I think that this is the case with me. For example, I a lot of times don't get subtle hints and/or manage to offend/annoy someone. I mean, most women get annoyed when men don't take hints, and even more annoyed if other women don't.


Furthermore, at least in U.S society, there is this expectation of women to be uber efficient,ubermultitaskers, among other things. What are your thoughts.

I find men have little patience. They make rude little comment's about my being a blonde. I have a little comeback that quiet's them down right away though. lol

I agree with you, It's a sore spot with me. When I was with my x and we were visiting relatives of his I felt judged for any mess he made. Yet, he was just being a male in others eye's, yet it reflected me as being disrespectfull if we or he left a mess, I really don't think it reflected on him as long as he had a woman.. I may be slightly off the topic intended, but, at Thanksgiving time all the women would pitch in and work all day, while the men sat around. Then we cleaned up after the feast as well. If a man so much as lifted a finger he was a saint. Yet I remember feeling particulairly ill, one year, and felt so misinterpreted when I didn't pitch in that I did.
I don't have the problem these days as I am single. I find it much easier. Though I still expect myself to be superwoman.
Janine

I think linear thinking men are more impatient, with my conversational dynamics than linear thinking women.

Futs could you please tell us your little comeback?
In case I ever dye my hair!

I sometimes clash with my mom over cleaning standards esp regarding the kitchen, or I just lack the focus to do it exactly how she wants it. Moreover, she's too fast for me.


As for holiday things with extended family, I was not really expected nor asked to clean up, though my mom sometimes would ask me to pick up some stuff in our(my parents, bro and I) section.

Another thing is being called lazy just because I'm not the best housekeeper by my mom.

janine your ex in laws sound just like mine only difference is I do not let my husband get away with it. I'm his partner if he wanted a slave he could have gotten one for much cheaper lol.

D. Only once has my mother complained about the way I cleaned, once I handed her the dishclothe and went to watch t.v. she hasn't ever complained again. lol

My comeback line is not exactly forum appropriate so I'll pm it to you.lol

I said, "it depends" .... because in my experience men and women get annoyed by different aspects of ADDness. Women seem to pick up on the social aspects like inattention and my tendency to free-associate and jump to unrelated topics while we're talking. Many women seem to feel a little threatened (or just annoyed) by ADD women. In social settings, I find that men don't seem to notice these things as much. They often even enjoy the experience of talking to ADD women ... we can be pretty entertaining. ;) But once you actually settle down with one, you may run up against his idea of how a woman should act, how well she should be able to run the household, etc, etc. So .... it just depends. How's that for a definitive answer? :D

I voted "depends" because the response I get from people often varies with the type of relationship I have with them. A female stranger will often bcome annoyed or impatient very quickly....like a cashier if I've temporarily misplaced my driver's license and am holding up her line.....not so with males. When it comes to casual acquantances, I find that females, more often than not, will just quickly and politely disengage during an ADD moment. Men, more often than not, find such things "cute" or "funny" and tend to engage me further. Close personal relationships differ vastly. I find that the little patience men have wears thin quickly. Women tend to sympathize. YMMV.

I should have voted depends but I was too quick with my answer.. for I find that its based on personality more than female or male. My roommate goes batty because of my impulsiveness and sometimes emotional state. He's an introver while I am way out there. My sister goes batty with me because I'm not materialistic and calmer about raising my kids. She's ADD denial and just can't believe that others have opinions...

It's really a two way street...I get on mens nerves sometimes, and they get on my nerves all the time;). I think women can sometimes be selfish but at other times understanding. Two-way street

I had to vote women because I feel lately I've really been targeted by them and for the most unimportant things. They have just always seemed to be my harshest critics beginning with my Mom and sisters. Men seem to be much more tolerant of me and don't even seem to notice when I screw up or have a brain cramp.

Tell me about it! There is nothing more annoying that people picking over small stupidities.

Women can be really finicky about being late and forgetting assignments, maybe it's just the class I'm in (an Office Admin class, so I suppose it's at their advantage to be so anal-retentive hehe), but I always get so much disapproval. I put a lot of effort into staying organized, and the meds help, but I still have my odd pitfalls--but apparently thats not good enough. oh well.

I get it more from women. I think they don't like that I could care less about their gossip. I also don't like to "have lunch" "go shopping", or escort them to the bathroom. I still don't know why girls go to the bathroom together. Is that weird? heh

Also, I think women get more annoyed about social graces or things your "supposed" to do or how you're "supposed" to act. And they get their feelings hurt over seemingly nothing. Once my best friend told me I hurt her feelings because I didn't say "bless you" after she sneezed.

Men on the other hand find my clumsyness cute. And they hardly notice when I act ADD. They hardly ever get their feelings hurt by a misinterpreted comment. They HAVE no social grace (most of them anyways) so why would they care if I do? They usually walk into my messy apartment and think theyre home. he he

Woman, Woman Woman.....sheeshhhh for sure other woman give me more trouble.

Jealous that is what they are LOL...i like to think anyways :cool:

I voted that I get flack from other women, simply because the ones that I get comments from are women that really do not have any REAL understanding of what ADD is. In fact when I finally told my mother that I was dx as ADD..........her comment was "I do not know how you could have gotten THAT"

Other women.

I think it is still more socially appropriate for men to be "flaky" and childlike. Women are supposed to (a) be adults and (b) fill in the gaps for their men. Obviously I don't think it is really supposed to be that way, but as a female I feel very judged by other women and not very judged by men.

Maybe it is the "H" in me? :D I grew up a tomboy, very physically active, and I am used to men. I have female friends as an adult, but only a few. I don't like having to restrain my personality and it is rare when I click with someone.

I agree with FeatheredThing !!! Totally !! The women I click with, have the same personality traits as I. Which are a rare treat to find !

My problem with other womyn is , I have a hard time, saying things that makes sense even if i try. I am not a good comunicator, so usualy i am pretty much right to the point. And often it's seen as rude on my part. Also , now i refuse to play the social ettiquette games. I use to be a nerve wreck before, because i always reminded myself not to say this, or that because of this or that. Now, it's me and if you dont like it, to bad next.....
I have only 2 real friends and like Nova said, they are pretty much like me also. Right to the point, and that is the way i like it.
I find that woman in general tend to play little games , out of low self esteem , jealousy or envy . And i dont get into that at all..