View Full Version : do adhd people tend to not wear jeans or pants cause it feels weird


marytza
03-31-08, 05:43 PM
shorts only is what they wear im just curious

Lunacie
03-31-08, 05:58 PM
I have ADHD (inattentive type) and I wear jeans all the time.

But I also have something called Sensory Integration Disorder and I can only wear soft t-shirts and that type of thing. ADHD and SID are two different things, I just happen to have them both.

SID can also make a person extremely sensitive to noises or lights or smells, anything that affects any of the senses.

Is that what you're talking about? :confused:

marytza
03-31-08, 06:09 PM
no like not wearing jeans cus how feels etc is what i mean

Mincan
03-31-08, 06:22 PM
I didn't wear jeans until high school. Before that I only wore track pants as I felt them comfortable. I never wore underwear until high school. I anticipated going to high school and being tortured for these two things, so I did it myself.

I am extremely fickle physically. It's hard for me to get into a body position I am comfortable in whether sitting, lying, or walking... about the only time I'm happy physically is when my thoughts are elsewhere...I'm sure it's all connected to being in the moment and such and ADHD/OCD/Tourettes hybrid...

Fuse
03-31-08, 07:45 PM
As I kid I hated wearing jeans. It was too scratchy or tight or something.

When I went to uni I saw it was all people wore so I gave it another go. Now I barely wear anything else.

TigerZ
03-31-08, 08:33 PM
it might depend on the quality of the jeans.
i wear jeans all the time, but when i spend the extra money on a good pair, oh man.... so soft and comfortable...

shop around, see if you find a good set
from what ive worn, Lucky Brand makes the best ones.

ozchris
03-31-08, 09:35 PM
I used to hate jeans because of how they felt. You really have to 'break them in' and run them through the washing machine a few times and they feel much better afterwards.

HighFunctioning
03-31-08, 09:39 PM
shorts only is what they wear im just curious

Maybe in Florida, but definitely not in the northern states during certain months of the year. :)

Imnapl
03-31-08, 09:56 PM
Or like for two days in Canada.

SuzzanneX
03-31-08, 11:55 PM
LOL! ...I wear pants!

marytza
04-01-08, 12:03 AM
ya cause i know someone who whine and complain about it 24/7

Luthien
04-01-08, 12:25 AM
Or like for two days in Canada.
lol - well, I see people wearing shorts *all year long* in Vancouver! Rain or rain or rain or .. oh, hey, shine!

Don't really like jeans too, unless they're comfy.
And I recognise the not wanting to wear tight things, or synthetic fibers (freak me out), or necks or cuffs that are tight .. or any jewelry .. don't even wear a watch.
Oh, and bra's that look like they are designed by a civil engineer (adds up to 90% of them). And underwear with these sharp thin elastic rims *ouch* and the worst of all, that insane underwear that seems to be made out of shoe strings .. I cannot imagine that someone would wear that except at gun point.

I do like loose fitting cotton shirts, skirts .. oh wait - exception to the "not tight" rule .. I do like tights (under a skirt) and also mountain boots, bc they give some sense of physical stability (my equilibrium is not that good)
ya cause i know someone who whine and complain about it 24/7You mean clothes or the weather in Canada?

Imnapl
04-01-08, 12:32 AM
That's because Vancouver has had a long drought period. When I lived in Vancouver they still got rain, for days, and months . . . . ne're a ray of sunshine. It took me years not to automatically grab an umbrella on my way out the door.

Luthien, ditto on the clothes and jewelry. I wear a watch at work because it's a necessity.

Daveg
04-01-08, 01:14 AM
Growing up I hated jeans and refused to wear them until I was 16 went shopping and found a pair I liked. I've been wearing jeans almost every day since :)

SuzzanneX
04-01-08, 01:21 AM
wrong thread.

whoops..

bluebird2972
04-01-08, 04:57 AM
You know what I hate about jeans, if they're tight it's hard to get things in and out of the pockets, and if you put items in there you can see the bulge really clearly. That doesn't look very feminine, bulgy pockets!!!

theta
04-01-08, 08:39 AM
shorts only is what they wear im just curious

Does not apply to me but strange sensory problems, which might manifest itself as intolerance to certain types of fabrics can occur with some ADHDers(or people on the autism spectrum).

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47578

That thread mentions a possible subtype of ADHD that can cause sensory overstimulation (that I think I may have).

Mantis
04-01-08, 10:35 AM
I NEVER wear jeans : P

NonSequitur
04-01-08, 10:52 AM
I wear jeans all the time, they're the most comfortable kind of clothes for me.

I'm like Luthien and Imnapl with clothes and things. They have to be comfy and fit just right. Too loose can be as uncomfortable for me as too tight. And I almost never wear skirts or dresses. They make me look fat(ter).

For working out, I wear shorts and don't like long pants/tights because they're too warm. Even when it's cold. Except one pair I have made of micro fibre that wicks away moisture, and that's the only kind of synthetic I like to wear.

In summer, for the couple of days it's really hot :p , I'll wear shorts, but I prefer crop pants, because different textures touching the back of my knees really bother me.

We need a "special needs" clothing shop just for us, don't we?;)

Lynx777
04-01-08, 11:21 AM
When I was growing up I would wear jeans but only after running them through at least 2 wash & dry cycles. Sometimes more. Now days most of the jeans you buy are pre-washed, and that is good enough for me "most of the time". The only way I can wear sweaters is if I have on a cotton shirt under it. Even cotton sweaters drive me nuts.

Brakna
04-01-08, 11:44 AM
Some ADDers also are highly sensitive people (HSP). So touching certain fabrics or materials can cause some strong reactions in those who are HSP.

Mincan
04-01-08, 11:46 AM
Wow, I guess its all true, I do have issues with clothing, but doesn't most everyone? Not just ADHD.

That doesn't look very feminine, bulgy pockets!!!

That's what a purse is for! It's almost warm enough for me to start using my man-bag again... I too cannot stand or physically am able to put all my **** in my shorts pockets in the summer.... besides a bag is awesomely practical and functional and accessories are da ****!

edge of reason
04-01-08, 11:47 AM
i love my jeans. Wear them all the time. :)

MJwatson
04-01-08, 01:04 PM
I didn't wear jeans until high school. Before that I only wore track pants as I felt them comfortable. I never wore underwear until high school.

I LOVE track pants! I have like 10 suits and countless ones for when I go camping or kayaking or whatever. T-shirts are tough because of my chest issue..either waaay to big or waaaay to small! The BEST t-shirst for women are the Life-is-good brand. They are sooo soft and fit great!

I had to quote the underwear thing because it's hilarious....and when I was in high school I wore boys boxers instead of girl underwear! SOO comfy.. OK this is TMI :)

Jeans never look right on me. they are always to long...even petite. and either the waist is too tight and the hips are to big...or the hip part fits but I can't button them. Sad, but true!:o

Mincan
04-01-08, 01:19 PM
OK this is TMI :)

As long as it's presented decently, there is no such thing as TMI ;)

Luthien
04-01-08, 01:40 PM
Wow, I guess its all true, I do have issues with clothing, but doesn't most everyone? Not just ADHD.

my mother always complained that I was wayy more 'difficult' with clothes then my sisters .. no collars, no cuffs, nothing wool (horribly itchy! :eek:), nothing tight, nothing synthetic, etc etc etc .. and I hear it a lot from other ADD people, not so much from others. But true, that's not "hard data" :)

Still, I bet that there is an opportunity for some clothing company / entrepreneur to specialise in clothes for people who are sensitive to this, be it ADD of other people ...

...TMI
what's TMI?

MJwatson
04-01-08, 01:54 PM
what's TMI?


Oh..hee hee Too Much Information....

who really needed to know I wore boys boxers for my underwear...but if mincan can mention he wore none.......at least I'm not the only weirdo! :p

Mary
04-01-08, 02:10 PM
my mother always complained that I was wayy more 'difficult' with clothes then my sisters .. no collars, no cuffs, nothing wool (horribly itchy! :eek:), nothing tight, nothing synthetic, etc etc etc .. and I hear it a lot from other ADD people, not so much from others. But true, that's not "hard data" :)

Still, I bet that there is an opportunity for some clothing company / entrepreneur to specialise in clothes for people who are sensitive to this, be it ADD of other people ...


what's TMI?

The person who came up with tagless garments was a lifesaver for me. Anything touching the back of my neck, sends me through the roof. My mom would literally take the tags out and resew that seam, so that I wouldn't complain.

I can't stand the seams in socks either. The socks that have extra support around the arch also bother me.

I'm also allergic to wool ... and some polyesters.

Pre-washed jeans for me. If I get some that haven't been pre-washed. They're way too stiff and make me itch.

I'm also allergic to certain types of tape. It leaves a rash. So, when I go to the doctor I ask for the cloth tape. Any bandages we buy, are also cloth.

I'm allergic to certain kinds of soaps, because of the dyes used in them. We usually get plain white anti-bacterial soap. Or clear liquid soap.

Oops...got off on a tangent.

Never gave it a thought that it could be SID.... until I started reading in the forums. Along with the allergies I already suffer. Needless to say, I'm so very thankful that I've learned what I have, through reading about others troubles in this area.

QueensU_girl
04-01-08, 02:20 PM
Argh!!!

SB_UK
04-01-08, 02:23 PM
Argh!!!

says it all -

until we out evolve the need to do #1 to #2 inclusive and produce associated viscous secretions from this general part of our anatomy

can we at lease use duct tape ?

Mincan
:-)
not even newspaper ?

SB_UK
04-01-08, 02:26 PM
what's TMI?



but if mincan can mention he wore none


THE MINCAN IXPOSE/

:eek::o:eek:
:p:cool::p
:rolleyes::D:rolleyes:

Mincan
04-01-08, 02:34 PM
Haha, well I never liked bathing at that point in my life either... now that's too much information... I realise of course now it wasn't an aversion to bathing, it's just that bathing meant I had to come inside from outside where I was playing and this was unacceptable damnit!

Now it's the same way, but I schedule it in because it's polite to smell not like a man around other people.

mhyper790
04-01-08, 02:40 PM
I can't stand tags on my shirt.. they get me all scratchy and wiggly jiggly.. I rip them or cut them off.. :)

SB_UK
04-01-08, 02:52 PM
it's polite to smell not like a man around other people.


