im still debating if i should apply for mines? what do you all thing? :confused: i herd if you have it is good and bad at the same time

it's there if you really need it I guess.

i know but whats the up's and down's from having it?it's there if you really need it I guess.

The up's are that you have time to look into being less "disabled" i.e. skills, therapy etc. and the downs are the stigma attached and having to work part time when you want to work full time, having it be hard to find work. But another up would be that if you never wanted to work you really probably won't have to.

Is Adhd a "disability" and are you considering applying ONLY for the ADHD or do you have other disorders that contribute to the fact that you are thinking about applying? Just curious

i have adhd and i have learning disabilities alsoIs Adhd a "disability" and are you considering applying ONLY for the ADHD or do you have other disorders that contribute to the fact that you are thinking about applying? Just curious

gotcha thanksThe up's are that you have time to look into being less "disabled" i.e. skills, therapy etc. and the downs are the stigma attached and having to work part time when you want to work full time, having it be hard to find work. But another up would be that if you never wanted to work you really probably won't have to.

I was unaware that ADHD would be something you could get social security for..... I learn something new today. :)

that what my aunt said you can i didnt know eitherI was unaware that ADHD would be something you could get social security for..... I learn something new today. :)

You have to have more than just AD/HD to get SSI/SSDI

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/adhd-attention-deficit-social-security-disability.html

found this.... didn't check to see how accurate it was.. but looks like your aunt was right.

is learning disabiltie count?You have to have more than just AD/HD to get SSI/SSDI

thanks now i can read in to ithttp://www.disabilitysecrets.com/adhd-attention-deficit-social-security-disability.html

found this.... didn't check to see how accurate it was.. but looks like your aunt was right.

Getting SSI is generally very hard, usually you have to fight to get it and it can take years. Its not like you hand in the paperwork and its done. I work with lots of disabled people that are on SSI and they are becuase they are seriously ill, and when i say that I mean Hearing voices, seeing things, have to be on 15 kind of medications just to function in a semi normal daily life.

I beleive that you also have to "prove" that you are unable to work in any compacity for at least a year, but I might be wrong...... and I probably am.

I beleive that you also have to "prove" that you are unable to work in any compacity for at least a year, but I might be wrong...... and I probably am.What about if you are basically unemployable because of getting fired too many times or you don't have any good references??

over here anyone that doesnt have a job can apply for the dole. which is a benefit. only like $100-200 a week but alot of people use it esp here where i live.

that sucksGetting SSI is generally very hard, usually you have to fight to get it and it can take years. Its not like you hand in the paperwork and its done. I work with lots of disabled people that are on SSI and they are becuase they are seriously ill, and when i say that I mean Hearing voices, seeing things, have to be on 15 kind of medications just to function in a semi normal daily life.

i cant find work since mayI beleive that you also have to "prove" that you are unable to work in any compacity for at least a year, but I might be wrong...... and I probably am.

what im sayinWhat about if you are basically unemployable because of getting fired too many times or you don't have any good references??

luckyover here anyone that doesnt have a job can apply for the dole. which is a benefit. only like $100-200 a week but alot of people use it esp here where i live.

yeah its ok for people who need it but it makes for some pretty lazy *** people
http://newzealand.govt.nz/services?treeid=784

i got youyeah its ok for people who need it but it makes for some pretty lazy *** people
http://newzealand.govt.nz/services?treeid=784

You have to have doctors sign off on your disability papers for a decent chance. Your doctor has to feel like you can't work or are impared enough that you can't work like normal people.
You can work while on disability, but they take I think 1 dollor out of your check for ever 2 that you make.

If you do happen to get disability and other people feel like you don't need it, you will probably not be looked at in a good light.
I know when I am giving people information to people on the phone for programs my organization do I don't give people any extra sympathy for being on disability. I'm usualy thinking "why didn't you budget your money better, you know who much you get a month"...But I also talk to mass amounts of people who need help and cry on the phone with me. So my sensitivity is somewhat low.

