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Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 12:23 AM When I was 16 I hurt myself and was diagnosed PTSD. I could not talk about my childhood no matter how hard I tried. So, the therapist had me disassociate myself with it at first. Imagining the abuse's happening to another person enabled me to speak of my experiances and face them head on accepting that they had happened to me. There is a better explanation but it escapes me right now. I'm running on no sleep for the last ummmm 50 something hours.
I have yet to come to term's with some of my more adult issue's. But, I have no doubt in my mind they will be a cake walk next to my childhood. The problem is I'm so hyperfocused on the fact that I can't scream,,,I've been talking to some ppl about scream therapy and how it's supposed to help. But, I can't. I have tried for the last I think today is the third day yeah maybe I don't know point is I have been trying everytime I'm alone I let myself feel the pain, degradation, humiliation just everything and nothing I can't scream. So, I separate myself and try to scream for the girl cause sometimes at night I hear her screaming but still nothing. It's so frustrating but it's kinda exciting too it's like a puzzle I want to know the answer but I"m scared but I'm so excited too. It makes no sense.
I want to scream I need to scream but I can't. I know the answer why is right in front of my face but I am so hyperfocused on screaming that I can't.
I honestly want to scream but maybe it's just my genetic makeup I'm soft spoken even when I'm mad I only change the tone of my words not the volume. But, I think it would feel soooo good to scream.
So, my question has anyone tried scream therapy and did you have trouble at first? HOw did you overcome it? Am I doing it wrong. lol Maybe your not supposed to just scream si there a warm up excercise.
I'm laughing but totally serious. And I know this sound's crazy but I find my brain does not work well after no sleep for 30 hours and I'm way past that now. lol
Hugs,
Cherity
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 12:26 AM And before you advise me to go to bed I have tried. But, life is getting in the way lol.
waywardclam 03-04-04, 12:38 AM I would have figured that if you spent a few hours talking with your children's teachers, you would have no trouble screaming whatsoever... ;)
That is an interesting pickle... I hope you make progress on it though...
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 12:43 AM yes quite the pickle...I'll figure it out I"m sure I alway's do
healthwiz 03-04-04, 12:47 AM You are not going to scream, I imagine, until you are in the hands of a caring loving person or persons, a secure environment, a safe environment, a positive place, filled with love, filled with nurturing, filled with understanding, where you can trust those to understand you and to allow you to travel on your path, even if it includes a scream that would rattle buildings. I think only then will you be ready to let out the wail and the tears.
Jon
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 12:50 AM OK wait a minute now I have to actually scream in front of ppl. Why can't I do it alone. I'm not scared.
healthwiz 03-04-04, 01:06 AM Good question! What do your rice krispies think?
redletterruth 03-04-04, 01:07 AM You can scream alone, but its empowering to scream with a witness. To warm up, you might try just easing into it. Try counting up to 20 and letting your voice get louder with each number.
healthwiz 03-04-04, 01:07 AM Goodnight all
Sleep!!! lol
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 01:09 AM lol healthwiz now I'm a joke
redletterruth 03-04-04, 01:23 AM Futs-
huge hugggs
you're tired.
be really gentle with yourself
Hugs, Futs, remember the advice you gave? To hold your child and tell her it's ok...turn that advice on your self...I have screamed before and I put that pillow up to my face and push all the anger and pain I am feeling and just let it explode...
amyschue 03-04-04, 01:31 AM hugssssss Futs.. have you ever tried to do a Primal Scream.. very calming once you are done..
healthwiz 03-04-04, 01:35 AM I couldn't help but notice your rice krispies at the bottom. I didn't have an answer at the moment, so I thought I'd refer to the Krispy folks to see what they advised. No offense meant. And I generally don't take anything you say as a joke. I just needed a moment of humour myself.
Thanks for your understanding
Jon
Lafnalot 03-04-04, 01:37 AM Hugs everyone and makes tea and carrot sticks (Im dieting)
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 01:38 AM NO I'm the one who is sorry because I KNOW you didn't mean it as an insult and I think I KNEW when I read it too. I'm sorry I do seem too attack the wrong ppl when I am entering a new phase of the healing process but it doesn't last forever and I NEVER mean it.
