Today my mind was doing strange things. My mind kept going over things like a daialogue or a book. If someone walked past, a voice in my mind would be saying "He merrily walked towards the young girl" etc etc I had the same word going over and over in each sentence it was something like sheepishly or a word like it.
So in my mind kept hearing - "THe girl sheepishly looked at him" or She gazed at him affectionatley with a sheepish grin on her face."

i have this alot, especialy when I was younger. Sometimes have two people talking to each other in my head as well. I am not on meds at the moment, have decided to go all natural.

does anyone else have this happen to them??

wow. I used to have that all the time when I was younger (mid teens I suppose). I would never have thought anyone else did too. *see.. this is why I'm glad I found this forum.
It was like a constant narration of my life running through my head. It became very annoying yet confusing to me why I couldn't why I couldn't just stop doing it.
Funny thing is, I was just thinking yesterday about that. Really ironic.

I've also experience the completely "normal" internal dialogue. Sort of like a puppet show if you will. I'm completely aware I'm talking to myself, but it's a much more entertaining way to think.

Here's my not so educated take: Our brains get bored very easily. Therefore, said brain comes up with clever ways to make mundane tasks like thinking more exciting. Hence narration and internal dialogue between "two people".

I know what I mean. The real test is whether anyone else reading this will. :p

Our brains get bored very easily. Therefore, said brain comes up with clever ways to make mundane tasks like thinking more exciting.

Hit the magic number but do not significantly exceed it -

our boredom threshold.

The threshold increases for the ADDer (and hence the range) - and so we need more stimulation to engage ... where 'more stimulation' entails that any given task need elicit greater magnitude of neural recruitment or firing - all of this otherwise described though as ...

... in order to go about our daily dalliances

... our ...
brain [*need*] come up with clever ways to make mundane tasks
like thinking [about mundane tasks]
more exciting.

...or we are overcome with a powerful urge to

run!!! (away)

:-)

-*-

The sad Melon smiles ambiguously at her husband Cauli.

This is the very reason I have a radio on all the time. I can't stand the quiet because my brain goes into hyperdrive. I don't understand how people can work without background noise! Because otherwise the internal dialog goes crazy.

Internal dialogue is insane at times, with me people will se me carrying on conversations with people, like practicing what I am going to say and think I am delusional or something, it tends to be embarrassing

wow. I used to have that all the time when I was younger (mid teens I suppose). I would never have thought anyone else did too. *see.. this is why I'm glad I found this forum.
It was like a constant narration of my life running through my head. It became very annoying yet confusing to me why I couldn't why I couldn't just stop doing it.
Yeah, I did the narration-thing a lot when I was younger, too. I think you're right that it was all about boredom and adding more interesting stimuli to the mundane task of existence. I don't do the narration-thing anymore, probably because I have enough zillions of other things occupying my mind that I no longer need to do that.


I've also experience the completely "normal" internal dialogue. Sort of like a puppet show if you will. I'm completely aware I'm talking to myself, but it's a much more entertaining way to think.
I still do this a lot, but it also serves another purpose by helping me to function with really poor working memory. If I say something out loud and "converse" about it with myself, I'm able to think it through, and am more likely to remember it long enough to take whatever action is required - or at least get it written onto a list before the thought vanishes.


I am not on meds at the moment, have decided to go all natural. Hey 4got - what happened? I thought you were really psyched about the meds?

i read on the interent about the dangers of ritalin and people dying and increases in cancer and heart problems etc. so trying the natural approach. eating no cafiene of additives or colouring just straight veg and fruit and fish.

L-Tyrosine is good for the natural approach if you are looking for something that is "safer" than a stimulant, I can say that the things you read about with stimulant medications are rare as far as side effects are concerned and there are usually other factors involved as well, like misuse, pre-existing conditions etc.

I often catch myself having solo conversations out loud while I'm walking down the street. Sure, people think I'm nuts, but I'm not a danger to myself or anyone else. Really. :D

I've always had that f*ing annoying repeating in my head, i used to get it alot, still do essencially when doing boring tasks (digging, folding, cutting, well anything repetative) it jsut starts making up simple arithmetics of stupid words in my head till I'm about to go mad.
the worst is when its going on in my heasd and my lips start moving and I whisper the words under my breath, the same scentence or word repetativly, I never know ( still dont) how loud is was, wether it was audible, or not. I can see myself in 30 years, when my brain completely fries itself I'll be the hobo who walks down the street incessantly repeating the same words over and over and over and over again.

I'm even doing this now in front of the computer as if I'm having a live conversation.

How old are you TeLL? I'm in my late forties, been doing this all my life, and I haven't become that hobo - yet.

im still 18, yet it dosent seem a far stretch away for me:faint:

Didn't I read that literature intellect types are more likely ADD too? Or something along those lines. That seems like a reasonable link between the internal narration and being more inclined in the english lit/writing/poetry sense. I'm just musing as I have absolutely no idea.

When I read about that, I remembered when I enrolled in college I tested into the advanced english classes. It turned out to be my favorite class, which I attributed to having a fantastic teacher who's love for literature was very evident.

Unfortunately I didn't excel in it, I just made it through. Darn A.D.D. I'm looking forward to going back to school. What goals can I achieve NOW that I'm medicated and doing more in this short week than I've done in the last 7 or so years.

