View Full Version : 24 hour action needed! PLZZZZ HELP


foudz
05-19-08, 05:28 PM
hey guys
whats the best adhd drug for sustained attention and concentration througout the clock? ie 24hours
thanks :)

meadd823
05-19-08, 06:12 PM
If I do not want to go to sleep at night I just let my ADD medication wear off - the rebound keeps me awake.

ToneTone
05-19-08, 09:07 PM
there is no such thing as "the best drug" for adhd and concentration. Depends on the interaction between the medication and your individual body...

Andrew
05-19-08, 09:09 PM
Sustained, 24 hour attention is a different goal than a medicinal treatment for ADHD.

Provigil has been used by the US Military to promote sustained periods of being awake and clarity of thought.

It is occasionally prescribed for ADHD.

Maurice
05-19-08, 09:20 PM
There is no such thing that lasts 24 hours. There are a few XR or ER types {extended release} like Adderral XL which are supposed to last 12 hours. You sound very desperate. I can not even imagine why anybody would even want to stay up for 24 hours straight? Good luck, that is the best I can do for you.

ozchris
05-19-08, 09:23 PM
Strattera and Wellbutrin are both 24 hour medications aren't they?


Maybe he just wants the meds to work all the time rather than staying up all night.

foudz
05-20-08, 03:29 AM
hehehe looool
noooooo
i dont want to stay awake all night but you see im a medical student and i need for my attention to be all the day really good and when i go back home like at 5 or 6 pm to be able to study till midnight or 1 am add to that i want also to focus while im working out which never happens and my exercises seem to take a longer time ... psychostimulants are bad while workin out becos of increased pulsatility and heart rate

hope i made it clear
tc
fadi ;)

There is no such thing that lasts 24 hours. There are a few XR or ER types {extended release} like Adderral XL which are supposed to last 12 hours. You sound very desperate. I can not even imagine why anybody would even want to stay up for 24 hours straight? Good luck, that is the best I can do for you.

mijahe
05-20-08, 08:05 AM
i dont want to stay awake all night but you see im a medical student and i need for my attention to be all the day really good and when i go back home like at 5 or 6 pm to be able to study till midnight or 1 am add to that i want also to focus while im working out which never happens and my exercises seem to take a longer time
OK, I thought so. So you don't have ADD, yet you want to beef up your concentration skills because you're burning the candle at both ends.

If this is the case you've come to the wrong place. ADDF is a support site for people afflicted with ADD. It is in no way a drug site that provides suggestions on what the best drug to use for whatever purpose. You won't really get answers suitable for an NT person, because we all have ADD.

If this isn't the case, then I apologize that I may have misjudged your responses.

TygerSan
05-20-08, 08:29 AM
OK, I thought so. So you don't have ADD, yet you want to beef up your concentration skills because you're burning the candle at both ends.

If this is the case you've come to the wrong place. ADDF is a support site for people afflicted with ADD. It is in no way a drug site that provides suggestions on what the best drug to use for whatever purpose. You won't really get answers suitable for an NT person, because we all have ADD.

If this isn't the case, then I apologize that I may have misjudged your responses.

Apparently he does have ADD:

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52833


Med school + meds must be a difficult combination, 'cause you're on the go so much.

foudz
05-20-08, 08:38 AM
Why u keep misunderstanding me ?:)
im add but unfortunately i appeared to be a medical student ! hehe
and i recently started medications after my grades dropped tremendously and i wasnt capable to read more thern 10 minutes a day , seems my ADD was exacerbated by tiredness and work , med 1 was fine where we used to have time i was kind of 30 /42 rank , in med 2 im last 5 in my class , i cant read adn understand at the same time , i was kind of rank 35/40
and now in med 3 till i started meds i was doing really really bad but things got better , however , i need to sustain my attention at work and when i go back home to study , the meds effect is so short that either times (at home or at work , they help u) but no med can help throughout the clock? :)
thats what i was treyin to find out ...
thanks


OK, I thought so. So you don't have ADD, yet you want to beef up your concentration skills because you're burning the candle at both ends.

