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francis_r
01-11-08, 11:53 AM
Have any of you ever felt more productive the day after a night of going out and 'heavy' drinking?

It seems that on such days I lose some clarity (obviously) but I am also more motivated, I feel stronger, and the medication works better. I recently read that this may be caused by temporarily increased serotonin levels. Does this make sense?

I am curious if others have had similar experiences.

Francis


PS: My intention is to gain insight, not to promote alcohol (as I am aware of alcoholism and weight gain risks).

onthego
01-11-08, 12:03 PM
As I stated in my last post - I always feel more productive and better about myself after a night of drinking. Just as long I didn't black out:D

DimensionX
01-11-08, 12:05 PM
I've been wondering something similar, with sleep deprivation, a lot of people here seem to work better late at night, I was wondering, because the tiredness would dull the senses, make the person in question less aware of everything around them so in essence more....single minded as a result they complete more, not because they are more focused but because they are so tired that their brain is just interpreting the necessary, interpreting only higher stimulus things like people shouting and not lower stimulus things like the ever so distracting drip of a tap or whirl of a fan in the room thats at the opposite end of the apartment.

If this is the case, people would more likely want to pursue this because it has a reward, they are accomplishing things so they get more compliments from others, less negative attention, they appear to be focused even though it isn't through willpower but more of 'brain shutting down' thing.

The brain works on a reward system, logically it stands to reason, but I'm just theorizing as I so love to do :)

not sure about the alcohol though, although alcohol has caffeine in it which is a stimulant so technically it is partial self medicating for some, though it's definitely not a good way to go.

absane
01-11-08, 03:01 PM
not sure about the alcohol though, although alcohol has caffeine in it which is a stimulant so technically it is partial self medicating for some, though it's definitely not a good way to go.

Alcohol does not have caffeine in it. Maybe you are thinking about Jagar Bombs (Jagar + Red Bull) or Jack + Coke.

In LOW doses, alcohol is a stimulant. If you drink just enough alcohol to be so that you aren't drunk and you have eaten plenty of food, it is true you will wake up stimulated since alcohol is still working its way out of your body.

francis_r
01-11-08, 09:39 PM
Interesting... But it feels a lot different than after just having drunk one beer. I think the sleep deprivation may play a role as well. I read in Wikipedia that sleep deprivation used to be a treatment for depression. So maybe sleep deprivation causes increased levels of some chemical that fights depression, and that stimulates me at work. Serotonin maybe?

francis_r
01-11-08, 09:49 PM
not sure about the alcohol though, although alcohol has caffeine in it which is a stimulant so technically it is partial self medicating for some

You should really do some research before making such statements. I am astonished by this error.

HighFunctioning
01-11-08, 09:55 PM
Alcohol is a dirty drug -- meaning it has effects on multiple, possibly opposing, systems. Alcohol is known to produce an increase in epinephrine, and supposedly causes an increase in dopamine, serotonin, and (of course) GABA (not necessarily all at the same time, which it depends on how much one drinks, and of course, the interactions of these systems with each other).

Interesting... But it feels a lot different than after just having drunk one beer. I think the sleep deprivation may play a role as well. I read in Wikipedia that sleep deprivation used to be a treatment for depression. So maybe sleep deprivation causes increased levels of some chemical that fights depression, and that stimulates me at work. Serotonin maybe?

Sleep deprivation generally causes serotonin depletion. Lack of sleep has been associated with increases of epinephrine, various changes in norephinephrine (often reduced), and possibly an increase in dopamine.

http://www.causeof.org/sleepd.htm

The serotonin hypothesis of depression has many critics.

francis_r
01-11-08, 10:05 PM
Alcohol is a dirty drug -- meaning it has effects on multiple, possibly opposing, systems. Alcohol is known to produce an increase in epinephrine, and supposedly causes an increase in dopamine, serotonin, and (of course) GABA (not necessarily all at the same time, which it depends on how much one drinks, and of course, the interactions of these systems with each other).
That looks very much like SJW's effects. Funny is that SJW seems to diminish my alcohol intake.


Sleep deprivation generally causes serotonin depletion. Lack of sleep has been associated with increases of epinephrine, various changes in norephinephrine (often reduced), and possibly an increase in dopamine.

http://www.causeof.org/sleepd.htm

The serotonin hypothesis of depression has many critics.

Well, if that article is correct, and sleep deprivation causes increased amounts of dopamine, then it certainly makes sense that my medication works better on these after-party days.

t-bird
01-11-08, 10:10 PM
omg I am useless after a night of drinking! And taking my meds on a hangover makes it even worse!

francis_r
01-11-08, 10:15 PM
omg I am useless after a night of drinking! And taking my meds on a hangover makes it even worse!

Yeah, if I have a bad hangover then meds make it a lot worse for me too.

Fraz_2006
01-12-08, 01:43 AM
well its 5:45 in the morning in the UK now, and im drinking slightly...... so I will update you all on the effects it has had on my attention later on.

If I dont reply back today...... then you know its done me no good :D

DCadult-Inatt
01-12-08, 08:18 AM
I'm a very occasional drinker, but the last couple of times, I noticed I was substantially more "clear" the next day. I had also gone to sleep more quickly and easily.

Iluvpoptarts
01-13-08, 04:28 PM
i got an A in an english test/quiz after not sleeping allnight partying and getting drunk

meriellyn
01-14-08, 05:04 PM
Ugh, if I drink enough to get a hangover, I'm even more confused and spacey than usual the next day.

I usually don't take my meds the "day after" but I did today because I had class. Did manage to get through class without too much trouble but they definitely didn't work as well and I'm really glad the class was short because I was totally useless by the end.

And physically I feel worse than I did before I took my meds. :P

Feeling this completely confused is obnoxious and definitely keeps me from being productive. Now I remember why I don't drink Jager. Beer hangovers just leave me feeling tired... I can barely think with a Jager hangover.

~boots~
01-14-08, 05:12 PM
Have any of you ever felt more productive the day after a night of going out and 'heavy' drinking?

It seems that on such days I lose some clarity (obviously) but I am also more motivated, I feel stronger, and the medication works better. I recently read that this may be caused by temporarily increased serotonin levels. Does this make sense?

I am curious if others have had similar experiences.

Francis


PS: My intention is to gain insight, not to promote alcohol (as I am aware of alcoholism and weight gain risks).goodness me no :o I can't even take meds if I feel yuk....they bring me to a standstill....

theta
01-14-08, 05:34 PM
Using the rule of thumb "moderation in all things" I say its a treatment idea with low long term efficacy. But if you truly do note a benefit its worth studying why. Do you have
high social anxiety and were you drinking in a group? Having a pleasant social experience might have some major anti-depressant like effects. Which brings up the next question do you have depression? Its known that ADHD meds are less effective in those with other untreated disorders. So my theory is the alcohol is effecting some non-ADHD issues.

I've been wondering something similar, with sleep deprivation,
In the short term sleep deprivation is known to have an anti-depressant effect.