How manytimes have you said, "Darnet get out of my head!"?
Ok this has been a lil cooky but I have noticed that we ADD people sometimes has the same thoughts as other ADD people. It's almost like we can read each others minds. Sometimes not just ADD people sometimes I can read the Non ADDers as well. We ADD people share the same disablities, some more than others, but do we also share the same minds?

Me and mom(ADD too) think the same thoughts at the same time,
but there could be two explainations for that..we live together so we pretty much know what the other is thinking....we have a ADD link.

Now on the other hand, I do not live with any, but in some post, I can guess what you are going to say before I read it. It's the same with ADD room..even in chat we sometimes type the same things at the same time or if not one of us is thinking it.

This has facinated me for some time now..Can we share a link in our minds?

Any thoughts?

Of course we can understand what the other ADDers mean to say,sometimes even before the other knows themselves.......Its a gift that only we can share......besides know one else could possibly understand what we really mean, especially when we don;t seem to know until the thought comes out ourselves,GOT that>Good i knew ya would..........now will somebody please COMPLETE this thought! because i know thumbuddy else out there is on the same wavelength as I.........LOL

LOL foto....I bet you think about you kid or if not, you will be when you read this;)

Better yet I know you are thinking about cynde and her kidney stones I am so glad she is ok and I miss her bunches!

I don't always know what someone is thinking exactly. But, I feel other people's emotions. That is one of the reasons I am such a loner. It drives me crazy. I am super sensitive to thier aura. I can't stand it when I go somewhere in a perfectly good mood, get thier and start feeling anger, hate, confusion, love, pain from someone else. I have goten beeter at blocking it. But, sometimes the real strong emotions break thru my barrier. I once walked into this church and just sat down and bawled, the lady in the pew next to me was so stricken with grief (Although hidind it well) that I had to move away from her. Later I found out that a long time friend of hers had died and she was just coming to grios with it. Point is, reading minds can be good and bad.

When I'm around my sisters and their children, that happens to me all the time. I'll hear a word or words in my head, and before I can even say it, one of them says it! (Need I say that ADD is rampant in my family? ;) ) I can sometimes experience the same with close friends, and the dh, but with non-ADD types it certainly happens less often.

Sixes don't look at it as a curse,...think of it as a gift..although it may drive you crazy sometimes. I guess it can be good and bad. You has a point there

I have found that with Non Adders it is harder to read their thoughts, but sometimes their faces..you need not read their thought..sometimes those nudnicks are so transparent.

Oh my gosh Sixes!! I do the same thing!! I feel people's emotions, where it becomes a major problem for me, is when someone gets angry but decides not to talk about it, and I can feel they are angry and make them talk about it anyways. I mean, I'm ADD, and I get frustrated over silly things, why can't others?? Also my roommate is very depressed and if I'm with him too long, I also get depressed... its a toughy.

Wow That part of our ADD makes us unique and special I find:D Both sences!

I am more intune with other's I don't know if it's actually considered mind reading though. I've been known to leave my hubby standing alone while I go and talk to someone. lol

here is the standard discussion after:
Why didn't you introduce me?
I don't know her name
Then why did you just spend the last half hour talking to her?
Cause she needed me too

lol leaves him completly baffled: but I have a theory. When your mind is focused on a task your sense's close to outside stimuli but an ADD'ers mind is alway's open therefore so are the sense's

Hmmm very intersting futs! That part about Doug may not be mind reading that is just marriage ;) LOL

NO mel I never said he couldn't read my mind *giggles* wink wink

LOL I guess in some situations like that they could read your mind cause god knows they are on the same wavelength of wink wink!

FYI Today was an amazing ADD link day...At the same time either she would say something I was just thinking or I would say something she was just thinking....not just once but 6 times today!!!! I really am believing more about the Link between us ADD people!

lol shup you

LOL make me!

*evil laugh* is that a challenge?

YES it is! The point I am trying to make my dear futs, is that if there is a possibility of an ADD link be it thought or sences of feeling or even visions well that makes ADD all the more special and seperates us from the norms. That is something to smile about!

I toy with they idea that early humans had more of a linked conciousness, and our extreme verbal language development among other things led us away from that.
It is known that asperger people as well as autism often lack what is called "Theory of Mind" That would be where they would assume another person would know for instance that they put say an object in a certain place even though that other person wasn't there to see where the object was placed. Which leads me to believe that some peoples minds still feel/think linked. There is a lot more stuff that corrolates what I am trying to explain but my brain feels very unfocusable right now.

I often feel I know what people are going to say and feeling. And am so often right. I also blurt out things for no reason but it came to mind like a stangers birthdate. Kind of freaky.
Recently a person called me, because he thought I paged him.
It turned out he read the number wrong, so I was on a long drive and bored so I kept this stranger on the phone. We had a great conversation. I was joking and said ,, let me think.. your 49 and have brown hair and are about 5' 11". He freaked and wondered how I knew. I told him I used to work for a carnival, I didn't really. Well I didn't know, dumb luck. If you think a lot and guess a lot you are bound to get somethings right? Or was I phycic??
I also get the bottom line of jokes right off and can not therefore appropiately laugh at the end. Which is embarassing, and oftentimes I can't focus long enough to get the joke.
j9

Janine, that is very cool:D Sometimes I get visions of things that eventually happen..if not the actual vision then something simular the funny thing is Being ADHD I day dream alot so I never know what is daydream and which is a premonition. Figures that MY mind would me tricky

Ok ..freaky...I posted this back in Feb.....have not seen it in maybe a good 6 months...but I thought about this thread last night and here it is today out of the blue....SHWEEET!

I toy with they idea that early humans had more of a linked conciousness, and our extreme verbal language development among other things led us away from that.j9
I absolutely love your theory, and it makes perfect sense to me. I think people who operate on an intuitive level are tuned into something much bigger and older than the here and now ... for example, in college I had an art professor who explained that basic symbols in art are understood across all cultures, regardless of language, religion, geography, etc.... in other words, when someone in any culture thinks about the concept of a circle, it always symbolizes unity, completeness, the eternal -- as human beings, we just know that. Those visual symbols are part of the collective unconcious.

I think people who are ADD are still tapped into that global "linked conciousness" as you so wonderfully put it, and so we understand so much without having to have it spelled out for us --we just know.

