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I used to be a dreamer, I used to be optimistic.
then real life set in.
recently, one guy here at work made a comment (half serious, half joking). He asked "what are your friends suicide rate around you?"
I was a bit put off at first but then got thinking.
I believe I'm a realist. I'm not one for the cheeky mantra of "think of the worst and if something good happens then it's a pleasant surprise".
human nature alone depicts us as a bunch of selfish, arrogant and rude people. Energy wasted on "hope" is energy spent on focusing on the real goal.
so.
are you:
1) Optimistic - one who will almost always be let down
2a) Pesimistic A - one who expects to be let down
2b) Pesimistic B - one who expects to be let down but secretly maintains a level of hope
3) Realist - what happens is what happens. wastes no energy on hoping when it's always inevitable that we make crap-sticks with crap. Oftentimes, someone who is efficient with expectations and plans for the worst.
4) Idealists
5) ...have I missed anything?
-s
~boots~ 05-15-08, 11:28 AM I'm a realist :)
If it's meant to be, It'll happen..
that way, no let downs at all..
I love it
newfdog 05-15-08, 11:31 AM I too am a realist. Many times people take it as negative thinking, but it's not.
NonSequitur 05-15-08, 11:35 AM I'm a realist too. Everything is what it is and whatever happens happens.
I try to go into new things without preconceived ideas, more with the idea of seeing what will happen.
I'm hopeful too, that things will work out one way or another.
~boots~ 05-15-08, 12:00 PM SEE!! we are all NORMAL :)
NonSequitur 05-15-08, 12:01 PM Yes we are. It's the rest of the world that isn't.
busyhermit 05-15-08, 12:16 PM I used to think i was a realist, but have come to learn in therapy that I am more like your 2a-type pessimist. I tend to have "catastrophic thinking", panic easily when something goes bad, and in general expect the worst in every situation.
That's terrible what that guy said to you at work. My worst insult of late was from my husband who said that I'd "drown in a glass of water". Really hurt my feelings even though it's true.
Speaking of glasses of water - I've always been told I'm the "glass is half empty" type. Why set yourself up for disappointment, right? Expect and be prepared for the worst at all times - that's my motto. Unfortunately, over a lifetime this led to me to the point where I no longer see the positive possibilities as all - I don't dare hope for fear of disappointment. This is no more "realistic" than someone who believes that things will be perfect all of the time. So I've found out I'm not a realist after all.
~boots~ 05-15-08, 12:23 PM My first boyfriend said to me
(after the condom broke)
"just IMAGINE you ARE pregnant!, so if it happens, it's not a surprise, and if it doesn't happen, it's a good thing and you'll be happy"
Be a pessamistic....
I actually listened to him for a few years, but I have changed my tune now
NonSequitur 05-15-08, 12:39 PM Speaking of glasses of water - I've always been told I'm the "glass is half empty" type.
The way I see it, whether the glass is half empty or half full depends on how it started. If it was empty to start, then it's half full. If it was full, then it's half empty. :p
~boots~ 05-15-08, 12:41 PM The way I see it, whether the glass is half empty or half full depends on how it started. If it was empty to start, then it's half full. If it was full, then it's half empty. :p
yeah..exactly..I think..:D
super-(less)-ego
not-liable
the 'unlabel'
It is what it is.
~boots~ 05-15-08, 12:45 PM super-(less)-ego
not-liable
the 'unlabel'
It is what it is.
OMG..where did you pop out of????
I used to do real life.
Then I became optimistic.
Now I am a dreamer.
OMG..where did you pop out of????
Your screen?
lmbo.. I'd say I am more of an optomistic realist..does that make sense?
Grafter 05-15-08, 02:45 PM My glass is full.:)
Which is good. It appears there are a lot of thirsty people around here. I can share!
Bluerose 05-15-08, 04:15 PM I got so peed off at everything going wrong, things working out just as I thought they would. So I decided to try an experiment. What if I began to expect things to work out. I began to read about positive thinking. I began to exchange the negative thoughts for more positive ones and it worked. So long as I'm not feeling too crappy, like now, I can usually get through by staying positive. And that's what I'm trying to do now. But I wouldn’t go as far as saying I'm an optimist, that would be just too much pressure. So I'll settle for being and optimistic pessimist. And maybe a bit of a dreamer. Don't knock dreamers - A tree really did grow in Brooklyn.