If this is the case you've come to the wrong place. ADDF is a support site for people afflicted with ADD. It is in no way a drug site that provides suggestions on what the best drug to use for whatever purpose. You won't really get answers suitable for an NT person, because we all have ADD.

If this isn't the case, then I apologize that I may have misjudged your responses.

ToneTone
05-20-08, 04:35 PM
I read an article somewhere about doctors with adhd and medical students with adhd.

You'll have to do like the rest of us do: you'll need to find a doctor and start experimenting. There is NO ANSWER to your question. No med works miracles and one works for everyone. You'll have to go through trial and error like the rest of us.

There is no "magic" pill out there for this.

TygerSan
05-20-08, 04:53 PM
I think the problem is that he has to be on for so long during the day. And the irregular hours make it even harder to take a long-acting medicine. . .

I don't know; how do ppl who work shifts deal with the med issue?

foudz
05-20-08, 05:31 PM
:( yep

Scattershot
05-20-08, 06:28 PM
I've found the opposite approach works well with my own irregular hours. Instead of taking a long-acting med, I take 5mg of Adderall IR every 2-3 hours for as long as I need to it. It is kind of a pain to take pills all day long, but it gives me the flexibility of having the medication in my system at the times I actually need it.

QueensU_girl
05-20-08, 11:27 PM
Be careful with staying awake too many days: hallucinations, etc, can occur.

Respect your brain, man. ;)

ozchris
05-21-08, 01:08 AM
Amazing how many people misunderstood this guy.


- He's ADD
- He's a med. student and needs his meds. to be stable throughout the day. Since med. students are 'on-the-go' pretty much all the time he wants his meds to be working 24 hours.
-He is NOT looking to stay up all night

foudz
05-21-08, 04:30 AM
Oh god what a rielief ! Thanks so much ozchris ! i guess you got me right (K)

watts
05-21-08, 11:17 AM
I would suggest going with lowest IR dose, such as Dexedrine 5mg, Ritalin, or Adderall, and take these when needed. Sometimes this is very effective if one takes a larger first dose of the day and then supplements the remainder of the day with the small boosters.

I have found that by taking a morning or first dose of say 20 or 30 XR (or IR), then utilizing 5mg IR boosters the rest of the day works very well.

Theoretically this is more or less what meds like Vyvanse supposedly do. The only difference is by using the IR the individual will have to take multiple doses a day at specific intervals or when needed.

mijahe
05-22-08, 03:21 AM
Why u keep misunderstanding me ?:)
im add but unfortunately i appeared to be a medical student ! hehe
foudz, I apologize. It appears I did indeed mis-interpret your meaning.

You'll have to forgive me.... I have this thing called ADD you see, which .... oh whatever, you know. :)

So.... to answer your question:
Studying is hard. I bombed out of Electrical Engineering... twice. So, I know the difficulties. The one thing I did eventually learn is that sleep is important. As ADDers we are already starting out behind everyone else. So, it's even more important to get enough sleep, and not just the right amount, (8 hours), but consistent sleep. That is wake every day at 0700 or whatever.

My ADD is WORSE when I'm tired, (read Space Cadet).

So, taking stimulant medication to help you concentrate for longer will only deprive you of sleep. Even 'normal' doses can lead to insomnia.

You could probably end up extending your medication, (but please talk to your pDoc about this), for the longer hours you need. But I'd also suggest making changes to your study habits/timetables. See if you can make a day a week that you reserve for 'nothing' time. You don't have anything booked, anything slotted in... just nothing.

'Nothing' time is important for ADDers, where you can process the week. Taking it in. This, of course, is probably going to be impossible to do being a med student. But, if you can do it. Even half an hour of doing 'nothing' works wonders.

This may not work for you, of course, but it does for me.

djotroy17
05-22-08, 03:39 AM
Oops misunderstood the question lol.

ozchris
05-22-08, 03:45 AM
'Nothing' time is important for ADDers, where you can process the week. Taking it in. This, of course, is probably going to be impossible to do being a med student. But, if you can do it. Even half an hour of doing 'nothing' works wonders.


Really good info there. It took me a long time to realize how important 'nothing' time is for me.

foudz
05-22-08, 05:48 AM
Thank you all :)
thanks mijah and ozchris specially :)