Ok, let me take this from the top.

It started when I was talking to a nurse, it so happend that he was origionally from england, and he started talking about how the american medical system is corrupt, and doctors are perscribeing medication to people who don't really need it because they profit off of it.

Within 5 minutes this guy had me compleatley convinced that I don't have add, I'm just lazy!

He looked at me and said "can you make yourself consentrate on me while I'm talking to you?"

I COULD!

he said "see, add people couldn't do that, they simpley cant, your not ADD"


I'm dumbfounded...really...because the next day I was spinning in circles during class (litterally) the teacher asked me to sit down, and I did...then I glazed...over...bored...so...

should I really trust this guy?

Vahn (slap slap)! Remember that ADHD can concentrate at times, and I'm not surprised that you did fine while talking with that nurse, but still have issues in class. He was talking about something controversial, probably had your level of interest, your blood boiling, neurotransmitters getting stimulated, etc.
What degree does this guy hold to tell you that you do not have ADHD anyway?

Fine nurse he his, griping about the medical system he works for. Augh........

Vahn (slap slap)! Remember that ADHD can concentrate at times, and I'm not surprised that you did fine while talking with that nurse, but still have issues in class. He was talking about something controversial, probably had your level of interest, your blood boiling, neurotransmitters getting stimulated, etc.
What degree does this guy hold to tell you that you do not have ADHD anyway?

Fine nurse he his, griping about the medical system he works for. Augh........


LOL. I'd add to those slaps. What a quack. That's his basis for a diagnosis? That you can sit through a 5-minute conversation that's all about something you're interested in?

How about another 5-30 minutes listening? Once the thrill of the test is over and it gets pointless and boring. Like when my boss has a go, I'm totally listening, but zone out as it goes off topic and irrelevant.

Mygosh. What is it with all these people.

No, you should not trust that guy. Indeed what's said above, in situations like that, all of us can concentrate. Grrr. It's always the people with the least knowledge who hold the strongest opinions. Silly conspiracy thinkers.

You should tell that guy that if he can't recite the entire Knights of Ni scene* from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, he cannot possibly be from the UK. That has about the same level of logic in it (i.e. remotely connected, but on waaaaay another sense)

* including the part about the path down the middle of the two shrubberies

no offense to the guy but......well, he's a nurse *shrugs*

My mums a highly qualified nurse (admittedly specializing in asthma) but she knows that I have more knowledge on the subject than her, not putting nurses down, I mean they have practical knowledge and good general knowledge.

Also *whispers* is he from the north of england?

*ahem* also, what does he actually know on the subject, I mean you can get the jist of a subject and completely convince someone just because you look confident.

*shrugs* but thats just my thoughts.....

grrr I hate when this happens.

My parents say I cant have ADD because I have no problem focusing on certain things like the PC, and my video games ect...

They dont understand that my mind just seeks certain types of stimulation.... and virtual things stimulate my mind, so I can hyperfocus on things that naturally increase my level of dopamine and the activity of my neurotransmiters!!!

Ooooooo Luthien, that's fantastic! :D


You should tell that guy that if he can't recite the entire Knights of Ni scene* from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, he cannot possibly be from the UK.



Vhan, when this clown cannot complete the "required assignment" - {YOU FAIL!} - that's your chance to strike....and prove that you really do have ADD by LEAPING UP (don't forget to knock over a chair or two) SHOUTING in his face:


"I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!"


ADD + Monty Python = Humor In Harmony


I got your message, I rushed to get here....did I make it on time?


Missed you too, kiddo. :)

I Call Bs!!!! I Call Upon Father Zeus To Witness This Betrayal!

I thought Vhan was being scarcastic..as it was such a stupid statement by the nurse...and he was running with it :-)

LOL..especially the line about spinning in class :-)

Go Luthien! If it involves Monty Python, it must be right! :)

LMAO @ CF!

Wonderful idea to bring in the fart!

I'm with ya Fraz! Sometimes my friends think I can't have it because I can read for hours on end etc...its like I was telling another ADDer recently - if you don't have it, its really hard to understand it...

