I'm watching a rerun (new for me) episode of House. The episode is called LINES IN THE SAND and the patient is a boy who has Autism. The writers put these wonderful lines in character House's mouth and I couldn't help but feel they apply to ADHD/ADD as well as Autism.

from House MD Quotes:

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Spoken like a true circle queen. See skinny socially privileged white people get to draw this neat little circle, and everyone inside the circle is normal, anyone outside the circle should be beaten, broken and reset so they can be brought into the circle. Failing that, they should be institutionalized or worse, pitied.
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[referring to his patient, an autistic child] Why would you feel sorry for someone who gets to opt out of the inane courteous formalities which are utterly meaningless, insincere and therefore degrading? This kid doesn't have to pretend to be interested in your back pain or your excretions or your grandma's itchy place. Can you imagine how liberating it would be to live a life free of all the mind-numbing social niceties? I don't pity this kid, I envy him.
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Yeah, House is my favorite TV show. I can't wait until they start showing new episodes again.

I like at the end of that episode where the autistic kid seems to use all his willpower to give eye contact with House and gives him his PSP.

I love that show!!
its the shiz!!
mean quotes!!

I like at the end of that episode where the autistic kid seems to use all his willpower to give eye contact with House and gives him his PSP.Then Dr. Wilson says, "That's a ten." Good one.

I love that show!!
its the shiz!!
mean quotes!!And shiz is a good thing? :o

i LOVE House. wasnt interested in the beginning, never watched it...and then one day fell upon a House marathon by accident and was instantly hooked. Now that's the kind of person i could really get along with. :)

My all-time favorite episode.
The writers can dance around the issue as much as they want, but House is absolute aspie no matter how hard they insist he will not get a "label"! He has worked hard to learn the rules of social interaction from a scientific perspective and decided not to play the stupid game. Except for the time he wanted to do the "right" thing with Cameron and had trouble deciding between the formal and informal etiquette of flowers.

<dl><dd>Dr. Wilson: I'm going to read you something. "Asperger Syndrome is a mild and rare form of autism. It's typically characterized by difficulty establishing friendships and playing with peers, trouble accepting conventional social rules and they dislike any change in setting or routine." Or broadloom. It doesn't say that last part, but you get my point.</dd><dd>Dr. Cuddy: House doesn't have Asperger's. The diagnosis is much simpler, he's a jerk.</dd></dl>Nah. He's all aspie (And since when is that *rare?) and I'm in love. ;-)

I really enjoyed this episode, although I wanted to shake the parents. There is a difference between not necessarily disrupting the child's schedules and patterns so there isn't any more stress than necessary - and never giving them any chance to build tolerance to changes. Our little Aspie isn't nearly as low on the spectrum as the little guy in the show, but if we don't help her learn to tolerate changes and unpredicitability now, what will happen when her mommy and daddy aren't here to protect her from all that? How will she cope?

I'm so thankful we finally began seeing a family therapist and he convinced her mommy and daddy that they don't have to wrap her in cotton and protect her (for different reasons... she is daddy's little princess and mommy just doesn't want to have to deal with the meltdowns) so gramma (me) was the only one who expected her to develop any skills of her own. Although it hasn't been easy for me either, I do have to laugh now that I'm letting her pour her own milk and make her own PB&J sammies because she doesn't even make as much mess as her older (ADHD) sister does. ;)

I really enjoyed this episode, although I wanted to shake the parents. There is a difference between not necessarily disrupting the child's schedules and patterns so there isn't any more stress than necessary - and never giving them any chance to build tolerance to changes. Our little Aspie isn't nearly as low on the spectrum as the little guy in the show, but if we don't help her learn to tolerate changes and unpredicitability now, what will happen when her mommy and daddy aren't here to protect her from all that? How will she cope?

I'm so thankful we finally began seeing a family therapist and he convinced her mommy and daddy that they don't have to wrap her in cotton and protect her (for different reasons... she is daddy's little princess and mommy just doesn't want to have to deal with the meltdowns) so gramma (me) was the only one who expected her to develop any skills of her own. Although it hasn't been easy for me either, I do have to laugh now that I'm letting her pour her own milk and make her own PB&J sammies because she doesn't even make as much mess as her older (ADHD) sister does. ;)

I agree with you wholeheartedly! I'll never be able to change my son's preference for routine, his sensitivities to stimulation, or his frustration with arbitrary rules. I do have to teach him to cope with the fact that the world isn't about to change for him though. Yes, it means arguments, meltdowns and many headaches, but better to start them with a child who is smaller than me than to deal with a previously sheltered young man who is bigger, stronger, and has car keys!

I agree with all of you! I'm not much of a TV watcher, movies yes, TV shows no. But House is a great show. It must be great to be able to not care what others think and still be respected. To bad it's all a fantasy.

doesn't have to pretend

ADDers can't pretend -

- great way of raising the veil on what really matters.

what matters ?