What about if you are basically unemployable because of getting fired too many times or you don't have any good references??
I guess it would depend on the grouds for firing. Did those employers know that you had a disorder, and were the effects of the disorder what caused you to be terminated?

i wont qualify i guess this sucksYou have to have doctors sign off on your disability papers for a decent chance. Your doctor has to feel like you can't work or are impared enough that you can't work like normal people.
You can work while on disability, but they take I think 1 dollor out of your check for ever 2 that you make.

If you do happen to get disability and other people feel like you don't need it, you will probably not be looked at in a good light.
I know when I am giving people information to people on the phone for programs my organization do I don't give people any extra sympathy for being on disability. I'm usualy thinking "why didn't you budget your money better, you know who much you get a month"...But I also talk to mass amounts of people who need help and cry on the phone with me. So my sensitivity is somewhat low.

not fire i quit cause they where mean and rasist with me and won a court hiring with this when i quit got un employment but is not enoughI guess it would depend on the grouds for firing. Did those employers know that you had a disorder, and were the effects of the disorder what caused you to be terminated?

Having AD(H)D is not a way to gain disability, having AD(H)D and a low intelligence level is a way go gain disability. I'm really a ***** when it comes to this though so some may not like my views. And no marytza this isn't an attack on you, it's just my opinion about those who need it and those who only want it.

If you're looking for a reason to get disability then of course you can find a way, but I think most of us here are not here because we want to be held down and labeled as less or different but rather are looking for some ways to understand, cope and move ahead to success.

With the right mind set you can achieve any goal you set for yourself and the sad part is that means if your goal is to sit at home, eat cheetos, smoke pot and and play video games then yes you can find a way to do that. Yes if that is really what you want to do with your life then it's not my place or any others to say it's wrong; however, find a way to pay for your life style instead of expecting tax payers to pay for you sit on your *** until you meet someone who has that dream too and then start making babies left and right who will grow up to repeat the same cycle.

In short, if you need disability, if you cannot do more with yourself, if you truly have to get it then get an attorney and get it, but if you're just wanting it to avoid work or education then maybe you should talk to a counselor to find out why you're medicated but not motivated. It may be your raising, your morals or ethics and not just your disabilities.

im still debating if i should apply for mines? what do you all thing? :confused: i herd if you have it is good and bad at the same time

Well, shugga, I have been on disability for 2 years, but took me 2 years prior to get that. It's natural that they turn ya down the 1st time, they did me, but I appealed and went to court to get on it. I think it cause they wanna make sure you are infact disabled and not just a lazy person looking to live off the gov't tip :rolleyes: ....those typ'a shmuck just made it harder for the people who deserved it.

Well, anywho, in those 2 years waiting for the court date, & didn't work, I got a lawyer from Bender and Bender,...and only way I survived that far was cause mom was supporting me...feels great that i have such a cool mom and now I can help support the both of us.

I mean that is the headache I had to go through...but maybe you'd be lucky, but if not and you decide to appeal...to get by..it's best to have support from family.

GL whatever you decide hon ;)

Mary: you said you fight with your family members a lot. Sometimes people can have issues with interpersonal functioning to the point of it being a disability.

Sounds like SSDI needs multiple disabilities.

i live at parents house i cant support my self i can work but not enuogh to live in my own and not there to move out yet they sayWell, shugga, I have been on disability for 2 years, but took me 2 years prior to get that. It's natural that they turn ya down the 1st time, they did me, but I appealed and went to court to get on it. I think it cause they wanna make sure you are infact disabled and not just a lazy person looking to live off the gov't tip :rolleyes: ....those typ'a shmuck just made it harder for the people who deserved it.

Well, anywho, in those 2 years waiting for the court date, & didn't work, I got a lawyer from Bender and Bender,...and only way I survived that far was cause mom was supporting me...feels great that i have such a cool mom and now I can help support the both of us.

I mean that is the headache I had to go through...but maybe you'd be lucky, but if not and you decide to appeal...to get by..it's best to have support from family.