Ok ..freaky...I posted this back in Feb.....have not seen it in maybe a good 6 months...but I thought about this thread last night and here it is today out of the blue....SHWEEET!so, does that mean i *pass*?!
:D

I thought I was the only one.I've always since i was a kid could sense someones loneliness,anger or just by talking to them i knew there was something there and i always wanted to find out what(curiosity)is it an add thing too?Cause i'm so curiuos about how things work,people feel.i remember a girl in t.v ,she had lost her husband to colon cancer and i hardly watched the show,but before her husband died i just knew something was different about her and later i found out that her husband had cancer.I observe people too much probally!

I think the reason we can think the same thoughts at the same time .....Like we are all twins who are linked..My Brutha's and Sista's LOL cause we are so much alike...Like we always say.....Great Minds think alike.

Anne, Aint it great knowing you are not alone....:D BTW welcome to the forums :)

The ADD link is one of the many things that make having ADD Special....and it's not just thinking alike, it's also like you said Anne, knowing things are going to happen before they do...Ex

When I was working the Drive Thru at my Job, the building next to me was just about to open a new resturant, and I seen this guy on this long on a long platform painting the side, and this vision popped in my head of the platform falling with him on top.

Sure enough within moments, the platform collapsed and he went down with it.....But he did not get hurt thank goodness.

I thought it was just a daydream when I saw it happen in my head(daydream alot), I find them to be more when they actually happen....I believe in signs and always have a gut instinct that a certain happening or coinsidence means more than just what it seam...Whether they are warnings or enlightenment I only wish I could learn how to channel it....I have made many a mistake in my life mistaking one for the other..Things that should not have happened because it was a warning. :eek:

I think first of all that ADDers are more sensitive. As a whole we seem to react more to sights, sounds, smell, touch, etc. For example, smell. People's emotional and mental states result in chemical reactions that produce different smells. Most people can't detect this, but maybe we can can on a subconciuos level. Animals with a highly tuned sense of smell certainly can. We may also be able to detect body language and vocal intonations that others miss. And it also seems logical that we would be more sensitive to other signals such as brain waves.

The brain produces an electromagnetic field. So who is to say that cannot be detected?

I personnaly also subscribe to the idea that we are all part of a single larger consciousness. Call it Original Source, Kanagara, Tao, Buddah Mind, or whatever. But I think we are all part of the same mind (God?). But most people cannot sense this without training such as prayer or meditation. Maybe we are more sensitive to it?
We all may be of one mind, but we are not of one bank account. So I better get back to work.

Those are good possibilities....as well...the spiritual aspect of ESP plays a big role in it.

I can't read minds but I'm sure people can read mine!!! Actually I have been prescribed medication for having such a delusion!

I can sense other people feelings even if they are strangers. I have felt telepathy between my daughters and me, but direct mind reading, where you know the exact thoughts in the exact words, I don't think so.

Not so much of mind reading it's both same thoughts linked between two people and sometimes visions in my head that eventually happen.

I don't get a whole lot of mind reading episodes; I do get a fair number of deja vu's.

Doesn't Jung's view of psychology have a "collective unconscious", shared by all humans? Maybe the "regulatory dysfunction" we're supposed to have leaves more of our personal psyche in touch with the collective unconscious.

Back when I didn't believe in ADHD, I liked to think that my ADHD was actually mental telepathy. It was comforting...but ridiculous. Heh

Not so Ridiculos now eh?

wow this is very strange, i posted in another thread about my weird "abilities" but did not realize that others shared this. I have a ability to know others , their motives,i can feel them. I sense pain very well, i can almost touch the pain. It's really eerie. I always thought that maybe i was paranoid or just having grandiose ideas about myself but who knows?

As usual You are not alone sweetie, :)

This is so interesting. I am so intuitive, I just know things and it freaks my husband out. A while ago I met a friend of his who was visiting from London, I had never met her, after spending about 10 minutes with her my hubby and I were in the bedroom getting ready to go out and I told him that Sue was pregnant. Just mark my words she is pregnant. Three days later she told us that she was pregnant and had just found out the day before she arrived and hadn't even told her husband yet. Also when my sister was pregnant with her second child I was having a dream and was sobbing in it, my husband woke me up and asked me what was the matter, I told him that I was crying because I just saw my new nephew. In my dream I was running down the hospital corridor hoping to get there in time to see her give birth and she was standing at the end of the hall and turned around and showed me her new son. My husband and I glanced at the clock and then went back to sleep. About 1 hr later she called and told me that she had given birth to a son - and the time was within a minute or two of when my husband woke me up. I didn't now she was expecting a boy and I didn't know she was in labor before I went to bed. I also dream of people I haven't seen in years and then I always see them within a few days. This are just a few examples of things that happen all the time...Very strange....

WOW!!!!!! Deb...That is AWESOME!!!!! :D

I've been toying with a theory regarding this one for a little while now. (actually, I've got a few, but another time perhaps ;) )

I'd read that the area of the brain responsible for "theory of mind" (ie. picking up the intentions of others or "putting yourself in their shoes"/empathy) is actually located in a different section of the brain in persons diagnosed with ADHD, a little higher in the frontal lobes than usual (about behind the middle of the forehead, if I remember correctly, instead of behind around the bridge of the nose). What I seemed to understand from what I read (if I can find the paper I'll post it) is that it seemed that the (usual) centre for theory of mind in persons with ADHD was inactive, but nevertheless they can posess a high amount of empathy (oft times more than the usual person), and had an effective theory of mind, anyway.

This idea coupled with the whole "morphic resonance"/"100th monkey phenomenon" theory (also known as collective unconcious from what I understand) leads me to think perhaps those with ADHD may be more in tune with this "collective unconcious" at times maybe?


Kind regards,

-Crash-Dr

:) I would love to read that....And I very much so think you are right about being in tune...The ADD Link is just one of the many things about ADD that makes it more special :)

I think this is the paper I was referring to: ( URL edited by moderator...please review forum guidelines for posting URL's)
Not sure though, it may have been a different one again referencing this study. Anyways, it should be an interesting read nonetheless ;)

Regards,

-Crash-Dr

Thanks for the link! I do think our different wiring has a lot to do with this. I find it most interesting that we tend to have trouble with social interactions due to missing things that are obvious to others, while simultaneously picking up on things that a "normal" would never be able to detect. It took me quite a few years (and marriage to a non-ADD type) for me to realize that my perceptions of the world around me are very, very different from other people's.

