Went to the PDoc yesterday!!! Great doc, liked him a lot. He is a character, funny, easy to talk to. He asked me a zillion ?????'s I took some written test and he diagnosed me with ADD and nos mood disorder???? I have looked on this forum and couldn't find much about it. He said it means I have some disorder, doesn't know what yet. I said you mean like bi-polar? He said possibly.:eek: I left kind of shocked and bummed. I asked about PTSD and he said, do you have flashbacks, I said no but I have nightmares and cant think about some of these "events" at all or I will be sobbing out of control so I push the thoughts back. Anyway I read on the BP forum and I just doesnt fit, borderline fit somewhat but I don't cut myself and didnt have abandoment issues until the last couple years but those are gone now. Has anyone ever got this diagnosis? The Nos thing?
Meds, he is keeping me on the proprolonal except giving me the time release, and also 150 mg of wellbutrin to be upped next week to 300mg. He gave me samples of both doses of lunesta to see which I need. I took my wellbutrin yesterday and got a horible headache, took aprin and it went away. Read up on both drugs my favorite drug site is this one, askapatient.com
I feel much better even felt better when was having to put up w/ bf's crap. I go back in 3 weeks to see if my meds need to be changed. I fell asleep so fast dont remember any dreams. Woke at 5 am, feel more motivated, also still argueing w/ boyfriend and actually able to argue better. Poor thing hes sc&^ed now :). The Pdoc gave me a choice of three different drug combos and I left it up to him. I was worried about not getting a stimulate, because I dont have motivation but I think this may work. He doesn't do talk therapy and I will have to go somewhere else for that which I will do. I do need someone I can tell all to. My meds are expensive, $135 a month for generic. I cant get the time release on the $5 HEB program. I'll have to use this motivation to start earning $$$$$$$$ to pay for all this.:)

missb, as the depression subsides, the motivation will normally come back, at least it did for me. In regards to the Wellbutrin, I have to be very careful with my caffeine intake now, or I feel really bad and get headaches.

Good luck, hope your feeling better soon

Here is a site with good visual and written material on Mood Disorders NOS and where you may fit on the spectrum:

http://www.a-silver-lining.org/BPNDepth/dsmiv.html


To compare and contrast ADD & bipolar disorder see:

http://www.dr-bob.org/tips/split/Bipolar-disorder-and-ADD.html

http://www.additudemag.com/adhd/article/2511.html


To compare and contrast between ADD & major depressive disorder see:

http://www.princetoncme.com/pdf/programs/2006-191-1.pdf (http://www.princetoncme.com/pdf/programs/2006-191-1.pdf)

http://www.princetoncme.com/pdf/programs/2006-190.pdf (http://www.princetoncme.com/pdf/programs/2006-190.pdf) (Power Point Slides)


To distinguish between ADD & hypomania see:

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40817

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30801

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypomania

http://borntoexplore.org/addmood.htm


Best wishes in your search for a solution! :cool:

addaway, since you seem to be full of resources, do you have any information about a.d.d. and anxiety. Something that maybe explains how people with a.d.d. act and feel when they have anxiety maybe? I'm going through that a lot right now, and sometimes I think I'm bipolar because ofcourse I'm thinking I have every damn disease in the book when it comes to anxiety ;).

addaway, since you seem to be full of resources, do you have any information about a.d.d. and anxiety. Something that maybe explains how people with a.d.d. act and feel when they have anxiety maybe? I'm going through that a lot right now, and sometimes I think I'm bipolar because ofcourse I'm thinking I have every damn disease in the book when it comes to anxiety ;).
The link he has of the comparisn to ADD and Bi-polar ruled me out I believe. That link explained a lot to me. Having a non-specified mood disorder kinda bugs me. I don't know if my Pdoc has a goal of diagnosing me more specific. I think his goal now is the try this and we will see. My anxiety and hypper focus on research and trying to get the answers drives me crazy. I need to chill on that and just work on a few things at a time.

Thanks Kwalk! Here you go.

To compare and contrast ADD & Anxiety see:

http://borntoexplore.org/anxiety&.htm

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/571537

http://www.anxiety-and-depression-solutions.com/wellness_concerns/adhd/010305_adhd_disorder.php

http://jad.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/10/2/141[/URL]

[URL]http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/adult-add-anxiety.html (http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20011005221948)

The link he has of the comparisn to ADD and Bi-polar ruled me out I believe. That link explained a lot to me. Having a non-specified mood disorder kinda bugs me. I don't know if my Pdoc has a goal of diagnosing me more specific. I think his goal now is the try this and we will see. My anxiety and hypper focus on research and trying to get the answers drives me crazy. I need to chill on that and just work on a few things at a time.


lol ME TOOOO

all my anxiety is focused on my a.d.d, yet even on the xanax when I'm calmed down I'm still on this damn site researching.

My mom says that i'm just sick of it and all I want is an answer, so it's completely normal. SHe does think I'm really obsessive at the moment though. I was the exact same way last time I went through depression. My a.d.d. drove me up the wall, and so did everything else. I couldn't stop researching on the internet, I thought I had every disease in the book. Even the seizure where you "blank out"
I even made my mom take me to a neurologist to see if I was having seizures

MMM i love how it says. Don't take stimulants if you're having anxiety, it can make it worse. It also says don't drink caffeine, it can cause more anxiety or a panic attack.