DeloresMelon 05-15-08, 04:27 PM I don't know the terms really. I do know I'm pragmatic.
I know that when something out of your control happens, why dwell on what could have been... it was out of your control to begin with.
I know that if something good happens it doesn't light this karmic candle that's going to burn me on the other end. I don't fear good things, and I don't anticipate bad things.
I do however, learn from past experiences and habit that if something does this when I do that, 12 times in a row, it's likely going to do it again.
I don't make bad things happen to myself, nor can I wish good things. What is, is.
Whenever something goes wrong, I usually see, find, seek the good in it. I try to find the positive in each situation. occasionally I'm left biting my tongue because sometimes people don't want to hear about how good that dead guy has it, at his funeral.
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 12:31 AM Optimist-Realist-Idealist
kinda a mad mix of the three...depending on the situation
SuzzanneX 05-16-08, 03:33 AM I'm a champian idealist.
eNFp
abstract in thought and speech, informative and extraverted when relating with others. For Champions, nothing occurs which does not have some deep ethical significance, and this, coupled with their uncanny sense of the motivations of others, gives them a talent for seeing life as an exciting drama, pregnant with possibilities for both good and evil.
This type is found in only about 3 percent of the general population, but they have great influence because of their extraordinary impact on others. Champions are inclined to go everywhere and look into everything that has to do with the advance of good and the retreat of evil in the world. they are eager to relate the stories they've uncovered, hoping to disclose the "truth" of people and issues, and to advocate causes. This strong drive can make them tireless in conversing with others, like fountains that bubble and splash, spilling over their own words to get it all out.
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp
myers/briggs/jung typology test
very accurite..
.....when you get the results save the page to your favorites.
or at least the 4 letters, so you can read more about yourself
here
http://www.keirsey.com/
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 04:45 AM i did the test and researched my results from a couple other diff sites as well. lol
I got INTP .. the wizard.
http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/intp.htm
i did a personality test once when i was depressed/suicidal and got INFP..my mind obviously wasnt in the right place at that time tho so these results are much more reliable. As Im in the right frame of mind :)
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 05:22 AM wait actually..
i did the test 4 times on 4 diff websites lol
and got INTP 3 times and ENTP once.(makes sense as i can be extroverted but primarily introverted and like to spend alot of time on my own)
tho im not extremely structured with everyday things (untidy room, etc) but extremely structured (and hyperfocused) with my interests (just not always in sequetional order but makes sense to me..)
and i do analyse everything (like im doing right now) esp my interests!!
Also i think that when i have lots of ideas and im skipping from one to another and not just focused on one i am more extroverted and vice versa.
But when there is something im hyperfocusing on and really really interested in, i become alot more introverted and become really focussed on whatever im interested in..and nothing else seems to matter as much..
blah..im analysing everything right now.
it all adds up anyways..
:D
SuzzanneX 05-16-08, 09:56 AM INTP rational
Architects need not be thought of as only interested in drawing blueprints for buildings or roads or bridges. They are the master designers of all kinds of theoretical systems, including school curricula, corporate strategies, and new technologies. For Architects, the world exists primarily to be analyzed, understood, explained - and re-designed. External reality in itself is unimportant, little more than raw material to be organized into structural models. What is important for Architects is that they grasp fundamental principles and natural laws, and that their designs are elegant, that is, efficient and coherent.
Architects are rare - maybe one percent of the population - and show the greatest precision in thought and speech of all the types. They tend to see distinctions and inconsistencies instantaneously, and can detect contradictions no matter when or where they were made. It is difficult for an Architect to listen to nonsense, even in a casual conversation, without pointing out the speaker's error. And in any serious discussion or debate Architects are devastating, their skill in framing arguments giving them an enormous advantage. Architects regard all discussions as a search for understanding, and believe their function is to eliminate inconsistencies, which can make communication with them an uncomfortable experience for many.
Ruthless pragmatists about ideas, and insatiably curious, Architects are driven to find the most efficient means to their ends, and they will learn in any manner and degree they can. They will listen to amateurs if their ideas are useful, and will ignore the experts if theirs are not. Authority derived from office, credential, or celebrity does not impress them. Architects are interested only in what make sense, and thus only statements that are consistent and coherent carry any weight with them.