Interesting thread Mel

Debs, welcome to the forum!

Reading Debs post reminded me of a few dreams that came true
The most fun one was when my brother stationed overseas planned a surprise visit
Well that night I woke up and told my grandmother exactly what my brother would be wearing (cut off jean shorts, barefoot etc-just a little different from his AF uniform;))
Where he was, how he approached us etc for his 'surprise'

Well low and behold I sure deflated his sails as he ran out to my grandmother's car wearing exactly what I said and my grandma was crying ‘Letta dreamed this I didn’t believe her!’
So that turkey, when I drove up he sat in our mom's house instead of running out to me! Hah!

I've also freaked out twice thinking that my two oldest were in danger, both times were true. I ignored (and it was very difficult, but I kept telling myself I was silly, at a temp job where I was trying to impress folks, etc-so I forced myself NOT to call the school) my then 6th grade son had broken out half his front tooth and the school had lost my new job's phone #:( He was in pain for hours.

So from that experience I swore never again to ignore any 'weird' feelings.
When my daughter rolled her car 4 times I did NOT ignore the feelings and tracked her down as she was being hauled to the ER by EMTs.

On a funny note Melly’s visualizing the guy painting’s mishap reminds me of another time.

Once my X had just taken off for a day on his motorcycle. I told my brother “IF he’s going to see a girl, like I think he is, I hope he takes a turn too fast” Then I quickly tried to recant my weird thinking and said “I don’t want him to get hurt, this is just silly”. Within half an hour he was back gotten a ride from someone and his bike was messed up. He had hit some gravel on the specific turn I had mentioned. After hearing what my brother told him that butthead made a point on staying out all night and called me a ‘Witch’ with new feeling after that.

Weird huh

My father, lord rest him warns me of things in my dreams....I had a dream once(liong story short) that I had a choice to go with my Now exB/f or go with my family and I turned my back on family and went with him....Two years later I did infact turn my back on family and ran away with him ...Regret it to this day.

Dad did also send me other warnings....biut I don't want to talk about it cause to traumatic to think of.:(

Melly,

Feels good to actually meet others who have had these experiences.

So many folks I KNOW will feel it's/I'm wacked or whatever so only family pretty much knows



I've had Christian friends tell me it's got to be an evil calling or some such because folks aren't able to contact you after death.

I cannot explain it and don't feel evil myself I can only downplay the importance &/or possibilities to these doubters and assure them maybe it's just my mind---after knowing & being close to someone and knowing how they think, maybe I project those thoughts in my dreams as coming from them.
Is probably the most likely explanation in my case.


I only have had two experiences of these sorts, one was of my X's dad on the night he died, we were vacationing @ Bluegrass Festival and I just felt like he was next to me asking me to 'be kind' to his son. Well he died that night and I could NOT talk my X into going home early even though his mom would not pick up her phone--she didn't want to wreck our vacation with sad news!



The other time in a dream my Aunt came to tell me her daughter 'would be ok'. Now this was disappointing to my cousin because her mom and family truly believed in the other side/life as in weegie boards and all that stuff that gives me the shivers. They had made a pact with each other they would always get in touch with each other. My cousin was furious with her mom's death and hated that I had a dream comforting me about her.



Oh well so I'm weird

NO You're Not...if you are weird than I am weird...But we are not...It's a gift and not evil...In "Truth in Dreams" in short story section tells of the first time Dad contacted me and it changed outlook on life....How can that be evil? Weird thing is..is the gut vibes I have...i was playing solitare one night and the three 6's came up more than often...and I got a vibe something bad was going to happen...next day...dad goes in the hospital the last time...I just wish I knew how to channel it and know when it is a vibe, a warning, a premonition, or just one of my usuall day dreams...Ya know?

Draga {QUOTE} I just wish I knew how to channel it and know when it is a vibe, a warning, a premonition, or just one of my usuall day dreams...Ya know? {QUOTE}

Yep I know. I know I've tried to ignore it and never will again when it comes to my kids.
Kinda feeling shaky that I actually wrote stuff online that I've only told a few souls.

Kinda feels good though too, free therapy, gotta love it:)

Thanks for understanding Melly!

Anytime Shug...Best free therapy known is free kind that works...hehe! When it comes to the ex & my family....Me must remember to be on guard just incase not

I feel reactions. Especially from one friend who happens to be BP. Something upsetting is said and this... WAVE comes from her and goes WHAM! into me. A bit scary actually. Anyone else get this kind of thing?
rainraven

Yes .....very much so with a ot of people.....I feel their hurt....and it's Very Intense.

(Waving my hand while useing the jedi mind trick)
These arnt the droids your looking for....
(Waving my hand while useing the jedi mind trick)
You want to deposit a large amount of money into my account....
(Waving my hand while useing the jedi mind trick)
You find me highly Attractive.......;)

LMAO! Well I u look anything like Young Ben Kanobi or Liam Neeson.....PUUUURRRRR *blushes*