B

... and he started talking about how the american medical system is corrupt, and doctors are perscribeing medication to people who don't really need it because they profit off of it.

I think that his mind was made before this point in the discussion, and disclosed his verdict at precisely this point (he's obviously biased).

Hey there Vhan,

I think you have gotten our honest opinion...so now, were you really serious about believing this schmuck from England who obviously has no idea what he is talking about. I would love to know how doctors profit from prescribing medication people don't need. Insurance companies follow up to see if someone has a diagnosis supporting a script for certain medications...

I truly don't think there are any conspiracy theories out that I have not heard, but the idea of prescribing meds just to get a buck doesn't really gel with my view of physicians who spend years and years of their life, hundred's of thousands of dollars to obtain a license that they get after they recite a hypocratic oath...and then to risk it for what???

So Vhan...where are you?

For all the reasons previously noted by our forum denizens...

How about this?

Using his limited skills, He can DX you as non-ADD, then, using your limited skills you can re-wire his house (assuming you're not an electrician) and he can live in your half-*ssed construct.

If he's still about the attitude, I loose the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog on him.

"it has a vicious streak a mile wide!", as well as "nasty, big, pointy teeth!"

grrr I hate when this happens.

My parents say I cant have ADD because I have no problem focusing on certain things like the PC, and my video games ect...

They dont understand that my mind just seeks certain types of stimulation.... and virtual things stimulate my mind, so I can hyperfocus on things that naturally increase my level of dopamine and the activity of my neurotransmiters!!!

Things that give you pleasure you can easily hyperfocus on. Your dopamine boosting theory makes perfect sense. Problem is you have no real choice (ADD or not) in what gives you pleasure. And the things that people typically
enjoy are not paying jobs. Like how many jobs could there be in the video game testing bussiness :)

I believe that the most dangerous people in the world are those that think they know everything about something they DO NOT (like this nurse - obviously not ADHD), and go about inflicting their "knowledge" on those about them. I do have some faith in the doctors who have studied these things, but honestly - I don't have 100% faith in what anyone says about ADHD, alcoholism, etc, unless they have experienced it themselves. As someone else stated, if you don't have it, it's really hard (or impossible?) to truly understand it. That's why I love this place.

"Nuuuuu.........no, Ni!"

This thread reminded me to dig through my old posts for this bit. Here ya go, Vhan:



When I speak to someone about my ADD I sometimes get this reaction:

"Oh God, someone else trying to blame behavior on some kinda disease. "

Of course my first inclination is to get upset....

"Excuse me ?" I'll say. "What exactly do you know about ADD?"


"Well...." he/she will say, "It's just an excuse for either bad parenting or for laziness. Why don't you just do something when you're supposed to do it ?"


(Right, like it's that easy) :rolleyes:



I used to argue the point with them, but I found that this never worked, so I decided to try something new. Ahhhh....creativity, one of the BENEFITS of ADD.


"Okay. " I said, " Lets do it this way...I want you to think of any two objects. Anything. Something that in no way should be related in anyway to the other. " He scratched his head for a min and said, " A Twinkie, and my shoes. "



(Really creative, especially since there was a Twinkie wrapper next to his foot) :rolleyes:

"That's easy." I said, "Polymers."


"What ???" he asked.


"Polymers." I said again, "Plastic. Both the rubber souls of your shoes and the wrapper of the Twinkie are made of polymers. Now give me two more things."


He scratched his head again. " Okay...my shirt and that dog across the street."


He smiled quietly to himself.


"Do you want me to just do the two or would you like me to connect all 4 things? " I asked.


"Its your hole, " he remarked, " go ahead and dig it."


"It's easy." I began, "That dog across the street is a Rottweiler, originally bred to pull small weapon carts during the Roman era. A type of bread was made at that time using meal to give it more flavor and nourishment during the long marches. Today that bread is made by a company called Roman Meal, which is wrapped in a plastic bag. A polymer."


He smiled, "Ha!! What about my shirt though? "


I smiled back at him. "May I see the tag?"



I reached to the back of his neck to look.


"50% cotton, 50% polyester. POLYester." I said, accentuating the syllables "po-ly".


