I suspect as long as posters can leave anonymous (and nasty) negative red point feedback, threads are going be derailed by the people who have received them complaining about how it was unfair or how they were misunderstood. I really wish we could just loose the reputation points completely. Is there any chance that might happen?

I agree although I'm kind of guilty of this on one occasion. It doesn't help when you don't know who is being nasty and for what reason.

perhaps just get rid of negative reputation points?

If you don't like a post or something, bring it up with them or the moderators.

Positive rep points are good. Or i like them at least. Great self esteem boost!

Bottom line: The rep system is here to stay. Please make the most of it (by handing out rep, as you see fit), and reporting abuse of the system to Admin.

Please note: Receiving a negative rep point is not considered abuse of the rep system. However, should a member receive an abusive comment, or feel as if they're being "targeted" for negative reputation points, feel free to contact an Admin. We will investigate and take appropriate actions, which may include removing the negative rep. point & comment, issuing warnings, infraction points, account suspension or banning.

I think people should be required to leave a comment if they give a negative reputation point. They shouldn't be allowed to leave a blank negative rep just because they can. If the negative rep is blank you can't tell for sure if it's legitimate or if someone is just clicking the "I disapprove" option just because they can.

I think people should be required to leave a comment if they give a negative reputation point. They shouldn't be allowed to leave a blank negative rep just because they can.

Until such time as we implement a different reputation that enforces that, I would suggest that members add their name to a rep comment being left. This is voluntary, of course.

I’m on other boards where rep is used and seriously abused to the extent that it is practically ignored or even used to pass so called witty comments back and forth. Since I have no control over who agrees with me and who disagrees with me, I find it easier just to ignore the rep function. This is where the thank you function comes into it’s own. It is so much more reliable for good rep. I don’t see the point of bad rep. If you disagree with someone say so openly, don’t hide behind neg rep.

I don’t see the point of bad rep. If you disagree with someone say so openly, don’t hide behind neg rep.

Everyone has the right to voice their opinion, but perhaps some would be less inclined to express how they feel if there was the risk of being jumped on or attacked for their opinion. Imagine someone who comes across a thread and they disagree with a member who's very active, and appears to be one of the "popular" members. Imagine the fear of reprisals, either in public or in private message?

You can't please everyone all the time (including those on this forum). Take the comments you get with a grain of salt. Discount those comments you believe to be inaccurate, and report abuses to the system.

I realize that many like to ruminate and focus on what is perceived to be bad things in life, but there's a tremendous amount of good that comes from our feedback systems here.

I find a lot of warm fuzziness feeling in the "thanked" posts I receive, MUCH moreso than an odd negative rep point. :-)

Andrew,

In a perfect world and all that. I understand. But my advice was for people who find it annoying. It isn’t the most important thing that is going on around here - but sometimes it is best to simply ignore it.

What constitutes abuse of the rep system?

If someone leaves negative reputation simply because they don't like the poster's opinion, is that an abuse?

I'll quote from the FAQ section (which I wish everyone would read)

The Reputation system is a broad, informal measure of how a community's members collectively value each other's input. It's hoped it can be used more in fun than in conflict. Re-read the post in question: perhaps there was a reasonable, objective reason why a fellow user felt the way he or she did about what you wrote.

However, we don't want the Reputation system to inhibit participation, and we know it can be abused by people with too much time on their hands. If you feel that you received a Reputation score unfairly, please send a link to the post in question to a forum administrator.

Doesn't the reputation system only further complicate our already off kilter social abilities. We have ADD, ADHD, and a trunk full of other issues, learning disabilities and the like.

So now we're here, looking for a common thread and a common bond with SOMEONE that doesn't ridicule us, look at us like we're wearing white after labor day or think we're just lazy.

Yet you've instilled a system where we are unable to hide from our own insecurities. We can have someone negate us and tell us just how much of an idiot we are. And it's in our control panel to refer to whenever our self esteem seems to be moving upward.