Just a moment ago,I knew what he was fixin' to say and sure enough, He tells me " it don't count unless I say before it happens," when I tell him I knew that was going to happen or something on the nature. What, I try not to think out loud as it is and you want me to tell you all the thoughts running threw my head. When ever a thought goes threw my head about a busted screen at work "I print pictures on cd's" It happens, it drives me nuts cuz its not like I can take back the thought or something. Rewind and be quiet this time.LOL I found this site last nite, I'm just going to drop off a few lines, well and then some, gypsy I have wondered a lot about this subject. All my life I thought differently and would come up with answers in a different way. My analogy would always be different then someone else would see something even when we would be seeing the correct answer. Out of 6 kids in the faimly, I was in the 4th grade when we all had "I.Q." tests done. I did the best, yet I was the one getting in trouble, with the teacher's, usually the most aggrivating in the class. But the one thing that has always made me stand out, is my intuitiveness. As long as I don't get put on the spot where, I have time to get nervous I'll be wrong, I guess right on with things. Really read people well, can tell things about them. There is not a day I don't know things before they happen, and have had days, I see most everything. Sometimes these things can freak me out, I've been in situations taking my mom's ritalin "she is narcoleptic" where I have been in pubic places and I am so intune with everyone I have sat and told people what was going on with total stragers, "watch he's going to go do this and then stop and do this, and look this one's da. da. da." Like I am hearing them talk to me but not in a normal way, Does this make sense. Have had dreams about cituations then they happen. Is this normal? Is it the fact my mind slides into different areas of the brain that allows such a thing and I am aware of it. I do feel if you can learn to be quiet your innerself will tell you things. the same with the physical part, more than once I have gotten an answer to a physical problem through a dream. And what about the weird things that I tend to see on and off all my life? My Dear Mother whom is extreamly religious and intellegent got stumped during a conversation about ghosts and the different experiences I have had all my life, she said why do you worry about it anyway, I said plainly "That's just it I don't worry about it, but if there is a God why would he put me on this earth, being the way I am, and then put something in front of me, or have happen to me and not understand what it is. I can get very lonly at times, I want to talk to people about what goes on in my mind, but feel people just see me as "flighty" Would love any insight on this, I'm 39 and have just recently realized I was severe ADHD, and don't know where to even start, as for someone to talk to, I've always had a hard time explaining when I get nervous, I'll get forgetful and fumble over words or transverse them. I've thought about maybe writing down a profile of my life printing out my tests results I've took on the web, where I score real high on all of them and just walk in somewhere and had it to them and say I have ADHD, please read this, then can help me out... I personnaly also subscribe to the idea that we are all part of a single larger consciousness. Call it Original Source, Kanagara, Tao, Buddah Mind, or whatever. But I think we are all part of the same mind (God?). But most people cannot sense this without training such as prayer or meditation. Maybe we are more sensitive to it? I have felt the same way I could go on and on about this, I do feel, somehow we use our senses in more then just one way, like everything else we do, if we try and put to much thought into it we get fogged up with thoughts. I wish I could center myself too.
I went back and read more of this thread and I'm tripping on how we relate on this level. I can tell you in the past hour so much has flowed through my head. One of the craziest is. My sister-in-law, whom I'm extremely intune with "AMAZINGLY" she met my brother through me, and we have the craziest relationship. I talked to her about some of my ideas, ( I'm an artist, and Love to create, making functionable things, out of otherwise not) and we could have read just went on and on saying what each other was seeing and feeling and thinking, After about a hour into this amazing conversation, and 3 hugs from her I stoped and looked at her and said "my God your as ADHD as I am" just as calmly and I look at her profile as it nods up and down, with her smirk set stairing out in space. Yep she said, I asked her how long she has know this, and she said "ever since she heard about it" She has never said this, and I've never really understood, what it was all about, And we have had some deep conversations about things, and why we were like we were. Last year during a weekend Music festival My sister-in-law was on a high, just the emotional high of where we were and being with me too, We were walking through a crowd of 1,000's and Jill's skipping, along smiling and saying hello to strangers, driving my "reserved" brother crazy, I turned at him and I said again " my God, shes everything that used to drive you crazy about me, when we were growing up" ( he used to swear he was never going anywhere with me again, because I embarrece him) and he turned to me and smiled and said "Yeah, and thats one of the things that turned me on about her too..." That was the most special moments I've ever had with him, and will all ways take that as the Highest complaiments, Because I think she is a speciel person too

Draga, that is so interesting, you pointing out the mind-reading thing, especially with other ADDers. I never believed in that until just a few weeks/months ago. I have been surprized/shocked when it happens. I wonder if now, after you have affirmed this ability to me, if I will be able to improve somehow? Are there other groups of people that are known to have these ablilities/gifts more than ADDers?

That's interesting Question I know I am Bipolar as well so maybe it also is atributed.....Google is Me friend so maybe can do research on that....thanks shug

you got me started Draga:
even though I found absolutely no studies regarding groups of folks with intuition...alot of mentions though including ADD/HD & bipolar, but nothing real conslusive. I thought I'd share what I found interesting along the way

There are, we've been told for generations, two distinct ways of knowing: the cool, methodical path of reason and... ...the abrupt, electrical flash of intuition. .., we've sensed the difference between the seer's penetrating vision and the expert's detailed knowledge.
But today scientists are challenging that ancient dichotomy.

Expertise and intuition, they believe, are not separate phenomena but "aspects of the same thing." ... one .. group of researchers busily stripping intuition of its mystique.
They reject the view that intuition is an inexplicable personal gift, explaining it instead as the predictable product of the way experts think. And their work suggests another,
even bigger surprise: Intuition may be an ability that individuals can work toward and organizations can foster.

ok does this sound like hyper-focusing?
intuitive people share one essential trait: They are experts in particular, if in some cases limited, fields of knowledge... In fact, people appear to be intuitive precisely because--and to the extent that--they possess expertise. Mastery of a field, these psychologists argue, is what makes intuitive thought possible. Whether an area of specialization is considered to be learned knowledge makes no difference. Those who've mastered the peculiarities of a certain make of engine access their expertise in the same fashion as a college professor

sorry got bored with those 2 sites, easily distracted ya know

From an extensive study of intuitive people, these are the traits they're most likely to have.

Says she was born with psychic ability and can point out a parent or grandparent who displayed a lot of it too.
Tendency toward bilateral dominance (two-handedness or two sidedness).
Tendency to be a night owl and sleep very little with frequent interruptions in sleep.
Presence of some talent and experience in the arts, often in more than one modality (music, dance, art, theater, poetry, design, etc.).
Tendency to be a little dyslexic or else an exceptional student and sometimes both. Greater than average chance of having a photographic memory or total recall.
Lots of experience as a mediator--formal or informal.
Tendency to experience phases of temporary endocrine system dysfunction popping up and then subsiding (thyroid gland, adrenals).
Powerful need to spend time alone or in nature on a regular basis.

STUDY...
identified 24 people who had experienced vastly different kinds of intuition: eight psychotherapists from different schools who had intuitions either about themselves or their patients; an economist who used intuition to find errors in research reports; an astrophysicist who intuitively came up with a new understanding of quantum mechanics; two artists (a photographer and a painter)whose work had been shaped by creative intuitions; and finally a group of people who had experienced intuitions in daily life, including a woman who knew from a distance that her Paris apartment was on fire.
...In other words, a pattern emerged.