"What does all of this prove?? " he said, "Fine, you see links between things, it still doesn't explain why you forget to do things."


Now this is where I make the kill.




"Actually, it does." I explained. "Imagine for a moment that everything you see, everything you touch, your mind races to correlate it with every other thing you have seen or touched that day. Imagine that everything is a distraction, because your mind won't stop trying to link everything together."



"Now imagine your wife tells you to take out the trash, you say 'OK!' but as the words come out of her mouth, you're thinking not just about trash, but about land fills and how bad it is for the environment, and you see a Styrofoam cup and wonder if they can really recycle it so that its safe again for the environment. Then you remember an article you read about cups and how many are thrown away. You recall that while reading that article your friend had come by to say 'Hi!' You think to yourself that you haven't seen or heard from that friend in a long while. You should give him/her a call and see how they are. So you reach over to the phone, call the friend and talk for an hour. After you're done, the trash truck has already come by. Then your wife asks why you didn't take out the trash in time."



"THAT'S ADD!!" :cool:

the ADDer's
... mind won't stop trying to link everything together.

~ big picture systems thinkers ~

where the hardened nonADDer thought process cannot see further than its virtual 'disjointed' nose

when the ADDer meets the nonADDer (as 'boss' - in the workplace) -
the lack in insight displayed by the nonADDer forces activities upon the ADDer - which the ADDer knows to be dumb (illogical catches the idea -
'what's the point ?' is the question we're not allowed to ask)

we must comply !
questioning nonADDer is futile.

actually is futile - ADDer thought processes are more 'intertwined' - and so less likely to be 'unconstrained.'

Generally -

'we do something right'
-> 'we getz our dopamine reward'

'sploosh'
- it injects into our dopaminergic circuit interneuronal spaces in between

'happy happy'

however *no fix*
when
'we do something NOT right'

The increased granularity of our reality - entails that behaviours which're acceptable for nonADDer - are unacceptable to us (ADDer)

'they getz their dopamine reward'
'we don't getz our dopamine reward'

we need to take meds to operate in their world -
- sure the world is changing to ADD
- but we're here *now*
- the important point (here) - though being that the ignorant nonADDer who fights their way into position of power (by definition of nonADD - they did not get where they are by intelligence) ... ... ...
- the important point (here) - though being that the ignorant nonADDer
(just like your UK guy - Vhan)
*they* are the problem -
- the problem which the mind has reacted against to give us ADD -
- we're meant to be disordered in presence of nonADDer - to hasten the evolution in structure of mind from
nonADD ->- 'better' structure of ->- ADD

The 'better' structure of the ADD mind is characterized by much improved flexibility (associative thought** - based on associative underlying data structure of mind)

** just as c~f describes

"see, add people couldn't do that [pay attention], they simpley cant, your not ADDgo figure ... eh ? ...

go figure


-*-

- for the record - hyperfocus becomes progressively simpler with usage of mind -
- to engage 'at will'

- with hyperfocus comes the power to concentrate so intensely that even the sensation of 'pain'
- can be crowded out from an abstract thought loving ADD data structure of mind -

- doing what we love best
'daydreaming' it is -
- sadly (though)
doesn't capture the essence of performing 'useful' work -

- the 'hit' when multiple threads of conscious awareness slam their thoughtful heads into 'linear language'

->- the 1 : 1 association between
- the one thread of conscious awareness of nonADD and words -

- sadly, we lose the capacity to describe our thoughts -
though
- even more sadly -
- confuse this loss with an incapacity to think

nopey soapy on zee ropey !

- we think ~ better ~ -
- so much better than the nonADD legacy form within us that
the 1:1 dual between the 1 thread of conscious awareness and *linear language* of nonADD
just plain can't keep up

- we're faster than words.

... ... ... :-) ... ... ... :-)... ... ... :-)


hamster


and (no doubt) poppa's a 'born-again hairy whino'

... ... ... :-)

"THAT'S ADD!!"

what c~say

"THAT'S ADD!!" :cool:



wow!
That's really good.

Ok, let me take this from the top.

