hyperactive symptoms got worse for reasons that can be traced to something other than the brain differences associated with ADHD but either way I want to try stimulants because I always met the inattentive criteria anyway. And he said himself if it was comorbid with autism the medication would be the same so it's a little annoying that that has to be looked into first. I don't think I have autism, either. But I can appreciate why it would be suspected. Won't bore you with any more but there are similarities which I interpret as resulting from ADHD and other factors, and I'm quite sure I don't meet the DSM criteria even though I display a few characteristics commonly, but not exclusively associated with AS (stimming for example). Also, my mum may have misunderstood some of the questions in the questionnaire as became clear during the interview - she rated me highly for 'taking things literally' but what she described was nothing like what they meant. She thought it was asking whether I believe anything I'm told (which I don't anyway).

I should probably point out as well that I've already been diagnosed with ADHD by a clinical psychologist (not saying that means I definitely have it), but I'm doing this because I need a specialist psychiatrist's opinion and recommendation before my GP can prescribe me anything for it or get me CBT.

Hi,

Female, 20. I have an appointment in March with the adult ADHD unit in Maudsley hospital for an assessment. Once I actually mentioned ADHD to my GP (before that we both thought I had some kind of anxiety problem and I was having counselling) she referred me to the local psychiatrist, because her referral to Maudsley wouldn't be enough on its own according to their policy. When I had a referral from both of them, and confirmation that the PCT would fund an assessment, they sent me a questionnaire, confirmed I was on their waiting list, and now I have an appointment. In March it'll have been six or seven months since the time I mentioned ADHD to my GP.

I know I've been very lucky, as the only complaint I can make about the NHS so far is that it's been slow, partly because the route is convoluted and features a lot of rules and restrictions (the most frustrating being that GPs can't prescribe the medications without a specialist's recommendation, even if they wanted to). Didn't get sent to the local mental health team and no one's been unwilling to consider or explore ADHD as a possibility first.

roseblood
04-08-09, 03:47 PM
Update: Had the neuropsychiatric assessment done a few weeks ago and received the report today. They've diagnosed ADHD and recommended Ritalin and cognitive-behavioural therapy. Still got to get approval for funding and have arrangements made but there shouldn't be any obstacles that can't be navigated now. Ah, at last. :)

alee
07-24-09, 11:46 PM
I am new to group.and have not figuered out how to post a new question to the group.
as of yet. I replyed to the womens conference thread just a few minuets ago in hopes of getting some help. then found this thread. I am getting nervus!

I am ADHD and dyslexic. I am moving to scotland on the 28th of this month..
I am concerned I may have a hard time finding a doctor who can prescribe my medication. Amphetamine the generic for adderall. Of course It will need to be privet pay.

I will have less than a 30 days supply when I arrive next Tuesday,I hope I can connect with a doctor before my prescription runs out. I will be living in the Highlands in Tain
The closest biger city I believe Invergorden. Are their any Doctor that treat adults with ADHD in the area?
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keep2up2
08-21-09, 06:40 AM
Dr Theodore Soutzos

I Have read lots of positive info on Dr Soutzos, have also read General Medical Council info re: complaint and GMC interim panel order making reference 'that sexual relationships with patients or former patients are unethical and unacceptable'. Does anybody know anything about this order? makes me unsure about him.

The_Subreption
09-07-09, 06:56 AM
I used Kewley at the Learning Assessment Centre in Horsham, as shown on your list.

Very nice guy, though in my personal case I wish i never went onm the meds, as i believe i suffered brain damage as a result. Not interested in debating it, i know i have.

But he himself is a nice chap, and the centre is excellent, though i recommend anyone FIRST try behavioural therapy, not meds, as meds should be treated with caution, They are effective to an extent, but it's a case of 'buy now, pay later' I believe.

They do one 3 hour assessment with IQ and other tests included, then a follow up. Can't remember the price, but it was reasonable.

crazycat1990
12-14-09, 03:39 PM
Well I'm 19, female, live in Surey.

I went to my GP and mentioned the symtpoms of ADHD I have, she made a referaal to my local mental health team.

I got diganosed with ADHD in July but seeing as they are just a basic NHS mental health team and do not specialise in treating and diagnosing adults with ADHD, they didn't mention subtypes or anything. It was very basic and not that professional if I'm honest. I was meant to fill out 2 questionnaires but they couldn't get hold of the second one or something so I only completed one, and obviously they asked me questions at the appointments. And that was it! Put me on Concerta 18mg, then 36, now on 54 (the lower doses did nothing). 54mg is still pretty meh...not feeling a great difference but I'll see how things go (a few days after starting the dose I split up with my bf of 2 years etc so was down...which will obviously affect/worsen symtpoms etc).