A Gesture of Letting Go, or deep rooting, or interior self-collecting, that is, a slowing down of mental activity, which makes it possible to reach the intuitive state of consciousness (described in 22 of 24 interviews). For some, access to this calm state was facilitated by daily practices such as meditation, prayer, or visualization. For others, it came about through renunciation, when the person "hit bottom" and opened up, while for still others intuition came at the moment between waking and sleep.<SCRIPT language=JavaScript>var bnum=new Number(Math.floor(99999999 * Math.random())+1);document.writeln("/imgs/contd.gif (#cont)
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Gesture of Connection, which makes it possible to enter into contact with the object of the intuitive knowledge: another human being, an abstract problem, a situation (described 14 times).

Gesture of Listening, with an attention that is at the same time panoramic and very discriminating (described 13 times). The attention that characterizes intuitive listening is above all turned inward to internal processes. It means listening to the repercussions of the sensations, the thoughts of the other inside oneself. "I focus on myself in order to receive the echo of the other." Listening in a receptive way means not trying to recognize the sensations or identify them immediately, or to pull out the information at all costs

The Pre-Intuition
Those who have had the most experience with intuition are most likely to report an "empty passage," or moment of confusion, obscurity, or silence preceding the intuition. The intuition can surge forth as an image, a kinesthetic sensation, a sound, a word, or even a taste or an odor, most often in several simultaneous or successive forms.

Personal Thresholds
The intuition does not always emerge in an immediately understandable form. Most often it caresses the consciousness as a hazy image, a vague sensation. The threshold of awareness of the sensation varies considerably from one person to another and essentially depends on the degree of practice in pre-intuitive gestures. The more a person practices bringing on the calm and listening with the special mode of attention that characterizes intuitive listening, the more precocious will be the awareness, the more subtle will be the sensations received. According to the people with the most experience, intuitions are always present; the only variable is the attention we bring to them

ok got booted off net, better stop
somebody stop me

Bless you Charlie....That's awesome :D

Your welcome I really like the last sentence

According to the people with the most experience, intuitions are always present; the only variable is the attention we bring to them

So we'uns that experience this ain't necessarily wacko, we're just RECEPTIVE
love it love it love it

thanks for the inspiration Melly the Draga lady!

"Tendency to be a night owl and sleep very little with frequent interruptions in sleep.
Presence of some talent and experience in the arts, often in more than one modality (music, dance, art, theater, poetry, design, etc.).
Tendency to be a little dyslexic or else an exceptional student and sometimes both. Greater than average chance of having a photographic memory or total recall.
Lots of experience as a mediator--formal or informal.
Tendency to experience phases of temporary endocrine system dysfunction popping up and then subsiding (thyroid gland, adrenals).
Powerful need to spend time alone or in nature on a regular basis"

OMG!! That describes me to a tee! :eek:

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Sorry :-)
Couldn't resist - poor impulse control, you see :-))

SB.

In the distance I hear the mighty chanting of wings, growing as a crescendo: the dragon swoops.

Right, I'm off ..... :-)

LOL!!! We would not be true ADHD people if we did not act on impulse......It's all good.....I just ate so Im not hungry at the moment for rump roast:p

It's not so much reading minds as being HIGHLY intuitive. And sometimes it only applies to certain distinct areas of life. Just the way a person walks and carries themselves can cause me to judge them in a certain manner. For instance a particular type of natural confidence can reveal a VERY personal aspect of a man's life to me. Much more discussion along this line would be **********'d out. But my friends are finding it amusing since I have discovered my ability to do this. I would truly prefer to be able to predict who is monogamous as opposed to who is packing the larger package!!!!!!!

Mom has that intuition whewre she can look at a person and know from one meeting if they are a no good son of a ***** or a good person and i have my own, and when thy conflict me and her are unmoveable and unchangable with our perceptions....She sees the bad and I see the good...i dunno which perception is a better quality to have actually heh

But I have to admit she was right about my ex's Both of em....Dont it suck when personal feelings mix up perception and intuition.

HI drega, I do understand what you say, I guess we get a little blinded some times. I met a guy last June, and I had an instant conection with him and started seeing him every day. I told my mom that I thought he was the one, and asked her hasen't she ever just fell like that, and she said if that was the case I better turn and run the other way. I thought she was nuts for her opinoun on this. Turns out she was right. Also which is crazy, he happenes to be ADHD and bi-polar. Seems I met him on one of his "up" days, but turned out he'd have more "down" days. He ended up hitting me one day, he really turned into someone else. But any way Mom was right on that one. Our Adhd also played a big part in our connection. I didn't know that I was though. Funny I just read about it on the internet one night, and I was like "Oh, my God" I had know idea but this guy try to tell me several times he thought I was Adhd and I really needed to see some one about it. I thought No way, My good freind also has Adhd and bi-polor also try to tell me, I couldn't see it because I really didn't understand it.

Heh...kevin was a shizoprenic and I seemed to have a much stronger conntection with him than anyone ever in my life and I thought mom was nuts too for saying how much of a loser he was...But Not all Shizo(sp i know) are violent I hope cause i know for sure this ADHD/Bipolar Woman isn't violent towards anyone..Verbally Aggresive yes but not physical.

Kev and I could connect in a way that we shared each others thoughts and I knew his moves and felt his presence before he did anything or made known that he was there and sometimes it was the same with him...unfortunatley his perception of reality was BLOWN!!!!!! So any move I made or thought was basically a product of his imagination 90% of the time.

[CENTER] Wow, sounds just a bit like the guy I was involved with. He would have a perception about something and totally trip me out with it. I'd be like shaking my head thinking what the Heck? Like way out there, I was like how in the heck can we literally know what each other is thinking and then him throw one out there so far in left field, I couldn't see it for the life of me, thinking where in the world did he get such a thought? But he could sit there and be telling me about how I was feeling, and all to the point it tripped me out.

Well.....it kinda that way but the voices in his head were telling him the exact opposite of what I felt and thought...that when it got worse...but I'm not goin der heh.