I can get all the negative feedback I want simply by waking up and being myself. I came here to discover ADD, learn about others experiences living with it and to find ways to cope.

I did not however come here to accidentally offend someone, (which by the way I have apologized for any offenses I'm made aware of) and be called out for yet another of my annoyances. I'm not perfect, I daresay none of you are, and really don't feel that I need a barometer of my social skills.

Can't we just be free of this social nonsense and if we have a problem with someone or they with us, handle it via PM. PM me if I offend you, if I feel your concern is valid, I apologize. If not, I reply that I feel it's not valid then I place you on ignore. The End.

Amen!

Great point... Delores! Thank you!

Great point! However, in my own personal opinion (not the opinion of any other staff member), this isn't the "escape from the realities of the world" forum. We have real people with real opinions, real problems, and the desire to contribute to the greater good of the Community. Will there be spoil sports? Yes. However, most are here to learn from the experiences of others...and to gather factual information. We will all have opinions about how something should work, look, taste, smell, etc. We (Admin) can't please everyone...not even some of the time. We realize we're usually painted as the bad guys for having to take administrative actions and making what some may think are ill advised decisions. I can assure you that every decision made is to help the community grow, flourish and shine. Forums Reputation systems work quite well when they're not abused. Please review the Reputation System FAQs.

Thanks.

I'll quote from the FAQ section (which I wish everyone would read)



Originally Posted by Reputation FAQ
The Reputation system is a broad, informal measure of how a community's members collectively value each other's input. It's hoped it can be used more in fun than in conflict. Re-read the post in question: perhaps there was a reasonable, objective reason why a fellow user felt the way he or she did about what you wrote.

However, we don't want the Reputation system to inhibit participation, and we know it can be abused by people with too much time on their hands. If you feel that you received a Reputation score unfairly, please send a link to the post in question to a forum administrator.


Most of the comments left in the reputation section are too short to make any sense of, or to try to understand what the poster's reasoning might be.

Seems like it would be a good idea to put a person like that on my Ignore list, but there's no way of knowing who wrote the comment.

I agree with Delores that this could be very devastating for someone who is already struggling with social issues and cannot defend or debate such criticism.

Seems like the best thing I can do is to turn off the reputation feature. I hope the system remembers that I have it turned off so I'm not ambushed by something negative next time I log in here.

"It's hoped it can be used more in fun than in conflict."

Keep hope alive I guess. I can't see how you can avoid conflict and the reputation system seems all too inviting for just that very thing.

But for some, it may be just the ticket. For the rest of us, I suppose we'll do our best to ignore it.

I do however thrive on reputation systems when I'm contemplating a purchase. Great idea, wrong arena.

Keep up the good work Andrew. You must have the patience of Job, or quite a drug habit.

Thankfully, we have an incredible team of Admins, Super Moderators and Moderators to help keep things running here. Patience? Drugs? Are both legal on an ADD Forum? :)

I agree although I'm kind of guilty of this on one occasion. It doesn't help when you don't know who is being nasty and for what reason.


Well I only mentioned it after you did Chris;)

I say why not only have positive feedback and eliminate the negative feedback. Why does anyone on here need any negative feedback anyways?

Well I only mentioned it after you did Chris;)

I say why not only have positive feedback and eliminate the negative feedback. Why does anyone on here need any negative feedback anyways?

Well...members could start an educational campaign (via thread) teaching other members about the benefits of the positive feedback system, and discouraging negative feedback.

The feedback system is the way it is. Learn to embrace it :)

Well...members could start an educational campaign (via thread) teaching other members about the benefits of the positive feedback system, and discouraging negative feedback.

The feedback system is the way it is. Learn to embrace it :)


Well I figured I was being educational since the person only left me a single insult word and misspelled it too (as I mentioned in my post after Chris's)

I plan to only send positive and useful feedback and if I have an issue with a statement someone makes...I will have the guts to mention it in the thread and attempt to do so respectfully.