GL whatever you decide hon ;)

ya is in there moody weather sometimes they can be real cool sometimes they can be jerks it dependsMary: you said you fight with your family members a lot. Sometimes people can have issues with interpersonal functioning to the point of it being a disability.

Sounds like SSDI needs multiple disabilities.

I would not get legal advice from a forum of non lawyers, when it comes to a topic as legally serious about whether you qualify for a gov't pension or not.

You need REAL legal advice.

I suspect, from reading your posts, that you have ADHD, LD and more going on.

i have adhd and LD like what you mean more going on?I would not get legal advice from a forum of non lawyers, when it comes to a topic as legally serious about whether you qualify for a gov't pension or not.

You need REAL legal advice.

I suspect, from reading your posts, that you have ADHD, LD and more going on.

You won't really get much money and living/paying bills will be hard. It really isn't worth it. I would work everyday that I can just so I know that I am able to and can accomplish something. But if your ADHD/Learning disabilities seriously hinder you from gaining employment, then it is something to look into. It is not easy to get.

ahh ic thanksYou won't really get much money and living/paying bills will be hard. It really isn't worth it. I would work everyday that I can just so I know that I am able to and can accomplish something. But if your ADHD/Learning disabilities seriously hinder you from gaining employment, then it is something to look into. It is not easy to get.

I tried applying for SS a couple years ago to extend the money i was receiving for my father's passing. i remember the application was really long and tedious. it literally took my entire spring break.... then again, i do have ADD :P
but anyways, i was declined for it since they did not consider having ADD to be such a serious disability... even though the time, effort and money i consume coping with my problems are serious enough IMO.

i live at parents house i cant support my self i can work but not enuogh to live in my own and not there to move out yet they say


Then shugga...go for it...& gl...going to take a lot of paitence but dont let em give ya the run around and stick 2 yer guns
xoxoxo
Draga

I don't mean to sound stupid, but you seriously can't find ANY employment? You manage to operate a computer. At the very least I would think you could handle fast food industry; housekeeping; daycare center; telemarketing....

None require more than a high school education and all involve moving about and minimal reading skills, (*aside from telemarketing, but get a headset and dance for crying out loud, you're on the phone they wouldn't know you're dancing*). It's all mostly handsy stuff, which I personally excel at given my ADD.

I'm not going to poke my finger at you in particular, but I'm quite literally appalled that anyone would even consider living off taxpayers money because they have an attention deficit.

To me, a disability involves the actual and total inability to perform ANY kind of work. I've already researched possible career fields because I refuse to sit on my **** simply because I have ADD. To me it's not a disability, I just have a different way of getting to my goals than say my non-ADD husband.

I can't imagine sitting around collecting social security is going to do much for your self esteem or feeling of self worth either. I imagine initially it would be a riot sitting around watching tv all day because you are legally entitled to do so and get paid for it, but after awhile, IMHO, I'd guess you'd start to feel like sh*t. Or guilty.

I don't mean to sound stupid, but you seriously can't find ANY employment? You manage to operate a computer. At the very least I would think you could handle fast food industry; housekeeping; daycare center; telemarketing....

None require more than a high school education and all involve moving about and minimal reading skills, (*aside from telemarketing, but get a headset and dance for crying out loud, you're on the phone they wouldn't know you're dancing*). It's all mostly handsy stuff, which I personally excel at given my ADD.

I'm not going to poke my finger at you in particular, but I'm quite literally appalled that anyone would even consider living off taxpayers money because they have an attention deficit.

To me, a disability involves the actual and total inability to perform ANY kind of work. I've already researched possible career fields because I refuse to sit on my **** simply because I have ADD. To me it's not a disability, I just have a different way of getting to my goals than say my non-ADD husband.

I can't imagine sitting around collecting social security is going to do much for your self esteem or feeling of self worth either. I imagine initially it would be a riot sitting around watching tv all day because you are legally entitled to do so and get paid for it, but after awhile, IMHO, I'd guess you'd start to feel like sh*t. Or guilty. Don't be so quick to judge. If you don't have the best, most stable, 'linear' job history due to ADHD then you may not be able to find employment.