Anyway, at my last appointment (I go every few weeks)...they said they had spoken to the consultant psychiatrist, and she said it would be good to refer me to a specialist! So they have made a referral to the Maudsley Clinic :D so pleased!
They explained that even though I was "diagnosed" in July, they only specialise in diagnosing children/teens. They do not have the "tools" and stuff to diagnose adults, only specialist centres can do so. Hence my referral!

This was over a month ago and I haven't heard any news yet...they said they would send me a copy of the referral letter but I've not received it yet, so gonna phone them tomorrow and find out if they've actually made the referral yet (hope they have!).

I've heard various things about waiting lists...hopefully it won't be 2 years!! But it'll be worth it and at least for now I am still getting treatment.

They didn't mention funding :confused: I didn't even think about it either until I read people's posts about it on here. But seeing as I've been referred by a consultant psychiatrist it should be ok, right?

I'd love to hear from anyone who has been to the Maudsely Clinic about their experiences. Like what is the assessment like, will I need anything like school reports etc.
That's an issue though - 1) Where are my school reports? :eek: Probably in the loft somewhere, but knowing my luck they won't be!
And 2) The school reports, to my knowledge, never really mentioned my symtpoms. Not that anyone ever suspected ADHD back then (only thought about it the past few years). But even the issues it causes, they weren't really mentioned. But I did have problems...they just weren't as noticeable.
Now I know this is common with females with ADHD...but where do they draw a line? If there is no proof other than my own word, that I displayed the symptoms at school and not just as home...will they say I don't have it?! :(

I don't know if my parents will go with me, I guess even though I'm 19 the clinic will probably want information from other people to help with the diagnosis.
That's another thing I'm wondering about - how much my parents noticed it. Yes they noticed my behaviour and my issues but I've been thinking about it recently...and realised that a lot of issues I had, such as focusing and concentrating on homework, distracibility etc...weren't always obvious. Like if I was in my bedroom doing homework and struggling to focus etc...it wasn't obvious because...well, no one else was there to see it!
That was at primary school though...during secondary school when more focus etc was needed, it obviously became harder for me and instead of just sitting in my room, struggling but *just about* getting through...I didn't cope. I would just leave it and do something more fun because I mentally couldn't cope with it. I don't know how I managed 10 GCSEs - 5 B grades, 5 C grades!! Well my intelligence, clearly :p

Also I have Asperger's too, so in some ways that masked the ADHD symptoms. When I was very young (infant school age) I can't remeber many ADHD symptoms, apart from daydreaming/racing thoughts in my head. But the Asperger's side of things was more obvious - sensory issues (used to cry/shout at people when they were loud or when they laughed), VERY quiet, odd mannerisms/ritualistic movements/patterns of behaviour. But as I got older the ADHD came out out more...and then during the past 5 years or so, it's seemed to have become worse (but probably due to changes such as harder schoolwork, more need for organisation etc.
So it's like I've gone:
Asperger's and a little ADHD.
Asperger's and ADHD
ADHD and Asperger's.

:p

dingbat
08-02-10, 04:39 PM
i was treated by soutzos. no vulnerable woman should see him, he is a predator.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1299697/Top-Harley-Street-psychiatrist-preyed-patients-sex-groomed-suicidal-woman.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

inattentiveprof
08-21-10, 10:49 AM
Dr. Theodore Soutzos Initially I tried the NHS route. They are free but were no good, many months wasted.

I went to see Dr. Soutzos in Harley St., London. He is very expensive but I had a meeting, diagnosis, Ritalin evaluation and prescription within 2 weeks of calling.

The first meeting was 50mins. I was quite confident about having ADHD and so was he after the standard tests, and he gave a diagnosis and Ritalin order with instructions for finding the right dose. He was efficient and knew I came back the week after for 25mins and we finalized a dose. He is careful about dosage which is important. Another follow-up 3months later.

I am now seeing him when needed, maybe annual unless something comes up. He wanted something more regular but I was unwilling because about the expense; I had to be quite firm about this. The cost for 50mins is about 450GBP, half that for 25mins.

Note that I was well researched in the condition, had evaluated myself and read some of the medical literature on treatments. So it might have taken fewer visits than another case.

In any case I recommend him as someone who will be good at diagnosing and treating ADHD.

Edit: just saw the stuff about sex with patients. Disturbing. Doesn't affect me, I'm paying for a service, but avoid him if you're a woman.

Spikey 723
10-27-10, 12:57 PM
Yorkshire and The Humber Strategic Health Authority


South West Yorkshire Mental Health NHS Trust - Dr Marios Adamou, Services for Adults with ADHD, Manygates, Portobello Road, Wakefield WF1 5PN
Tel 01924328104
Dr Christopher Taylor - Newsam Centre, Seacroft Hospital, Leeds LS14 6WB
Tel: 0113 3056434

littlefidget
03-06-12, 06:42 PM
Anyone know of anywhere NHS or private in Scotland?

Pixelite
07-07-12, 11:16 AM
I have tried to contact the Johannes Thome contact in Swansea several times by email on their really poor website, but have never heard anything back. Will try calling them, but not sure what to say?