Well I figured I was being educational since the person only left me a single insult word and misspelled it too (as I mentioned in my post after Chris's)

I plan to only send positive and useful feedback and if I have an issue with a statement someone makes...I will have the guts to mention it in the thread and attempt to do so respectfully.

Great! Also, if you feel the system is being abused and you're at the end of the stick, feel free to contact an Admin.

What I have always found to be a bit confusing when reviewing complaints about rep points, flaming, hidden agendas, etc. is that those who have complained have either used the system to give negative points, skirted the guidelines for flaming by creating several antagonistic posts, or have been fairly consistent across the board with the same or similar message.

The rep system, like any other award system is not perfect but it, as with all of the other warm and fuzzies that are distributed on the board, is a means for people to be heard. Can it be abused? Sure and so can the thank yous. There were some on the board that felt our ribbon system wasn't fair, especially since they weren't being nominated and given a ribbon.

Point being...we can't make everyone happy and life unfortunately isn't all positive. A system that pats everyone on the back soon loses significance. That's why it's special when someone recognizes you, and sometimes important to get feedback so you know when you've said something that is disagreeable to others. Take it all with a grain of salt.

I've only given out one negative rep. point ever but it was a mistake :p

I just want to make this clear - I wasn't complaining about receiving negative rep points. I know that not everyone is going to agree with me.

What I don't like is the anonymous nature of the reputation system.

I belong to another discussion forum where I post a LOT and they also have a similar system (called Karma points) but their system automatically tags every red or green point with the giver's name.

That allows the receiver to either write that person a PM and try to reach an understanding or clarify the issue . . . or to put that person on "ignore".

Here it is all or nothing. If I choose not to accept anonymous Nasty-Grams by turning off the reputation comments, then I also miss out on any comments made by people who may have misunderstood or who are able to say "You've got a right to your opinion but I don't agree" as well as all the "I agree" or "That's an interesting point" comments.

So - I know it is possible to put in a system that isn't anonymous, and I don't like being told "This is what it is, we don't want to change it, so just suck it up and stop complaining."

And I admit - I did send a negative rep yesterday without signing it to demonstrate how ridiculous and unfair I find this to be.

Okay, I got curious to see what people (cowards) might have to say about my last post, so I took a peek at the rep comments.

Again I got one that said "disagree" - no way to know which part of the post the person disagrees with? No way to have a discussion to see if we can possibly see each others point of view. Bah!

And one that said, "If you stop complaining people will stop leaving neg feedback." Balderdash. The first two neg feedback I got were before I made any complaints - and they are why I complained about the system in the first place. To me that is so backwards.


Hmm, I think I may have found a third option - other than just "dealing with it" or turning off the reputation comments in my profile... Since I can't send the person a PM to ask what they disagree with or try to clarify just why we disagree, I can copy their comment to a thread like this one and ask those questions here.

Will give this some more thought.

All this reputation points and everything else that has been added is the main reason I never post anymore or for that matter , hardly ever even come anymore

It has just become another website where everything and the kitchen sink is being pushed at you

The forums has lost the feel of a comfortable place to call home

All in the name of adding more stuff that in my opinion really wasn't needed

My 2 Canadian cents worth

That's sad to hear, Garry. On the Internet, static websites get boring and lose traffic quickly. Communities like the ADD Forums have a constant influx of new members who get to chose between staid and (relatively) static communities, or the ADD Forums. It takes all kinds to make a good community.

As I've said elsewhere, we can't always please everyone. While we're sorry you're not pleased that the forums isn't the same it was when you visited here previously, we're not apologetic for trying new things and constantly trying to evolve into a place that many people find interesting and fun (while remaining informative and helpful).

...and now that I've derailed this thread a tad...back to the original topic: Anonymous Nasty Feedback and Derailed Threads (ironic, isn't it?)