And believe me, it is easier to have this problem when you are in your early 20's. Try being over 30 & unemployed or having to explain having 3 jobs in 5 years. But the time one gets the treatment & the meds, it may be too late to save ones career or be able to find any employment.

Maybe you haven't looked around in a while, but hiring these days is done based on personality, some intangible 'fit', & chemistry, NOT really based on skills on experience. If you have the typical jumpy employment history due to ADHD, Misdiagnosed ADHD (many docs still refuse to acknowledge that ADHD exists), or that dreaded employment gap don't expect to find employment (any) any time soon. It is easy to judge someone when you are employed & you can have every consumer posession (and the debt) at your whim.

I know how hard it is. I have a BA degree in Accounting, MS in Finance, & over 5 years experience. But I always have to take the first job that comes along that usually sucks & then I get fired and it is the vicious circle all over again.

I am only employed because I have had to lie & fabricate my way to get a job.

It's always burns me up when I think back to my ITT tech days...someone gave me advice about Job interviews "Just be yours....on second thought...dont be yourself." and even counselors told me to make sure I not let my ADHD & bipolar slip to the interviewer, well exsqeeze me but I have spent too long accepting who I am and what I have to deal with to the point I am not ashamed of it and I refuse to hide the real me for one second just to appease someone I dont even know just for a job where I will be working my butt off so they can get more $$$$*(a job assesment program said that your main goal was to make the boss money( some kinda crap like that)

To not be hired because of mental disorders is a crime but not one that is easily proved. Heh I made a deal with the real world when I went on disability, you stay out of my face and I'll stay out of yours.:D

I was on disability and it was not hard to get, my mother received it on my behalf as a child, and I remember forms a phone call and the guy saying you'll get it in a few months, my history is the only thing that made it easy but I also have 4 diagnoses (Axis I's) and I know that you need that to get it. They check functioning levels and a lawyer will most likely get the benefits for you easier.

You will lose your unemployment if you get SSI.

Having AD(H)D is not a way to gain disability, having AD(H)D and a low intelligence level is a way go gain disability. I'm really a ***** when it comes to this though so some may not like my views. And no marytza this isn't an attack on you, it's just my opinion about those who need it and those who only want it.

If you're looking for a reason to get disability then of course you can find a way, but I think most of us here are not here because we want to be held down and labeled as less or different but rather are looking for some ways to understand, cope and move ahead to success.

With the right mind set you can achieve any goal you set for yourself and the sad part is that means if your goal is to sit at home, eat cheetos, smoke pot and and play video games then yes you can find a way to do that. Yes if that is really what you want to do with your life then it's not my place or any others to say it's wrong; however, find a way to pay for your life style instead of expecting tax payers to pay for you sit on your *** until you meet someone who has that dream too and then start making babies left and right who will grow up to repeat the same cycle.

In short, if you need disability, if you cannot do more with yourself, if you truly have to get it then get an attorney and get it, but if you're just wanting it to avoid work or education then maybe you should talk to a counselor to find out why you're medicated but not motivated. It may be your raising, your morals or ethics and not just your disabilities.
Good advice and I agree, there are people who have much worse disabilities, like vets returing from protecting this country with no limbs, eyesight, etc., or people born with severe handicaps, etc., who deserve to be supported. I can't see tax dollars going to support those who just don't want, or don't like to work, or find it difficult, sorry.

Mary: you said you fight with your family members a lot. Sometimes people can have issues with interpersonal functioning to the point of it being a disability.

Sounds like SSDI needs multiple disabilities.You've got to be kidding? :faint:

Lets do try to disagree without being totally disagreeable - or rude.

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You will lose your unemployment if you get SSI.


Seeing that in order to continue receiving unemployment here in the US, one has to provide "proof" that another job is actively being sought it seem like receiving these two at the same time would be "contradictory"

By the way Marytz I also have ADD and severe dyslexia {which is a learning disability} and I do not receive disability - frankly I have never considered myself disabled just different. I don't stay at jobs a long time but I do manage to support myself one way or another. My spouse is so ADHD he can NOT work for other people so he works for himself - his business supports us and five animals - it pays for trips and such so their are ways to make money legally without having to work for other people.