Well thats kinda what I meant, at first we'd be talking and he say things about me or how I felt that really trip me out, then as time went on (couple of months) he would say things he thought about me, to me, and It would really blow me away, because he was so far off. But off that subject, I was curious if you tend to find guys seem to want to know you to just get in your pants, and when they find out really learn a little about you, act like they think your cool, but seem to behind your back think your weird?

Dis why I am still single..and i can tell right off about a guys ntentions cause if they talk about sex or anywhere in reference of sex within first knowing them=....red flag I throw them to the trash bin...and guys who talk to me cause they think I am cool....and with no sexual intent ......Where For Art Thou(They) LOL It is rare I meet someone like that. as far as what they think of me behind my back....i developed this instinct of paranoia and mistrust that that is what everyone thinks of me....Only way I know for sure is to flat out test them in the beginning...make yer quirks noticable for a purpose...If they are still around the next day then u may have something to work with ;)

You got that right, you'll trip when you read my other post, your probably doing that now. Thats whats trippin about this guy he knew what to not say to me. I use to have this kozzie ( hugger for your can) never leave home with out one, and on one I stuck a sticker on it that said F*** off I have enough freinds. We understand that completly, don't we, I had this one guy, who after several attemps to talk to me come up to me one time and said " I just want to be your freind", and walked off, I just shook my head, I always seem to know who I could talk to and who not too....

I know the perfecrt responce to say to that line from now on......Someone tells me I Just wanna be your friend.....I tell him to try finding someone that likes him cause he looking in the wrrrrooooooonnnnggggggggg place.

It gets old when you go out and theirs not a single person, who seems to be worth knowing....

Yes It does......Ya just got to pay attention to the red flags perceptions of a person intentions..red flags are a gift and I only wished I could have understood them a long time ago.

You be thankful you do see this, and recognise it, so many don't. It took me a long time myself...

I guess it takes so many times of being burned on a stove to stop and start to recongnize the warning signs of heat before u get burned again....

It 3:43am so I hope that makes sense LOL!

sure, I'm always up this time of the nite, The days I work it's 6pm to 6am. Works out for me, cuz I can't do the other way around. My whole faimly are the same way, for that matter though. We adhd people usually relate.

Dat Y I call it the ADD LINK cause we think alike so much. If the extra 10% that is used for sences like we experience mean we are using that % but kinda find it funny that we are stereotyped as not knowing how to use our brains...and like me friend stori says and I agree ........we use more brain power then the average person

I tend to agree on that,we use more then most. Thats why we are are worst enemy. It's what life is all about.

Unfortunatley true......I wish it wasn't like that but since it is...when I think of it more...if we are their enemy cause we can use more than they then I have to express a joyful glee of laughter at the sillyness of irrational fear and jealousy:D

Exactly my point, if you do not do it this way, you won't win....I've had a habit my whole life of "beating my head against the wall" as mom always said, before I'd learn. It's like the more you should have known about something the harder it becomes to you.

Some Gifts are easy to reconize right off but the ones like red flags u can really start to identify through rationalizing life and people...Like a learned gift or instinct. Some comes natural but this one is the one weapon you have to learn to see and use it. Dat takes a whole lotta thinking.

That to me is the answer. It's like learning a language. If your around someone long enough and you had to learn to understand them, you learn though watching them and their reactions to things. Are ability is high here, So we here are inner self and bodys talk to use and we have to be quiet and pay attention, and we surprizeingly enough can understand. When we can stop beating are heads against the wall...

exactamundo life seems simpler when you stop to smell the roses and and stop grabin the dang thorns!

In a way yeah, usually when things start going to blah, you just need to slow down. I really like to try yoga, maybe I'll get a dvd or something

Believe it or not it's the forums that help me in that sence cause thinking of how you are going to reply or what you are going to post helps u to not only think of the person's POV but give ya chance to really look at ya'self for your own answers ...I find it amazing that when I am in between worlds(this one and my own) and I like I am asleep but I am awake....answers to questions that are at other times difficult to comprehend come to me like a flash of light and it all makes sence.....funny thing about that is....that 90% of me feels like it's a sleep and I am just running on pure 10% capacity...but that when It seem I am more awake......ack I hope that makes sence....:eek:

Yes I can get it that, because the wearing down of the endless thoughts running through your mind its the ones that you see naturally that still will be there.

It funny too.....the ones I see that is so natural was harder for me to see before Heh

Yeah, I know. It's like the harder we make it is acually covering up what was right in front of us to begin with. Thats why I know if I were to slow myself down I would see much more. It's always there, I am the one covering it up with mindless chatter...

like putting the needle at the bottom of the hay stack and u just gotta keep movin the hay to see it fully....But ya know you can never totally cover it up...cause it's somehow in a way still there in the back of your head still visible....

Yeah, Like I was saying our own worst enemy...goodnite

Nite :D Really..seriously who isn't in there own lil way their worst enemy?

[COLOR=DarkSlateGray] Everyone is, but your only givin what you should be able to handle, were so stubborn we just make everything worse for ourselves. :eek: :eek:

some people Make it worse for themselves cause it what being embedded into their brains that a mole hill is the mountain ;)

society, and modern convienences, and the plain lazeiness of human kind have numbed parts of the brain I do believe in the begining used. Now they forget how, and relie on whatever they can grasp hold of, as long as they can ride, and not have to carry... :cool:

Woah.....That the Gemini Intellectual Way of logic....Awesome aint it :D cause ya gotta pernt :D

I don'ot think it's really mindreading. For me, I always guess what people are about to say because I guess I can't wait for them to respond and I have to cut them off and say what I think they're about to say.
i think it's from the hyperactivity. you can't always be right about waht they're thinking or about to say either.

I do that sometimes too....Most the time I'm right on the money of what they are going to say hehe

Well it's like this, I know the ramdom thought that can pass though my head, and if they happened to be about someone else, and what they are about to do, it's not like I go and put emphasis on it. It's like after what ever happens that I saw was going to happen, I realized hey, I just seen that, As long as I do not put my train of thought in this place. I see it, I fog things when I try to look. Theres no doubt in my mind what I see,

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Gypsy That is exactly how it is for me :D

LOL !! I've found that I can read people to a certain level. If I'm not involved personally with them, I'm fine. I think I don't choose to 'heed' the observations when I am involved than just a friendship/coworker level. The key word I'm using here is 'choose'. I know I observe the body language, and can sense the emotion associated with it, I just refuse to accept it sometimes.
It doesn't mean I don't notice them.

crazy isn't it? I'm reading a book at the moment to try and teach myself how to center my thoughts, I hope I can do better on meds, cuz right now I can't focus enough for crap..LOL I knew you sounded a lot like me the first time I read some of your posts. LOL

I hope meds do help ya....it helps me.;) It's so amazing how we sound so much alike..Not just You and I but a lot of of ADDers ....Feels good to know u are not alone...