Architects often seem difficult to know. They are inclined to be shy except with close friends, and their reserve is difficult to penetrate. Able to concentrate better than any other type, they prefer to work quietly at their computers or drafting tables, and often alone. Architects also become obsessed with analysis, and this can seem to shut others out. Once caught up in a thought process, Architects close off and persevere until they comprehend the issue in all its complexity. Architects prize intelligence, and with their grand desire to grasp the structure of the universe, they can seem arrogant and may show impatience with others who have less ability, or who are less driven.
Albert Einstein as the iconic Rational is an Architect
All Rationals (NTs) share the following core characteristics:
Rationals tend to be pragmatic, skeptical, self-contained, and focused on problem-solving and systems analysis.
Rationals pride themselves on being ingenious, independent, and strong willed.
Rationals make reasonable mates, individualizing parents, and strategic leaders.
Rationals are even-tempered, they trust logic, yearn for achievement, seek knowledge, prize technology, and dream of understanding how the world works.
Rationals are the problem solving temperament, particularly if the problem has to do with the many complex systems that make up the world around us. Rationals might tackle problems in organic systems such as plants and animals, or in mechanical systems such as railroads and computers, or in social systems such as families and companies and governments. But whatever systems fire their curiosity, Rationals will analyze them to understand how they work, so they can figure out how to make them work better.
In working with problems, Rationals try to find solutions that have application in the real world, but they are even more interested in the abstract concepts involved, the fundamental principles or natural laws that underlie the particular case. And they are completely pragmatic about their ways and means of achieving their ends. Rationals don't care about being politically correct. They are interested in the most efficient solutions possible, and will listen to anyone who has something useful to teach them, while disregarding any authority or customary procedure that wastes time and resources.
busyhermit 05-16-08, 10:36 AM Interesting - ISTJ (should just be "IS" as "T" and "J" were both 1% ;) !). The Keirsey description fits pretty well, though. Due to my social anxiety, I avoid people a little more than described.
newfdog 05-16-08, 10:46 AM 4gotAgain
Thanks for the link. I looked at ISFP and boy is it accurate. So much it is scary, especially about the midlife stuff. I think I may have to print it out and take it to the therapist.
Here is mine http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/isfp.htm
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 10:48 AM oh true are you the same?
or possibly I am more INFP? or is it possible to be between both INFP and INTP?
i share traits of both. if you see the results from both..
http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/intp.htm
http://www.personalitypage.com/INFP.html
As i am a feeler
but also a thinker.
as i perceived the answers to these questions it leant to more the thinker.
maybe miss analyse to the feeler type? As my impulsiveness can lead me to the feeler type. do i rate myself according to how i act when im impulsive or to how i react usually?
Do I answer to how i am usually or certain instances?
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 11:26 AM INFP?
in actual life im not totally emotional but sensitive.
i dont really express my feelings..its mostly inside?
so would that lean more towards INFP
or
INTP?
i tend to analyse alot, ask why
quick thinker
hyperfocus on my interests intensely.
possibly lean towards INTP when hyperfocused?
and i tend to get hyperfocused on things for a while..
Grafter 05-16-08, 11:47 AM My type is:
Type (strength of preference)
Extraverted (89%)
iNtuitive (38%)
Thinking (50%)
Judging (33%)
Visionary / Idealist<O:p
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 01:15 PM i read both the infp and intp profiles
i think im closer to the INFP.
though when i hyperfocus i tend to lean more towards the INTP. e.g get obsessed with working things out, stick to schedules and routines of doing things, analyzing, etc...i was thinking from that frame of mind when taking the tests.
So I'm like a mix between INFP and INTP...
http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/ INFP
http://www.geocities.com/lifexplore/intp.htm INTP
SuzzanneX 05-16-08, 01:47 PM grafter
A RATIONAL MASTERMIND...WHOA!
http://www.keirsey.com/handler.aspx?s=keirsey&f=fourtemps&tab=5&c=mastermind
All Rationals are good at planning operations, but Masterminds are head and shoulders above all the rest in contingency planning. Complex operations involve many steps or stages, one following another in a necessary progression, and Masterminds are naturally able to grasp how each one leads to the next, and to prepare alternatives for difficulties that are likely to arise any step of the way. Trying to anticipate every contingency, Masterminds never set off on their current project without a Plan A firmly in mind, but they are always prepared to switch to Plan B or C or D if need be.