It started when I was talking to a nurse, it so happend that he was origionally from england, and he started talking about how the american medical system is corrupt, and doctors are perscribeing medication to people who don't really need it because they profit off of it.

Within 5 minutes this guy had me compleatley convinced that I don't have add, I'm just lazy!

He looked at me and said "can you make yourself consentrate on me while I'm talking to you?"

I COULD!

he said "see, add people couldn't do that, they simpley cant, your not ADD"


I'm dumbfounded...really...because the next day I was spinning in circles during class (litterally) the teacher asked me to sit down, and I did...then I glazed...over...bored...so...

should I really trust this guy?


So many people seem to think they're doctors.........

I think what that nurse was eluding to, i.e. big controversy, false DX, pushing unneccessary medication for profit, stems from the fact that so many general practicianer types are guilty of this. You just go in and anwser a 10 question feedback form and BOOM! you're ADD-here's your med's.
EVERYONE with an ADD/ADHD diagnosis should have recieved an extensive neuropsychological evaluation by a licesnsed Psychologist. Vhan, if you obtained your diagnosis by a Psy.D. ,never let a non-believer sway you! I don't know about you but I spent my life hearing "your lazy-inconsiderate-unmotivated", etc. We KNOW better.;)

The uninformed mislead. Vhan you know you better than anyone. you live in your brain. You were treated unprofessionally by this nurse and his behavior should be reported to the doctor, clinic, practice, or even your states licensing board. He has a code of ethics to follow and what he said was very close if not practicing medicine--diagnosing is not the job of nurses.

Just my 2 cents.

- doing what we love best
'daydreaming' it is -


Oh, its been so long since I have just let myself daydream! (I'm really strict with myselef theese days...blarg)

Ok, one thing I forgot to mention is that this guy told me that he had taken 9 years of phycoligy, and he wouldn't touch it in the US "because its so corrupt".

But I'm not really sure that that matters.

Ok, reflecting on C~fs post...

Ok...yea, I can get were they are comeing from...alltough I had no idea that a dog was used to pull small wepons carts...erm, @.@

~head spinning~

Ok, I don't mean to bump my own post, I just wanted to add some stuff to my last one because I didn't have time to finish it yesterday.

Like, I am totally this close | | to just makeing up my own disorder! even among the wierd a feel wierd...thats just wierd!


Ok, so my theripist (back when I had em) he told me that according to my "invintory" I wasn't hyperactive or impulsive.. so i was like, "thats kewl, Im inittentive, always have been" I didn't even see myself as hyperactive or impulsive.

So last night I was watching a movie, and I got out of the move, and a bunch of kids were hanging out, so I decited to mingle with em. I was wearing my dark blue converse shoes, tripp jeans with only one pant leg zipped on, a huge parka millitary jacket, a tabogen, and a pair of goggles on my head. Just to give you an idea.

It wasn't long before we were techno danceing to someones music on thier phone, and jumping and whatever, lol, but I was acting CRAZY! I was Jumping, and hoping, and just lol, it was grevy, I was SOOoOoooooOOo HYper! I was outside running like a ninja, and doing frog leeps, and danceing like a gangsta, and even did cheerleader jumps (just to be wierd and show everyone how high I could jump) I mean, they must a though I was on speed or something....

what...wat gives!? LMAO

and, then I just sit in school and glaze over....


Its like my ADD knows if it is a weekend or a weekday! and it switches on me! ekk!

so now I don't even know what kind of ADD I have dude! seriousley!

all I know is that I have a problem focusing, LINE DRAWN!

=vhan runs off into the distance with magic markers to begin brainstorming ideas for his own disorder=

Man, you're cool :)

that post made me smile!!!

I don't know what it is, but I keep hearing stories like this coming from the UK. They really just don't have an understanding of what ADD is other than it's something evil American doctors overprescribe for.

all I know is that I have a problem focusing, LINE DRAWN!


hey girlfriend -
doncha' know that

girls just wanna' have fun

goily goil - the key is to see that 9-5 need not be neither
blarggg !
blahhh !!
nor blieee !!!

choose life
kick nonADD soundly where he'll resou'ow ow owww'n
to the tune of his own inanity


I like forms
especially forms which require me to find official documentation
and enter numbers which are really long
in black ink
and with hyphens
and then to get a new number every 7.24 days
which I need to ... ... ...


tattoo on ya' forehead Dwayne Dweebledoink.