- a class act -

you guys
(all of) you guys

('specially you amykins)

watch the mincan
and learn

(amykins - do you ever wash your gloves ?)
thought not

and

do people make sniffin' noises around you ?

eh? eh? ehhhh?

Pongykins

aha :-)
Mincan will prevail

(now where's our national anthem ???)

:-)

be upstanding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nebe1zuEtbc&feature=related

and waggle (if you please)

->- the amykins 'longpong'song

Lunacie
04-01-08, 03:50 PM
The person who came up with tagless garments was a lifesaver for me. Anything touching the back of my neck, sends me through the roof. My mom would literally take the tags out and resew that seam, so that I wouldn't complain.

I can't stand the seams in socks either. The socks that have extra support around the arch also bother me.

I'm also allergic to wool ... and some polyesters.

Pre-washed jeans for me. If I get some that haven't been pre-washed. They're way too stiff and make me itch.

I'm also allergic to certain types of tape. It leaves a rash. So, when I go to the doctor I ask for the cloth tape. Any bandages we buy, are also cloth.

I'm allergic to certain kinds of soaps, because of the dyes used in them. We usually get plain white anti-bacterial soap. Or clear liquid soap.

Oops...got off on a tangent.

Never gave it a thought that it could be SID.... until I started reading in the forums. Along with the allergies I already suffer. Needless to say, I'm so very thankful that I've learned what I have, through reading about others troubles in this area.

Follows Mary's tangent ... I finally began making my own laundry detergent because I'm so allergic, and it's also cheaper. WOOT. PM me for the recipe if you're interested.

Mary
04-01-08, 04:08 PM
shorts only is what they wear im just curious

Marytza, I know people like that. They wear shorts all winter long, even in below zero temps.

Some do because their metabolism is so high that they can't stand the extra heat of long pants.

Some do, because they can't stand the texture of the clothing.

Some do, just because they want to make people wonder why.

Whichever the case may be.. they look silly when it's 30 below with 3 feet of snow. LOL

SB_UK
04-01-08, 07:39 PM
I finally began making my own laundry detergent because I'm so allergicwe switched to the softest nonbio for this reason

how do you make yours?


Marytza, I know people like that. They wear shorts all winter long, even in below zero temps.
Some do because their metabolism is so high that they can't stand the extra heat of long pants.
Some do, because they can't stand the texture of the clothing.
Some do, just because they want to make people wonder why.
Whichever the case may be.. they look silly when it's 30 below with 3 feet of snow. LOL

sandals in winter -

I hate warmth -
sweat like a blimmin' sweaty thing too.


cold can't be too close to absolute zero though :-)

I'd like some kind of active cooling device -
kinda' like capillary ice cubes.

granite floor tiles and windows are my friend -
use them to cool down my hands and feet year round.

wives are useful too -
she gets real cold

(that's where I come in).

calicoguineapig
04-01-08, 07:56 PM
I wear jeans all the time :).

Lunacie
04-01-08, 08:09 PM
Follows Mary's tangent ... I finally began making my own laundry detergent because I'm so allergic, and it's also cheaper. WOOT. PM me for the recipe if you're interested.

we switched to the softest nonbio for this reason

how do you make yours?


Grate half a bar of soap (I used Castille soap) into a large cooking pot.
Add at least a gallon of water, probably a little more.
Simmer over low heat until soap is melted into the water.
Stir in 1/2 cup of washing soda (Arm&Hammer from the laundry aisle in the store), let simmer a few minutes more until well dissolved.
Pour carefully into used laundry detergent jug or any other container that you can shake and pour from.
When using, shake first and then use about 1/2 cup per load of laundry, more for larger or heavily soiled loads, less for smaller loads. It will be about the consistency of Chinese egg drog soup.

You can also add 1/2 cup of borax (20 Mule Team - also in the laundry aisle). And you can add a couple of drops of essential oil if you want it scented. The main reason I make my own is that I'm allergic or sensitive to scented products.

This leaves my clothes naturally clean-smelling and so soft that I don't need to add a softner. For those clothes that develop static cling in the dryer I was using a crumpled up ball of aluminum foil - it really works, but my daughter bought a couple of rubber dryer balls, you just leave them in the dryer and they shorten drying time as well as fluffing and softening the clothes.

Lesson over - back to the thread topic.

Mincan
04-01-08, 09:54 PM
I hate warmth

Say it isn't so?!

I love warmth... +20 celsius and I'm happy as a pig in **** for no apparent reason. I can just lay in the freakin sun all day....

MJwatson
04-01-08, 11:46 PM
- a class act -

you guys
(all of) you guys

('specially you amykins)

watch the mincan
and learn

(amykins - do you ever wash your gloves ?)
thought not

and

do people make sniffin' noises around you ?

eh? eh? ehhhh?

Pongykins

aha :-)
Mincan will prevail

(now where's our national anthem ???)

:-)

be upstanding

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nebe1zuEtbc&feature=related

and waggle (if you please)

->- the amykins 'longpong'song

LOL! For your information...I have several pairs of gloves AND just because I wore boxers doesn't mean I smell like a man! Truth be known I am a girlie girl and I happen to smell like jasmine/vanilla and cherry blossom. And I take a bath everyday even if I have to come in from playing outside :D

I've noticed you have this 'smells' thing..whats that about?

Mincan
04-02-08, 12:27 AM
I love the smells too! :D I'm a sniffer. I usually smell things before I put them in my mouth, etc. Ah jesus, Can't speak for SB but I assume he's a naturalist such as me.

MJwatson
04-02-08, 12:40 AM
I love the smells too! :D I'm a sniffer. I usually smell things before I put them in my mouth, etc. Ah jesus, Can't speak for SB but I assume he's a naturalist such as me.

Oh geeze! are you like that guy on "a fish called wanda" that sniffs the boot? LOL! So you actually enjoy the smell of the ....unbathed??? UG!

I like to smell like flowers.......mmmmmm.....prreeeetttyy... LOL!

Mary
04-02-08, 12:44 AM
LOL... now Amy... you know it's these things that make each of us unique..... if that is what they enjoy... it's a part of who they are and what makes them special in their own way. :)

It's no different than.... smelling flowers, or perfumes, or men's cologne......or the smell of different soaps in the soap aisle.... or splurging at Bath and Body works. ;)

Mincan
04-02-08, 12:49 AM
Hey I didn't say I like the smell of the unwashed... that's a whole other step above what I said... geez... I said I liked to smell my food for crying out loud!

In all seriousness though, I do prefer a natural [clean] smelling body. I hate colognes/ perfumes/ etc with a passion and do not use any, hell my hair cleaner doesn't even smell at all, it simply is a natural oil remover and natural soap. I'm allergic to the crap they make these days..

It's like smelling clean is good for everyone, but if you use perfume its like you are being very invasive on other people's rights.

Mary
04-02-08, 01:10 AM
It's like smelling clean is good for everyone, but if you use perfume its like you are being very invasive on other people's rights.

I meant no offense Mincan... and I wish other people understood the meaning of being invasive. I've almost ended up in hospital when someone has walked past me with too much perfume/cologne on.

SB_UK
04-02-08, 01:53 AM
quote=Mincan;570977
Hey I didn't say I like the smell of the unwashed...
makes me feel sick
that's a whole other step above what I said... geez... I said I liked to smell my food for crying out loud!
I'm a sniffer - sometimes I pretend to sniff my dog to make her feel self-conscious
In all seriousness though, I do prefer a natural [clean] smelling body.
female skin smells :-)
I hate colognes/ perfumes/ etc with a passion and do not use any,
me also
hell my hair cleaner doesn't even smell at all,
me also
it simply is a natural oil remover and natural soap.
mine's an aqueous cream with no scent and a pretty much just a cleaner - because
I'm allergic to the crap they make these days..
and am dehydrated by any soap to the point of extreme pain
with eczema resulting - (an allergy)
It's like smelling clean is good for everyone, but if you use perfume its like you are being very invasive on other people's rights.
women smell nice.

I like the faintest waft of perfume in the night air -
imagine though how sensitive our noses must be to pick up smells from hundreds of metres away - given bad wind.

ooops!
An explanation for my bad behaviour

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indole
Indole is solid at room temperature. It occurs naturally in human feces and has an intense fecal odor. At very low concentrations, however, it has a flowery smell, and is a constituent of many flower scents (such as orange blossoms) and perfumes. It also occurs in coal tar.


to smell like jasmine/vanilla and cherry blossom.:eek::eek::eek:

where

indole is

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Indole_chemical_structure.png/280px-Indole_chemical_structure.png

imidazole is

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Imidazole_chemical_structure.png/200px-Imidazole_chemical_structure.png

and here (from yesterday) on ADDF (http://www.addforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=570131&postcount=3)


women smell of poopy bottom
(it's official at last
- thanks to the Amykins Revelation)

SB_UK
04-02-08, 02:12 AM
ps

dirty1 hairy2 greasy3 neanderthals4 sniff5 butt6

1 - clean (the other dirty)
2 - apolgies to Mincan for comments on duct tape
3 - sebaceous secretion electrical insulators
4 - as per the Mincan thread
5 - the dog using his dog to sniff out reality (cats have better night vision)
6 - that's a doggy thing

dogs like smelling a cat's poopy bottom
(it's official at last
- thanks to the Amykins Revelation)
(some dirty dogs even have the occasional nibble)

:-)

smell
vision

night vision for night life
and
smell - the pheromone - attraction through the pH of one's apple blossom aroma

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone#Sex_pheromones

points in red

Another study demonstrated that the smell of androstadienone, a chemical component of male sweat, maintains higher levels of cortisol in females. The scientists suggest that the ability of this compound to influence the endocrine balance of the opposite sex makes it a human pheromonal chemosignal.In 2002 a study showed an unnamed synthetic chemical in women's perfume appeared to increase intimate contact with men. The authors hypothesize, but do not demonstrate, that the observed behavioural differences are olfactory mediated.
In 2006 it was shown that a second mouse receptor sub-class is found in the olfactory epithelium. Called the trace amine-associated receptors (TAAR), some are activated by volatile amines found in mouse urine, including one putative mouse pheromone. Orthologous receptors exist in humans providing, the authors propose, evidence for a mechanism of human pheromone detection.