And when it says 'NHS AND Private', does that mean I can get an appointment with them without a referral from my normal GP and be prescribed on NHS?

hospes
07-27-12, 10:19 AM
Does anyone know of any private clinics in South Wales that will assess adult ADD?

I'm having no luck with the NHS in Rhondda Cynon Taf so rather than spend months or longer fighting I'm going to go private. This is a stretch for me but really think it will be worth it.

All of the names and locations I've read in online forums have led to dead ends.

I've tried Sancta Maria Hospital, BUPA and they're no go.

I've spoken to the Dyscovery Centre in Newport. They're very helpful but expensive. I'm currently looking at being assessed in Bristol. Even with the time and travelling they'll work out substantially cheaper for me.

Ideally I'd like to use a South wales clinic if an affordable one exists.

Has anyone been assessed privately in South Wales recently?

With thanks

Flory
07-27-12, 06:40 PM
Dr Stephen Humphries Clinical Psychiatrist
ADHD Clinic
Harley Therapy
12 Harley street

Quanta
07-17-13, 08:58 AM
My GP told me that he referred me to a guy in the building he is in (Birkenhead, Merseyside) to get evaluated, I am 25 years old. I have only just now within the past hour learned that astonishingly adult ADHD is not even considered real in the UK, which is both equal parts disgusting and disturbing. I finally thought I had found what was wrong with me and would be able to get help for it, and I was looking forward to it. It has been a few weeks since he told me he was going to refer me for the evaluation, and told me I would get a letter in the post about it, but it has been a few weeks now and I have had no such letter - is this because the guy probably got the referral and denied it because I'm not a child?

I have made an appointment to see my GP on Friday and I will talk to him about it.

In the meantime, are there any adult assessment centres in the North-West at all? I really don't think I will be able to get all the way down to London.

In the meantime also I am going to self medicate with Armodafinil.

Quanta
07-19-13, 05:14 AM
I can't edit my post, but shortly after I found out that the only guy in the entire north-west of england who does adult adhd happens to be in the exact same clinic that my GP is in, and is the one he referred me to. What the hell kind of luck is that?

Dr. Peter Mason
Stein Centre
St. Catherines Hospital
Derby Rd
Birkenhead CH42 O1Q

No phone number that I can find, sorry.

Fraser_0762
07-19-13, 07:18 AM
Why are all the clinics in England?

Does ADHD not exist in Scotland or something?

Fuzzy12
07-19-13, 07:34 AM
Why are all the clinics in England?

Does ADHD not exist in Scotland or something?

From: (http://aadduk.org/help-support/specialists-support-and-coaches/)



NHS Fife

1. Dr Judith Burgess – Consultant Psychiatrist www.nhsfife.scot.nhs.uk

NHS Lothian

1. Dr Prem Shah - Lothian Adult ADHD Service, Royal Edinburgh Hospital, Morningside Terrace, Edinburgh EH10 5HF Tel: 0131 537 6000 e:Mail: premal.shah@nhslothian.scot.nhs.uk

The Lothian Adult ADHD service is Scotland’s first dedicated ADHD service for adults. It is an out-patient based service providing advice, education, diagnostic assessments and treatments for adults with ADHD. Individuals can be referrred by their GPs or their psychiatrists. The service is primarily aimed for those in the Lothian regions although referrals from outside these areas may be considered.

Scotland Private

Edinburgh, East and Fife

1. Dr Premal Shah BSc (Hons), MBChB, MD, FRCPsych; Spire Shawfair Park Hospital; Tel: 0131 316 2530 or 07765 707359; Email: suprem.shah@gmail.com

Glasgow, Lanarkshire and West

1. Gordon Brown, ADHD Direct Unit 5, Lennoxtown Enterprise Centre, 12 Railway Court, Lennoxtown G66 7LL Tel: 07803 235123
http://www.adhddirect.co.uk e:Mail – gordonbrown@adhddirect.co.uk

There is a very good clinic for ADHD in Scotland, but I've forgotten which one it is. It might be the one in Glasgow or maybe the Lothian one.

Waqas123
09-16-13, 12:51 PM
Are there any clinics in the East Midlands, or Midlands?

James2020
11-12-13, 02:06 PM
Cambridge Adult ADHD Clinic.

www.cambridgeadhdclinic.com

Dr Pironti is very professional and knowledgeable, he is also an academic.
After his diagnosis I got my prescription from my GP (if you want to pay for the meds they also arrange the service).

I went to the London clinic, but they see patients in Cambridge too.


Cheers
James

Vicdaz
02-17-14, 07:47 PM
Hi all I live in manchester and attend the adult ADHD clinic at

Specialist service for adult ADHD
rawnsley building
Manchester royal infirmary
Oxford rd
Manchester
M13 9WL

Hope this helps :-)