Please do note different countries are going to have different rules, I noticed we have responses from three different countries which is way cool but it is worth noting where the other member is from before firing of that "your completely wrong" response.

I apologize if I offended anyone, I fired off an answer based on emoation instead of thinking about being more discrete in answering.

Cheers,

I apologize if I offended anyone, I fired off an answer based on emoation instead of thinking about being more discrete in answering.

Cheers,
Personally based on what I read, I doubt that pertained to you.

Hello,

I was just reviewing these post and I am a counselor who works with individuals with disabilities to help obtain employment. I am wondering if the reason why you are wanting to apply for Social Security is because you are unable to keep a job and if you have ever worked with Vocational Rehabilitation to assist you in getting work. I am not sure what state you are in but if you are not familiar with Voc rehab this is a state agency that assist people with disabilities to help them obtain services needed so that they can find an maintain employment. This is a state and federally funded program so it should be free to you. If you have already gone this route and feel Social Security is your only option then go ahead and apply but remember as stated earlier in the thread it takes a long time two year most of the time. We tell our consumers I work with to APPEAL APPEAL APPEAL. Its a long process but worth it in the end. I read somewhere that you cant work with Social Security..you can work and there are options either part or full time. The best thing to do is to contact your social security office and maybe see if there are benefits analysis available to you to have someone review your benefits so that you have a full understanding of them. Good Luck

Vocational Rehabilitation to assist you in getting work. I am not sure what state you are in but if you are not familiar with Voc rehab this is a state agency that assist people with disabilities to help them obtain services needed so that they can find an maintain employment.

I think this is a good idea - This is a government agency here in the US run by the state? Am I reading your post correctly?

I have heard of vocational rehab services that deal with people recovering from addictions ect. . . . but I was not aware that their services were available to any one having problems finding employment.

So is vocational rehabilitation services state of {where ever one lives} the agencies name to look this service up under or is it part of the employment commission? I am asking so members from the US who are in the same boat as the member who wrote the inital post can locate this service via their telephone directory.

I ended up becoming an exotic dancer for 10 years, but for the first five i didn't know that i was ADD. After finding this out at 25, I skirted the issue for another 5 years. I'am trying to figure out how i will get by because i'm so sick of dancing. I have a couple vocational degrees both of which aren't a good fit, but of course i jumped right in not knowing they aren't really a good fit. I feel really paralyzed by my disorder, no confidence, but i don't want to have to go on disability. I have bipolar II as well which further complicates things. I have my first appointment with a phsyciatrist coming up so i have some hope that my meds will be changed and i will be more stable emotionally at least. Sorry if im sounding pathetic and sorry for myself, I can't help it today.

I ended up becoming an exotic dancer for 10 years, but for the first five i didn't know that i was ADD. After finding this out at 25, I skirted the issue for another 5 years. I'am trying to figure out how i will get by because i'm so sick of dancing. I have a couple vocational degrees both of which aren't a good fit, but of course i jumped right in not knowing they aren't really a good fit. I feel really paralyzed by my disorder, no confidence, but i don't want to have to go on disability. I have bipolar II as well which further complicates things. I have my first appointment with a phsyciatrist coming up so i have some hope that my meds will be changed and i will be more stable emotionally at least. Sorry if im sounding pathetic and sorry for myself, I can't help it today.Anyway you might be able to get into other forms of dancing that might mean more to you? I wish you the best of luck on your meeting.

Hello,

Here is a link to click ontil that will take you to the vocational Rehabilitation agencies for the fifty states. Some are not connected but you type in the name of the agency you should be able to find the contact information.


http://www.parac.org/svrp.html

As for other countries I guess check with your contries government page to see if there are any links or with whatever service that is used for employment.

Hope that helps

Sunflower

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/adhd-attention-deficit-social-security-disability.html

found this.... didn't check to see how accurate it was.. but looks like your aunt was right.This article is information about applying for disability for children aged 3 - 18 years old.