Lafnalot 03-04-04, 01:39 AM Love this forums, only place we get a chance to be us
healthwiz 03-04-04, 01:40 AM G'nite all.
Big trip tommorow and will be off computers a few days probably, unless the hotel has one@!!!
Jon
redletterruth 03-04-04, 01:40 AM I'm glad you're all here. It beats the **** out of the ADD room. Its safer, isn't it?
Lafnalot 03-04-04, 01:42 AM You got it and Jon glad to see you again, Hope your trip is safe and comfy.
apcpapergirl 03-04-04, 01:43 AM Yes, this room is so much safer than the ADD room.
Here, I know I can say anything & people are really listening and truly do care.
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 01:44 AM Yes, but I still can't scream
I took healthwiz advice and got Doug and nothing. Nada, Zilch, Zip good news is I feel the *crash* coming on and I usually figure it out when I'm dead to the world or at least am refreshed and ready to try again.
Once I start something I don't stop until I'm dead or succeed and I'm NOT dead yet.
redletterruth 03-04-04, 01:53 AM Vickie- its always so good to see your posts in here.
Futs- hang in there You're doing good work ..remember what you said to me,,,every day brings you a lottle closer to Cherity
amyschue 03-04-04, 01:54 AM Futs i got a great idea.. Hows about me and Melly ome over with Beer ? get ya to fall asleep.. can read war and peace to you :)
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 01:55 AM NO I don't want to sleep I am too close I'm to figuring out what my hang up is if I'm drunk I won't remember what i figured out.
amyschue 03-04-04, 01:55 AM Ok nix the beer..
redletterruth 03-04-04, 01:57 AM You made it til midnight futs. you are now another day smarter.
Jellybean 03-04-04, 01:58 AM Dear Futs, I can relate, I don't know how to let go. Crying or screaming is especially hard. I mean really crying. I can squash one tear out in extreme frustration and thats it. All my life I had to be independant and tough, I suppose that was what I chose, and needed. Whenever I tried to put that aside, I paid dearly it seemed.
A few months ago,I remember I tried to get my boyfriend to help, say it's alright, let go.. All that sappy stuff that makes you feel that you are safe and can let it out. It really helps but I couldn't fully let go. I felt like he wasn't quite doing it right! Excuses, well actually you just really need to be with someone whom you have nothing to hide. I think I got one of those friends. And because of your thread I decided I will ask him to do some energy work with me. Screaming etc..
Maybe you need a little empathy to provok those primal screams and/or cries? I do.
Janine
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 02:01 AM I don't know makes sense but only person I truly trust is Doug and it didn't work but I got the feeling I know the answer why already I just don't recognize it as an answer or something like that.
Jellybean 03-04-04, 02:15 AM Sometimes the person we are intimate with is harder as we worry deep down that they may take it a teeny bit personal. Or that we hurt them, cause they hurt to see us freak O.K a planned freakout(let go).
You should astro travel to florida when you sleep and we can scream together! Well, it would help me at least!!
I would rather freak out with another woman. I think I could scream alone if I was in a completely sound proof room.
Or a forest, a big deserted forest, even then I would worry that I may worry a stranger.
j9
aquachick_3 03-04-04, 02:16 AM are ya gonna fill us in as to the answer??? i'm curious now
apcpapergirl 03-04-04, 02:25 AM Yes, I want to hear the answer too.
I love you Cherity!
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 07:33 AM I don't know the complete answer yet; but, have not lost hope. Here is what I know.
Lexi is 8 now that bother's me I can now identify why exactly that bother's me and it's my problem not her's and I need to work past that which apparantly subconsciensly I am or she would be locked away from society.
It's soon going to be spring that bother's me in the worst way I know the answer to that one too. But, I do not think this is the place to discuss why. It's not pretty, I'm not ashamed but I am not about to force something like this on someone who cannot handle what they are reading.
These two are linked with my WANTING/NEEDING to scream. The last is the tricky one it's linked with my total inability to scream.