SB_UK
04-02-08, 02:18 AM
I was educated at RADA (http://www.rada.org/) and cut my teeth on novel deliveries of Shakespeare's lesser known sonnets

(flicks forelock)

you know

(turns head and focussing upon some point in the mid-distance)

darling

(sighs !!!)

and now look at me

->-

handover to Ronald McDonald on set inside a giant beefburger pacman

'quality performance dude !'

SB_UK
04-02-08, 02:43 AM
dogs like smelling a cat's poopy bottom
(it's official at last
- thanks to the Amykins Revelation)

The smell -
attraction defined

ADDF::Stabile
'A man and a woman need believe that each is doing a little better than each deserves'
~paraphrase~

So
- a man chasing a slightly more acid smell - and a woman chasing a slightly more alkaline smell.
(maybe the other way around)

noting - reactivation of Candida (yeast infection) (endogenous) -
compare with herpes (endogenous virus)

links (in reactivation patterns)
pH, stress sensitivity
stress -> cortisol
cortisol -> steroid hormone


~s ource (http://vitaminlady.com/Articles/candida_albicans.asp)~

Sixth - balance acid/alkaline.
Interestingly, while many Candida sufferers have very acid pHs, some people suffering from recurrent Candida infections are found to have a highly alkaline body chemistry: this is usually in conjunction with a low metabolic rate, and can occur even if the diet is high in acid foods.


I'm thinking too little and there's no spark (discernible smell) -
- too much and the guy or girl is perceived to be overpowering
- a little too far along the

blossom ->- poop
quantitative 'love' spectrum of 'hey baby doll' alluring 'what sweet pea' aroma.

Too little smell - and no spark.
Too much smell and overcome by the heady aroma of poop.

reference:

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:0kiR7X2FhaW6hM:http://thedeadone.net/wp-content/uploads/poo_cover.JPG

(I am a very bad person)

This is the basis for dirty dogs and heads nuzzling female butts (works both way around) -
the reason for the round and around reciprocal butt chase

->-

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:MhSBbnvHK_ziQM:http://www.cybersalt.org/cl_images/1zzzzxa/dogs/dogcustomspuppies.jpg

'cheeky'

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:2zb_eUYw_sWduM:http://images.inmagine.com/168nwm/photoalto/paa029/paa029000064.jpg

'ooo
- that tickles'

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:whHi7lbOKaBekM:http://www.mousetrax.com/PetPics/Bark2006/DSCF3544.jpg

'reversing into oncomiing traffic can offend'

SB_UK
04-02-08, 03:08 AM
What does all of the above mean?

Evolution follows the process defined below

evolutionary event 1
->
physiological cranking through the novel evolutionary character conferred by evolutionary event 1
->
until we reach an end-point and evolutionary event 2 is mandated

The physiological cranking is explained as follows

Get male x female
growing together

Imagine

evolutionary event 1 -> evolutionary event 2
is a 10 rung ladder

ensure that man and woman on same level are attracted to one another so that there's a speedy tendency from rung 1 -> rung 10
and continued evolutionary ascent

so ... ... ...

rung 1 man + rung 1 woman -> higher (rung 2 or more) kid

rung 5 man + rung 5 woman -> higher (rung 5 or more) kid

rung 9 man + rung 9 woman -> higher (speciation event) kid


How does rung 5 man find rung 5 woman ?

(sufficient spark (smell) -
not too heady aroma)

father -> programs daughter with his scent as target
mother -> programs son with her scent as target

Pattern
ADDF::Stabile
The grandparent :: grandchild connection reflects the re-birth of the individual
(explanation of the tight connection between grandparent and grandchild)

~*~

mother -> programs son (becomes like father)
father

mother
father -> programs daughter (becomes like mother)

son
+ ------------------------>- daughter (== mother,father)
daughter


(this scheme isn't complete)
and the following idea need be incorporated

Inheritance
seen of the physical and mental sublayers

The physical sublayers - exploring internal and external reality
The mental sublayers - introverted extroverted

~*~

The basis of the modern mating strategy is having a right good sniff.

The basis of the primitive mating strategy (being phased out) is the automatic activation of woman by man - using activation of the process -
- of a component in male sweat leading to automatic trigger on female -

there's no discrimination in the primitive mating strategy
- it's an automatic reaction -
is unfair to woman
- is evolutionary legacy -

- and served only a purpose in our evoutionary past as animals -
because then -
- when we were physical layer organisms (without a mind)

- when we were solely about shaping ourselves to the external environment -
- all that mattered is that male and female DNA -
produced children -
- which survived on the basis of their strength of survival within context of ravages of external environment -

- capacity to survive 'naked' within the external environment.

We are not physical layer organisms -
we're the next stage on - mental layer organisms

So - why do we act like animals ?

inequality of wealth
inequality of power

abuse of man on man

animals - a species
legacy up for termination

recognition of problem
demands swift
aside
these issues
fit of uncontrolled shame.

SB_UK
04-02-08, 06:44 AM
Testable Hypothesis


Children become better with each generation.

As model of combination of parent -
we should find that parents find their baby's poo particularly stinky.

The experiment is trivial -
eliminating desensitization from the equation

Did you find the contents of your babies nappy (after moving off milk)
(i) appetising
(ii) pleasantly refreshing
(iii) not appetising
(iv) ewwwwww!!!

(iv) indicates a (relatively speaking)
smarter kid to parent ratio.

(a testable hypothesis -
part of ADDF's stated policy in encouraging

education for life

(and not just christmas)

:-)

Geeze #2 has just done a #2 and it smells real bad.

clever kid :-)


~*~

Re: do adhd people tend to not wear jeans or pants cause it feels weird

INCIDENTALLY - not off topic

jeans or pants (drawn without any evidence of tampering, word play or paraphrase - from the stated intent as succinctly defined in the title
- to this -
yet another expression of the profound wisdom which is tp be found within vice sage provost Marytza)

contain

butts

(I have photographic evidence)

MJwatson
04-02-08, 10:27 AM
LOL... now Amy... you know it's these things that make each of us unique..... if that is what they enjoy... it's a part of who they are and what makes them special in their own way. :)

It's no different than.... smelling flowers, or perfumes, or men's cologne......or the smell of different soaps in the soap aisle.... or splurging at Bath and Body works. ;)

LOL Mary!! I totally almost spit my Ginger Ale full onto the computer screen... I go CRAZY in Bath and Body!! (however did you know?) :)

Of course I have to buy the complete collection, shampoo, bubble bath, lotion and spray. I went in there recently and they had discontinued My 2 favorite lines!!!!!:eek: I almost had a panic attack! No Magnolia and no Jasmine/vanilla shampoo or body spray!! Would you believe I had to leave with a mismatched assortment!! Jasmine/vanilla lotion and bubbles and Cherry Blossom shampoo! the nerve! HOWEVER.....;) Since I know Mary is about to puke or pass out......

Herin lies the cardinal rule of wearing any scent......I was fortunate enough to have had my mother impress upon me, the most critical and timeless rules of being a Southern Lady. In this case..."bathe in water not perfume" and above all...If you can smell your own perfume...you have on too much...

But, Mary, to be fair to Mincan and SB and whomever has allergies...I will not bathe for 2 days! I am open minded and will check out the other point of view...

(Can I still wear my lip gloss? I love that stuff):)

Mary
04-02-08, 10:54 AM
LOL Mary!! I totally almost spit my Ginger Ale full onto the computer screen... I go CRAZY in Bath and Body!! (however did you know?) :)

Of course I have to buy the complete collection, shampoo, bubble bath, lotion and spray. I went in there recently and they had discontinued My 2 favorite lines!!!!!:eek: I almost had a panic attack! No Magnolia and no Jasmine/vanilla shampoo or body spray!! Would you believe I had to leave with a mismatched assortment!! Jasmine/vanilla lotion and bubbles and Cherry Blossom shampoo! the nerve! HOWEVER.....;) Since I know Mary is about to puke or pass out......

Herin lies the cardinal rule of wearing any scent......I was fortunate enough to have had my mother impress upon me, the most critical and timeless rules of being a Southern Lady. In this case..."bathe in water not perfume" and above all...If you can smell your own perfume...you have on too much...

But, Mary, to be fair to Mincan and SB and whomever has allergies...I will not bathe for 2 days! I am open minded and will check out the other point of view...

(Can I still wear my lip gloss? I love that stuff):)

LOL.. you may wear the lip gloss..... (laughing so hard.. I almost fell out of chair)

NonSequitur
04-02-08, 11:02 AM
Herin lies the cardinal rule of wearing any scent......I was fortunate enough to have had my mother impress upon me, the most critical and timeless rules of being a Southern Lady. In this case..."bathe in water not perfume" and above all...If you can smell your own perfume...you have on too much...


Also if you leave a puddle, you know you're wearing too much. :p

DeloresMelon
04-02-08, 03:10 PM
I wear a pair of jeans that are so worn I'm nearly exposing areas that weren't exposed when the jeans were originally purchased. In fact, I don't know that I wear anything but jeans nowadays.

I used to work for/with a woman that smoked and being that her olfactory senses were nearly extinct she would drench herself in the most offensive perfume. I'd have to suck menthol cough drops just to alleviate the assault on my own, perfectly operating senses. I daresay she was the reason for a large portion of my migraines in the time I worked there.

MJwatson
04-02-08, 03:19 PM
women smell of poopy bottom
(it's official at last
- thanks to the Amykins Revelation)


LOL! I can't win here! My one true girly indulgence is now likened to a poopy butt?

I also had no idea that wearing scented lotion was a violation of others basic rights....sorry..I was trying not to smell like a cat's butt!:p

I ask any of you...have you ever smelled the jasmine/vanilla lotion? No, not in the store or in the bottle, but directly on skin?? Be truthful now!! ;)

MJwatson
04-02-08, 03:22 PM
I wear a pair of jeans that are so worn I'm nearly exposing areas that weren't exposed when the jeans were originally purchased. In fact, I don't know that I wear anything but jeans nowadays.

I used to work for/with a woman that smoked and being that her olfactory senses were nearly extinct she would drench herself in the most offensive perfume. I'd have to suck menthol cough drops just to alleviate the assault on my own, perfectly operating senses. I daresay she was the reason for a large portion of my migraines in the time I worked there.

Hilarious!!! menthol cough drops!!:) Good Point Delores. I can honestly say I don't do that.