Change not charity

This kid doesn't have to pretend to be interested in your back pain or your excretions or your grandma's itchy place.
(i) back pain

charity says 'oh - I am sorry'
change says 'here's the mechanism and solution eg 'effects of the ascent of man - phototropism in man (on our mortal coil container vessel (the mother ship :-) ))' '
Solutions to mechanical (rheumatological) disorders of western living through taking this train of thought.

(ii) excretion problems

charity says 'oh - I am sorry'
change says 'here's the mechanism and solution eg 'changing patterns of internal metabolism mandating a radical alteration in profile of diet which also changes with age' '
Solutions to digestive, cardiovascular and metabolic disorders of western living through taking this train of thought.


(iii) itchy places

charity says 'oh - I am sorry'
change says 'here's the mechanism and solution eg 'evolutionary re-use of anti-parasitic mechanisms in the development of mind leading to an epidemic in eczema (mechanism - histamine the immune cell product and neurotransmitter) throughout the population with access to information' '
Solutions to immune disorders of western living through taking this train of thought.

where tie-ups occur
eg
rheumatoid arthritis - disease of mechanical + immunological
Crohn's disease - disease of digestive + immunological

is 'the house' like 'celebrity big brother' ?

that's what I thought at the start of this thread
though after skimming it sounds more like fiction.

I know (!) wikipedia time

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ooops!


:-)

I understand - it's a telly program about doctors like 'Quincy MD - forensic pathologist'.

is 'the house' like 'celebrity big brother' ?

that's what I thought at the start of this thread
though after skimming it sounds more like fiction.

I know (!) wikipedia time

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:-)

I understand - it's a telly program about doctors like 'Quincy MD - forensic pathologist'.

Yep, except that these doctors are trying to figure out how to prevent the patients from dying, not figure out what killed them.

I really enjoyed this episode, although I wanted to shake the parents. There is a difference between not necessarily disrupting the child's schedules and patterns so there isn't any more stress than necessary - and never giving them any chance to build tolerance to changes. Our little Aspie isn't nearly as low on the spectrum as the little guy in the show, but if we don't help her learn to tolerate changes and unpredicitability now, what will happen when her mommy and daddy aren't here to protect her from all that? How will she cope?;)I clenched my jaw too when the dad told the Dr. not to interrupt his son's game. Believe it or not, there are parents who tell school staff exactly those kinds of things. Good for you for knowing better.

I loved the scene where Dr. House put the gas mask on first to show the boy and repeated the action for reinforcement. When the good doctor, under the influence of the gas, walked into the supply cart was hilarious.

I understand - it's a telly program about doctors like 'Quincy MD - forensic pathologist'.SB, you would love the show. Is it available in Britain?

i LOVE House. wasnt interested in the beginning, never watched it...and then one day fell upon a House marathon by accident and was instantly hooked. Now that's the kind of person i could really get along with. :)I thought I was the only one who did this. I am terrible at remembering a t.v. schedule and get busy doing other things even when I do remember a show I want to watch - other than the news. I love the t.v. show marathons, especially when nursing a virus.

I clenched my jaw too when the dad told the Dr. not to interrupt his son's game. Believe it or not, there are parents who tell school staff exactly those kinds of things. Good for you for knowing better.

I loved the scene where Dr. House put the gas mask on first to show the boy and repeated the action for reinforcement. When the good doctor, under the influence of the gas, walked into the supply cart was hilarious.




Yes! I loved that scene too. Unfortunately miming an action for my granddaughter doesn't work quite that well, although I wish someone at the dentist's office had tried doing something like that to show her what to expect. Once she gets upset, no explanation can get through to her.

Yes! I loved that scene too. Unfortunately miming an action for my granddaughter doesn't work quite that well, although I wish someone at the dentist's office had tried doing something like that to show her what to expect. Once she gets upset, no explanation can get through to her.

Ding ding ding! There's the key. Teaching them to recognize their triggers so they can adjust/ask for help adjusting/understanding. Can't do that without our learning the triggers first. And we can't learn the triggers or practice adjustments without, well, triggering!;)

Lunacie, you've reminded me of my very ADHD son's first visit to the dentist. He was an adorable three year old and the staff were on him like glue and he loved the attention from the nice ladies and riding up and down in the chair. In walks the dentist and the whole atmosphere changed. My son would not open his mouth! The dentist was a saint. He never changed his tone of voice or indicated any frustration on his part. At one point, I even asked if it would be better if I left the room, but Dr. Sweet (great name for a dentist, eh?)just shook his head. Finally, twenty minutes later, my son opened his mouth to let the cookie monster finger puppet count his teeth. I was exhausted by the whole ordeal.

I've been looking -
I don't know
Hugh Laurie is very famous here

though as a comic

oh my gosh - he's changed rather for that program

hmmm... ... ...

one of his best friends in real life is one of my favourite people -
he's called Stephen Fry and is very :-)
bipolar

- that's very in the Matt S. sense -
where is he these days?

whilst I'm looking for House -
you have to do me a favour and keep an eye open for these two series also (they're both a few years old) -

---series I---

Cracker

~s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_%28UK_TV_series%29)~


Cracker is the title of a television crime series in the United Kingdom.