:-)

-*-

Yay - to fun !
nonADD for-gone

Yup, the UK is miles behind in this stuff. VERY few UK doctors have much knowledge and I would not expect a nurse to know anything definative unless they specialised in childrens mental health.

Even amongst professionals in that sector there is a considerable resistance to the idea that ADD/ADHD is anything but bad parenting and/or diet which is hardly surprising given the diet and parenting that many of the kids they see receive.

There was a study done over here a couple of years ago which highlighted MASSIVE differences in the number of children being prescribed Ritalin between health board areas. In some areas the numbers were close to zero.....in others it appeared that significant numbers of kids were takng Ritalin.

Basically most of our medics don't know jack **** about ADD/ADHD and of those that do actually read up about it very few think it continues into adulthood.

So given that there are only about 6 - 12 experienced and well informed consultant/doctor level Adult ADD specialists in the WHOLE of the UK to take the opinion of a UK nurse as a guide is not a good idea.

kilted

Like, I am totally this close | | to just makeing up my own disorder! even among the wierd a feel wierd...thats just wierd!
=vhan runs off into the distance with magic markers to begin brainstorming ideas for his own disorder=

Oh no! You have a clear case of Vhan Syndrome! But why you? Why?? WHY????:)

How did the nurse explain people with AD/HD who don't live in America? Or were they too busy waiting for their neural pathways to develop? Duh duh head.
Look at it this way - they are not QUALIFIED to make such a diagnosis. So what value is there in it? You may as well go to a tarot card reader.

I like forms especially forms which require me to find official documentation and enter numbers which are really long in black ink and with hyphens and then to get a new number every 7.24 days which I need to ... ... ... That gives me the heebeejeebees just thinking about that. My better half loves forms, I can't stand them, and break out in a cold sweat when I see one.

Vhan, this one of the issues with ADDers. We always seem to go around in circles. Forgetting what we had learnt, or what we know. Sometimes the interconnectedness of our brains just lose track, and we end up thinking.... Well, just how did I come to that conclusion? It's a natural progression. If you take an NTer's brain, you will discover that they tend to build up lots of redundant interconnects - like a well worn path. An ADDers brain doesn't have the ability to develop any well worn paths, because the route is different every time. Therefore, when we do lose a neural pathway, we will also lose a connection - which can leave us standing out in the middle of the field wondering how the heck we got there. Better to concentrate, however, not on what you have, but how to fix it. If an expert has said 'this', then concentrate on how to fix the 'this'. If you don't agree with the 'this', then look for a second opinion.

- which can leave us standing out in the middle of the field wondering how the heck we got there.

:-)

talking heads
'once in a lifetime'

And you may find yourself living in a shotgun shack
And you may find yourself in another part of the world
And you may find yourself behind the wheel of a large automobile
And you may find yourself in a beautiful house, with a beautiful
Wife
And you may ask yourself-well...how did I get here?


I think the key is to see that *thinking* is the key.

We think we think to get money and to buy a beautiful wife with a beautiful jalopy -
however -
that is not correct Captain Vhangelista -

-no Captain -
itsa' the 'thinking' thatta' matters -

- without going into details -
thinkin' means electricity - and power surging through our veins -
- is why we're dreamy multithreaded processors - skipdreamin' our way through butterfly (not those Vhan) -
adorned fields.

oi!
... ... which of you disordered freaks has mi'net -?-

ho well!

... ... so which of you disordered freaks has mi'BFG -?-

lock
and
load

flambnonayedd butt erfly (now *those* Vhan)

:-)

Basically most of our medics don't know jack **** about ADD/ADHD and of those that do actually read up about it very few think it continues into adulthood.