Why is it assumed that I lather myself up in the stuff? It's just body lotion..it makes me smooth!!!! :D

DeloresMelon
04-02-08, 03:58 PM
Thankfully I've only had the misfortune to be in the company of a few foul smelling women that had bathed in their horrid perfume. What perplexes me is what the hell is wrong with their noses that they can't smell that? And, why doesn't someone SAY something.

I mean there's huge difference between 'wearing a tad too much perfume' and 'OMG did you die last week and try to mask the odor????'

Hall's cough drops were my saving grace for two very long and smelly years.

MJwatson
04-02-08, 04:03 PM
LOL.. you may wear the lip gloss..... (laughing so hard.. I almost fell out of chair)

Thankfully I've only had the misfortune to be in the company of a few foul smelling women that had bathed in their horrid perfume. What perplexes me is what the hell is wrong with their noses that they can't smell that? And, why doesn't someone SAY something.

I mean there's huge difference between 'wearing a tad too much perfume' and 'OMG did you die last week and try to mask the odor????'

Hall's cough drops were my saving grace for two very long and smelly years.

LOL! I know, right? Geeze! I have smelled tose women too..that is why I stick by my rule...If you can smell yourself..Its toooo much! same with stink! :D

Lunacie
04-02-08, 04:04 PM
LOL! I can't win here! My one true girly indulgence is now likened to a poopy butt?

I also had no idea that wearing scented lotion was a violation of others basic rights....sorry..I was trying not to smell like a cat's butt!:p

I ask any of you...have you ever smelled the jasmine/vanilla lotion? No, not in the store or in the bottle, but directly on skin?? Be truthful now!! ;)

ARRGGGHHHHH! I hate it when someone shoves something under my nose and says, "Here smell this, isn't it great?"

For you, I'm sure it's great, but for me, not so great. These perfumes and scented candles and other smelly stuff really does make some of us sick. As someone mentioned, it can give it migraine headaches. It can make us feel nauseous, or weepy, or sneezy, or stuffy. And one time when my daughter left a scented candle burning I had an anaphylactic reaction, felt my breathing passages swelling shut - that was scary because I was home alone with my 3 year old granddaughter.

Of course we aren't saying that everyone else should stop wearing stinky stuff, but after you've worn the same scent for several months or years, you become so used to the smell that you use more of it in order to even notice it yourself - and that can be very overpowering for those of us who are senstiive or allergic.

I do keep a small cloth mask in my jeans pocket at all times. I got gassed in the library one day by a woman who was drenched in perfume - she was standing at the desk between me and the doorway - I had to hold a tissue over my face in order to leave and could not take the time to check out any books because a tissue doesn't really stop the fumes. So now I keep the mask with me at all times just in case.

MJwatson
04-02-08, 04:10 PM
ARRGGGHHHHH! I hate it when someone shoves something under my nose and says, "Here smell this, isn't it great?"

For you, I'm sure it's great, but for me, not so great. These perfumes and scented candles and other smelly stuff really does make some of us sick. As someone mentioned, it can give it migraine headaches. It can make us feel nauseous, or weepy, or sneezy, or stuffy. And one time when my daughter left a scented candle burning I had an anaphylactic reaction, felt my breathing passages swelling shut - that was scary because I was home alone with my 3 year old granddaughter.

Of course we aren't saying that everyone else should stop wearing stinky stuff, but after you've worn the same scent for several months or years, you become so used to the smell that you use more of it in order to even notice it yourself - and that can be very overpowering for those of us who are senstiive or allergic.

I do keep a small cloth mask in my jeans pocket at all times. I got gassed in the library one day by a woman who was drenched in perfume - she was standing at the desk between me and the doorway - I had to hold a tissue over my face in order to leave and could not take the time to check out any books because a tissue doesn't really stop the fumes. So now I keep the mask with me at all times just in case.

Oh, Man! My bad.....I thought we were all just having fun at my expense. :eek:

DeloresMelon
04-02-08, 04:14 PM
Oh, Man! My bad.....I thought we were all just having fun at my expense. :eek:

that's the best fun to have.... :p

I admit I'm rude. IN public (and this mainly applies to smelly smokers), I am so overly obvious in my attempts to shield my face with clothing to let them know their stink is offending me, sometimes I border on psychotic. lol

In conclusion, I wear jeans. :p

MJwatson
04-02-08, 04:23 PM
that's the best fun to have.... :p

I admit I'm rude. IN public (and this mainly applies to smelly smokers), I am so overly obvious in my attempts to shield my face with clothing to let them know their stink is offending me, sometimes I border on psychotic. lol

In conclusion, I wear jeans. :p

LMAO!! I am like that with smokers too! (you are NOT rude) :)

In conclusion...I don't even wear perfume. Just lotion after a bath! And I am not really 'jeans' more like track pants and capris!

:D

DeloresMelon
04-02-08, 04:39 PM
LMAO!! I am like that with smokers too! (you are NOT rude) :)

In conclusion...I don't even wear perfume. Just lotion after a bath! And I am not really 'jeans' more like track pants and capris!

:D



oooooh capris. I have two pair of khaki capris that are my (house)work pants. They've got paint and mud stains but i love them. Soooo comfy. I wear them in summer since I'm not crazy about shorts.

selby
04-02-08, 04:46 PM
Bath and Body Works is a curse. Some scents smell great and the store is cheap, but they really dry out your skin over the long term. :(

MJwatson
04-02-08, 05:04 PM
Bath and Body Works is a curse. Some scents smell great and the store is cheap, but they really dry out your skin over the long term. :(

NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooo:eek:



:p

Mary
04-02-08, 05:16 PM
Bath and Body Works is a curse. Some scents smell great and the store is cheap, but they really dry out your skin over the long term. :(

Yes... to those with extreme allergies, it is. I can only use certain kinds of soap... or I break out. I can't use DOVE... because it dries my skin so badly it cracks.

I can't use zest...because it also makes me dry out and itch. Some hand sanitizers also make my hands so dry they crack.

For those don't have the allergies... you're very fortunate.

Luthien
04-02-08, 06:21 PM
I admit I'm rude. IN public (and this mainly applies to smelly smokers), I am so overly obvious in my attempts to shield my face with clothing to let them know their stink is offending me, sometimes I border on psychotic. lol

When I still smoked it really used to upset me if people acted like that .. although I understood very well that smoke can bother others.

I've always hated those heavy perfumes. In the Netherlands at least they made you go past the perfume department first when you entered department stores .. it was like choking :(

And then there's those men that wash themselves in aftershave :rolleyes:

but I *do* like the very slight, light smells of some perfumes .. as long as it's *really* light and non-obtrusive.


But on the other hand .. I sometimes get the idea that people are getting more and more sensitive to almost *anything* .. a bit parallel to being politically correct. My ex gf worked with people who in the Netherlands are referred to as 'mentally handicapped' or 'disabled' (like severely low level Down syndrome or Autism .. like mentally 1 yr old) .. an expression that is 'not done' here in North America. It's something with 'challenged' here .. or maybe that has become to0 rude as well? In a personnel magazine from her employer a columnist wrote that in the not too distant future, the term 'people with possibilities' would become the correct term.

Ehh?

People with possibilities.
My goodness.
That holds the record for 'speaking, but not saying anything'.

"You're not allowed to call them dinosaurs anymore." said Yo-less.
"It's speciesist. You have to call them pre-petroleum persons."

"You're not allowed to say Stupid anymore. That's rude.
"The correct term is now Those who labour under the challenge of alternative forms of synapse arrangement."

it is as if there is a movement .. not only away from words that are perceived as belittling, but also from naming things like what they are, towards what we want them to be. I have the impression that that is not always completely in sync with reality or logic.

In a similar way .. we seem to be getting more and more sensitive to smells as well. Last year in Vancouver was the first time ever that I saw a sign in a bus that sort of intended to shame you if you happened to be one of those perfume bombs :D

I'm a bit ambivalent about it. I mean, those typical ladies who smell an hour in the wind .. cigar smokers ... right, it's god awful, but somehow .. I don't know. I can't keep myself from thinking .. ok .. so what?

I suppose the next issue is going to be joggers .. when they pass me they smell like sweat :eek::( !

!!!!!!!
With all due respect of course to the ones that have allergies etc ..
that's not what I am talking about.

Lunacie
04-02-08, 06:24 PM
Oh, Man! My bad.....I thought we were all just having fun at my expense. :eek:

I thought you were making fun of those of us with serious allergies to scented products when you said you didn't realize you were "... violating others basic rights...". I do consider it a basic right to be able to breath without being made sick or having an anaphylactic, and possibly life threatening, reaction from simply breathing.

Guess we misunderstood each other.

MJwatson
04-02-08, 09:11 PM
I thought you were making fun of those of us with serious allergies to scented products when you said you didn't realize you were "... violating others basic rights...". I do consider it a basic right to be able to breath without being made sick or having an anaphylactic, and possibly life threatening, reaction from simply breathing.

Guess we misunderstood each other.

oh no, no,no,..I would never make fun of a serious condition! I just thought Min and SB were making fun of me...mintalking about not bathing..sb muttering something about me and a pungy cat butt..so I said that back. just in fun, not to offend....just a counter-attack!! ;)

total misunderstanding! Sorries!

ADHDbutTrying
04-02-08, 10:25 PM
I like jeans, but the only pair of underwear I can tolerate are the stretchy material, sport style ones (like under armour) and I was so frustrated the other day my favourite and most comfortable pair were sitting in the bottom of my pile of clean clothes for a week or so (I keep everything except dress clothes in a pile - too lazy to hang/fold and put things in drawers) and the tag in the back got folded and was creased across the middle of it and caused it to stick up into my skin so annoyingly that I couldn't do my work so I went to the washroom with scissors and was trying to cut it in front of the mirror looking over my shoulder at my back waist but was hard since moving the blades was reversed (mirror) and I ended up cutting a whole in the damn shorts, my favourite pair that cost $35 damn dollars!!!! :x

Scattered
04-02-08, 11:26 PM
Don't really like jeans too, unless they're comfy.
And I recognise the not wanting to wear tight things, or synthetic fibers (freak me out), or necks or cuffs that are tight .. or any jewelry .. don't even wear a watch.
Oh, and bra's that look like they are designed by a civil engineer (adds up to 90% of them). And underwear with these sharp thin elastic rims *ouch* and the worst of all, that insane underwear that seems to be made out of shoe strings .. I cannot imagine that someone would wear that except at gun point.