It has something to do with the past and it's like the little girl is screaming the answer to me; but, she's underwater I can't hear her. But, good news I did get 4 hours sleep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Life isn't perfect but it is a great adventure.
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 07:37 AM In all honesty janine I think it came done to not wanting Doug to know how bad I can hurt. He can be a real butt head but he does love me and he hurt's when I do. Not many men would get out of bed just to hold their wife for an hour while she tries to scream.
Yes, we should set a time everyday were "hurt ppl" everywere can do their best and maybe just maybe I will feel safe. See not only women feel the urge to scream. Maybe that's it...I didn't ask Doug to scream with me--he's been hurt maybe he needs to scream with me.
I honestly don't know but I admit it would be a comfort that someone was with me. Stupid as it may seem.
Nachi2004 03-04-04, 08:20 AM Dear Cherity,
Namaste,
I have had several issues in my life and one of them is inablity to bring out the hurt, anger, tears of past and bury them after bringing out to life first...
If they are brought to life and ceremonously buried then they come on the whims and will of their own..disturbing my peace..making me look an real jerk...
Here are some of things you can try.
Have you tried a mirror? Look into the mirror and act the pain, painful events, remind yourself of the remarks, events of past and look into your eyes in the mirror..see for the pain..let it come out..
Make fistsful motions..speak out heart out..maybe it can be of help.
or you may try coxing such emotions to come out of you by reading, watching something that'll stir, disturb your mind so much so that it'll bring out the hidden feelings of anger, scarem or tears.
Also streath your body...its supposed to be a good way of relaseing anger...maybe you wont need to srceam at all.
As far as my limited knowledge of feelings or mind goes..if you purposefully try to push yourself and try to bring the scream, tears out..they will hide futher from you..its a cat and mouse game...so either enact or use some medium, write, paint red, so something to give a physical manifestation to your feelings.
I am not aware of scream therepy but I have dealt with hidden issues, probs like these and though I am not completely free from them..I try to make use of little tactics of my own to clear them out..
Trust all therepies but trust your own heart for remedies..
I think no doctor, therepy can better than your own heart...or its ways to find the answers.
Wishing You All the Luck In your Search for freedom from Hurtful emotions,
With Love,
Nachi
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 08:32 AM Nachi,
The whole idea is I want to scream,,,I know I need too. But, there is one more piece to the puzzle as to why I cannot scream or cry for myself or the child who has been hurt in the past. I feel a drive so to speak to find this answer. I honestly believe the answer is what I have looked for all my "healing" life. I'm close and I will get there I just face a lot of frustration and life keeps getting in the way. But, I have not lost hope and never will.
Hugs and ty
And Nachi, maybe someday you too will be able to just throw your head back and scream and I hope to God I hear it. I'm cheering for you.
Cherity
Nucking_Futs 03-04-04, 09:17 AM Thanks to who ever moved this,,,I think my lack of sleep has dulled my memory...I completly forgot this site was here. Sorry
redletterruth 03-04-04, 10:04 AM hi Futs, you have been a busy girl. Nachi had some helpful things to say. Im coming up empty at the moment but I just want to let you know Im with you and I love you.
healthwiz 03-05-04, 01:10 AM I say check with Psychodrama. Its designed for exactly everything discussed here. And it works, miraculously.
Jon
Here's a thought...perhaps you subconsicously associate screaming with an event, and if you could somehow shield your ears from the sound, yet be able to scream...you might be able to cross over to the next level. You might start with ear plugs you can buy at a drug store. Put them in your ears, and then talk to yourself. You'll be surprised at how muffled the sound is.
Perhaps try reading a paragraph of a book or magazine out loud, as if you were reading it TO someone (with your ear plugs in). When that's done, now imagine that that person can't hear very well...you'll have to read the paragraph again, very very loud.
Once you're done, perhaps go outside (with the ear plugs) and yell the same paragraph. Then...scream. Now you're ready to take the ear plugs out and start the reading process over again.
Hope this is helpful. It has worked with someone else I know.
...and yes, I would imagine that psychodrama might work very well in this instance.
