It would seem there is no perfect meds for the adhd'er!

I find that there are ok to good effects for the daytime but Im finding nights too unstable.

Its a shame there is no way to feel that nice calm quiete focused feeling I get during the day - all the time. It would make sleeping a sure thing. I find sleep is becoming an issue

if you take too much during the day its nap time - if i take too much at night im up all night ????? I cant seem to get this worked out -

Anyone else got this issue. Im begining to hate the end of the day - (on the plus side mornings are better than they have ever been.

I've heard that for some people, stimulants help them sleep - the calming effect you mention. Have you ever tried taking a very small dose of the Dex to see if it helps you sleep? (enough to get the calming effect but not enough to prevent sleep - if that's possible).

Small doses do work .... But unpredicably.

When I first tried them at night I thought I had found a cure!! Started with 1.25 mg - 1/2 h before bed. Best result found at 2.5 mg

Interestingly - I have slept during the day with a dose of 10mg dex. Comatose sleep! Unfortunatly my job dont allow for sleep during the day very often.

I have tried doing this at night and the effect is completelly different- calm alright but simply cant sleep- and too lethargic to do anything else.

Problem is it is very unpredictable and as mentioned above - too much or too little seems too hard to deturmine - some nights are great others - no sleep at all -

Last night I only got 2 hours-

O yeah - sedatives do not work at all - They make me extreamelly iratable and figity for days afterwards. Sleeping pills of any type make sleep impossable! (wierd)

I'm an insomniac a lot of the time and I'm not even on stimulants. I know what 2 hours of sleep feels like - not good! The antidepressant I take makes me very sleepy and helps me sleep through the night without waking - I love it. The drug is called Remeron. It's kind of similar to Strattera in that it works primarily on noradrenaline - but also on serotonin. One of the main reasons people stop taking it is the knockout effect it has! Oddly enough the sleep effect is more noticable at low dosages - 15mg is all most people need. I have few side effects from it, but that's all dependant on the person - it doesn't have the typical side effects of SSRI's (i.e. no sexual side effects). If other stuff hasn't worked, it might be worth a shot. It is used "off-label" for ADD/ADHD so it might even help a bit there too.
Ask your Dr.
Good luck,
Greg

Thanks for your input here Gregster

Ill give it a try - I have an appointment to see the doc on the 23rd. (im geeting low on dex.) I will ask him about it. In the mean time Im going to look up all I can on it- Have not heard of this one before.

Have you tried it?
Effects in the day?

Most sedatives - acually all sedatives ive tried make me more figity - esp. as they wear off.

It seems even if i have no sleep the night before as soon as evening comes around I perk up.

Tonight I try going back to lots of caffine before bed. It has often worked in the past.

My problem is if I take only one dose of Dex during the day at the time when I'd usually take my 2nd dose, I'm up all night when it wears off.

Hey Iced cooly

click this link

http://www.addforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=44347#post44347

ahh do you know if they have one of those in HFX? because thats where I am till summer...

Not that I know of for now any way

the guy who is putting it on resides in Ottawa so thats where hes having it