I do like loose fitting cotton shirts, skirts .. oh wait - exception to the "not tight" rule .. I do like tights (under a skirt) and also mountain boots, bc they give some sense of physical stability (my equilibrium is not that good)
You mean clothes or the weather in Canada?
You're preferences are a lot like mine. As far as the jean question goes -- I love jeans -- I live in them. I like all natural fiber clothes. The only exception to that is polar fleec material which is great for jackets and such. I can't stand most man made materials and 100% wool tends to make me really itchy to the point of distraction.

Favorite outfit is jeans, sneakers, and sweatshirt. I do love cotton!

DeloresMelon
04-03-08, 06:55 AM
sb muttering something about me and a pungy cat butt..!

man, my cat has a REALLY PUNGY cat butt..... I don't think I want to meet you, like, ever, amykins if you are harboring a quality that is like my cat's pungy butt.... :p

Ian W
04-03-08, 07:38 AM
luthien, & imnapl, I miss living in Vancouver...ahh, the rain the sun, and rain again...*smiles*

As for the senseory question, i have Adhd, and i have always loved wearing jeans, just cus there comfortable...i can understand, wher if your sensory projection is hightened, and ther are only certin cloths you can wear..I could NEVER, and still to this day..I can't wear corderory...Laughs*

NonSequitur
04-03-08, 11:16 AM
ARRGGGHHHHH! I hate it when someone shoves something under my nose and says, "Here smell this, isn't it great?"


I had someone follow me around a drugstore trying to give me a perfume sample once. Apparently "no thank you" wasn't part of her vocabulary. :rolleyes:

NonSequitur
04-03-08, 11:18 AM
I mean there's huge difference between 'wearing a tad too much perfume' and 'OMG did you die last week and try to mask the odor????'

*LOL*

Exactly!

SB_UK
04-03-08, 12:17 PM
amykins if you are harboring a quality that is like my cat's pungy butt....
... then have you ever thought about masking it with a deeply intoxicating asphyxiatingly toxic and anaphylaxis-inducing perfume ?

- just remember (soapbox moment) to hand out prophylactics:p to all heavy breathing males swoonin'in your wake.

plastic bags - not good
(incidentally)

prison - lots of life sentences
lots and lots
for felling males and then putting plastic bags on their heads -

not good -

:-)

not good at all.

Maybe flaunt your pungy butt ?

Maybe run a poll on ADDF -
multiple options

pungy butts do not have clearly prescribed lines of attack tattoo'd over their coy pudgy exterior.

Incidentally - logic

'pungy' -> 'pudgy'

(a word thing
- not a % fat monitor)

so no peeking.

Mincan
04-03-08, 02:13 PM
Apparently I was told if you ask a female to sniff your finger after it's had access to your nether regions that this will make the female your slave because they like our pheramones...

SB_UK
04-03-08, 02:40 PM
nether regions

I know what I'm doing
- trust me man -
- I'm going in.

-*-

would scratch and inflict nostril lunges work here ?

*danger (http://geography.about.com/od/specificplacesofinterest/a/dykes.htm)*

and wtf !

bad man alert (http://www.lowcarbontravel.com/2007/03/fingers-in-dykesgoing-dutch_2565.html)

SB_UK
04-03-08, 02:41 PM
by the way -
do you moisturise ?

SB_UK
04-03-08, 02:50 PM
no - I don't know where ?
nor what
nor how

neither when

not now
not never

no! no! no!


just that the one that looks like a swanky gopher off 'Friends' keeps asking me ?

and she don't do questions

wait a minute



I think it's an advert.:o

MJwatson
04-03-08, 03:03 PM
... then have you ever thought about masking it with a deeply intoxicating asphyxiatingly toxic and anaphylaxis-inducing perfume ?

- just remember (soapbox moment) to hand out prophylactics:p to all heavy breathing males swoonin'in your wake.

plastic bags - not good
(incidentally)

prison - lots of life sentences
lots and lots
for felling males and then putting plastic bags on their heads -

not good -

:-)

not good at all.

Maybe flaunt your pungy butt ?

Maybe run a poll on ADDF -
multiple options

pungy butts do not have clearly prescribed lines of attack tattoo'd over their coy pudgy exterior.

Incidentally - logic

'pungy' -> 'pudgy'

(a word thing
- not a % fat monitor)

so no peeking.


LOL!!! do you see what you have done to me!

Now the whole forums thinks I drown myself in perfume do overshadow my pungy now turned pudgy butt....which, you might as well know...IS tatooed!
SO HAHAHAHAHA! to you!!!!
(AIGF) :p

SB_UK
04-03-08, 03:04 PM
Apparently I was told if you ask a female to sniff your finger after it's had access to your nether regions that this will make the female your slave because they like our pheramones...

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NOT OFF TOPIC.

Imagine how much easier it is to reload one's fingers without

yeah!

JEANS

or

PANTS

(though the increased aeration may prove problematic for essential anaerobic fermentation reactions)

MJwatson
04-03-08, 03:07 PM
I had someone follow me around a drugstore trying to give me a perfume sample once. Apparently "no thank you" wasn't part of her vocabulary. :rolleyes:

delores and lunacie and sequitor.......did you see that movie where the woman too a job a perfume girl and sprayed it in some womans mouth and some dude's eye? I think you would find that clip funny......hopefully....just trying to make you laugh......:o ha....ha?

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yeah!

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or

PANTS

(though the increased aeration may prove problematic for essential anaerobic fermentation reactions)


Especially if you are know for not wearing underwear....HAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA:p

SB_UK
04-03-08, 03:08 PM
...IS tatooed!:p

depunge-in' instructions ?


how very modern :-)

Vhan
04-03-08, 04:46 PM
I <3 tripp jeans, (the really baggy ones at hot topic)

you won't EVER catch me in a pair of blue jeans....ever!

MJwatson
04-03-08, 05:54 PM
depunge-in' instructions ?


how very modern :-)


LMAO!!! not instructions...a magnolia...please save yourself the flower--cat butt--pungy--pudgy--perfume scenario!! LOL..I have to stop giving you ammo! :)

SB_UK
04-03-08, 06:57 PM
it is a sweet, pungent, spicy scent

ho lordy!

"Magnolia Grandiflora"

~s ource (http://home.att.net/%7ESpanishMoss/fragrance.html)~

ho lordy lordy

ho.

SB_UK
04-03-08, 06:59 PM
you are butt but none
... but?

~aka~

butty butt butt (to your friends)

:-)

DeloresMelon
04-03-08, 07:06 PM
Apparently I was told if you ask a female to sniff your finger after it's had access to your nether regions that this will make the female your slave because they like our pheramones...

it's true. Do it.

Imnapl
04-03-08, 07:19 PM
LOL! Deloresmelon, help, I'm choking after reading your post!

Mincan
04-03-08, 07:21 PM
:mad: .....wait.... "smell my finger?"

~boots~
04-03-08, 09:43 PM
Apparently I was told if you ask a female to sniff your finger after it's had access to your nether regions that this will make the female your slave because they like our pheramones...
LOL..oh yeah..that'll work for sure M :eek:
nothing like the smell of ....oh never mind Tracy :p

Luthien
04-03-08, 10:19 PM
Apparently I was told if you ask a female to sniff your finger after it's had access to your nether regions that this will make the female your slave because they like our pheramones...

This may probably rank among or between the possibly fourteen-something oddest things .. or maybe not really things, but at least, well, you know - or not, of course, who can tell? anyway: that I have apparently heard or that have gotten astray into my long term memory in one way, or route, or another. Maybe. Sort of. And then again - it may not.

Mincan
04-04-08, 12:04 AM
Can't control your thoughts? Are you being controlled by some... primitive drive... that you can't quite comprehend.... :p

MJwatson
04-04-08, 12:30 AM
Can't control your thoughts? Are you being controlled by some... primitive drive... that you can't quite comprehend.... :p

Dude, how come you can do whatever it is you do with your finger sniffing, yet I keep getting called a Pungy Cat butt? :p

SB_UK
04-04-08, 01:53 AM
Dude, how come you can do whatever it is you do with your finger sniffing, yet I keep getting called a Pungy Cat butt? :p

have you thought of neuterralizing by rubbing yourself up and down on the dribbly rear end of a jobbing stray canine ?
think the butt-to-butt equivalent of 'Lady and the Tramps' electrifying (http://www.aolcdn.com/red_galleries/lady-and-the-tramp-400ds062.jpg) first kiss -

awwwww! :p;)

- intestinal worms make it happen.

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:02 AM
Can't control your thoughts? Are you being controlled by some... primitive drive... that you can't quite comprehend.... :p

ADDaway will get you for that; I think he has Luthien under aroma control.

You watch out

ADDaway demonstrates marked perkiness under pants.

MJwatson
04-04-08, 02:23 AM
have you thought of neuterralizing by rubbing yourself up and down on the dribbly rear end of a jobbing stray canine ?
think the butt-to-butt equivalent of 'Lady and the Tramps' electrifying (http://www.aolcdn.com/red_galleries/lady-and-the-tramp-400ds062.jpg) first kiss -

awwwww! :p;)

- intestinal worms make it happen.

LOL!! that is one awesome kiss!

So, to sum up...I have to find a dog..to rub my fat stinkey tatooed cat but against???? LOL! Then I'll be neuterralized. That seems a tad unjust...why am I pungy and Mincan isn't? It's 'cause he's a guy isn't it???!!!!:rolleyes:

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:31 AM
who can tell?

The demure teller.

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:39 AM
So, to sum up...I have to find a dog..to rub my fat stinkey tatooed cat but against

nice idea.

original.very original.


how'd you come up with it?

MJwatson
04-04-08, 02:45 AM
nice idea.

original.very original.


how'd you come up with it?


