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seriously12345 05-28-08, 01:22 PM If you're on adderall, or even if you're not on adderall, and are trying to quit smoking, and if you have quiestions concerning chantix, here's an answer:
Yes, adderall and chantix will clash.[keep reading]
Why? I'm not sure. But everytime I've tried taking it with the adderall, I cry, even 2 hours after taking it, and I don't cry like that without chantix, I don't even cry like that without cigarettes.
I think it not only blocks nicotine receptors, but it does something to certain people's brain.
Like, if you have high anxiety, do not take chantix. If you have depression, do not take chantix, If you have EVER in your life tried to cut or kill yourself, do not take chantix.
Why? Because it can induce depression symptoms.
Although you may be happy that your not smoking, the side effects of chantix can make some people wish they never lived.
Seriously, if you are depressed or have ever been or have ever been suicidal, and I cannot stress this enough, then please do not take chantix.
I would suggest, if you really want to quit, having a real strong want to quit, strong will power and definately an exercise program.
Seriously, people rely on pills way way too much and doctors hand pills out way way too much, and they don't talk to the patient enough about the pills.
meadd823 05-30-08, 03:30 AM Although your claims may be genuine to your experience they are by no means "rule" I used Chantex to quit smoking and did just fine - I have been cigarette free sense Jan 2008 -
meadd823 05-30-08, 03:58 AM Smoking may be a way of self medicating for those who are already depressed
Brain Reward System Activity in Major Depression and Comorbid Nicotine Dependence (http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/302/3/1265)
Chantix blocks nicotine receptors in your brain even though you may still be smoking for the first week or so when you begin taking Chantix you begin the process of chemical nicotine with draw - naturally when you quit taking the Chantix you are no longer blocking the nicotine receptors so the symptoms of nicotine with draw stop -
The symptoms of nicotine withdraw means the medication Chantix is working as it should -
Quitting smoking: Withdrawal symptoms most severe in women with psychiatric illnesses (http://record.wustl.edu/archive/1997/11-13-97/2489.html)
The withdrawal symptoms evaluated in this study included nervousness, trouble concentrating, depressed mood, nicotine craving, irritability, restlessness, headaches, drowsiness, upset stomach, slowed heart rate, increased appetite, shaky hands and trouble sleeping. Symptoms that best distinguished smokers with severe withdrawal were characteristic of mood disorder. Of the study subjects who had experienced severe nicotine withdrawal, 84 percent reported a depressed mood after quitting cigarettes, 82 percent suffered with nervousness and 58 percent had insomnia. Only 20 percent of those with moderate withdrawal symptoms felt nervous when they stopped smoking.
After identifying subjects by level of nicotine withdrawal, Madden looked for associations between the severity of withdrawal and a lifetime history of psychiatric illness or specific personality traits. The idea was to identify factors that might predispose a patient to nicotine withdrawal symptoms.
"When we looked at those associations, we found that, compared with non-smokers, only those who suffered from severe nicotine withdrawal were more likely to have psychiatric disorders," Madden said. "Those with mild to moderate levels of withdrawal were no more likely than non-smokers to be depressed, anxious or suffer from other psychiatric problems."
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Nicotine Withdrawal (http://www.buzzle.com/articles/nicotine-withdrawal.html)
Symptoms of nicotine withdraw not having any thing to do with Chantix - reads a lot like the side effects of Chantix if you ask me.
PS I took my regular dose of Adderall the entire time - the only side effect I experienced with the Chantix was nausea. I decreased the morning dose and it went away.
I no longer take the Chantix it is for short term therapy only it is not like a medication one has to take forever. I think I was on it 2 to 2.5 months total including titration.
Quitting cigarettes is both a chemical with draw and a psychological with draw. Chantix allowed me to go through the chemical withdraw before I had to go through the psychological one. The addiction that last the longest is the psychological one - just like other street drugs and drinking there are relapse triggers one must become aware of and deal with.
I have quit street drugs and cigarettes - cigarettes are by far the most habit forming in my opinion.
zoomman 05-30-08, 12:58 PM I quit smoking using Chantix (I've written to the Pope, but his representatives say that they do not canonize medication. Sad, true), and I went from being focused into carcrash distant radio bad telephone thinking. I thought it was the drug and I quit a month early. It didn't stop, go to dr. Doctor, I am not smoking, I cannot think clear. All is awful, head full of riot in distance.
ADHD.
OHHHHHHHH.
Adderall makes me better.
Adderall and chantix, though, might be very wierd making indeed.
Keep all up to date.
Oh, and not smoking for one year June 13. Soon.
And we have a quit smoking group here. Are you there? I haven't looked.
DeloresMelon 05-30-08, 01:19 PM My husband quit using Skoal with chantix. Other than some really horrid gas and dreams he said were REALLY weird, he had no other real adverse reactions.
In fact, his positive experience lead several of the guys he works with to try chantix too. I know he's spoken of two that had success.
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