Sadly it just this moment hit me that it's been that long that "this" finally started knocking the wind out of my sails. I guess I trudged along oblivious up until then. Having kids must have done something to my mood.

*this: meaning that feeling of something not being right, not being like other people who seem to manage simple tasks effortlessly. That feeling of dispair when once again, that job sucks. Or, feeling like a failure because I can't even clean the house in one afternoon. (mostly because when I started, I decided the oven needed cleaning too and ended up spending the day with a toothbrush scrubbing all the crevices in the oven.) :rolleyes:

Sometimes have two people talking to each other in my head as well.

1 thread of linear thought.
(that's going up the stairs one stair at a time)

That's how mind starts its life.

For the mind to have come about - it must have possessed some character - which attracted evolution towards it.

So - the mind starts by going up 1 stair at a time from down- to up- stairs

and then it (the mind) evolves

-1-
and jumps up more than 1 stair at a time,
~then~
-2-
jumping either up or down either
-3-
1 or more stairs at a time
and then
-4-
jumping either up or down either 1 or more stairs at a time - simultaneously
-> 2 threads of nonlinear motion
-5-
-> 3 threads
-6-
-> 4 threads
-7- onwards
-> n threads of nonlinear motion

which translates to

-> n threads of nonlinear thought.

So - the mind begins (speciation of man) its life able to ascend 1 stair at a time in one direction
... becomes better at the process
and then modern man him and herself speciate
- with mind with the capacity to handle
n threads of nonlinear thought.

-*-

But but but - why can't we pay attention like the chappies over there in the nonADD box.

but but but ... ... ...

exactly :-)

... wouldn't wish a life of 9-5 drudgery within high rise boxes on anyone
rasiing the interesting question of

- so why are we doing it?

To recap then
:-)

we live for around 70 years and then we die
~
Most of that time is spent unhappy in boxes
~
We're on a planet in a huge Universe which pales into significance against whatever lies without
~
(perspective is everything here)
~
... and we wonder why we're feeling disordered?

We're disordered because we desperately want something better - whilst trapped within the legacy structures (social structures and systems) of our past.

ADD and contextual disorder.

(one good) (ADD)
(one bad) (the disorder)

... the bad which follows the good
- though only through guarantee that good will (just as certainly) follow the bad.

:-)

so smile

because although the sandwich filling is bad
... it's all good.

i read on the interent about the dangers of ritalin and people dying and increases in cancer and heart problems etc. so trying the natural approach.

Please discuss your concerns with your doctor. Much of what you see on the internet about the dangers of ritalin is not at all accurate. Taking meds is often less risky to an ADDer than not taking them.

I've always had that f*ing annoying repeating in my head, i used to get it alot, still do essencially when doing boring tasks (digging, folding, cutting, well anything repetative) it jsut starts making up simple arithmetics of stupid words in my head till I'm about to go mad.
the worst is when its going on in my head and my lips start moving and I whisper the words under my breath, the same scentence or word repetativly, I never know ( still dont) how loud is was, wether it was audible, or not. ....


Yikes! I do this. Even started a thread in which I described how I repeat myself a lot. Wonder if that's the connection.

Anyway, I often have the internal dialogue and repetition in my head with the same thought over and over. Usually not just a word, it will be a complete sentence. I think in sentences. I said that to a teacher once, who informed me that people don't think in complete sentences, they think in images. What he described sounded like a music video. (Sheesh, wonder what disorder he had???) I have that going on in my head too, but it is like the background noise that I attribute to my ADHD - my own thoughts are in complete sentences. The problem is that sometimes they get stuck and the same sentence repeats over and over!

I do the talking under my breath too. Or sometimes I make gestures like shrug my shoulders or wave my hands along with my internal dialogue. I've gotten some funny looks!

yea true...im just goin to try for a little bit and if it all turns to custard, will start back on it as soon as pos.

lol procrastin8 thats funny i do that as well
do u go over and over events that have happend in your life in the past or go over a dream or fantasy in your mind that hasnt actually happened over and over again..i do that at night sometimes (used to do it all the time when younger) while walking around in circle. it makes me feel good lol.
do all people think in words or images...i used to always wonder what it would be like to think in chinese or another language or what it would be like if you spoke 3 diff languages..if you could have a 3 way dialogue with 3 different languaged people talking in your mind.
one weird daydream I had when I was younger was pretending I was world famous guy...I even used to go to shops and pretend to shop for his clothes...how insane?
i was like 12 tho. Also used to sometimes speak in this language that I made up..had alot of times when I pretended to be someone else like someone from a different culture that I made up.
kind of weird...

lol procrastin8 thats funny i do that as well
do u go over and over events that have happend in your life in the past or go over a dream or fantasy in your mind that hasnt actually happened over and over again..i do that at night sometimes (used to do it all the time when younger) while walking around in circle. it makes me feel good lol.
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Yes, but without the walking in a circle. I may mentally go over something that happened very briefly, like a short conversation or a magazine article I read, over and over again. Or it might be just one small aspect of a larger event.

At night, I will replay a handful of short scenes from a fairy tale type fantasy over and over again. Just a few scenes that came from my imagination. It helps me fall asleep. I'd like to develop the scenes into a fantasy novel, but I never imagine anything other than the few bits of it, and those I repeat over and over until they really aren't that interesting!

I thought I was the only weird one!

nope defnitely not the only one :)
its quite a random thing to do though. i wonder if more people do it as well...?