LOL! Should I just surrender? Is that what you want?:p

SB_UK
04-04-08, 03:05 AM
primitive mating strategy

flowers
> > > buzzy buzz buzzes > > > -> -> -> attracted by ) ) ) pungy butt flowers ) ) )

modern mating strategy

reciprocal butt sniffing
where match defined by equivalent strength of odour (in opposite directions)
only balanced opposite butt smells attract
fair -> much fairer than the non-specificity of its primitive precursor

---the non-specificity of its primitive precursor--- ---the non-specificity of its primitive precursor--- ---the non-specificity of its primitive precursor---
- particularly so to the female adder -
where automatic mating behaviour results in

falling for the wrong guy

guys not getting past themselves (and NOT moving towards complete control over all aspects of their own behaviour)
- instinctive uncontrolled subconscious mating behaviour which has been moved past need be moved past
when dual hurts dual in the only real duality through eyes of mind

---the non-specificity of its primitive precursor--- ---the non-specificity of its primitive precursor--- ---the non-specificity of its primitive precursor---

man+woman

proper education -> honest intelligence -> happy morality
for
man+woman
arises

as the primitive strategy is veiled inaccessible
and so


proper education -> honest intelligence -> happy morality
is mandated
as the only platform of any worth

do the world a favour and run up behind any politician with desire to take power -
and kick him soundly by the seat of his bloated bermuda pants

whilst claiming your interest in
seasonally adjusted figures.

:-)

It's impossible to lead without one's house (mind) in order (arrayed in efficient logical hierarchy);
akin to unwinding wires -
without the entire wire in vision throughout -
likelihood is that one will end up worsening the tangle.

SB_UK
04-04-08, 03:19 AM
it's important to have some idea about something if steering people (the guys who call themselves leaders) is your wont
world leaders ?
political leaders ?
business leaders ?

so many leaders evading leadership -
- big fake grins, private jets, fast cars, country houses, model girl friends, rock star parties and academic titles

- so many leaders defining their leadership title by their capacity to evade leadership -
- the better at evasion -
the better the leader

--- not good ---

it's important to have some idea about something ... ...- otherwise you're just a hulkin' bully with desire to enforce your policies without logicality of conviction

without logical foundation -
- and objectivity -

proper leadership need come from analysing a problem
- awareness of all sides
not by the a priori statement that because I am X - so can I never consider Y

Question
Why are the left and right wing parties of the countries of the developed world converging on the centre ?

Answer
not by the a priori statement that because I am X - so can I never consider Y
right wing, left wing, laissez-faire liberal
- there's no difference between any developed country's ???deeply??? competing political parties.

ADD
A disorder of big picture thinkers in the narrow parochial context of an environment applauding only selfish ideals.

There is no self -
there is species (defined by communication) -

one species
one world

one world government is the only solution
one world currency

and not the ridiculous proliferation in

nation-specific economic systems
nation-specific legal systems
nation-specific political systems

nowhere to hide -
- can't play the legal loophole

no to child labour on a world-basis
no foreign exchange market

no wars

world government which cannot be ignored by the powerful

all interests catered for

....*** sense ***

artists
good scientists
musicianshttp://www.addforums.com/forums/clear.gif
-> supply so much for so many

politicians
bankers
lawyers
-> just take for themselves -

they're the problem

the measure
- how much would you miss your music collection?

and your pointlessly overcomplicated legal system?

what even is it?
some way to ensure that corporations maintain their power and competition is squeezed out - by erecting a 'bully boy' culture of money

stupid pointless immoral crud dumb a55 rubbish greedy defiling money

I hate the stuff

SB_UK
04-04-08, 04:08 AM
.....:-)

... ... ... so...-

...-...there's ..a ..trait

clinging to the physical world .-

our evolution is shaped by the physical

world.-.reactively defining an internal train of

electrical impulse - within our body - our peripheral

and central nervous system - and the evolution of a du/al

to .this .internal reactivity .to .the. external world .- .marks out the

original 'character' -.. which gave rise to 'modern man'. The duality of

these two dua/ls - of internal and external world impulses bo/th (importantly)

internally though ..-.. gives rise to an end to the construction process to

the two dua/ls - since the only purpose of du/al-is to form duality

thereafter - we move on - and where - the tw/o .environmental

factors - which we can now see an end to - will be shown

to be .-. money and all deliveries of unfair inequality

in the physical world (this is du/al 1 of duality)

and secondly ...-...ved anta (the end of

knowledge) - bo/th in good ways

though .- .meaning .-. .fair

apportion of .enough

to .all .- we have

moved on

:-)

~boots~
04-04-08, 04:33 AM
Cool :)
very cool :)
very very cool :)
I love it when you do that
:D
.....:-)

... ... ... so...-

...-...there's ..a ..trait

clinging to the physical world .-

our evolution is shaped by the physical

world.-.reactively defining an internal train of

electrical impulse - within our body - our peripheral

and central nervous system - and the evolution of a du/al

to .this .internal reactivity .to .the. external world .- .marks out the

original 'character' -.. which gave rise to 'modern man'. The duality of

these two dua/ls - of internal and external world impulses bo/th (importantly)

internally though ..-.. gives rise to an end to the construction process to

the two dua/ls - since the only purpose of du/al-is to form duality

thereafter - we move on - and where - the tw/o .environmental

factors - which we can now see an end to - will be shown

to be .-. money and all deliveries of unfair inequality

in the physical world (this is du/al 1 of duality)

and secondly ...-...ved anta (the end of

knowledge) - bo/th in good ways

though .- .meaning .-. .fair

apportion of .enough

to .all .- we have

moved on

:-)

Av8rjoker
04-04-08, 04:37 AM
Is this serious or are you just being facetious?

I'm just guessing that you just don't like wearing long pants. I know tons of people who are like that, and I'm from Wisconsin. The day it hits 45 degrees, they are in shorts for the rest of the year. I actually don't like shorts at all. I wear jeans all year round regardless of how warm it is. I don't think it has anything to do with ADD, it's just my preference.

SB_UK
04-04-08, 04:48 AM
we have
->-->-->-->-->-->-->-moved->-->-->-->-on


I - physical (dopamine level I) motion (see Parkinson's disease)

+

II - mental (dopamine level II) mind (see effects of our meds on our mind)

->-

III - 'all you need is love'

- an oft-vaunted notion
... ... ... gaining credibility under the simple idea of resonance


............................o-|< -<--<--<- human

o
.I -<--<--<- planet
---
^
...................() -<--<--<- planet


resonance between

human ->-->-->- planet -<--<--<- human

love between man and fellow

- at 8 Hz
- between the oscillation frequency of our central central dopaminergic circuit
- the pathway to creativity (sleep/wake transition) (alpha/theta)
- path into the global mindscape through 'doors of perception'

and where (also) - 8 Hz
- the principal mode of our planet's intrinsic (Schumann) resonance -
- based around the cavity between electron flows within planet and around the planet (the magnetosphere)

(---(---(planet)---air space (cavity)---)---magnetosphere---)


(---(---(planet)---air space (cavity)---)---magnetosphere---)

4gotAgain
04-04-08, 07:11 AM
yuss colour!!

~boots~
04-04-08, 07:26 AM
Is this serious or are you just being facetious?

I'm just guessing that you just don't like wearing long pants. I know tons of people who are like that, and I'm from Wisconsin. The day it hits 45 degrees, they are in shorts for the rest of the year. I actually don't like shorts at all. I wear jeans all year round regardless of how warm it is. I don't think it has anything to do with ADD, it's just my preference.

we are serious:D

SB_UK
04-04-08, 07:31 AM
- in the modern mating strategy -


http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7Si4I3lEv0mSBM:http://www.clipartguide.com/_small/0512-0710-2915-2551.jpg


dog gets to chase cat
cat gets to be chased by dog

afterwards though
- collapse in an exhausted pile on the floor

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:I3k-zHW1Sf8g_M:http://z.about.com/d/dogs/1/0/h/o/2/shebaralphie_gsd_sugar.jpg
~s (http://z.about.com/d/dogs/1/0/h/o/2/shebaralphie_gsd_sugar.jpg) ource~

furry butts #A through #B
(order left -> right)
inclusive

where #1@5yrs wants a #B (fluffy and white) to go with #A

the point

http://re3.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/25/m2/2323930266

the rolling equality gives both motivation to 'improve' -
speciation

- getting 'better' (using definition :: physics)

necessary dual/ities

and
- truly -
... ... through the eyes of human -
- madly -
... explaining away
- deeply -

'all there really is - is the two of us '

where the duals of a duality explains

Noah's ark
'and the animals went in two by two'

sheepish goats
alley crocs
beestly wasps
catty dogs

think creatures of the day,night
and concave meets convex -
- live happily never after

(who wants to be a Nobel gas?)

this is the one rule of physics (evolution)
- translated into the language of its sub-compartment of
biology (life)

'and the animals went in two by two'
- within (the sub-compartment) - we'll :-) find the vrtual enclave of ADDF

throbbin' 'in the envelope
pushing us 'boldly ' out
blurring confines of inner bound of container class
- through nature of eversion -

~ whereby ~

(theoretically)

so is it possible to fit the entire Universe
(and beyond)
into a single head

(albeit large)

:-)

like this Cambridge boffybot

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:CG2A30Ckdti_zM:http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/035/sirclve.jpg

through these eyes

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7yGHxQwj2w2-yM:http://www.cullomeyecenter.com/images/content/cullomeyelasercenters/Astigmatism.jpg

~ s (http://www.cullomeyecenter.com/index.cfm/conditions/astigmatism) astigmatism~

Science of Cambridge was renamed to "Sinclair Computers Ltd".
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/ZXSpectrum48k.jpg/220px-ZXSpectrum48k.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/A-bike_stand_alone.jpg/200px-A-bike_stand_alone.jpg

(just guessin' 'ere)

:-)

~boots~
04-04-08, 07:32 AM
- in the modern mating strategy -


http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7Si4I3lEv0mSBM:http://www.clipartguide.com/_small/0512-0710-2915-2551.jpg


dog gets to chase cat
cat gets to be chased by dog

afterwards though
- collapse in an exhausted pile on the floor

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:I3k-zHW1Sf8g_M:http://z.about.com/d/dogs/1/0/h/o/2/shebaralphie_gsd_sugar.jpg
~s (http://z.about.com/d/dogs/1/0/h/o/2/shebaralphie_gsd_sugar.jpg) ource~

furry butts #A through #B
(order left -> right)
inclusive

where #1@5yrs wants a #B (fluffy and white) to go with #A

the point

http://re3.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/25/m2/2323930266

the rolling equality gives both motivation to 'improve' -
speciation

- getting 'better' (using definition :: physics)

necessary dual/ities

and
- truly -
... ... through the eyes of human -
- madly -
... explaining away
- deeply -

'all there really is - is the two of us '

where the duals of a duality explains

Noah's ark
'and the animals went in two by two'


this is the one rule of physics (evolution)
- translated into the language of its sub-compartment of
biology (life)


- within which we'll find the vrtual enclave of ADDF

within the envelope
pushing out
blurring confines of the inner bound of container class - through nature of eversion -

~ whereby ~

(theoretically) so is it possible to fit the entire Universe (and beyond) into a single head

(albeit large)

:-)

like this Cambridge boffybot

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:CG2A30Ckdti_zM:http://www.sincuser.f9.co.uk/035/sirclve.jpg

through these eyes

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:7yGHxQwj2w2-yM:http://www.cullomeyecenter.com/images/content/cullomeyelasercenters/Astigmatism.jpg

~ s (http://www.cullomeyecenter.com/index.cfm/conditions/astigmatism) astigmatism~


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/33/ZXSpectrum48k.jpg/220px-ZXSpectrum48k.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d1/A-bike_stand_alone.jpg/200px-A-bike_stand_alone.jpg

'guess
LOL...what can I say?