The series concerned a criminal psychologist (or "cracker").

Fitz is a classic antihero, unfaithful to his wife, alcoholic, a chain smoker, overweight, addicted to gambling, manic, foulmouthed and sarcastic; and yet cerebral and excellent at his speciality: getting into the heads of violent criminals.

As Fitz confesses in "Brotherly Love": "I drink too much, I smoke too much, I gamble too much. I am too much."

And the other television program - is the same idea - but much more uplifting in nature

---series II---

Halifax f.p.

~s (http://www.australiantelevision.net/hfp/halifax.html)~
Forensic psychiatrist Dr. Jane Halifax, a psychological sleuth whose precinct is the dark side of the human mind. Utilised by both the police and legal professions, Jane lives in a world of lies and shadows where the truth is never what it seems.
I had no idea how lovely Melbourne,Australia was after watching this series.

Ohhh my gosh !
:eek:
Since when has the dark side of the mind been spiritually uplifting -
:confused:
I must be REALLY depressed
:rolleyes:
darn!
:cool:

so ;) says "... and what am I
- chopped liver?"

-*-

So we have an American- European- and Australasian- -subcontinent presentation of the solution of problems using psychological methods.

Wait a cotton pickin' minute -
thatsa' blimmin' ADDF
- they've only gone and copied off us in a strange kinda' 'we weren't around when a couple of those three series were first aired'
kinda' spooky (wooo!) way

:-)

Heck !
(from wikipedia)

Dr Gregory House uses the Socratic method and differential diagnosis ... ... differential diagnosis ~aka~ delta delta

(man!
love it)

totally cool !!!

off to pi pi

ok - you can sit here little happy smilie
;)

"... thank you Uncle SB"

'you're welcome' :-)

off to pi pi


(all the excitement - you see)

SB, while you are sleuthing t.v. programs, have a look for one I know you'd love called NUMB3RS. They use math to solve murder investigations. I can't believe I'm discussing t.v. shows. Things must be improving in that area.

no way!

they're using the 3 epsilon switch

geeze - we've the Greek Count from Sesame street on this thread :-)

thanks for numb3rs


:-)

gamma delta epsilon pi

covered

~ alpha to omega (the end) ~

alpha gamma delta epsilon pi omega

yay!
(getting there)

Ding ding ding! There's the key. Teaching them to recognize their triggers so they can adjust/ask for help adjusting/understanding. Can't do that without our learning the triggers first. And we can't learn the triggers or practice adjustments without, well, triggering!;)

Maybe it's just 'cause I'm so impatient (ADHD gramma eh?) that I don't want to humor her and jolly her along. She needs to learn that in order to get along in the world there are limitations and that not everyone is going to cater to her like her mommy and daddy. Thankfully I don't have to buck them both at the same time, they're divorced. And going to family therapy has really helped both of them see what they are doing to help the little one, and also what is not so helpful.

It's helping me too, but I still get impatient with her when she's stuck on one pattern or one idea and can't seem to break free. But hey, I'm good when she's overloaded and heading for a meltdown, and I take her outside to sit and talk quietly for a while, or take her off into my room to watch some tv and just chill out without her big sister bugging her.

That's something I made sure was included in her IEP, the chance to go to the resource room when the regular classroom (or lunchroom) gets too overwhelming and she needs to chill out for a bit.


Whoa, I think I got off track there. Kinda makes me wish our family therapist or even our family doctor was more like Dr. House. The therapist is more like the lady doctor who works with house, and the pediatrician is more like the Aussie guy. Gosh, maybe I'm like the House guy? :eek:

Whoa, I think I got off track there. Kinda makes me wish our family therapist or even our family doctor was more like Dr. House. The therapist is more like the lady doctor who works with house, and the pediatrician is more like the Aussie guy. Gosh, maybe I'm like the House guy? :eek:

Oh, I wish I knew where to find the link to the "Which House character are you?" quiz. My husband is House. I'm Cuddy. Apropo, no? :D

Sounds like fun ... runs of to google for House quiz... ah here it is.

http://www.quizilla.com/users/Phrygiana/quizzes/Which%20House%20Character%20Are%20You%3F/

Hmm, it says I'm Cuddy too?


sometimes it feels like you're babysitting a bunch of petulant children


Well, duh, because I am. There's the 10 year old with ADHD and the 6 year old with Autism and the cat and the dog with their social issues... and there's me of course. teeheehee.

"We are selfish, base animals, crawling across the earth...because we've got brains - if we try real hard we can occasionally aspire to something that is less than pure evil". The only House quote that I was so affected by that I wrote it down. Don't know which episode. A blond woman patient was trying to convince him that he really does care - and we as the audience, suspect that he does, but of course he will not or CAN NOT allow himself to admit it (even to himself). Story of my life. And the quote perfectly describes the opinion of the human race that I've held most of my life. Perhaps it's more accurate to say that it's how I see myself.