Nucking_Futs 03-05-04, 12:24 PM The only reason I think psychodrama won't work for me is because I worry so much about how ppl view me and what they think of me. I would be worried the whole time over something stupid like "I just know they hate my pants" instead of really working on this.
But, what you say BIG really does make sense. Maybe deep down I'm afraid to hear my pain, like it becomes too real then. I think maybe I will give your idea a try. But, first I have to figure something else out and I have it down to a 15 minute time frame that may have been what changed my life. And I have to put my finger on it to set thing's right.
Thanks guy's I really do appreciate the advice and ideas sometimes it helps to have a third person's point of view. I'm not used to it...I tend to try and handle thing's on my own. I'm trying to work past that because I do see it as a major fault.
Hugs
Cherity
Here's another question to ask yourself: Do you think your fear of screaming is related to OTHERS hearing your pain, or YOU hearing your pain? If its the former...screaming into a pillow will help (though that might make you feel smothered, so...please take this as a helpful suggestion only). Also, you mention the girl being underwater. Its (nearly) impossible to be heard, or scream, underwater. I hesitate to pursue my amatuer analysis any further in this public forum...but perhaps this is somehow related. I hope what I have suggested does not trigger unpleasant thoughts, but rather helps you in your self-healing process.
Please know that you're amongst friends.
Nucking_Futs 03-05-04, 02:30 PM Thanks BIG I do know I'm amongst friend's. I honestly do think you may be on to something the more I think about it. But, for other reason's 1. I don't want to cause other's to feel what I am. Therefore, I do not feel I have the right to ask someone to listen to me try and scream. 2. I honestly feel this is somehow a conscience decision on my part but cannot put my finger on why or when I made this decision. When I figure that out I can figure out how to fix the problem. Don't worry BIG I honestly don't know how to describe how I'm feeling right now other then to give an analagy. It's like giving birth GREAT pain and suffering but at the end OMG at the end there's peace and excitement, unconditional love. I guess in essance I'm trying to let myself out. And when I can do that perhap's I can show myself some unconditional love as well as those I hold dear to my heart.
Hugs and thank you for taking time out of your day everyone to help me.
Cherity
healthwiz 03-05-04, 10:10 PM Your fear of others in a psychodrama environment is totally understandable. When I first went, I was quite scared, almost did not go. But somehow I made it to that first night, and never stopped going, because the growth potential revealed its ability to me that first night, and I was just flabbergasted at what was possible. The work on myself did not begin in the open for a few months, as I too was very self-conscoius. It takes time to acclimate to a group, to feel accepted and safe. Group members understand that new members may not put their stuff out there right away. That delay is almost expected, and when a new member does take the step to put it out there, members really appreciate the courage that takes. But when the time is right, and only the member himself knows when that is, the member will take the venture to put something out there, maybe not the whole enchilada, but something, a start, and then based on how things go, the healing that occurs, it gives members the courage to put the rest out there. Sometimes a little at a time, over time, and the healing is wonderful. The healing is more thorough than anything I have ever seen or heard of. Most psychodrama therapists are well trained in multiple modes of therapy, and have yet to experience a mode of therapy that achieves what psychodrama achieves, which is why they tend to devote their lives to it. There is nothing so wonderful as seeing a person heal, over time, but heal thoroughly, not temporarily, not superficially, not just intellectually, but deeply, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually. That kind of healing allows people to love more, to be more, to reach more in their life goals, to shed many phobias and fears, and to emerge as the person who they really are.
Jon
healthwiz 03-05-04, 10:12 PM By the way, I really love all the support and suggestions everyone here is giving to help a person overcome an obstacle. It is heart warming to see and be a part of!
Jon
Nucking_Futs 03-06-04, 12:23 AM Yes it is...This is all so new to me. I'm used to just smiling thru the pain for fear ppl will see how truly messed up I am. I have never felt more at home then I do among you folks. I know I have neglected many of my friend's who needed me for my own selfish reason's. But, this is something I had to do not only for myself; but, for other's around me.