Masterminds are rare, comprising no more than, say, one percent of the population, and they are rarely encountered outside their office, factory, school, or laboratory. Although they are highly capable leaders, Masterminds are not at all eager to take command, preferring to stay in the background until others demonstrate their inability to lead. Once they take charge, however, they are thoroughgoing pragmatists. Masterminds are certain that efficiency is indispensable in a well-run organization, and if they encounter inefficiency-any waste of human and material resources-they are quick to realign operations and reassign personnel. Masterminds do not feel bound by established rules and procedures, and traditional authority does not impress them, nor do slogans or catchwords. Only ideas that make sense to them are adopted; those that don't, aren't, no matter who thought of them. Remember, their aim is always maximum efficiency.
In their careers, Masterminds usually rise to positions of responsibility, for they work long and hard and are dedicated in their pursuit of goals, sparing neither their own time and effort nor that of their colleagues and employees. Problem-solving is highly stimulating to Masterminds, who love responding to tangled systems that require careful sorting out. Ordinarily, they verbalize the positive and avoid comments of a negative nature; they are more interested in moving an organization forward than dwelling on mistakes of the past.
Masterminds tend to be much more definite and self-confident than other Rationals, having usually developed a very strong will. Decisions come easily to them; in fact, they can hardly rest until they have things settled and decided. But before they decide anything, they must do the research. Masterminds are highly theoretical, but they insist on looking at all available data before they embrace an idea, and they are suspicious of any statement that is based on shoddy research, or that is not checked against reality.
Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke, Dwight D. Eisenhower, General Ulysses S. Grant, Frideriche Nietsche, Niels Bohr, Peter the Great, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Lise Meitner", Ayn Rand and Sir Isaac Newton are examples of Rational Masterminds.
Grafter 05-16-08, 02:11 PM Thanks SuzX!
I hadn't read the Keirsey explanation before. It's dead-on target. :D
I've found that most of type-indicator tests have been fairly accurate in their descriptions of my personality traits.
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 03:33 PM lol actually i researched a little more and found there is a "type INxP" which is a combination of both INTP and INFP (or one only slightly stronger than the other) but that is only given if the Feeling or Thinking percentage is very low (which it is in my case) and if you do more than one test and it gives more than one result (between the two)..which it is also in my case.
It basically means I show traits from both the Thinking section and Feeling section.
Both types are Introverted Intuition (modern types: INFJ, INTJ)
It makes alot of sense.
I was looking on the INTJ forums..i googled and found that there are actually a small amount of people who have the same kind of results between INFJ and INTJ..
and im sorry i do go on but i really do analyse everything as my personality trait answer says. lol
4gotAgain 05-16-08, 04:13 PM sorry meant modern types :INTP, INFP..
and on further analysis I maybe more of an INTP than an INFP...INTP also show emotion and are sensitive..??
"They usually have complex characters, and may tend to be restless and temperamental."
http://www.personalitypage.com/INTP.html
roly poly 05-17-08, 12:29 AM I used to be the pesimist B type, but thought that it brought on all my ill luck, so I tried postive thinking and things still turned out the same way, I think just being a realist fits my life best, I can't change most things, but how I deal with them makes it so much much better.
ADDAWAY 05-17-08, 12:33 AM Still expanding me mind ... workin' on ABC still.
SuzzanneX 05-17-08, 03:14 AM mine was so accurite, it reminded me who I was when I forgot.
....it's dead on...exactly like me.
busyhermit 05-17-08, 01:41 PM lol actually i researched a little more and found there is a "type INxP" which is a combination of both INTP and INFP (or one only slightly stronger than the other) but that is only given if the Feeling or Thinking percentage is very low (which it is in my case) and if you do more than one test and it gives more than one result (between the two)..
So I could be an ISxx - since my last two letters are 1% ;). No idea what that means, except that I guess I'm just all over the board. I noticed there's no other IS**'s yet.
I always get INFP or close to it.