Comments below

All this reputation points and everything else that has been added is the main reason I never post anymore or for that matter , hardly ever even come anymore

That is sad, as there is much more than the rep points.

It has just become another website where everything and the kitchen sink is being pushed at you

The forums has lost the feel of a comfortable place to call home
Ya know, we are thin skinned and moving up or improving ones self image is taking criticism

All in the name of adding more stuff that in my opinion really wasn't needed
Constructive feedback should help us grow

My 2 Canadian cents worth
You are the ones who have Loonies and Toonies, Correct? Thats better than saying my looney worth, if ya know what I mean ;)

That's sad to hear, Garry. On the Internet, static websites get boring and lose traffic quickly. Communities like the ADD Forums have a constant influx of new members who get to chose between staid and (relatively) static communities, or the ADD Forums. It takes all kinds to make a good community.

As I've said elsewhere, we can't always please everyone. While we're sorry you're not pleased that the forums isn't the same it was when you visited here previously, we're not apologetic for trying new things and constantly trying to evolve into a place that many people find interesting and fun (while remaining informative and helpful).

...and now that I've derailed this thread a tad...back to the original topic: Anonymous Nasty Feedback and Derailed Threads (ironic, isn't it?)

I thought that actually addressed some of my concerns, but not in a good way. Although I can appreciate trying new things to make improvements and just keep things from going stale, when more people seem to dislike the new sparkly thing than seem to like it, and when some people are abusing the new thing and it can't be tweaked to prevent that, then perhaps it's time to get rid of the new thing.

I know you can't please all of the people, and it's entirely possible that my own feelings of ickyness about this new thing are coloring my perceptions, but in my perceptions more people dislike the rep points system than like it. Maybe you could poll the members - but if some have already left because of this issue, then the poll might not accurately reflect "the will of the people." Which of course, as a privately owned forum you are entitled to ignore completely.

please don't get rid of the THANKS BUTTON :(
I LOVE to give thanks ....

I must be Queen of thanks..I just noticed I have given 1407 thankyous, that are ALL heartfelt and sincere..

(ok..where's my bucket...??? I make myself gag when I am nice)

please don't get rid of the THANKS BUTTON :(
I LOVE to give thanks ....

I must be Queen of thanks..I just noticed I have given 1407 thankyous, that are ALL heartfelt and sincere..

(ok..where's my bucket...??? I make myself gag when I am nice)

This isn't about the thanks button, it's about the reputation system.

With the thanks button it automatically says who is leaving the comment. The rep system is completely anonymous, and makes it too easy for cowards to leave neg comments and even rude comments without saying who they are or why they disagree or think you're lower than pondscum.

This isn't about the thanks button, it's about the reputation system.

With the thanks button it automatically says who is leaving the comment. The rep system is completely anonymous, and makes it too easy for cowards to leave neg comments and even rude comments without saying who they are or why they disagree or think you're lower than pondscum.

yeah yeah..ok...burst my bubble...

I suspect as long as posters can leave anonymous (and nasty) negative red point feedback, threads are going be derailed by the people who have received them complaining about how it was unfair or how they were misunderstood. I really wish we could just loose the reputation points completely. Is there any chance that might happen?

have you any posts that you can show me what you mean, and where they are please?

have you any posts that you can show me what you mean, and where they are please?

They were in my reputation comments section, I don't think anyone but me can read those messages.

It seems the system dumps them to make room for new ones so I can't copy and paste the ones that were really snarky.

Even the ones that just say "Not true" are frustrating to me, because I don't know who left them and can't ask which portion of my post they feel was wrong, or talk about why I posted that or why they disagree. I find that very frustrating. It seems to defeat the whole point of a "discussion" forum.

Okay, here's an example. The last red reputation comment I got was "You don't get it" in response to this post...


I certainly agree about debate (as long as it doesn't become so heated that personal attacks take the place of debating the issue), and I'm pleased to see that you are reconsidering the validity of some alternative treatments for ADHD.

