View Full Version : First day on Dex from Adderall, have questions
KatInOuterSpace 04-01-08, 10:44 PM I was taking 30 mg Adderall in the am and 10 mg in the afternoon.
Today I took 10 mg Dex in the am and 5 in the afternoon.
When I took it this morning it was amazing...immediately I thought...it's so quiet. The constant fast-paced thoughts that never stop were gone.
The dex only lasted a few hours, so I took a 5 mg for the pm. I never got back that feeling from the morning, and when it started to wear off I was very tired.
Is this normal? Will it go away? Should I take 10 mg in the afteroon as well as the morning, or maybe space out 3 5 mg tablets?
Also, what is best to do as far as eating? I felt like I was hungrier on Dex than I was on Adderall.
Uh...eat whatever you want I guess...
Yes, the quiet... thank Jesus... I can concentrate on my environment free from my mind!
Adderall, screw that heart attack crap... I got enough adrenaline being hyper.
5mg is not a high dose... 15mg is perfect for me... but I take 10mg... sometimes I only take 5mg at my last dose... so I can go out on the town prowling
Luthien 04-01-08, 11:12 PM ... so I can go out on the town prowling
the way you phrase that kickstarts my imagination :p .. it's got a soundtrack with lots of guitar noise in it, and motorbikes. Oh, and also some cats ... don't know why, but there you have it.
sorry, back on topic
it was amazing...immediately I thought...it's so quietohh now I see what that cat came from ROFL
ok .. yes, that is so amazing! I wonder why you got 15 mg of dex when you were on 40 of Adderall? They are very similar. I suppose that your ideal dose might be 40 mgs then as well.
I have max 50 mg of dex, I don't always take 50 though. Usually I do a 15 and a 10 mg spansule in the morning, and either the same, or one 15, or two 10 in the afternoon, so that it lasts until bedtime.
the way you phrase that kickstarts my imagination
Sometimes I wear my schoolgirl outfit... it gets a lot of attention and the strippers say "O Gawd that's HAWT!"
You went from 40mg a day of adderall 30/10 and now you are on 15mg a day of dexedrine 10/5. Sounds to me like a major dose decrease. Are you on dex IR or spansule? Regardless any reason why you are not on 30mg a day of the dexedrine? Generally dexedrine is thought of as 75% to adderall meaning 40mg of adderall would be 30mg of dexedrine...
This is not absolute and everyone responds differently, but it does appear that your dose has been lowered and this is maybe why it's not working as well.
I am in a similar situation, I am on 25mg Adderall XR
Ever since I've went from 20mg - 25mg Adderall XR I've been a lot more irritable, leg shaking, nail bitting, restless etc
Easy answer, probably too high a dosage?
Well I also have 5mg booster pills of Dex, if I take 4-5 of them (20-25)mg I am fine but only for 3-4 hours and than I crash.
Anyone have any experience going from Adderall XR to Dex Spansules?
I went from Adderall XR to Dex spansules. For me it was an improvement. I went from 20mg/day Adderall XR to 15mg/day of Dex. It is about as helpful for focus, a bit less obsessive (might not be an issue for some but for me stimulants can cause me to get sucked into activities for long periods of time... I do that to some extent without any medication), a LOT less body side effects (tension, stomach pains, appetite loss, etc were all down). Overall it feels smoother, I feel a lot less drained and irritable at the end of the day when it wears off, and it seems like it lasts a bit longer.
From a purely chemical point of view, or at least according to Shire, Adderall should both last longer (taking longer to metabolize the different salts) and be smoother because it's a bunch of smaller ups and downs overlapping. But from the majority of reports I've read from people who've taken both, Dex tends to be more effective and less edgy.
My conclusion is that every single thing that pharm companies put out as "the new improved replacement for Dexedrine" is purely so that they can get a patent on it and make more money. There are always going to be people that the newer products like Adderall or Vyvanse work better for, for various reasons, and for that reason it's good that these alternatives exist, but I think every claim made by pharm companies of why the newer one is better should be taken with a grain of salt. They're in it for the money, and doctors get a lot of pressure to "recommend" the newest and most expensive drug based on the reasons they give for it being better than straight dex. I would say start with (or try) the simplest, cheapest and most well-understood, Dex, and work your way to other things if it doesn't work for you. Dex should be the staple as it's the simplest, and if it wasn't so much about money it probably would be the first amphetamine tried by most doctors (probably after trying a methylphenidate drug). This entire paragraph is completely opinionated, so take it for what it is.
That said, I found the switch very positive for both my well-being and my wallet.
I was taking 30 mg Adderall in the am and 10 mg in the afternoon.
Today I took 10 mg Dex in the am and 5 in the afternoon.
When I took it this morning it was amazing...immediately I thought...it's so quiet. The constant fast-paced thoughts that never stop were gone.
The dex only lasted a few hours, so I took a 5 mg for the pm. I never got back that feeling from the morning, and when it started to wear off I was very tired.
Is this normal? Will it go away? Should I take 10 mg in the afteroon as well as the morning, or maybe space out 3 5 mg tablets?
Also, what is best to do as far as eating? I felt like I was hungrier on Dex than I was on Adderall.
are you on the extended release DEX? I switched from adderall 30mg extended to 15mg dex extended and it def was an awesome switch for me.
When i was on Dex originally i was on the short release one for alittle and i had the same problems you had until the Extended Release which is why i ask.
-- When it comes to eating youll def feel alot hungrier on Dex then Adderall since it is a fat burner i believe. I havent noticed any weight gain so im sure its prob just speeding your motabolism up, then again i could be wrong lol
bluecow 04-03-08, 09:21 AM I just started dexedrine today, Before I was taking ritalin/equasym, 30/45mg a day.
I have started on 5mg three times daily. Its much smoother than equasym. but I havent got as much done and I felt tired and a bit low this morning. It took me ages to get used to my last meds though. I had lots of side effects.
I think I will try to go to 10mg x3 in a couple of days to see if that has a more positive effect. I just feel a bit like 'yeah whatever' today and lack the focus and motivation I did with my other meds.
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