SuzzanneX 05-17-08, 04:29 PM Idealist Portrait of the Healer (INFP)
Healers present a calm and serene face to the world, and can seem shy, even distant around others. But inside they're anything but serene, having a capacity for personal caring rarely found in the other types. Healers care deeply about the inner life of a few special persons, or about a favorite cause in the world at large. And their great passion is to heal the conflicts that trouble individuals, or that divide groups, and thus to bring wholeness, or health, to themselves, their loved ones, and their community.
Healers have a profound sense of idealism that comes from a strong personal sense of right and wrong. They conceive of the world as an ethical, honorable place, full of wondrous possibilities and potential goods. In fact, to understand Healers, we must understand that their deep commitment to the positive and the good is almost boundless and selfless, inspiring them to make extraordinary sacrifices for someone or something they believe in. Set off from the rest of humanity by their privacy and scarcity (around one percent of the population), Healers can feel even more isolated in the purity of their idealism.
Also, Healers might well feel a sense of separation because of their often misunderstood childhood. Healers live a fantasy-filled childhood-they are the prince or princess of fairy tales-an attitude which, sadly, is frowned upon, or even punished, by many parents. With parents who want them to get their head out of the clouds, Healers begin to believe they are bad to be so fanciful, so dreamy, and can come to see themselves as ugly ducklings. In truth, they are quite OK just as they are, only different from most others-swans reared in a family of ducks.
At work, Healers are adaptable, welcome new ideas and new information, are patient with complicated situations, but impatient with routine details. Healers are keenly aware of people and their feelings, and relate well with most others. Because of their deep-seated reserve, however, they can work quite happily alone. When making decisions, Healers follow their heart not their head, which means they can make errors of fact, but seldom of feeling. They have a natural interest in scholarly activities and demonstrate, like the other Idealists, a remarkable facility with language. They have a gift for interpreting stories, as well as for creating them, and thus often write in lyric, poetic fashion. Frequently they hear a call to go forth into the world and help others, a call they seem ready to answer, even if they must sacrifice their own comfort.
Princess Diana, Richard Gere, Audrey Hephurn, Albert Schweiter, George Orwell, Karen Armstrong, Aldous Huxley, Mia Farrow", and Isabel Meyers are examples of a Healer Idealists.
I am a dreamer. I am always making up new dreams.
SuzzanneX 05-18-08, 01:33 PM ...you're not the only one.
I hope someday, they'll join us, and the world will live as one.
Sandy4957 05-18-08, 08:32 PM If I recall correctly, I'm an ENTJ.
Definitely an optimist. I'll consider what I will do if the worst happens, but rarely anticipate the actual worst (except for my clients; I'm much more a realist/pessimist when it comes to clients). Thankfully, I'm rarely surprised personally, but when I am, I'm always stunned by it...
Grafter 05-18-08, 09:00 PM If I recall correctly, I'm an ENTJ.
I'm not surprised. I would have guessed that, or possibly and ENFJ.
qhcowgirl 05-18-08, 09:26 PM ENTP here... I pretty much fit the descriptions to a T.
Definitely an optimist. I always expect the outcome to turn out right. Even if things are going bad somehow I expect that it's all going to be fine. I'm probably something of a realist too. In other words, usually understand the situation, see it for what it is, see what it could be, and inspire everyone to make it better...
SuzzanneX 05-18-08, 10:16 PM sandy~
Rational Portrait of the Fieldmarshal (ENTJ)
Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is marshaling or situational organizing role that reaches the highest development in the Fieldmarshal. As this kind of role is practiced some contingency organizing is necessary, so that the second suit of the Fieldmarshal's intellect is devising contingency plans. Structural and functional engineering, though practiced in some degree in the course of organizational operations, tend to be not nearly as well developed and are soon outstripped by the rapidly growing skills in organizing. But it must be said that any kind of strategic exercise tends to bring added strength to engineering as well as organizing skills.
Hardly more than two percent of the total population, Fieldmarshals are bound to lead others, and from an early age they can be observed taking command of groups. In some cases, they simply find themselves in charge of groups, and are mystified as to how this happened. But the reason is that they have a strong natural urge to give structure and direction wherever they are - to harness people in the field and to direct them to achieve distant goals. They resemble Supervisors in their tendency to establish plans for a task, enterprise, or organization, but Fieldmarshals search more for policy and goals than for regulations and procedures.
