View Full Version : New N.I.C.E guidlines realeased in UK


-MiZ-
09-24-08, 04:39 AM
New N.I.C.E guidlines realeased in UK which for the first time include recomendations on treating adults and this is the news reports we get


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7630926.stm

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-news/ritalin-overprescribed-to-children-940308.html

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article4813727.ece

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1060630/Controversial-anti-hyperactivity-drug-Ritalin-given-unruly-children.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/health/3067579/Only-use-chemical-cosh-drug-Ritalin-in-most-severe-cases-of-ADHD-parents-told.html

-MiZ-
09-24-08, 04:49 AM
here is a list of the main recomendations, theres a lot more but this is the key recomendations
http://aadduk.proboards85.com/index.cgi?board=nice&action=display&thread=206

Can'tregister
09-24-08, 05:28 AM
Thanks Miz for putting up those links , sadly though the media coverage is still focusing on naughty little boys. Most of the comment by the public is also very uninformed but thats not surprising ,

ArtfulDodger
09-24-08, 06:16 AM
Thanks for the links. Bah. You would think the fact that this is the first time adults have been included in the diagnostic guidelines for the condition would be worth informing the public about, but only one of those five news reports bothered to mention in passing that adults can even have AD/HD!

The guidelines themselves are definitely a step forward, but it looks like we still have a long way to go where education is concerned. :(

-MiZ-
09-24-08, 06:41 AM
here is N.I.CE own press realese
http://aadduk.proboards85.com/index.cgi?board=nice&action=display&thread=280

can anyone spot the differences :D

Colin
09-24-08, 07:20 AM
I am gobsmacked at the bbc news, ive just heard "ritalin shoudl be avoided whenever possibble"ive read through a few things posted and it can be seen in a positve light in that they are recomending extra non medication help should be given in the lines of training such as for parents for coping stragegies etc, this is usefull in itself, personaly i think so many parents should be given training for bringing up normal children !however how on earth they spin this around to say they should prescibe rtialin less is absurd, nothing in the report says less ritalin should be prescribed.its interesting i just read somewhere how much ritalin is precribed per child, and it variies by a factor of about x50 from one pct area to another.

Destracted_UK
09-25-08, 06:18 AM
Full NICE guidelines - http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/index.jsp?action=byId&o=12061

More manageable version for People who use NHS services - http://www.nice.org.uk/nicemedia/pdf/CG72UNG.pdf

jess
09-25-08, 02:29 PM
Quite frankly the way this is all portrayed in the media enrages me and will i am sure lead to more families struggling and fighting their way through the system for a long time before they are able to obtain help for family members, seeing as most Gps follow the nice guide lines and the majority of gp are really not at all up to date on adhd i fear for those who will go un diagnosed . It has been documented that a multi modal approach of medication ,theraphy and parental guidance etc ensures the best outcome for a youngster ........are we going even further backwards here .....alas i believe so . it will also lead to more un read people whose lives are unaffected by this condition to whitter on how it does not exist . grahaha

jess
09-25-08, 02:32 PM
miz ! spotted the differences !! what a surprise not !

jenny2
02-14-09, 11:16 PM
I totally know were you are all coming from. The lady i saw at my mental health clinic seemed to have little knowledge of adhd, she tols me that i show a huge amount of adhd sighns, but as i could some times finish tasks it maybe just my personality. She said that people who have adhd can not complete tasks, hello!
She told me after she screens me even though their has been a change in the uk s thinkin of adhd that their is little if any support out their, and all they offer is medication, ie methalphenidate.
She said the medication prescribed was not a magic pill and would not fix me.

I could have lost the plot whilst i was in their, they have limited understanding and i think read of a sheet and if you do not fit the whole criteria then you must have a personality disorder of some sort. She told me i had to learn to switch off and give myself praise, i was like hello i have been trying to change for years constantly beeting myself up for my failings and now she wants me to stop thinking so much, how in the heck do i do that.

My son has adhd and we had to fight the education every one, but it has made me realise that it is time for me to go back to school and learn psychology, so that i can eventually help others like me.

I think one of the biggest problems is that in the states adhd seems to come accross to us in the uk as overly diagnosed and uk doctors and so fourth along with the media do not beleive it exists.

Which to a degree and i am a sufferer of adhd and have children with this problem, i can see why there is so much stigma surrounding it. Were boys are concerned people and teachers say well he is a boy, but when it is girls we are lazy or making excuses, which then causes us to have more problems and they wonder why. The system stincks and needs changing it really does xxx