Yay, that made me smile because it sounds liek a good long way of saying "lision, the doctors dont know #@$% about this, ingore them"


Vhan, this one of the issues with ADDers. We always seem to go around in circles. Forgetting what we had learnt, or what we know. Sometimes the interconnectedness of our brains just lose track, and we end up thinking.... Well, just how did I come to that conclusion? It's a natural progression. If you take an NTer's brain, you will discover that they tend to build up lots of redundant interconnects - like a well worn path. An ADDers brain doesn't have the ability to develop any well worn paths, because the route is different every time. Therefore, when we do lose a neural pathway, we will also lose a connection - which can leave us standing out in the middle of the field wondering how the heck we got there. Better to concentrate, however, not on what you have, but how to fix it. If an expert has said 'this', then concentrate on how to fix the 'this'. If you don't agree with the 'this', then look for a second opinion

Describes me too a tee, my teachers are always asking me how I came up with "such-and-such" answer.

If there is one person on the earth who could take what they saw watching anime (mature-level japeneese cartoons) and regurgitate it at a teacher with a load of information that doesn't make sence, and have it sound like shakespere himself wrote it, its me, my inspirations make absoluteley no sence when It comes to my work, but I can't think of any examples right now, was I supposed to be talking about som....OH~

thats right, I always wan'ted to sit down with a non adder and ask questions like "so....how do YOU think?" seriousley study them, I think that would be FASINATEING!

see. we could all get togeather and build this new plane I saw =vhan holds up blueprints for a flying sauser= and we fly around at night and...

see. we could all get togeather and build this new plane I saw =vhan holds up blueprints for a flying sauser= and we fly around at night and...

... taunt nonADDer vacuous flasks with difficult questions like
'and why exactly do you bother ?' form filler # 7 of 9 blargillion.

wind 'em up in the morning
tuck 'em in at night
decommission at 70 years of age

nonADDer life is not a happy one -
- if djou can't sleep

count nonADDers filling forms

#1 pointless nonADD process
#2 waste of a life
#3 why ain't your soul crying ?
#4
this life is more than just a readthrough

nonADDer life is not a happy one -

There's a lot of NTers that'd disagree with that. Unfortunately, some of those that 'think like an ADDer' are forced into corporate drone culture and end up being that way. So we're only left with a handful that still disagree.



count nonADDers filling forms

#2 waste of a life

You never know, they may enjoy counting forms!



#3 why ain't your soul crying ?

What soul? :)

What soul? :)


the only mantra that counts -

what matters ?

if it don't, then i'm pretty sure that it doesn't,
so we shouldn't and maybe won't
if we didn't 'won't', mightn't we validly pose the question

why n'o't ?

:-)

'forms' 're just my speak for 'filler' in a life of finite span -
- 'no offence' meant :-) to anything other than the systems which thrive on 'documentation'

... just found out that all self-employed high tax payers here - had a tax loop hole (which still exists) -
which allow/s/ed them to drop down to the standard tax bracket (which national average earners are on) -
-<- and that's what I'm getting at by 'form fillers'

so many hidden words, ways and forms -
- that the actual point (of the paperwork) is hidden
- and systems topple into hopelessly unfair

apparently attempts to close the loop hole were rejected by a court
(courts being presided over by high wage-earning self employed judges and lawyers)

I wonder - was their decision a surprise ?
... ... don't lawyers go to bar school ?
- is that because they're taught how to dispense beer ?
or
- because it's important to achieve a formal degree in proper etiquette behind bars ?

Vhan,

I am discovering exactly what you mean about everyone being an "expert" on ADHD and their various and sundry derivative conspiracy theories.

This is why I keep a "Bull$h1t Flag" in my back pocket, so I can toss it when ever someone's mouth is engaged in illegal motion. (By the way it's starting to get rather tattered and frayed by now; it's a good thing I buy in bulk...)

Wanna get even with the experts? Learn as much as you can about ADHD, so you can pinhole and diffuse each of their arguments with substantive facts; in my experience the "experts" rapidly descend into sputtering frustration.

If ADHD is the reason we are different than others and, therefore, think and function differently than others, why be concerned about what "normally functioning" folks think is "wrong" with us and how to "fix" it...it wouldn't apply to us anyways:rolleyes:

Keep thinking for yourself and everything will be alright...