They cannot not build organizations, and cannot not push to implement their goals. When in charge of an organization, whether in the military, business, education, or government, Fieldmarshals more than any other type desire (and generally have the ability) to visualize where the organization is going, and they seem able to communicate that vision to others. Their organizational and coordinating skills tends to be highly developed, which means that they are likely to be good at systematizing, ordering priorities, generalizing, summarizing, at marshaling evidence, and at demonstrating their ideas. Their ability to organize, however, may be more highly developed than their ability to analyze, and the Fieldmarshal leader may need to turn to an Inventor or Architect to provide this kind of input.
Fieldmarshals will usually rise to positions of responsibility and enjoy being executives. They are tireless in their devotion to their jobs and can easily block out other areas of life for the sake of their work. Superb administrators in any field - medicine, law, business, education, government, the military - Fieldmarshals organize their units into smooth-functioning systems, planning in advance, keeping both short-term and long-range objectives well in mind. For the Fieldmarshal, there must always be a goal-directed reason for doing anything, and people's feelings usually are not sufficient reason. They prefer decisions to be based on impersonal data, want to work from well thought-out plans, like to use engineered operations - and they expect others to follow suit. They are ever intent on reducing bureaucratic red tape, task redundancy, and aimless confusion in the workplace, and they are willing to dismiss employees who cannot get with the program and increase their efficiency. Although Fieldmarshals are tolerant of established procedures, they can and will abandon any procedure when it can be shown to be ineffective in accomplishing its goal. Fieldmarshals root out and reject ineffectiveness and inefficiency, and are impatient with repetition of error.
Hillary Clinton, Napoleon, Margret Thatcher, Carl Sagan, Bill Gates, Golda Meir, Edward Teller, George Benard Shaw, and General George C. Marshall are examples of Rational Fieldmarshals.
SuzzanneX 05-18-08, 10:18 PM cowgirl~
Rational Portrait of the Inventor (ENTP)
Inventors begin building gadgets and mechanisms as young children, and never really stop, though as adults they will turn their inventiveness to many kinds of organizations, social as well as mechanical. There aren't many Inventors, say about two percent of the population, but they have great impact on our everyday lives. With their innovative, entrepreneurial spirit, Inventors are always on the lookout for a better way, always eyeing new projects, new enterprises, new processes. Always aiming to "build a better mousetrap."
Inventors are keenly pragmatic, and often become expert at devising the most effective means to accomplish their ends. They are the most reluctant of all the types to do things in a particular manner just because that's the way they have been done. As a result, they often bring fresh, new approaches to their work and play. They are intensely curious and continuously probe for possibilities, especially when trying to solve complex problems. Inventors are filled with ideas, but value ideas only when they make possible actions and objects. Thus they see product design not as an end in itself, but as a means to an end, as a way of devising the prototype that works and that can be brought to market. Inventors are confident in their pragmatism, counting on their ability to find effective ways and means when they need them, rather than making a detailed blueprint in advance. A rough idea is all they need to feel ready to proceed into action.
Inventors often have a lively circle of friends and are interested in their ideas and activities. They are usually easy-going, seldom critical or carping. Inventors can be engaging conversationalists, able to express their own complicated ideas and to follow the ideas of others. When arguing issues, however, they may deliberately employ debate skills to the serious disadvantage of their opponents.
Inventors are usually non-conformists in the workplace, and can succeed in many areas as long as the job does not involve too much humdrum routine. They make good leaders on pilot projects that test their ingenuity. And they are skilled at engineering human relationships and human systems, quickly grasping the politics of institutions and always wanting to understand the people within the system rather than tell them what to do. No matter what their occupation, however, Inventors display an extraordinary talent for rising to the demands of even the most impossible situations. "It can't be done" is a challenge to an Inventor and elicits a reaction of "I can do it."
Walt Disney, Benjamin Franklin, Ray Kurtzweil, Buckminster Fuller, Richard Feynman, Thomas Edison, Camille Paglia, and Nicola Tesla are examples of an Inventor Rationals.
qhcowgirl 05-19-08, 12:50 AM Crazy! This is so me! Ever since I was little I was just like this...
cowgirl~
Rational Portrait of the Inventor (ENTP)
Inventors begin building gadgets and mechanisms as young children, and never really stop, though as adults they will turn their inventiveness to many kinds of organizations, social as well as mechanical. There aren't many Inventors, say about two percent of the population, but they have great impact on our everyday lives. With their innovative, entrepreneurial spirit, Inventors are always on the lookout for a better way, always eyeing new projects, new enterprises, new processes. Always aiming to "build a better mousetrap."
