View Full Version : can dexi's possibly cause psychosis in about 1% of ppl?


lanaxxx
01-21-08, 07:47 AM
hello there fellow add's!
in no way am i suggesting they do! i really dont think they would and i love my dexi's

so can dexi's really cause psychosis? (i cant spell sorry) if u know anything i'd really like to back



what is your perspective?
has your dr said anything like that?
it it true and if so is it likely?

i dont wanna have a good year and fry my brain!



when i started on them about 6 months ago my doc gave me this info which said they could and to watch out for signs. he said it wouldnt happen for about a year if it was going to and it only happens to about 1% of ppl who take them. anyway my meds have been great so far

the 'psychosis' symptoms to watch out for where insomnia, paranoia, anxiety, obsessiveness negative thinking etc etc

trouble is i HAD anxiety and ocd insomnia depression to start with-and my meds have helped and ive improve in all aspects but with busy xmas stress and holidays (not being able to see my counciller and psyc for a while now)
i had a bit of a 'depression i'm overwhelmed with my life ocd crash'. and even a bit b4 the crash i was scared 'what if they did make me psychotic?'

so now i'm like-should i worry about going psychotic-cos i had the psychotic symptoms to start with(and my dr knew that). i should ask him i know-i will at my next app (still few more weeks) but i'm just getting into to much obsessive negative thinking and worrying i may be loosing it and its more then add, when actually it could be just my add, and with having my dexi's my brains actually functioning for the first time ever-its nopt overwhelmed so i think more-therefore i'm probably overthinking things into a stress? i hope so! i should just worry if the psy symptoms are worse-and theyre heaps better ive come so far. so why am i thinking i'm going crazy. keep in mind ive had a lifetime b4 these meds of being a real worry freak!

so if u have any feedback on this i'd so apreciate it! even if it hasnt happened to u this way just what u think? your perspective on my situation would be so helpful.

oh and with my situation should i switch to ritalin? i think dexis are great i just wanna see if ritalin maybe even somehow greater? i wanna at least try it but then im scared he wont let me go back.

i'm on 6 d5's a day

also-i was on eddronax and he's kept me on it so i take 6 of them too each day-maybe its the combination of so much? he promised he'll he'll cut it down at my next app once the dex settle in. is this a bad combo?

oh and also i'm on 2 ambien cr each night-maybe they make u crazy too?

plus 2 luvox, the pill, its like 14 pills per day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i know this is rambling but please help!

Matt S.
01-21-08, 11:14 AM
Amphetamine Psychosis rarely occurs when used at the therapeutic level, it is indicated in the warnings because some people are sensitive to medication or have some other condition that contributes to it.

Among amphetamine addicts however who consume an amount equal to about 400 mg at least, they are at a higher risk of psychosis.

lars
01-21-08, 11:58 AM
I'm a member of a site which allow me access to over 20 million articles. Most of which I am unable to link to here because they are copyrighted. However, I still try and find them online and link them from there, so I apologize for only being able to proved an abstracts to one of these, and not the full article.

I did a search under the title "amphetamine psychosis," and these were the only three articles that came up:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_10_34/ai_98125296

http://www.questia.com/googleScholar.qst?docId=76934485

http://www.toxilit.ch/lit/p32326.html

Each of the articles points to the fact that drug abuse is the overwhelming factor involved in amphetamine psychosis, and only one of the articles mentions a single anecdotal case of a 7 year old boy who developed amphetamine psychosis while taking Adderall as prescribed.

The first link above likens the amphetamine psychosis scare currently discussed these days to the "reefer madness" scare that drug hysterics used to employ in the past in a desperate attempt to demonize the cannabis plant.

Based on how extraordinarily rare (almost nonexistent) amphetamine psychosis is among those who take therapeutically prescribed doses, I would have to agree with the position presented in the first article as it relates to drug hysteria. Granted there does appear to be one single case of a 7 year old boy who did experience this phenomenon through no fault of his own, but considering how some people can hypersensitive to any substance under the sun, I would tend to think that he was likely hypersensitive to Adderall most likely (as mspen1018 alluded to).

If there were more cases of anecdotal evidence to support what that poor 7 year boy experienced from taking these drugs as prescribed, I would be hesitant to even mention the possibility of drug hysteria in my post here. However, after considering the evidence, I feel that the chances of a person experiencing amphetamine psychosis from taking these medications as prescribed will only happen if that person happens to be hypersensitive to the medications.

theta
01-22-08, 02:30 AM
trouble is i HAD anxiety and ocd insomnia depression to start with-and my meds have helped

Ideally you should have treated all those conditions before treating ADHD.
Particularly depression which is likely associated with a much higher incidence of death than ADHD.

okok
01-22-08, 01:39 PM
Some people (a very small minority, 1% sounds right, maybe less) are extremely sensitive to certain effects of amphetamines and could react in this way to a therapeutic dose of amphetamine. Very rare and probably not something to worry about, but real enough for them to put a warning.

lanaxxx
01-24-08, 08:43 PM
thanks for your replys guys!

you've eased my paranoia about it all and i feel much more comfortable i'm not at risk.

thanks for the articles lars i will have a look!

theta-in an ideal world it would have been treated first-but if u read the book driven to distraction youll find all of my problems can be circled by add-si helping my add is helping them all-i still work on other issues with my counciller tho

and ok ok! i read your static thingo! very expressive piece i totally conected with! everything u said i feel exactly the same at times! feels like you spend your life planning but never actuasl;ly doing! my advice-keep it simple and decide what tyo do by labeling 1-10 or something a list of your prioritys in life-that way you can decide what is most imp. so if i'm struggling thinking 'i should clean my car i havnt in ages' but a friend asks me to come over and i start getting stressed-i'll go see the friend cos my first priority is my health and i know that will be best for my mental state. u can clean your car any time!

my psycologist told me a quote something like

'spend 80% of your time on the most important things
and 20% of your time on the lesser'

meaning most important something like

-your health mental and phys
-friends and family
-doing things alone that make u naturally high (eg playing guitar listening to music etc)
etc etc

less imp things-
planning
cleaning
etc etc

hope u get what i mean ok ok