NO WONDER I HAD SUCH A BAD PANIC ATTACK. STIMULANT AND CAFFEINE AT THE SAME TIME.

My PDoc people specialises in two areas: trauma and Adult ADD.

He said that not all people with PTSD have 'flashbacks' (seeing and hearing things from the past that are not currently happening now).

There is a type of _Long Term PTSD_ called COMPLEX PTSD *or* DES-NOS (disorder of extreme stress -NOS), which applies moreso to survivors of unstable families, where the problems with mood, anxiety, inattention start in childhood.

Classic PTSD is more of a 'war vet' thing.

Kwalk is correct.

Stimulants can exacerbate anxiety. [Even some stimulating antidepressants like Effexor.]

NOS just means Not Otherwise Specified. It is just a general category.

You don't sound borderline to me. If you are accurately describing yourself, you are not manipulative or rageful or talionic ('revenge seeking') enough to be a true borderline.

MMM i love how it says. Don't take stimulants if you're having anxiety, it can make it worse. It also says don't drink caffeine, it can cause more anxiety or a panic attack.

NO WONDER I HAD SUCH A BAD PANIC ATTACK. STIMULANT AND CAFFEINE AT THE SAME TIME.


Kwalk, yep there are so many conflicting reports in trying to figure whats best. The more you research (which btw I love doing and will also do it compusivly) the more info you have to try to discern, which leads to unhappieness with so many conflicting choices. And so it is said "ignorance is bliss", "the more I know, the more I don't know"

My PDoc people specialises in two areas: trauma and Adult ADD.

He said that not all people with PTSD have 'flashbacks' (seeing and hearing things from the past that are not currently happening now).

There is a type of _Long Term PTSD_ called COMPLEX PTSD *or* DES-NOS (disorder of extreme stress -NOS), which applies moreso to survivors of unstable families, where the problems with mood, anxiety, inattention start in childhood.

Classic PTSD is more of a 'war vet' thing.


That's funny that you say that. I have come from an extremely unstable family and I've always felt like it has affected me. I always found myself "slightly" depressed my entire life. All of my siblings have problems too, my sister was diagnosed as bi-polar as she was 12 years old. I was 6...I know it made our family a living hell after that. I can't remember one night that my parents weren't fighting, or fighting with my sister. I could never go to bed till like 12am because my parents were fighting so much.
It came to the point where my parents practically fought everytime they saw eachother. My dad was too stubborn to move out, until I finally moved out myself and stayed with my grandma during highschool till he moved out.

We never sat down to eat dinner together, for it was always a fight.
My sister and brother were just always in such a bad mood too, that I never really bonded with them.

I had a lot of therapy when I went through depression, but we never did family therapy. I did some with my mom, but she's so adhd that no one could ever get a word out but herself. Did a little with my sister and brother. I actually get along a lot better with them now. Dad is too stubborn to do it with.

My entire family tends to sleep a lot, except for my mom.


RRrrr how can you help desnos?

Sorry this is all weighing on your mind kwalk :( ... know at least that we're fellow travelers on this tortuous but adventurous path! :cool:

yes quite an adventurous path!

I finally saw my mom today, and she just said that I really need to look towards the future and forget about the past. I do most of the time, but I guess when I find myself low because of all my troubles, I tend to bring myself back to the past. I've beem pretty lonely and a bit homesick too, I never ever get to go home.
Everytime I feel down about my family she starts talking about how all her patients in rehab who have their lives ten times worse, and all her friends who have been through and are currently going through hell too. everyone's life can be hell one way or another, they just don't always tell you.

Atleast a.d.d. has it's positives to it... most disorders/diseases don't.

This is the Serenity mantra that helps me stay thinkin' +++:

Grant me the Serenity to accept what I cannot change*, the Courage and Strength to change what I currently can**, and the Wisdom to discern the difference.* The past, mistakes, the future, other's prior actions or thoughts, what they've already suffered, having ADHD, etc.** What I am doing right now, where and how I use my present energy (including positive thinking), my own current actions, modifying bADD behaviors today, etc.



Really think about this and repeat it to yourself ... often! :)

yes quite an adventurous path!

I finally saw my mom today, and she just said that I really need to look towards the future and forget about the past. I do most of the time, but I guess when I find myself low because of all my troubles, I tend to bring myself back to the past. I've beem pretty lonely and a bit homesick too, I never ever get to go home.
Everytime I feel down about my family she starts talking about how all her patients in rehab who have their lives ten times worse, and all her friends who have been through and are currently going through hell too. everyone's life can be hell one way or another, they just don't always tell you.

Atleast a.d.d. has it's positives to it... most disorders/diseases don't.

When I was at my height of depression and anyone said anything about people who had it worse, it depressed me more! My thinking was already I'm unhappy and there is terrible stuff going on in the world. If I'm really in a funk I won't watch the news. I'm more than well aware about the bad stuff in the world and the sad people. What I tell myself to contradict those thoughts now is that me being down about world, other people, etc. is that there is absolutly nothing I can do for anyone thing when I'm in a sad state. My depression helps noone. If I help myself than I can make a differance for me and maybe get it together enough again to help others. The worry and sadness change nothing.