I finally have the last piece of my puzzle. The reason I do not scream is due to a personal choice I made 23 years ago when I was 8. I had been verbally, mentally and physically punished for a situation I had absolutly no control over and could not have stopped. I remember during the punishment I felt an anger and hatred for my step father that cannot even be described. I am not bad and It is not my fault. That is when I made the decision and promise to myself that NO ONE would EVER hear me cry, beg or scream again. So, I closed my eyes, bit my lip and went somewere in my mind were pain and words could not reach me. I have mixed emotion's about it all. On one side I am surprised by my stregnth. I also find it disturbing that I have never fully given myself to another nor to myself.
Today, I talked to my mother about my past. Having been so young I had to make sure I had my fact's straight. I needed to know because I can't heal myself if I'm still lying to myself. This time my mother was ready to talk and confirmed my dreams and flashbacks. It was painful for her; but, she said of all her children I was the one most affected.
I find it comforting that I no longer feel any blame or hatred toward's my mother. Nor do I hate those who have hurt me. The urge to confront is gone for some reason. It's replaced with a peace? I cannot describe.
Now I find myself slowing down. I feel I may need to tread lightly here and remember advice I have given to many in the support group. Healing comes in it's own time,,,it cannot and should not be rushed. I am working toward's this goal just not pursuing it with my usual head down, straight on attitude.
I want to once again thank everyone for the support and understanding I have received I know I was not the easiest person to be around and I am sure there will still be day's that I find painful and rough but I'm no longer afraid to face the pain, it's part of the healing process. A big thank you to those who made the Women's Abuse section a reality, I truly believe without the ladies in this group and those who have personally taken an interest in helping me find my answer's I NEVER would have accomplished it. For once I no longer feel alone. I love everyone of you and your right I'm not that bad after all. lol
Hugs and kisses,
Cherity
Hey you,
I hope you find the strength that you truly possess and are able to do what you have to do to truly "heal". I am at a loss of words for a long response, but you will always have someone to "bounce things off of" when you "need" me.
Hugs (the big squeeze the snot out of you kind).
redletterruth 03-06-04, 01:08 AM Cherity,
You go girl!! It sounds like you really do have the last piece of that particular puzzle. Congrats on having the bravery to talk to your mother and confirm your memories. You did some fabulous work, Cherity. I;m really proud of you. LOve Claudia
Nucking_Futs 03-06-04, 01:13 AM WEll I have to admit I find my stubbornness and hard headedness to be an asset at times lol.
But, seriously thank you and I'm sure that in the future I will need to take you up on that Ken,,,the good news is I have honestly confirmed my belief's all along NOT ALL MEN ARE BAD I do take a lot of comfort in that.
Hugs,
Cherity
SubtleMuttle 03-06-04, 02:47 AM Wow, that's great... and you have such awesome support on this thread alone and you are so brave I am at a loss typing
But just about the screaming, if you still feel you would like to scream aloud; I do primal screams a lot and they can be very helpful, from the pit of the stomach. When I was younger I had trouble screaming (but not like you describe) so I just wanted to make a suggestion. To do it I had to try to think like a vocalist and learn to sing, then scream, through my diaphram (no, not that kind!! ;) )
Music is really healing. It doesn't matter if you think you can sing well or not (most people think they are no good no matter what), but maybe singing to loud music that you truly love that really moves you in a very POSITIVE way; music that feels happy. Sing louder and louder, sing to lyrics where the singer almost starts screaming and try to imitate them as best you can and have fun with it, even letting loose and getting goofy if that's easier (I don't know what music you are into; but steven tyler, janis joplin, james brown are some examples- not screamers but very forceful vocalists, esp. Joplin... if your into nirvana or tool that's a different story :) ) Maybe that way you could work your way up to screaming for any emotion or reason.
Or maybe you could try playing REALLY LOUD music in your house one day a week so that in order to talk to your family screaming becomes a neccesity for mundane things instead of intense emotions.
Also, martial arts involves 'keops' (the korean word for it anyway): a force of air, or air and sound, from deep in the stomach with a physical movement. Not screaming, but can be very loud and just as forceful. Doesn't have the strong emotional strings that screaming does either; more meditative. That maybe could be another step towards screaming.