But I don't understand why alternative treatments (supplements, diet, exercise, etc) are considered to be the last resort for people who don't find the medication route to be helpful. Why should pharmaceutical treatment be the preferred option?


Okay, clearly I don't get it, and that's why I was asking the person to explain. DOH.

I don't appreciate having someone who doesn't have the courage to sign their name basically call me stupid because I didn't understand and took the trouble to ask a question.

yeah, see, that's a perfect example of "Thank you Captain Obvious!"

isn't there also another word or phrase for that? Passive aggressive? Stupid?

"you don't get it" is that meant to insult you or reiterate what you're trying to say in the actual thread?
In which case, why waste their time pointing out what you already know? Hmmm... seems this reputation (a.k.a. system to hide behind) system gives hooligans a new platform for their hooligan behavior.

Or, you're just being stalked by someone that doesn't know how to say "I like you".

yeah, see, that's a perfect example of "Thank you Captain Obvious!"

isn't there also another word or phrase for that? Passive aggressive? Stupid?

"you don't get it" is that meant to insult you or reiterate what you're trying to say in the actual thread?
In which case, why waste their time pointing out what you already know? Hmmm... seems this reputation (a.k.a. system to hide behind) system gives hooligans a new platform for their hooligan behavior.

Or, you're just being stalked by someone that doesn't know how to say "I like you".


Eeep!

... pulls the covers over my head and hides...
:p

Thank you all for sharing your often strong feelings about the reputation system. We truly do value everyone's opinions, shared both via private message and in the public forums. Its nice to see that members feel so comfortable communicating their honest feelings about a subject. I personally appreciate the outpouring of supportive private messages (and positive rep points ;) )

Administration will discuss the feedback we've received, and should there be any change to the features of the forums, we'll let you all know.

Thanks! :)

Thank you all for sharing your often strong feelings about the reputation system. We truly do value everyone's opinions, shared both via private message and in the public forums. Its nice to see that members feel so comfortable communicating their honest feelings about a subject. I personally appreciate the outpouring of supportive private messages (and positive rep points ;) )

Administration will discuss the feedback we've received, and should there be any change to the features of the forums, we'll let you all know.

Thanks! :)

Thank you for listening, and for at least considering our feelings and opinions.

I really don't see the value in a system where the thumbs-up or the put-downs are left anonymously. Neither one has value to me when I don't know who left them and can't PM that person to ask a question or try to communicate better. I've made some excellent friends on the other forum by doing that in response to a reputation comment, but there have also been a couple of people who said to never contact them again. Which is fine with me, because then I know who to leave alone and can remind them to leave me alone as well if they ever poke their nose into my business again.

So, since I don't see the value here I really hope you will either upgrade the system to show who left the comments or get rid of the rep system completely.

Thank you for listening, and for at least considering our feelings and opinions.

I really don't see the value in a system where the thumbs-up or the put-downs are left anonymously. Neither one has value to me when I don't know who left them and can't PM that person to ask a question or try to communicate better. I've made some excellent friends on the other forum by doing that in response to a reputation comment, but there have also been a couple of people who said to never contact them again. Which is fine with me, because then I know who to leave alone and can remind them to leave me alone as well if they ever poke their nose into my business again.

So, since I don't see the value here I really hope you will either upgrade the system to show who left the comments or get rid of the rep system completely.

I think you've made your feelings and opinions on this matter very clear.

Thanks for the feedback!

I think you've made your feelings and opinions on this matter very clear.

Thanks for the feedback!

Good to know. I've been accused of being too confusing in my posts and not making sense, so I'm glad I was able to make my feelings clear enough this time. Appreciate you letting me know.

Appreciate you letting me know.