4gotAgain
04-04-08, 07:35 AM
i like the cambridge boffybot ;)

~boots~
04-04-08, 07:40 AM
i like the cambridge boffybot ;)I lived in Cambridgeshire when I was a wee tot:D

4gotAgain
04-04-08, 07:41 AM
did you ever meet the boffybot?
total hotty!!

SB_UK
04-04-08, 07:58 AM
did you ever meet the boffybot?
total hotty!!

amykins ?

(ps
- if you don't know her -
I think you'll enjoy her presence)

aromatic, sweet and pungent -
imagine Rocky Balboa landing a 'cat litter' punge -

doink !!!

4gotAgain
04-04-08, 08:03 AM
haha pungent? totally my type ;)

i think ive met amykins..
my short term memorys never been great
wot makes u say that??

~boots~
04-04-08, 08:05 AM
haha pungent? totally my type ;)

i think ive met amykins..
my short term memorys never been great
wot makes u say that??

she's super nice, and very sensitive :D:D aren't you AK:p

4gotAgain
04-04-08, 08:15 AM
oooh
will have to meet her..
possibly for the 2nd or 3rd time ;)

~boots~
04-04-08, 08:43 AM
Did Marytza come back and see if we wear pants or did she forget?

4gotAgain
04-04-08, 08:45 AM
HAHAHA
I hope we all do...
otherwise ADHDers would get a rather bad reputation..

DeloresMelon
04-04-08, 10:35 AM
Did Marytza come back and see if we wear pants or did she forget?


*pees a bit whilst laughing

~boots~
04-04-08, 10:40 AM
*pees a bit whilst laughingshe'll be back :)

with another cool question...
she has some friends that need help too, I hope she can help them get over their dislike of clothing and working:(

arkyle
04-04-08, 10:56 AM
I prefer jeans and cargo type pants. I like them because I go to colege about 6:30 - 7:00 am, so it's from chilly to freezing, and then it's likely for the weather to warm up. So that way I stay fresh and don't freeze my legs during the first hours in the morning. However I do like wearing shorts when at home or during summer.

SB_UK
04-04-08, 11:10 AM
< < < deleted > > >

managed to squeeze this post into my next post.

:-)

~boots~
04-04-08, 11:11 AM
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.................................................. .we have ->-->-->-->-->-->-->-moved->-->-->-->-on

.................................................. ..................III - 'all you need is love'

...............love between man and fellow


where no man is an island -
because of communication as bond between all members of our species

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:Qi5fW9f3stIJ:www.ccjo.org/images/side/paper-men.jpg

where - the link is real - and not just some metaphor

(Thanks to ADDF:crazy~feet)

http://www.filmposters.it/imgposter/grandi/ring2.jpg

however - with everybody else missing
(a kinda' glaring omission)

duh!

However - where - the line through the X shapes below

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:jDJkzJVgIJRcCM:http://www.cancerquest.org/Images/metaphaseai.gif

- is a ring - with X shapes upon - kinda' like this

|-X--X--X--X-.|
.\-X--X--X--X-/
.\-X--X--X--X/

where

.\-X--X--X--X/

are everting shapes

-v__v---> 2 cones --- stage 1

-v__v---> 2 cones --- stage 2

-v__v---> 2 cones --- stage 3
-^__^--

whereby speed through stage 3 - and we'll see that the shape which we'll see'll resemble
oh I know...

SB_UK
04-04-08, 11:11 AM
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i like to dribble

.................................................. .we have ->-->-->-->-->-->-->-moved->-->-->-->-on

.................................................. ..................III - 'all you need is love'

...............love between man and fellow


where no man is an island -
because of communication as bond between all members of our species

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:Qi5fW9f3stIJ:www.ccjo.org/images/side/paper-men.jpg

where - the link is real - and not just some metaphor

(Thanks to ADDF:crazy~feet)

http://www.filmposters.it/imgposter/grandi/ring2.jpg

however - with everybody else missing
(a kinda' glaring omission)
duh!

- there should at least be 3 or 4 people hangin' offa' the ring

hanging in a nice way


However - where - the line through the X shapes below

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:jDJkzJVgIJRcCM:http://www.cancerquest.org/Images/metaphaseai.gif

- is a ring - with X shapes upon - kinda' like this

|-X--X--X--X-.|
.\-X--X--X--X-/
.\-X--X--X--X/

where

.\-X--X--X--X/

are everting shapes

-v__v---> 2 cones --- stage 1

-v__v---> 2 cones --- stage 2

-v__v---> 2 cones --- stage 3
-^__^--

whereby speed through stage 3 - and we'll see that the shape which we'll see'll resemble
-v__v--
-^__^--

- so a bunch of these
-\-o-/-
....|-
.../ \--

on a string

| == _

_== ())))))) -> side-on the torso is a coil

Thanks to ADDF :: Tracy H.

o
==
to be covered later

and

Thanks to ADDF :: Qinkin

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=6031&rendTypeId=4

== head (in the image above)
- on the left of planet Earth (area within light blue)

noting
-> in light blue
== wasp
and from another perspective
== bee

\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \

==

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:Qi5fW9f3stIJ:www.ccjo.org/images/side/paper-men.jpg

SB_UK
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==

http://www.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:Qi5fW9f3stIJ:www.ccjo.org/images/side/paper-men.jpg

where the eversion leads to


\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \

shifting through from

\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \

to

\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \

to

\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/.........\-o-/
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \......--..../ \


where

......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LET THE MADNESS COMMENCE
ALERT ! ALERT ! ALERT ! ALERT ! ALERT !
......................officially freaky bit warning
......
................(look away if you're an empiricist)
is of some importance - as it represents the path of man into the orthogonal domain -
- the model upon which all of our minds are drawn
- when we fall asleep

(I could have been a scientist -
and now!
and now would you look at me -

reduced to

??? this ??? )

streuth Sheila

Back to the Night Garden

.....http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:wjJ1wcFnCeJ-dM:http://www.champnews.com/blog/lordmoghul/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/in-the-night-garden.jpg
(featuring the ninkynonks)

- our minds tune into

(I could have been a scientist -
hosting a series of hard-nosed investigations into modern trends in tonal g strings and now!
and now would you look at me -

reduced to

??? this ??? )

the ninkynonks:-)

where

......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|


'go to sleep boys ad girls
go to sleep'

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SB_UK
04-04-08, 11:13 AM
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is of some importance - as it represents the path of man into the orthogonal domain -
- the model upon which all of our minds are drawn
- when we fall asleep

- our minds tune into

......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|



...........................................-> space

- when we sleep - and where the structure (shared by all people) - is nourished by the individual insights into reality -
- offered up by all members from our species' history

- and where all that is needed - is communication - and for the subject matter being communicated -
to lead to more efficient structure within that orthogonal domain -
- to be accepted

- thereafter -
access to that space - permits placement or collection -
- dissemination of the various ideas presented within our collective reality-
to those who dare to 'dream' the questions from that common model of reality -

- I believe that communication between two people is enough to incorporate the novel components of reality into the shared common model of reality (global consciousness)

and that - the switch into this phase is associated with the hypnagogic transition
(thanks to ADDF::Nova)
and also that we do create our own rrreality
(thanks to ADDF::Nova (again))

ADDF::Nova
's a swot and would like FrazzleDazzle :-)

......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
So -
I wonder whether we breathe in 8 Hz space :-)
- doesn't feel like it
(slightly strange (though not really) aside)
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|

The pattern of evolution to efficiency in oxygen usage, the tie into nitrogen, water and iron - and observation of plentiful energy would suggest motion to fusion, water generation, reduced oxygen usage (only for incroporation into water and away from CO2 production - and increased nitrogen (atmospheric) usage)

increased nitrogen (atmospheric) usage
- means smellier parps !!!

i-Nos
Thanks to ADDF:Qinkin
inosine
Thanks to ADDF:Nova
(also idea of hydrogen and glycine as the non-chimaeric initiators -
or metalevel shunt into something new -
- in these cases the element in chemistry and protein - basis to life)
imidazole
Thanks to ADDF:Fuse

Nitrogen as the unsung stinky anti-hero of life
life as chemical engineers defined previously
- upon iron, water, carbon, nitrogen and oxygen foundations

- and a universal desire to generate the two polar forms of iron - with water in central position ... ...

