View Full Version : Scientifically testing the marginal benafits of different med lvls


anonone
10-03-08, 06:24 PM
I want to (as scientifically as possible) determine exactly how each stimulant benafits me, and most importantly, optimal dose.

Specifically, I'm interested on how to test:

My short term memory (as many ways possible).
My reading comprehension
My math doining ability I guess
My willingness to do "I guess it's unquantifiable really, I text entry form would work though"
My ability to keep my plan straight in my head and recall it readily (maybe I could have a msgbox prompt me to input my immediate future schedule, and I could examine it at the end of the day for accuracy / amount of time it took to recall).

...what else should I be looking at? What other qualities are there that can change with stimulants / dietary change?

I found a book from somewhere called complete book of intelligence tests, which I'm goona base some of the tests on if I gotta do it myself.

Does anyone know of some kind of all in one application for doing all these tests, and benchmarking the performance? I'm goona google, and then eventually program one up my self if I can't find it.

Just before posting I found some more things related to what I'm doing
http://www.allthetests.com/ 'lacks the benchmarking of scores / calendar integration, not sure if it can time things either.

--My biggest problem is my short term memory, I just can't keep all the words in my head long enough to get to the end of the sentance and have it make sense. I think to test improvement in this field I would be best off playing audio files of someone saying a sentance. Then it would prompt for you to type out the sentance. I really just want some kind of a benchmark for this ability I think... but maybe there's a better aproach; I can't think of one now.
!!There's also the factor of focus. I need to focus.. like listen to the actual words i'm hearing/reading, and not be thinking in my head off task words about what I really wanna do. How the **** do I measure something like that :confused: If anyone has input i'd really apreciate it, especially pertaining to the memory / focus problem I have.

prtsimmons
10-03-08, 06:48 PM
I've thought about this, too, because I hear so much about different medications / supplements /dietary changes - it would be nice to evaluate effects of various treatments on me, personally.

I would suggest adding an impulsivity test... there are a few available online. The one the psychiatrist made me do when I was originally diagnosed involved clicking a mouse when I saw certain letters flash on the screen, but not when other letters appeared.

I like online typing tests, too. Compare speed & accuracy on different meds. There are several free ones on the web.

If you want to be as impartial as possible, you need some way to make yourself unaware of which drug you are taking.

Good luck!

anonone
10-04-08, 12:27 AM
Thanks for the response. I had never heard of an impulsivity test but if the results of this test change under stimulant use i'm hugely interested. A quick google shot me this
test http://www.thepersonalbest.com/SelfTests/StroopEffectsMainFrame.html
The game you described sounds like a lot more fun to play though, and to some degree removes the element of reading (whole words anyway).
-I don't exactly understand what they're testing though... Is it just gauging how long it takes for a person to make a logical decision / judgement? The word impulsivity makes me think there's more to it.

A solution to the impartiality problem came to me already. A couple days ago I found out how easy it is to take apart an adderall capsul. Yesterday I bought a magnesium supplement, and it came in these huge caps. The caps are white and fairly difficult to see through making them good candidates for hosting stimulants that I don't want to be able to identify. I bet there's a way to buy empty pill cases from a drug store too, but regaurdless.

Carefully poor a weeks worth of meds into the new 'shifty' capsuls and pop them into one of those weekly pill holder things or just use a plastic baggy. Put a little note in / with the containter that has the name of the stim that's in them. Then do the same for the next stim you want to test.

Next hand the sample bags to someone you trust and tell them to Labol each containter of pills "sample A", and the other "sample B", and also to record on a secrete sheet of paper what note was in sample A and what note was in the container they laboled B.

Now you don't know what you're taking, and you can find out post experiment.


Another important preparatory measure would be to perform each test only after a week of living clean and well nurished. Also learn the tests and what not so we don't experiance statistical anomalies do to learning curve.

It would be most thorough to run through all the tests 3 times a day, though a bit inconvienient.

--Ooh, I just realized I would very much like to graph the changes in results Vs. the changes in dose to achieve a visual representation of 'optimal dose'. Also to be able to filter the list by day of experiment, brand, time of testing, specific thing tested / aggrigate.