You're welcome! I'm all for providing feedback :)

I have tried to sign my messages and repoints with my name, either negative or positive

If the rep. system showed the name of the person the nasty feedback and derailing of threads would stop. I don't think we need to get rid of it just make it show the name of the person who left the rep. (I think other people have said this already)

That way for example if someone left me negative rep saying 'ignorant' or 'wrong' I'd be able to message them and sort it out. How was I wrong? what bit of my post did you think was ignorant? etc. I reckon most of those type of comments would stop because the people making them wouldn't be able to hide anymore. They might even think twice and leave something constructive, rather than just calling someone stupid.

Anyway...I think the most important part of this website are the users. We don't need gimmicks like a reputation system to make the site more popular.

Thanks to the mods for at least listening to us. In many forums this type of thread would be deleted right away :)

Cheers

If the rep. system showed the name of the person the nasty feedback and derailing of threads would stop. I don't think we need to get rid of it just make it show the name of the person who left the rep. (I think other people have said this already)

That way for example if someone left me negative rep saying 'ignorant' or 'wrong' I'd be able to message them and sort it out. How was I wrong? what bit of my post did you think was ignorant? etc. I reckon most of those type of comments would stop because the people making them wouldn't be able to hide anymore. They might even think twice and leave something constructive, rather than just calling someone stupid.

Anyway...I think the most important part of this website are the users. We don't need gimmicks like a reputation system to make the site more popular.

Thanks to the mods for at least listening to us. In many forums this type of thread would be deleted right away :)

Cheers

Thanks for your feedback. I personally don't believe that anything will keep some people from derailing threads. There will always be some spoilsports.

Wow, talk about hyperfocusing! :p You guys are obsessed about this rep system thing.

That's true. I should have said derailing because of the anonymous feedback would stop, because of suspicions and paranoia.

Since most of us have ADD the derailing will be around for a long time :) intensional or not.

I normally wouldn't worry about something like this but these forums are my 'safe haven' if you know what I mean. I have enough nasty feedback in my life, I just don't think it belongs here. Maybe I shouldn't treat the forums this way, even though it's the internet it's still 'real life'.

That's all I've got to say about it anyway :) I'm not going to leave this awesome place because of one thing

I have to say, when I spread around a lot of positive stuff, it feels really good. Some days, I look for people to compliment. I like to help people feel good. That is what I like about the system. Only thing, I'm not sure people check it out enough. I know I just forget to check mine! It makes me feel good too to see the positive comments. I know we complain and are put back by the negative stuff, but most of the time, to me, they don't mean as much as someone who took the time to make someone feel good. That is where the value in the system is for me.

I can get all the negative feedback I want simply by waking up and being myself. I came here to discover ADD, learn about others experiences living with it and to find ways to cope.
This says it all, but I do think the positive part of the reputation button has it's value. I appreciate a pat on the back and I'm sure most other people do too.

Hopefully this isn't too long. I thought it was a very appropriate post from a blog I enjoy.
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2005/05/on_critics_crit.html


Fear of criticism is a powerful deterrent because the criticism doesn’t actually have to occur for the fear to set in. Watch a few people get criticized for being innovative and it’s pretty easy to persuade yourself that the very same thing will happen to you if you’re not careful.

Constructive criticism, of course, is a terrific tool. If a critic tells you that, “I don’t like it,” or “this is disappointing,” he’s done no good at all. In fact, quite the opposite is true. He’s used his power to injure without giving you any information to help you to do better next time. Worse, he hasn’t given those listening any data to make a thoughtful decision on their own. Not only that, but by refusing to reveal the basis for his criticism, he’s being a coward, because there’s no way to challenge his opinion.

I admit it. When I get a bad review, my feelings are hurt. After all, it would be nice if a critic said a title of mine was a breakthrough, an inspirational, thoughtful book that explains how everything, from politics to wine, is marketed through stories.

But sometimes they don't. Which is just about enough to ruin your day. But this time, it didn’t. It didn’t because I realized what a badge of honor it is get a bit of shallow criticism. It means that I confounded expectations. That I didn’t deliver the sequel or the simple, practical guide that some expected. It means that in fact, I did something worth remarking on.


