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tactilejones
02-20-04, 05:24 PM
Hi. I apologize in advance for a long post, but here goes...

I am a 32 year old male who was diagnosed with ADHD almost a year ago. My adult life has seemed like a consistent slide downhill.

A little background: As a child, I always had difficulty finishing my shcoolwork. Homework assignments would drag through the evening sometimes until late at night. I could never finish tests on time; however, my teachers (at a Montessori school) would often let me skip the next period to finish, because when I did, I would usually have a near perfect score. I read and reread the questions, and was terrified of mising an answer because I hadn't read the question right. I got good grades, but on report cards my teachers always commented that I was a "space cadet", or that I "marched to the tune of a different drummer". I felt a bit like an outsider at first, but then acheived popularity for my sense of humor. I also landed in the chair outside the principle's office many times. When I did get sent to the principle, my teachers would speak to me in this knowing tone, as if to say "you're so smart--why do you have to clown around". I always struggled to pay attention/keep up when we did worksheets or workbooks in class together, and later I could never take legible or thourough notes. In little league, my coach stuck me in right field, because I was often caught daydreaming or observing passing geese when the ball came my way. When I caught a game-ending fly ball, sealing our win, the star player on the team joked "he was just putting his glove up to block the sun from his eyes!" Once, I hit what should have been a double, but "overran" my teammate on 2nd base (how could I run and pay attention to who was where at the same time?) In soccer, I once drove the ball all the way down the field, only to score a goal for the other team. The first sport I ever excelled at was raquetball; I only had to pay attention to one thing. In middle and highschool, my grades were marked by periods of acheivement, slides downhill, and quantum efforts to get back ahead. These years were also punctuated by many disciplinary run-ins; though I got many "demerits", I was never considered a really bad kid, because most of my crimes were lateness to school/class, not paying attention, or joking around with others in class. Again, paying attention/taking notes was a struggle; I usually got by, and well, by photocopying others' notes and cramming for tests. Cliff's notes were my best friend. In college, in one class without an attendance policy, I attended four times: to take the quarter, mid-term, and final exams, again borrowing the notes of a classmate. I got a high B.

In my early adult life, I can remember feeling like I had all of this energy, but could never figure out what to pour it into. I have held dozens of jobs. Video production, driving a forklift, data entry, waiting tables, temping at various companies and agencies--Morgan Stanley, Citibank, Motown and Polygram Records, St. Louis Department of Health, the Social Security Administration offices, Liz Claiborne Foundation, and many, many more. I have volunteered as a reading mentor, worked in retail, delivered pizzas, substitute taught in three different school districts, telemarketed vinyl siding, done landscaping and apartment demolition/rehab, and worked as an instructor at the locol Zoo's day camp educational program. These jobs took place in four different cities (NY, Boston, Cinncinnatti, St. Louis). In New York, I learned to excercise daily, and went on a 12-mile rollerblade with a large group every Wednesday evening. For the first time in my life, I started to feel slightly competent and lived for Wednesday nights. During this time, I applied, and got into, law school in Boston. Within two months of starting school, I couldn't get out of bed. I remember feeling like my "brain didn't work the way it needed to" to get into the law. Judgements on cases were too black-and-white, and seemed arbitrary, and not in keeping with the creative, relative way that I had come to see the world.
I returned to my home town and sought treatment for clinical depression (1996). Since then, I have continued to "job hop"; after several years of temping, subbing, and working as a camp counselor, I finally got my first full-time job with healthcare: Outdoor Education Coordinator (running residential camp for sixth graders). Eight months of the year, I worked in a small office, set my own agenda and schedule for recruiting staff, designing program activities, getting school contracts, designing our website, and running as many errands out of the office as I could. Four months of the year, I was running around from the time I awoke until I hit the sheets; the program stuck to a strict schedule that was broken into segments of no longer than 45 minutes. It was in this environment that I felt most alive, most able to function as a "normal" person, and contribute something of my talents. Two years ago, a four and a half year relationship ended very painfully. A couple of my quirks that annoyed her the most: 1) I never took the most direct route while driving, but always took the scenic route, never seeming to be concerned with time, and 2) Although I am a good cook, I could never "sit down and enjoy" a meal. As a bachelor, I eat mostly standing up and while on the go, and 3) How can I bounce so many checks, mostly due to not making deposits in a timely fashion?