If Variety is the Spice of life then We Adders are Hot Peppers :D

Yes, it is strange how adders have so many things in common. I was telling my daughter about that last nite. What kind of meds are you on, I go to the doc. for the first time about it today...

Im on Dexadrine ....works great :D G'luck hun

Is that the same as adderall? does it make you more focus or any change at all as far as reading people? or just seeing things? do you know what i mean?

LOL, are you able to see better? intuitivly?

Hehe.....I knew U were going to ask me that :p

Imagine that!!!???

IMagine that....I imagined it and it really happened! :D

LOL "imagine that" Is a saying we use around here... I have been curious if the meds will weakin that gift or strengthen it. I know I would have days that I seemed to sence everything around me and I noticed this would happen around that monthly thing.

For Me It strengthens it :D

:eek: ack Monthly thing around here, A CURSE! hehe

Cool, Im glad, I hope to have the same results, I read after I had my hysterectomy how we have to take care of our uterus because it was the core to our creativity. this freaked me out. because I thought,I done screwed up now! LOL I haven't been the same and I hoped once I got my hormones straightened out, and got on meds for my adhd, I might could think clearly, because now it's a struggle. By the way went for my first doc. appt. for the adhd a while ago. and got sent home, because he was stuck at the hospital, They said I could wait, but they had know idea how long he would be, and he was in another town, too. I was like no way, can I wait, I'd go nuts. she told me to "slide" by there tomorrow about 1 will see...

All this time waiting and wondering, Heck One day won't hurt :rolleyes: still madning though..

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing when I didn't want to go, It's also a question of using the remainder of money left on a med/flex card. by the end of the year, I guess if all else fails I buy some first aid crap... I can't help feel that it's because of the lack of being on time and procratination on my part about going in the first place... You know, cuz like every thing else I don't do it till the last dog dies... :(

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing

Why Am I not surprised :p

You know, I have looked very briefly before at this thread and was like heh heh .. yea I know I know..
But now reading into it.. Of course I had to procrastinate at first-go figure? lol
I really wonder and even with these posts I feel good yet very intrigued to know and learn more.
I have always had these odd occurances yes.. like many here to know what was going to happen.. or to know what someone is feeling .. even when I least want to.
I also could predict what almost every woman was going to have early in thier pregnancies.. mostly in fam but many friends too. I saw my niece when she was pregnant like 8 weeks. I was like wow.. what do you want to have? She was like I soo want a boy. I don't know how I could be to a little girl. I was like.. hmmm I really am sorry
she asked, "why?"
I said to her that she just had this look about her and her face and body looked like art to me for the first time.. I said.. "you are having a little girl honey..sorry "
She smiled and then looked at her stomach and rubbed it and grined quietly for a while after.

She gave birth about two weeks ago to a beautiful and healthy lil girl. I love it!
Nowa days.. I met this wonderful, very handsome man.. I feel total and complete trust in him and love intensly for his soul. He is the one who sent me the link to these forums.. Thank goodness. I feel like I have found family.
(damn I am writing a stinkin book huh? lol)
Well, me and him.. it scares us sometimes because it is like he knows everything there is to know about me and if not it comes out simultaneously.
eiiiiwwww I said ..lol
we constantly yell at eachother(jokingly of course) .."STOP READING MY MIND DAMNIT!" lol
That is a costant to this day.. just finishing eachother's thoughts to the "T".
In some way this feels so Awesome to me and him. I hope we never get sick of eachother . I love the converstions we have..heh heh* smile!

btw.. he also has ADD.:o

Do people make comments to you that "you're a know-it-all" or "you're stubborn."? I get this all the time from my wife. I wonder if this a link to the "mindreading" thing?

Just late last night I was upstairs on the computer and my wife was downstairs in the living room. She yells upstairs, "Hey hon', guess what ..." Before she had a chance to finish her sentence, a thought popped into my head and I replied, "Yeah, I know. I'll get dressed and go get them." We needed to get 20 juice boxes for my son's school party today.

- Tim

Now that is neat....I think sometimes when we are so close to one another it makes it easier to guess what the other is going to say or do, and yes this has happened to me a lot :)

Not sure if dead thread or not but I have this a lot. Or at least I finish their sentances all the time. I've always guessed my mind is quicker to come up with their words. Usually annoys the heck out of them... :D

I actually get a lot of Pre-Cogntion though. I'll dream about something months or even years before for like a period of up to 20-30 seconds. Exactly same as dream. Strange...

Anyone else?

I do that as well....dreams and Visions :D Aint it cool

I've stopped doing that because people would get aggravated with me also. I would also say something, and they would say the same thing right after, or say something about a movie I was watching to have the character refer to it suddenly.
I didn't have any rational explanation to give to them, and I'm so tired of having to make one up.

Nova, Dawlin, Tell Em the Truth....If they dont like it or think ya weird to hell with em. No one Should have to Justify themselves especially if something just comes natural....or If not just tell them Part of the truth....You're Just Gifted :D

BTW...That Mask Looks SO Familiar Tehe,........Love it!!!!!!!!!

Nova, I agree; tell them the truth... if they don't like it you'll probably KNOW before they do anyway! :D

This ability is one of the many reasons that ADD'ers are so well suited for counseling and coaching roles. All people lie to each other and themselves....but when you can HEAR the truth no matter what you are being told.... it can come in real handy. So, keep tuning it in.... and fine tune what you do with it.

:) Indeed.......as I once said to a Doot of a friend

Go Doot
That Voodoot
That You Doot
So well :D

I do understand you get tired of people looking at you like your weird or something, but you shouldn't have to hide who you are or what your mind can do, to please others, if they have a problem with it let them step back.