Here's the real money-shot. Whether you get good or bad criticism, you can benefit.


The lesson here is this: if I had written a boring book, there’d be no criticism. No conversations. The products and services that get talked about are the ones that are worth talking about.

So the challenge, as you contemplate your next opportunity to be boring or remarkable, is to answer these two and a half questions:

1. “If I get criticized for this, will I suffer any measurable impacts? Will I lose my job, get hit upside the head with a softball bat or lose important friendships?” If the only side effect of the criticism is that you will feel bad about the criticism, then you have to compare that bad feeling with the benefits you’ll get from actually doing something worth doing. Being remarkable is exciting, fun, profitable and great for your career. Feeling bad wears off.


Nobody is going to beat you up because you have a low or negative reputation. It feels bad for a little while, but even completely irrelevant, mean, or unhelpful commentary can be useful to you. Go ahead and post what you will post, and remember that the world doesn't end if someone marks you badly.

But sometimes they don't. Which is just about enough to ruin your day. But this time, it didn’t. It didn’t because I realized what a badge of honor it is get a bit of shallow criticism. It means that I confounded expectations. That I didn’t deliver the sequel or the simple, practical guide that some expected. It means that in fact, I did something worth remarking on.

Most excellent point - the opposite of love isn't hate but ambivalence - better to be criticize than ignored - maybe a worth while perspective change

In the mean while I myself have made an effort to leave my user name after my "vote"

Gosh is there a happy medium like an off button or an invisible thing for those who feel it is a competition - I am always for individual choice because apparently it does bother some members. People criticize me but at my age I am used to it because I figured out long ago some people are just not going to enjoy my finer points so my rough edges will probably grate on their nerves - Like in school some papers were "A" papers some were not. {shrug} - I try to make it positive by being positive and giving out positive points based upon the post not necessarily who posted it- other wise it would just be a popularity contest - I can't stop people from using the system for negative reasons I can do my part to prevent it via my own personal use.

please can I ask what reputation points are?

is there a difference between infamy and notoriety?

why is there only one word for fame?

maybe disreputable is cool ?

Either way - what are reputation points?

someone should correct the points for number of friends.

I have this thing about impure statistics.

the guy with loads of reputation points is likely to be way better as his number of listed friends diminishes.

I believe
*provably* so.

It'd have to be nonparametric and involve 'counts' -
poisson

anybody

yes I know -

glug glug glug

If the rep. system showed the name of the person the nasty feedback and derailing of threads would stop. I don't think we need to get rid of it just make it show the name of the person who left the rep. (I think other people have said this already)

That way for example if someone left me negative rep saying 'ignorant' or 'wrong' I'd be able to message them and sort it out. How was I wrong? what bit of my post did you think was ignorant? etc. I reckon most of those type of comments would stop because the people making them wouldn't be able to hide anymore. They might even think twice and leave something constructive, rather than just calling someone stupid.

Anyway...I think the most important part of this website are the users. We don't need gimmicks like a reputation system to make the site more popular.

Thanks to the mods for at least listening to us. In many forums this type of thread would be deleted right away :)

Cheers

I had to highlight part of your post because I think it was brilliant. :)

Hopefully this isn't too long. I thought it was a very appropriate post from a blog I enjoy.
http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2005/05/on_critics_crit.html



Here's the real money-shot. Whether you get good or bad criticism, you can benefit.



Nobody is going to beat you up because you have a low or negative reputation. It feels bad for a little while, but even completely irrelevant, mean, or unhelpful commentary can be useful to you. Go ahead and post what you will post, and remember that the world doesn't end if someone marks you badly.


Thank you for sharing that. It really helps me to put this into perspective. I was talking to Doctor Sally on talkradioblog yesterday, and she remarked that some of my issues are probably due to fear from my childhood that still lingers, and certain things can trigger those fears in me even if they're not really related. Fear can be difficult to outgrow sometimes.