Inventors are keenly pragmatic, and often become expert at devising the most effective means to accomplish their ends. They are the most reluctant of all the types to do things in a particular manner just because that's the way they have been done. As a result, they often bring fresh, new approaches to their work and play. They are intensely curious and continuously probe for possibilities, especially when trying to solve complex problems. Inventors are filled with ideas, but value ideas only when they make possible actions and objects. Thus they see product design not as an end in itself, but as a means to an end, as a way of devising the prototype that works and that can be brought to market. Inventors are confident in their pragmatism, counting on their ability to find effective ways and means when they need them, rather than making a detailed blueprint in advance. A rough idea is all they need to feel ready to proceed into action.
Inventors often have a lively circle of friends and are interested in their ideas and activities. They are usually easy-going, seldom critical or carping. Inventors can be engaging conversationalists, able to express their own complicated ideas and to follow the ideas of others. When arguing issues, however, they may deliberately employ debate skills to the serious disadvantage of their opponents.
Inventors are usually non-conformists in the workplace, and can succeed in many areas as long as the job does not involve too much humdrum routine. They make good leaders on pilot projects that test their ingenuity. And they are skilled at engineering human relationships and human systems, quickly grasping the politics of institutions and always wanting to understand the people within the system rather than tell them what to do. No matter what their occupation, however, Inventors display an extraordinary talent for rising to the demands of even the most impossible situations. "It can't be done" is a challenge to an Inventor and elicits a reaction of "I can do it."
Walt Disney, Benjamin Franklin, Ray Kurtzweil, Buckminster Fuller, Richard Feynman, Thomas Edison, Camille Paglia, and Nicola Tesla are examples of an Inventor Rationals.
SuzzanneX 05-19-08, 01:40 AM I love this test..
...it defines you.
it helped me alot, when I thought I was the "other" me.
...the addicted to meth me.
qhcowgirl 05-19-08, 02:37 AM I love this test..
...it defines you.
it helped me alot, when I thought I was the "other" me.
...the addicted to meth me.
Yeah no kidding. It's amazing.
I'm a realist, but I do have a level of hope; hmmmm I would say I'm moment-driven, but I always usually think things will be OK, except when it's obvious that I don't have a chance to succeed. Then people tell me I'm a pessimist, but I have to say when I know something won't work at all.
runinl8 10-20-08, 06:09 PM Pesimistic - B with realist tendancies. I think I'm more of a realist but my husband is always calling me a pesimist.
I think of the worst, and predict the worse, what does that make me?
Louder Than Love 10-21-08, 06:17 AM INFJ.
More towards the side of the arts, crafts, writing.
Louder Than Love 10-21-08, 06:18 AM I think of the worst, and predict the worse, what does that make me?
Very cautious.
MaNaeSWolf 10-21-08, 07:06 AM im a optimist with realistic expectaions stuck together.
Im optemistic to try totally craze things or hope for really big things, and when my ideas are watered down to realistic levels (which I do myself) they still remain cool. Im used to dissapointment, but it usually only drives me harder.
A rule that architects use, design big first, trim later.
I think of the worst, and predict the worse, what does that make me?
The me I used to be, but no longer am. I think I can agree with Bluerose on this. Such thoughts have power of their own and can become self fulfilling. If only because others can feel what your attitude on life is.
The test showed me to be an INFP but I was not sure about all my answers.
Bluerose 10-21-08, 09:20 AM I’m into Zen and it really helps when trying to be positive. Thought is creative. We do get what we think we are going to get. And, yes, it is possible to change what you are thinking, how you are thinking.
I understand something about ADD and other disorders and I’m not saying we don’t have them. But I am saying that we make life more difficult for ourselves than it has to be. We too often expect the worst and therefore that is what we get.
We get anxious about doctors appointments, work situations etc. I have a solution to those anxieties. Go through the situation in your head and exchange any negative thoughts for more positive ones and imagine a very productive outcome. Do this instead of worrying and getting anxious about things that haven’t happened yet.
every time I see this test I take it and get a different response
last time I was intp
wonder what I'll get this time
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