I was laid off a year and a half ago do to budget constraints. Since, I have worked two 3/4-time jobs (not at the same time) and have not had health insurance. As of last week, I am once again unemployed. I have never quit a job, and never been fired. I certainly have taken a lot of implicitly temporary positions. About a year ago, after 6-7 years of experimenting with different antidepressants, I was finally diagnosed with ADHD. I have been on Strattera for about 7-8 months, as well as Wellbutrin.

As I read through these posts, I am amazed how much of myself I see in everyone here. I have been a chronic car and housekey loser; my college roommates put a hook on the wall and a sign with an arrow reading "(Myname)'s Keys". At the camp, I never received my own set of keys, even though I was the only full-time staff member present during my programs. I had to borrow the summer camp director's keys because, they told me, "we know how you are about losing keys".

A year ago Christmas Eve, I totaled my car (not paying enough attention during a snowstorm). A year prior, I had totaled my previous car. I have replaced numerous exhaust systems and one cracked oil pan for hitting potholes or speedbumps. I average one or two speeding tickets per year, but last summer I had four. Three years ago, I declared Bankruptcy, partly to discharge law school debt. I have continued to be slightly overextended financially ever since. I don't drink at all (although I self-medicated a bit in college), I don't use drugs. (Although I do do coffee and cigarettes, both of which I think are terrible habits, especially the latter). I don't buy many things, or spend much at all on entertainment (the occasional movie). For several years I have felt unable to travel outside of the state, because I feel I've lacked the financial resources. I try really hard to balance my budget--I have written a Microsoft Access application for doing so; still, it's hard to sit down and wrap my mind around any kind of working use of the figures. Little by little, I've scaled down, simplified, and limited my life so that it would become manageable. I live in a tiny apartment, drive a (slightly worn) economy car. I have gone to a support group for people with some substance abuse in the family (as is likely in many genetically-ADD-prone families). I have been in psychoanalysis (when I am late my therapist thinks I am subconsciously trying to "punish" myself). Maybe I have beat myself up in the past about failed jobs or relationships, or felt guily for agonizing boredom, when I should be valuing stability. But now I am just frustrated and angry. Faced with another job search, I feel fed up. WHY can't I acheive any sort of stability in my life. WHY can't I do the things other people seem to do. HOW can anyone get it "together" enough to have an intimate relationship (how can one stop moving long enough)? HOW can people ever raise children (when it is such a struggle to take care of onesself?). HOW can one mount an organized job search, when all I've ever been able to do is put a word in with temp services, school districts, and anyone I know until I've "stumbled" into something. I'm afraid that as I get older I won't even be able to get these jobs on my charm and wit anymore.

Specifically, can anyone help me with the following: Do you think ADHD is a significant part of my problem? What kind of therapy should I be getting if so? Do you think a stimulant medication might be more effective for me? Any idea on how I can get myself insured again, so that I might be able to try one? Any feedback or "constructive criticism" would be appreciated. Also, if there are any professionals on the topic out there, your feedback would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.

Gregster
02-20-04, 05:46 PM
Ya it sure sounds like you haved a classic case of ADHD. Many parts of your history could be cut and pasted into my own. Job to Job - never the same thing twice, etc.
Therapy and coaching would do you a lot of good (me too!) and I certainly would try a stimulant. How does the Wellbutrin and Strattera work for you? If I was you, I would ask my Dr to drop one of your current drugs (whichever seems to help you the least) since they sorta "overlap" in what they do and try a stimulant like ritalin or Adderal. I don't have experience with taking ritalin yet (I'm in the middle stage of diagnosis) but the info I've read here and in other places makes me think it's well worth trying. Drugs sometime work differently in people but for those people it helps, the change is often dramatic!
Good luck and welcome to the forum.
Regards,
Greg

biker
02-20-04, 05:48 PM
Welcome! I am not an expert. Each med is different for everyone so one that works well for me may not work well for you. I was on Strattera and have moved on to Adderall XR. I really like it. From what you say it sounds like ADHD. But again a professional would be the1 to talk to. I am inattentive ADD so I am a little different. There may be a local ADD chapter in your area. That would be a start. Check the Webb. Is there any job you have done that you really liked. We all do really well at things we like. That might be a starting place. I wish you good luck. There are a lot of great people and information on this forum.