These are just suggestions, don't know if they are appropriate for you but I hope you find your loud voice, and more importantly do it the way that is best for you
Good luck Cherity, you are inspiring, much love
Nucking_Futs 03-07-04, 02:31 AM Actually, I do help with the TaeKwonDo classes...I was a black belt until they started a new method and I found myself at a loss. So I stepped down and started over as white belt as everything including forms have changed. I can speak loudly, yell and have no trouble with my 'keops'. I just can't scream you know one of those ones that comes from your toes and let's the whole world know your there.
I am not sure what I am going to do with all this...Right now I kind of find myself comforted but also extremely afraid. I may have to set it down and walk away for awhile,,,I'm having a hard time deciding my next step and I honestly do think from here on out I need to show myself a little patience.
Lafnalot 03-07-04, 02:38 AM sings like axel rose a lil patience yea yea
I love that song:D
Futs, Sweetie, I am so happy you figured it out...you what time it is now...Healing time....so say Jar Jar Bink Moderator:P
Nucking_Futs 03-08-04, 02:54 AM Yes, I know what time it is. The problem is I find myself at a loss and really confused as I'm not sure how to go about healing myself. And at the end of this road what's next? What if I do not like the new person who emerges? I don't know I'm almost terrified. It's stupid I know but I cannot get over it either.
redletterruth 03-08-04, 09:56 AM Futs
You nkow how to heal yourself. I know cuz you know how to help others heal. And please know that you will like yourself when you are healed cuz you'll just be yourself only better (if thats possible!) So keep coming back, and sharing, and taking what you can you use, and being gentle with yourself, and learning how to love others, and forgive (them and yourselves), and being gentle wth yourself, and oh- did i mention being gentle with yourself?? LOL
Nucking_Futs 03-08-04, 10:04 AM lol yes I think you may have mentioned that a time or two and I do agree with you whole heartedly. I'm a patient person usually just have never shown myself any. I think maybe this is going to be not only a healing experiance but a learning lesson. Imagine how cool it would be to not ride myself so hard, to actually show myself some patience. Can't hurt that's for sure.
Nucking_Futs 03-17-04, 09:33 AM :D TODAY I SCREAMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Today, I took the advice of my 10 year old son:rolleyes: . He said I would not be so freaked by his iguana if I would just sit down and hold him. Well, he neglected to inform me that iguana's are fast little buggers.
So, there I am. Holding this MONSTER in my hand when he decides to go for a walk about ON ME:( . He ran up my arm and down my shirt before I could catch him. For those of you who have never touched one of these critters they are cold, clammy and have claws.
After running around the garage, jumping over the tire ramps, knocking the shelves down trying to get this THING out of my shirt I started panicking. :wacko: Next thing I know I'm running out of the garage SCREAMING at the top of my lungs.
I'm sure it was quite a racket and sight as I was running up and down the street screaming and trying to get my shirt off with my 10 yr old son on my tail yelling "don't you hurt samson".
I ended up screaming so loud and long that three of my neighbors responded and were trying to catch me and get me to sit still long enough for them to get the iguana out of my shirt. Funny thing is I was so freaked out that I couldn't stop screaming. So, there I am laughing, crying, screaming. Talk about some strange looks. But, the funny thing is I DIDN'T CARE!!!!!!!!!!! how's that for nuts? lmao
Well, next time I decide I need a good scream I'll just refer to my memory cause there is NO WAY in H-E-double hockey sticks that I'm touching THAT thing again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:nono:
You know....I was going to mention the iguana-down-the-shirt therapy method :D
LMBO
Glad ya got it out (the scream AND the iguana!):)
apcpapergirl 03-17-04, 10:16 AM wooooohooooo Cherity!
I am so glad you got it out.