:D Yeah What gypsy said hehe....GMTA :p

The people who really know me, take my 'thought transference' process in stride. Others who encounter it, who haven't experienced it before.. well, those are the ones that I make up some excuse for. I've done it in person, through email, the phone, and I just smile in amusement now. I was just complaining today about some procedure we had to follow at work, and stepped on the elevator to go to a lower floor, to have a coworker who was already inside the elevator, complaining about the same exact procedure to another worker, and she wasn't in the same department, nor was there any way she would've dealt with the same procedure right at that same exact moment. But she was talking about it two minutes after I said it.
It's not only thought transference, but it's sensing people's emotions (although that really comes in handy), their capabilities and hidden personalities/traits also.
I'm used to it now. I've done it forever, it seems. I don't devalue the ability, I've just learned that in certain circumstances, I'm just better off not saying the 'words' that pop in my mind which don't originate from me.

LMAO I said to myself, thats exactly what I've said,(in a manner of speaking)LOL scrolled down and seen what draga wrote!! I know exactly what your saying Nova, depending who I'm around, more times then not, there is no one worth shareing my insights too... I often wonder if I'm getting every thing I should though. Because there are times I feel I'm supposed to be seeing something in a situation or person, but just can't seem to put my finger on it.... Then I wonder if I'm not being able to put my finger on it because I'm wondering to much, over analizing again? Or am I suppose to be seeing something that is more important, but picking up the louder activites on the outside? ...Do you do this? Feel this???

Oh Yeah I know that feelin too.....me gut sending up red flags but just can't guess why at first that I get this feeling don't talk to this person or don't tell him this ....Of course dont fig what exactly before too late, That I need to tap into my inner selves and try to figure out how to tell what Draga is tellin me

Exactly, Here's where you have to be careful at least "me" When I start identifying with the different thoughts, ie... Have a normal thought, then when I start drawing in different conclusions, It starts getting dark and it's really up to you to clear your head, and not let yourself focus in on all the different equations. As long as I go with my inner self, I do okay. It's just trying to get the questional, sispious side of me not to take notice. It can be hard then your scared you'll stop paying so much attention, at the wrong time.

Yeppers, Exactly......I try to not take notice unless the vibe that I get is too powerful that I can not can't ignore it...but learning to be careful to not miss read it....Yikes.

omg I have done that... my friend Joan tells me I finish her sentences. Go figure. We both have the same sign Libra does that count? She know me well and I knwo her so maybe we just are good friends.
auntchris

It was weird..I kept thinking about my drivers licence half the day yesturday ...having to get it renewed on my birthday this year....and then later on got letter in the mail from the DMV about renewing my voters registration..even though licence and voters are different things I was getting vibe that somehting was coming up soon. eeeeeeeeeerrrryyyu

I remember I always had the abilty to see things and have them happen moments later.....like a premonition but someone brought of the thought last night that ppl can make things happen with their minds and I never once thought of that....Possibiltys endless on how it happens but it happens. :confused: :faint:

Then why cant I ever see myself winning the lottery :eyebrow: :foot:

I think I might more accurately say that I read feelings rather than mind. I can tell if someone's words and feelings are incongruent. I can sometimes actually feel their feelings in my body. I also can take a word or two plus the tone and know with a high accuracy rate what's coming next -- doesn't making me too popular with my husband when I utilize that skill however, and I'm definately no infallable here.

Scattered

I can feel others emotions,its almost too much.I find myself overwhelmed with emotions and bubbling on the inside with hurt for people.I can also feel a bad seed and quickly pull away.I use to work in bars so I encountered it on a daily basis for a long time.I dont think ive ever been wrong either.....nope,I havnt.

I can do that sometimes too esopecially if I am close to them.when dad was sick and when he passed I could kinda put myself in his place to what he was feeling I swear I can not handle it to this day remembering. :(

About a year ago I met a guy who is extremely spiritually grounded. For some reason, I felt calmer with him than anybody I ever spent time with. For awile I think I say this as some kind of incredible soul connection. But as I got to know him, I just realized that his words and actions were consistent...or congruent...with his thoughts and feelings. I just 'knew'...when he would distance, it wasn't me, it was something he needed to do. I didn't have to read between the lines.

I am usually so hyperaware (is that a word?) of peoples emotions...and feeling the need to react in some way...that it sometimes makes me crazy. One person at a time I can handle...more than that is too much. Except for this guy....completely calm. Too bad we aren't 'suited' to each other....

Sorry to be off topic..but Draga you in New Orleans right now?

Hyperaware is an interesting choice of terms. I do know that some people are simply very sensitive, and some are a bit more likely to be empathic towards other people. I think ADDers simply tend to be very sensitive and intuitive.

Today, I met someone who spoke and acted in a way that was not consistent with the emotions that I tought I was picking up on. It was a little distrubing. Then I realized that I was operating on intuition and my "alarm" had gone off. This was my cue that "something was not right".
My response was to act on that instinct and leave the situation.

I can not say that my intuition is 100% right, but I do believe it is telling me something 100% of the time, even if I am not interpreting it correctly. The end result is that I typically need to make more of an effort to rely on my intuition in order to stay out of the troubles it warns me about.

A friend once remarked that "men are not supposed to have intuition...", I reponded with "this male does...".

Me :D

A friend once remarked that "men are not supposed to have intuition...", I reponded with "this male does...".

Me :D

I think "men are not supposed to have intuition..." is a stereotype that has been sold to the warring male populations for eons. You can't have a soldier that reacts to intuition or empathy. (I wonder how they're doing now with a co-ed population?)

But I think every human has intuition and I applaud you for tapping into yours Speedo and making good use of it. It just gets better as you use it....just like any other sense or skill you have; practice makes perfect.

I've used mine on many occasions and it has saved me from a lot of trouble and also allowed me to help others see the truth about their own situations.

Better to be safe than sorry,hu speedo.

oh yah brandy. It seems as though almost every time I ignore it, I get stung.

Me :D

Speedo, you can ignore your intuition? It's getting so I get physically sick if I do something contrary to what it's telling me....or wait....maybe that's what I take the Xanax for! :D

I find ignoring those lil vibes and intuitions get me in more trouble than anything else....Listen to your gut and ya cant go wrong, m'dear