Chemistry is the middle ground -
Thanks to ADDF::qinkin
placing 'see' and 'feel' on either side of the pure dielectric of the four bonds of water

Immeasurably magnitudionous
Thanks to Stephen Hawkings
The Universe in a Nutshell: Stephen Hawking (http://www.amazon.ca/Universe-Nutshell-Stephen-Hawking/dp/055380202X)

Hawking saves his biggest question for last, to leave readers wondering "Do we live on a brane, or are we just holograms?"
(A brane is something like a ...
www.amazon.ca/<wbr>Universe-Nutshell-Stephen-Hawking/dp/055380202X
<< ~~~ >>

black body radiation represents the idea of the same |magnitude of energy|
seen to be emitted as excited

-> excitation
==
<- emission

where excitation is energy motion towards > invasive >
and emission is ( release (

< sun > us ( moon )

we experience excitation (son of god) from the sun (crown of thorns)
and
gamma ray emissions from the moon following excitation by solar radiation
[described elsewhere on ADDF]



- the model upon which all of our minds are drawn
- when we fall asleep
- our minds tune into
......|..._ _.._....|..._ _.._...|..._ _.._...|
...........................................-> space




whereby - dissemination of ideas - occurs without actually actually having to tell anybody (thinking is enough - and thinking virtual thoughts and documenting them in a conversation on an Internet forum - is
:-)
more than enough

Thereafter breaking out from the everting Koch curve
Thanks to ADDF::Tracy H.
leads to the stages following metaphase

namely -
we can move on -
broken the social impulse for the previous evolutionary layer
- we can move on

So :-)
IPMAT

metaphase
anaphase
telophase

~s ource (http://www.biology.iupui.edu/biocourses/n100/images/meiosis2cropped.jpg)~

leading to sufficient energy for

...hermaphrodite (metaphase)
........................->
two everted products (daughters)

(see section on 'Noah's ark'
from the post a couple or so above)

Mitosis -> Physiology
Meiosis -> Speciation event

So - simply
.....->-
summary I

One template of mind from which we're all instantiated.

Sufficient information in class model - and the structure of the
model necessitates evolutionary event -
a more complex structure need be formed -
- in which that stage requires

breakage of the previous structure
->-
structural alteration onto a new level
->-
precursor state (the combination of the two duals)
->-
therafter splitting into its two dualities -
which then split into two further dualitites -

which then these four -
2 x 2
double dualties
inter-mingle - until that next level reaches its end.

Imagine a bucket filling with water using only a particularly specific, sculpted and wiggly complex
hosepipe???.
(this metaphor is not my best moment)
:-)
Imagine the bucket changing into a [largerbucket-and-largerhosepipe] combined into one virgin {{{hermaphrodite}}}
->hydrogen/glycine
- and then the buc/ket
and
hose/pipe separating and developing one another - by interbreeding
whereby
the new larger bucket
and
the new larger hosepipe

may need to grow in their own strength (to support more water within or flowing through)
- and other such 'survival issues' -
until the combination of the two - leads to
->-
the hosepipe being able to fill the bucket with ease -
at which point -
- the population of individual hosepipes and buckets (objects instantiated by the completed model)-
which combine to give that larger bucket and hosepipe (template for)

(the model, differential model, class, template etc)

will define a whole buncha' clones if further evolution isn't forced through -
->- clones in the sense
- of the highest emergent property being the same -
in the population of that species

-<- bad

Evolution -
purpose - to increase the information content - required to characterise the species -
- with speciation event

Physiological process - is all about a normal or continuous distribution being hit -
on some new evolutionary character
emergent property

(see RA Fisher 1918)
->
dichotemous -> continuous trait
evolution to variability
regression to the mean == increased complexity -

A continuous normal distribution rather than a binary trait -
requires much more information to be stored -
to efficiently characterize the population within the species

So - that wasn't so simple and so
.....->-
summary II

level I (physical)
-> ends

level II (mental)
-> solves

level III (hippy chickery)
enters

(((receiver/transmitter)))
->
( receiver (
+
< transmitter <

half duplex radio wave communication protocols in our cute little noggins.
->- telepathy using the 8Hz carrier frequency

~boots~
04-04-08, 11:13 AM
http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=6031&rendTypeId=4
that reminds me of the HUGE pimple I had on my chin last week!!!

~boots~
04-04-08, 11:15 AM
LOL..sb..you type so quick..that's impressive ;)

~boots~
04-04-08, 11:27 AM
HIYA :) sandy

MJwatson
04-04-08, 12:54 PM
she's super nice, and very sensitive :D:D aren't you AK:p

LOL! YUP! I am pretty sensitive. UG I hate that about myself!! I think it's because of some sort of self-esteem thing..Dooooorrrrkyyy!!!! :D But, I am me, I love to listen to Tracy and SB..I try to understand him....I do when he uses pictures of cartoons though!! and when he says things like reciprocal butt rub!!
Should have gotten his thoughts before I put that big ol' magnolia on my rear...I had no Idea all of the 'connotations' haha! I consult ya'll before my next ones..:)

mmmmmm Rocky Balboa!!! (not Sylvester) Rocky!!!!

This is the most fun thread I've had in awhile...:)

ADDAWAY
04-04-08, 01:27 PM
I could'a been a contenda ... or had a suspenda ... so I guess that's how I lost my boxer trunks ... so, here, take a gander at the ...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q9QYJAH9L._AA280_.jpg

MJwatson
04-04-08, 01:31 PM
Super-Hot Addaway! Super-hot! :)

ADDAWAY
04-04-08, 01:38 PM
So which track do you enjoy most with the boxers on or off, AK?! :cool:

Mary
04-04-08, 02:11 PM
I could'a been a contenda ... or had a suspenda ... so I guess that's how I lost my boxer trunks ... so, here, take a gander at the ...

Which reminds me.. speaking of suspenda.... men who can't or won't wear decent fitting jeans and have 3/4 of their boxers or whatever showing to the whole world. Definite turn off in my opinion.

I like to check out..to put it boldly.. the form of a mans's behind.


As for the girls who wear those hip huggers... I have no wish to see the crack of your hiney when you bend over. LOL (Although I'm sure the guys don't mind)

Which goes hand in hand with their buying those tiny little tops that are 6 sizes to small....and trying to cover up the crack to begin with.

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:29 PM
..v
>/<
./^
hmmm... suspender..v
>/<
./^

hmmm...contender
..^
</.>
./v
nah!
hmmm... suspender

what price indecision ?

---1---
new pair of black cotton (non-proprietary) trousers (lovely lovely)
//////_\\\\\\\
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/////___\\\\\
////_____\\\\
///_______\\\

---2---
what price indecision ?
//////_\\\\\\\
//////_\\\\\\
/////___\\\\\
////_____\\\\
///_______\\\

hmmm... ... ...
translations???

:-) no problem


http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:8ZX1aV4lAYBaWM:http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1358719/2/istockphoto_1358719_thermometer.jpg
.........._ <- before
................................................////
....................../...\...........///
..................../...........\......//
................./...................\/.
............../..........................\
.........../................/...............\.
......../.............../........................\
...................../



..........._<-after
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:8ZX1aV4lAYBaWM:http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/1358719/2/istockphoto_1358719_thermometer.jpg
................................................////
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............../..........................\
.........../................/...............\.
......../.............../........................\
...................../

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:35 PM
he is perky isn't he ?

:-)

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:50 PM
it's probably easier to go to the toilet their way -
mind you #1 of 2 crouching with the air breezin' on her exposed rump -

isn't she worried that her involuntary sphincter'll give the two thumbs up ?

DeloresMelon
04-04-08, 02:57 PM
Should have gotten his thoughts before I put that big ol' magnolia on my rear.



Magnolias stink btw. lol and unfortunately, SB's posts make me temporarily blind.

Tracy: next... shirts and the "friends" that can't wear them!! Is it ADD related, or just a bad day at Armani! Tune in tomorrow!!!

SB_UK
04-04-08, 02:59 PM
physical level abstraction people (nonADDers) are

->
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:6nlh39MqfgknhM:http://www.wildlifetrust.org.uk/cheshire/IMAGES/watch_earthworm.jpg


in

->

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:hagnRsjfmmjxWM:http://distractiblemind.ambulatorycomputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/windowslivewriterpediatricgrandroundssubmissionsde adline-b17monkey52.jpg

doin'

->

http://www.itchmo.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/547990727_329cbb5bd6.jpg


does mi' heart good to see it in writing.


Take the higher dimensional abstraction

- unless (of course) one wants some place to park one's bike?


(in which case the butt out squad take on interesting community-friendly functionality -

- I think that it's hard to imagine parking one's own bike in one's own butt -
difficult (very difficult))

:-)

SB_UK
04-04-08, 03:37 PM
rape is performed by men who cannot control their sexual urges.

The problem ceases (though)

- to be -

when the automatic response is switched off in males.

It can be switched off (that animal instinct) - rendering the issue of male self discipline worthy of no further consideration.

Just can't happen any more.

The primitive strategy can be killed off -

- presumably in females also -

and of course

Thanks to ADDF::Stabile

for working this out.

... ... only one person (in the world) could have built this model -
it's (actually)

remarkable :-)

geometry ??? Captain

(Spock)

singing voice more for the modern eclectic.


dielectriceclectic electricdialectic

. .............eclecticdielectric

semioticchaotic meioticsemiotic

.... .............chaoticmitotic

esotericperipetetic

mesentericesoteric

peripetetically
corrected

??? Smith ???

:-)

('you can call me Bert')

Hawking later said that the real turning point was his 1965 marriage to Jane Wilde, a language student.

MJwatson
04-04-08, 05:43 PM
So which track do you enjoy most with the boxers on or off, AK?! :cool:

well, to be perfectly honest....I'd go with a whole different Album. Wish you were here is a great song!!!

and off? Nine inch nails I'm totally Old Skool! LOL

MJwatson
04-04-08, 05:49 PM
Magnolias stink btw. lol and unfortunately, SB's posts make me temporarily blind.

Tracy: next... shirts and the "friends" that can't wear them!! Is it ADD related, or just a bad day at Armani! Tune in tomorrow!!!

I think I associate smells with memories or feelings..My mom loved magnolias so now I do. I love my jasmine/vanilla because it smells so good (to me) and it relaxes me and makes me feel pretty! :)

HOWEVER, ;) Although I like these smells...I do not know exactly how many different ways you guys can tell me I stink!!! Perhaps this is one of those times where I am not picking up the hint......:p:p

MJwatson
04-04-08, 05:54 PM
rape is performed by men who cannot control their sexual urges.

:-)

('you can call me Bert')


Bert, I don't think rape has anything to do with uncontrolled sexual urges. I think it's more of a Power Thing...

ps..more pictures...less big words please....oh, and please to not show a cat butt with a magnolia on it....:rolleyes::):D

SB_UK
04-04-08, 07:17 PM
Bert, I don't think rape has anything to do with uncontrolled sexual urges. I think it's more of a Power Thing...

ps..more pictures...less big words please....oh, and please to not show a cat butt with a magnolia on it....:rolleyes::):D

primitive (not modern) mating strategy is an uncontrolled sexual urge (on the masculine side - met by submission on the female)
The power thing (control)
is represented by
> invasiveness upon )

hmmm... ...so am pretty sure that