I Love You
Vickie
Lafnalot 03-17-04, 10:17 AM Ahhhhhhhhhh Futs! I swear you were placed on this earth for comedic releif , what would we do without you? i am just crying here laughin
Nucking_Futs 03-17-04, 10:28 AM shut up lol. No honestly I couldn't even get the WHOLE story out I was laughing so hard just retelling it. My neighbors already think I'm nuts but they love me anyways. I could think of far worse thing's then being comec relief that's honestly why I think God gave me life.
redletterruth 03-17-04, 01:56 PM LMBO LOL ROTFLMAO. All good things come to those who wait,,,,,,,especially those who pray for a scream even though they complain about the method used. You remind me to be careful what i pray for. (Dear Lord, please teach me how to scream but DON'T PUT AN IGUANA DOWN MY SHIRT. Please Lord, teach these children to behave and don't let them eat the daisies. Oh my goodness, this is good for a three day grin! I celebrate with you futs!!
LOL
(Lots of Love)
Nucking_Futs 03-17-04, 04:36 PM lol Claudia I know exactly what you mean...From now on my prayer's will be a lot more specific that's for sure. But hey, it wasn't as scarry as I thought it would be. the whole screaming thing I think scared me a little. Would I be able to stop? YEP eventually and after a shower lol. Would I feel better? OoooOOOOOOOo yes!!!!!!!!! Would I be ashamed? heck NO!!!!!!!! *laughs* I'm actually quite glad I have given you a three day smile.
redletterruth 03-17-04, 05:12 PM I am too.....the only things that usually can give me a three day grin is OH YEA, I don't think we're supposed to talk about that here. Wrong forum. LOL
Nucking_Futs 03-17-04, 05:15 PM lol Claudia your naughty!!!!!!!! *giggles*
redletterruth 03-17-04, 05:41 PM i know. once i slept with a guy for the first time and he sent me a dozen rose the next day with a note that said "Keep Smiling" He didnt sign it so the girls in the office couldnt figure out what it was all about,,,and couldnt figure out why I couldnt stop smiling
LOL
Nucking_Futs 03-17-04, 10:36 PM *laughs hysterically* I would have guessed.
Heh I would have guessed too and asked for pictures
OK I just read the iguana thing and omg I am so happy your finally got it out hun...
Don't be so upset at the iguana....he was just be kinky(uh friendly), and it took a lil devil like that to finally bring it out I am just picturing you from what you said....Had I been there..omg woman.... LMAO OMG I can't stop laughing!!!!!!
I mean this in the most loving way possible....I am happy for you and for the igauna for boldly going where NO iguana a gone before!!!!!!!!!!
Nucking_Futs 03-18-04, 08:37 AM lmao I'm not mad at him I just REFUSE to touch him again.
But he seamed to enjoy it so much the last time you did touch him...he had to return the favor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nucking_Futs 03-18-04, 08:42 AM EWWWWWw I suddenly feel the urge to shower again. labo
Nucking_Futs 03-18-04, 08:43 AM labo = lmbo I'm lauging so hard I can't even laugh my butt off right. sheesh
LMBO just be grateful it wasn't a :frog:
Nucking_Futs 03-18-04, 09:11 AM OOooooooo man do not go there lol
concerned mom 03-18-04, 09:34 PM hahahahhaha .. boy is my mind running away from me today ..I started reading the messange from last to first ( from where the last one i read was posted) I read the part (But he seamed to enjoy it so much the last time you did touch him...he had to return the favor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ) and first thing that poped in my mind was sex or 4play hahahhahahahahahahha .. guess thats what happens when you go 3 months without it .. lol .. Not my choice either.. pregnancy problems then birth then tubes tied lol
Nucking_Futs 03-19-04, 12:22 AM lol that's why sometimes it's better to read a book from the back to the front. I know exactly what you meant this pregnancy was not an easy one for me either.
Energizer_Bunny 03-20-04, 12:12 AM Aw futs, I am so glad you got it out. Next time I see an iguana, I will remember you. And I hope I never see one.
Nucking_Futs 03-20-04, 12:27 AM lmao
If I ever visit ya FUTS..I will know the exact present to get ya...:frog:
Energizer_Bunny 03-20-04, 01:13 AM Futs, this is just for you.............it even has its own devil costume on.