apcpapergirl
02-20-04, 08:35 PM
Hi tactilejones! My name is apcpapergirl and I am part of the ADD Forums Welcoming Committee. On Behalf of ADD Forums We would like to extend a warm welcome to our community.
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Draga
02-20-04, 08:43 PM
Specifically, can anyone help me with the following: Do you think ADHD is a significant part of my problem? What kind of therapy should I be getting if so? Do you think a stimulant medication might be more effective for me? Any idea on how I can get myself insured again, so that I might be able to try one? Any feedback or "constructive criticism" would be appreciated. Also, if there are any professionals on the topic out there, your feedback would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks. [/B]

You sound so much like me! :D..But Dont be afraid;) I to had problems in school very simular to you own, I could never pay attention and I tried my best to Keep organized,(if you saw my locker you would know, no such luck). Studying for test was hard, in Math at least..God I was horrible..But some subjects like english, I excelled in because I was very creative and loved to write. I got alot out of writing..you could see for yourself in Short Stories and Poems. Yes, I totalled my moms car the first week of driving..after I studied for a whole year to take the test.

It does seem like you are ADHD..cause it almost sounds Like we lived the same Life(again, don't be afraid) I was on Ritalin and ADDerall and now Dexadrine, All stimulant medications...In high school when I was diagnosed my poor grades, taking ritalin excelled into A's and Adderall get me through 2 years of college and work back to back. SO you may want to try those...first you need to get find your self a RELIABLE physicatrist who handles ADHD pateints..they are many drug programs out there for. Check in the Medication part of this forum I submitted a thread that can help you get Dexadrine if the doctor chooses to put you on it...If not, You can try the Gov't AID programs like Medicad..if you qualify...or maybe even Peoples Prescription Plan..

I sympathis with your concern about holding a job, the last job I had they said I was not mentally stable to work for them...If the situation ever gets to that You may try SSI if your doctor can provide enough proof that you are disabled.

By the way, On behalf of the ADD Forums, Welcome..I hope youy enjoy it here and can find help..I know I have. This is the best place to get feedback and vent your troubles.

I am sorry for this long post, but Guess what:
I am on dexadrine now, and I can talk and goof around more now than ever..It helps me alot..I hope what ever meds you take can help you! Take care and Keep Posting :D!

Garry
02-20-04, 08:50 PM
Welcome to your new Home tactilejones

As I am very lazy when it comes to typing so I have created a welcome page and ADDed a link here to get you there

My Welcome Page (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3345)

Garry

Draga
02-20-04, 09:20 PM
Tactile,

As I mentioned before, rather than have you search for the thread about the free medicine program here is the link:
http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4173

Jellybean
02-21-04, 01:39 AM
Welcome Tactile,
I relived my childhood in anothers words reading your post.
I pretty much gave up on doing any homework assignments in school. As I could never be organized enough to know what they were. If I wrote them down I couldn't understand what I wrote.
I survived on wit, luck, and sparks of intellegence in some right moments, then teachers though I must know whats going on.
My mom removed me from school as she had allowed my brothers to do cause we never worked and went to college early, but they made a new rule and wouldn't admit me on test scores alone as did my brothers I was too young to get a GED. We always school passed with reasonable marks. No kids made it through 11th grade in my family. My mother was told by a preschool teacher that the three of us were genuises (I'm not though) and she should not ever send us to regular schools, and that it would ruin us. My mother later said she wished she didn't.
I regret the time I spent bored, confused, unable to use the time constructivly. I homeschool my kid who is a chip off the ol'block.
I didn't mean to talk about me. But, it is always nice to fit in. Welcome!! And Does your name have to do with your being tactile senstive or learner?
j9