ESM

I am discovering exactly what you mean about everyone being an "expert" on ADHD and their various and sundry derivative conspiracy theories.

Yep, unfortunately because ADD is largely subjective, (and by this I mean a non-qualitive formal diagnosis), it has a tendancy to lean towards bias... either way. People can't, (and won't), understand it 'cause it's not simple.

Geee! Even NTers want things simple.

So, they formulate their own perception -> therefore formalizing their own ADD construct, which is inherently tainted.

If we had a sure fire way of finding ADD - like a stud finder, then people would be less skeptical about it.

But, alas, poor Yorrick.....

I knew him....

... or at least I would....

... if only I could remember.

Ok, let me take this from the top.

It started when I was talking to a nurse, it so happend that he was origionally from england, and he started talking about how the american medical system is corrupt, and doctors are perscribeing medication to people who don't really need it because they profit off of it.

Within 5 minutes this guy had me compleatley convinced that I don't have add, I'm just lazy!

He looked at me and said "can you make yourself consentrate on me while I'm talking to you?"

I COULD!

he said "see, add people couldn't do that, they simpley cant, your not ADD"


I'm dumbfounded...really...because the next day I was spinning in circles during class (litterally) the teacher asked me to sit down, and I did...then I glazed...over...bored...so...

should I really trust this guy?

You'd have to be extremely arrogant and self-absorbed to think you have the right to convince somebody they are lazy rather than have ADHD. I would highly recommend you ignore the sod and if you don't believe your psychiatrist is giving you the correct diagnosis, you could do one of two things:

1) Get a second opinion from a psych you know acknowledges the existence of ADHD but is stringent about diagnosing it.
2) Try ADHD meds. In people with ADHD, psychostimulants which increase the amount of dopamine available (whether through reuptake inhibition or what) have a seeming inverse effect. That is: if amphetamines (mainly dextro-amphetamine, methylphenidate and methamphetamine) having a soothing, calming or relaxing effect you very likely do have ADHD. In normal people these drugs "speed" people up, while they "slow" us down.

I have ADHD. I can concentrate when I want to, for short periods of time, or if the subject is fascinating/personally interesting (hyperfocus).

Also, ADHD is not an adjective, it is a noun. I get extremely frustrated when people say "He went totally ADD on me" or "I am ADD". I also hate this because it's symptomatic of society stereotyping ADHD and confusing it with a hyperstimulated digital generation.

More than 5% of the population has ADHD. That's 1/20. If you suspect you have it, it's most probable you do. This number should technically increase exponentially up to a point (given a nice starting population of 5%), since ADHD is an extremely dominant heritable neural diversity mutation (in 80% of cases), and people with ADHD are 4 times more likely to have children than 'normies'. Natural evolution in all its glory, kiddies.

We are the future, and while for now that means we have to try and conform to 'normal society', eventually we will be 'normal society'.

Oh and roughly 3/4 of ADHD cases continue into adult-hood.

Well that was fun to type! I just had some tea made from 4 teabags so I have a caffeine high. Which, interestingly, is slightly different in people with ADHD as caffeine is also a mild dopamine re-uptake inhibition stimulant (among other things) - it focuses and 'slows' the mind (http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_caffeine_do_to_an_ADHD_child), so my use of it right now is a form of self-medication.

I learnt most of this stuff during "knowledge binges" and with the help of wikipedia, google and ADD/ADHD books. Sometimes I get interested in a topic and research it for a few hours to a few days then get bored.

I'll shut up now. Hopefully I've stirred some controversy neurons.

When people bring up idiotic arguments about ADHD, I like to remind them that whilst a lot of people seem to be under the impression that there is some big controversy over whether or not ADHD is actually a problem, its actually one of the most intensely researched mental issues ever, and that the medical community isn't divided as much as united against a few lunatics who seem to refuse to admit the obvious existence of ADHD.

In general though, I prefer to keep my ADHD to myself and avoid all those pointless arguments.

yeah hes a nurse and uh nurses don't have the full qualification to diagnose adhd/add so dont trust him.