Generally I appreciate criticism, because it prompts me to take a look at what I believe or how I'm expressing my opinion, and can lead to a really active discussion. Leaving a comment like "disagree" or "you're wrong" doesn't help to do either of those things. It was interesting to see that the author of that blog agrees that anonymous comments like that are cowardly and a waste of bandwidth. :rolleyes:

It's never fun nor easy to be given criticism. However, you can choose what you want to do with the feedback.
You can decide if your rep points are meaningful to you or not, if you choose to change how you post or if you let it roll of your back, or if you don't read the rep points at all. Your choice :)


ETA: blueroo - i thanked you because i think your post is spot on.

right O

if the person leaving the negative is a ninny anyway, then who cares?
don't know who left a negative? then if the comment is stupid, again, who cares? Not stupid, then they are now officially a coward for not leaving their name... see above.
left a negative with no comment, no name? ..... do you see a pattern... WHO CARES?

anyone worth talking to will leave a reasonable comment and their name and be willing to discuss it with you.

Otherwise...

say it with me folks...

WHO ******* CARES?????

Now, who wants fries?

I mentioned something about other boards I know of where rep is abused. I just want everyone to know that I very much appreciate the rep I receive here. It’s used a lot less often, making it all the more valuable when you do get it.

Good or bad rep, I think anyone posting rep should leave their name.

I mentioned something about other boards I know of where rep is abused. I just want everyone to know that I very much appreciate the rep I receive here. It’s used a lot less often, making it all the more valuable when you do get it.

Good or bad rep, I think anyone posting rep should leave their name.

Ah but... we're talking about a bunch of ADHD folks who probably forget to add their name, especially if they are used to a system that automatically includes that information for them.

Too true. So maybe leaving little reminders around the board occasionally will remind them.

I got a nice one today. "Chill out" ;)

It took one of my green boxes away though :o whatever will I do with only three green squares :'( (joking)

First person to 3 red boxes gets a sticker.

I got a nice one today. "Chill out" ;)

It took one of my green boxes away though :o whatever will I do with only three green squares :'( (joking)

First person to 3 red boxes gets a sticker.

You mean 3 red boxes at the same time?

I had that earlier this week.

I'd like a Rocky and Bullwinkle sticker please. http://www.addforums.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8o/http://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8ohttp://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8o/sticker.gif

sorry I ran out of Rocky ones :(

http://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8o/http://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8ohttp://users.tpg.com.au/adslxs8o/sticker.gif

sorry I ran out of Rocky ones :(

**sighs, and wipes away a trickle of drool**

Oh, Bullwinkle! My darling, my valentine, my secret love. It was you I wanted all along... now I can see that Rocky was just teasing me with his talk of speeding along, soaring through life, rescuing damsels in distress. You, my dear Bullwinkle, are my soul mate, bumbling and stumbling through life and being a real friend indeed. I shall love you forever. And I promise, on my word of honor, that I'm not some deranged fan that is stalking you. I really, really do love you, and I hope you love me too.

:p

Back on topic please :)

Lol! I only see five rep lines. Is that all I get to see or is there an archive button I'm missing? Do the others just fade into the background never to be seen again?

Lol! I only see five rep lines. Is that all I get to see or is there an archive button I'm missing? Do the others just fade into the background never to be seen again?

Only the last 5 are displayed.

Only the last 5 are displayed.

Yep, derailed my own thread. :p


Er... what's the punishment for that?

Being forced to sit and watch 12 hours straight of Barney, the purple dinosaur? Eeep!

Only the last 5 are displayed.That depends on one's psychic abilities.

That depends on one's psychic abilities.

I KNEW you were going to say that :p





Ok folks...looks like we can bring this thread to a safe and complete stop. Thanks for keeping your hands and feet inside the car while it was in motion!

I appreciate all those that have participated in this thread.