Jellybean 03-20-04, 03:05 AM this idea is a bit late since you have found "Iguana Therapy" but I thought I would mention,, screaming under water. A bathtub will do. I have had a little release doing this. I am a compulsive bather, not for cleanliness, just for water.~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~j9
OMG Bunny...LMBO
Janine...I like baths they are relaxing...and I have screamed in a tub before and also the Pillow method is just as good
Nucking_Futs 03-20-04, 11:01 AM lol you know it's not so bad letting the whole world hear you. I suggest you all try the iguana method. lol Bunny too cute.
redletterruth 03-20-04, 11:17 AM Iguana therapy....now that I think of it, especially with my son, I spent YEARS learning how NOT to scream. <VBG>
concerned mom 03-20-04, 11:19 AM thats funny bunny
Nucking_Futs 03-20-04, 11:24 AM OMG I know exactly what you mean. Last summer my four year old nephew chased me around and around the house with a gardner snake. Man, was I ever freaked. OOOOoo and let's not forget the fake spider's that jump out at you while doing laundry or the play snakes left in a dark hallway at night. And the huge and I do mean huge frog my son decided to befriend and let sleep in his bed cause he missed his mommy (the frog). He and his dad got the biggest kick out of hearing me yell Koda's name and finding me in the hallway backed into a corner by a frog. Boy's I don't know who said they were easier. But, I'm thinkin they never had a male child.:nono:
If you kissed the :frog: would he turn into a prince...try it and let me know would ya?
Nucking_Futs 03-20-04, 04:49 PM I'm thinking one word right now Mel...
NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmmm Most guys I Kissed turn into total toads....Wonder if it works in reverse...But I dunt think I will try it...sigh
Nucking_Futs 03-20-04, 05:45 PM Maybe you kissed the wrong end?
LMBO!!!!!! No real differnce both end smelled the same....eeeewwwwwwww
Energizer_Bunny 03-23-04, 06:40 AM Ya know Futs, I got to thinking about screaming, and I can see what it is hard to just SCREAM. I have not tried to do it, but thought about it and I don't know if I could.
It is almost like you need cause and effect for it to happen, and from there ya let it rip..............
Nucking_Futs 03-23-04, 07:55 AM I think your definatly on to something Bunny...I wanted to scream I just needed an excuse to let it out. What I find funny is my neighbors are being absolutly hilarious about the whole issue. When I see the man who helped me get the iguana out of my blouse I give him a big smile and he blushes and looks at the ground lmbo. It's only comforting to know that I can scream should I ever feel the urge.
redletterruth 03-23-04, 08:28 AM The IGUANA GRIN IS BACK. lmbo,
Bunny, what is thie about "letting her rip" Smile
Nucking_Futs 03-23-04, 08:39 AM lol isn't that a hoot. I know I will cerainly not sit down wind.
redletterruth 03-23-04, 08:41 AM Cherity-
did you get any sleep at all?
Nucking_Futs 03-23-04, 08:57 AM NOPE luckily I don't have to drive us to the clinic...But, this time daddy won't be there to hold the baby thru all those awful test's so it's all up to me.:(
redletterruth 03-23-04, 09:00 AM Hugggs
Hang in there Cherity. You're not gonna be alone :D
Nucking_Futs 03-23-04, 11:43 AM Thanks for reminding me Claudia but I did just get a call from Doug he rescheduled Garrett's appt. because he know's I can't handle those situation's so we will be going AFTER daddy gets home lol I"m such a coward.
redletterruth 03-23-04, 01:34 PM No, you're not a coward. You're very brave; you just are dealing with fear. ANd you have to be afraid to be brave so there. I'm glad Doug will be going with you. HUggs
Nucking_Futs 03-24-04, 02:40 AM I was so happy to have him there too considering that we got a flat tire on the way back and no matter how many times Doug show's me I still can't change one but I'm a good helper he say's lol.
redletterruth 03-24-04, 01:57 PM So what happened? How is Garrett?
Energizer_Bunny 03-26-04, 09:40 PM Ruth,
Rip, must be a Texas thing..........and can be used in many ways
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