PopeyeDoyle
11-12-08, 03:51 AM
Hello forum,
Was recently diagnosed with ADHD and put on Aderrall which has been working fabulous at the right dose (half a 20 mg xr three to fours times a day). Taking a full one gives me an uncomfortable rush. The Adderall has been wonderful for my ADHD and thinking, but has elevated my heart rate to above 100 and blood pressure as well to pre-hypertension to hypertension levels normally. Sometimes if I don't space out my dosages or take too much my heart beats fast (~120-130ish) and get arthymias presumably because its beating too fast. I have almost become obsessed with monitoring my pulse and believe I feel arrhythmias, but could just be me being a hypochondriac. It would make sense to have arrhythmia because of the tachycardia (100+ heart rate).
Now I believe anxiety is also a factor as well, for instance in class with a teacher I am not relaxed around, our divided groups were explaining something, was on adderall and the closer it came for us and I to speak the more lightheaded I got. I almost fainted, and got a stronger heart beat than usual. Believe they are called "extratoles" or PVCs, they can be caused by stress or stimulants (like Adderall) but it seemed to be stress in this case. This wasnt the first time I've felt a extratole on adderall either and probably the biggest reason I started taking only halves of my prescribed pills. Being put on adderall has been both great and scary which has caused me to focus on my cardiovascular system; I want to live a long time. Would a benzodiazipine lower my heart rate? I've had a panic attack in public and almost fainted like Tony Soprano before, and more anxious than the ordinary person. But my anxiety has never really been a problem until now that its exacerbated by the stimulant. Not sure if ironic is the right word, but it seems that a lot of my stress before was a product of my ADHD.
I really don't want to be put on a beta blocker for my HR and BP, and a benzo for anxiety. I'm 27 and the only prescribed medicine I've ever taken has been Adderall for the last 8 days. I would rather just be on a benzo. Psychologically heart and blood pressure medicine seems like something my grandpa would take. But my ego would have to be hurt if there was no choice, and I suspect im going to be put on at least one more medication or off adderall. What benzo works best against Adderalls increase in heart rate and blood pressure?
Have experimented quite a bit with benzos before, and know that xanax has a very high abuse potential. Used to do a lot on the "weekends" (40-50 miligrams) to the point that I seemed to stop having withdrawals (im very serious). And don't want to be put on xanax because I don't think I can handle it, but feel little to nothing on valium and clonopin after the first day and it lasts a long time too (unlike xanax). What is the best benzo for lowering blood pressure and heart rate?
I'm going to feel like an old man if I get prescribed <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.0 (Win32)"><style type="text/css"> <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --></style>atenolol and a benzo. It seems like a slippery slope from treating my ADHD to potentially being on 3 medications.
I see my doctor tomorrow, just want to hear users experiences on the subject above.
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For the benefit of future forum users below is some information related to the effects of some benzos on HR and BP, but posted the above because I want to hear from people on Adderall about benzos:
<meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.0 (Win32)"><style type="text/css"> <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } A:link { so-language: zxx } --> </style> It has been proven that alprazolam (Xanax) does lower blood pressure temporarily. I am not familiar with studies using valium, but lorazepam (Ativan) has also been shown to lower heart rate and blood pressure. The following link will take you to a NIH study on this issue:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8944402&dopt=Abstract)
In another study, it was shown that Xanax can lower the diastolic blood pressure (lower number), while Ativan does not:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9700978&dopt=Abstract)
Several studies have shown that patients suffering from high blood pressure and anxiety will experience a lower BP from taking Xanax, but it is not clear whether persons without anxiety should take Xanax for blood pressure. There are several reliable and widely-used medications that lower blood pressure in patients without anxiety. Even if you do suffer from anxiety and high BP, a benzodiazepine should be prescribed for the anxiety, and another med should be prescribed for BP.
If you have anxiety and the benzo helps your blood pressure, then great, but rely on blood pressure meds for high blood pressure nevertheless. The benzo effects are temporary, and other meds (such as atenolol) are quite effective at maintaining healthy blood pressure.
If you do not have anxiety, do not take a benzo for high blood pressure when there is a plethera of great meds that work very well.
And of course, if you have low blood pressure, don't take Xanax or Valium! You can end up in a coma.
Was recently diagnosed with ADHD and put on Aderrall which has been working fabulous at the right dose (half a 20 mg xr three to fours times a day). Taking a full one gives me an uncomfortable rush. The Adderall has been wonderful for my ADHD and thinking, but has elevated my heart rate to above 100 and blood pressure as well to pre-hypertension to hypertension levels normally. Sometimes if I don't space out my dosages or take too much my heart beats fast (~120-130ish) and get arthymias presumably because its beating too fast. I have almost become obsessed with monitoring my pulse and believe I feel arrhythmias, but could just be me being a hypochondriac. It would make sense to have arrhythmia because of the tachycardia (100+ heart rate).
Now I believe anxiety is also a factor as well, for instance in class with a teacher I am not relaxed around, our divided groups were explaining something, was on adderall and the closer it came for us and I to speak the more lightheaded I got. I almost fainted, and got a stronger heart beat than usual. Believe they are called "extratoles" or PVCs, they can be caused by stress or stimulants (like Adderall) but it seemed to be stress in this case. This wasnt the first time I've felt a extratole on adderall either and probably the biggest reason I started taking only halves of my prescribed pills. Being put on adderall has been both great and scary which has caused me to focus on my cardiovascular system; I want to live a long time. Would a benzodiazipine lower my heart rate? I've had a panic attack in public and almost fainted like Tony Soprano before, and more anxious than the ordinary person. But my anxiety has never really been a problem until now that its exacerbated by the stimulant. Not sure if ironic is the right word, but it seems that a lot of my stress before was a product of my ADHD.
I really don't want to be put on a beta blocker for my HR and BP, and a benzo for anxiety. I'm 27 and the only prescribed medicine I've ever taken has been Adderall for the last 8 days. I would rather just be on a benzo. Psychologically heart and blood pressure medicine seems like something my grandpa would take. But my ego would have to be hurt if there was no choice, and I suspect im going to be put on at least one more medication or off adderall. What benzo works best against Adderalls increase in heart rate and blood pressure?
Have experimented quite a bit with benzos before, and know that xanax has a very high abuse potential. Used to do a lot on the "weekends" (40-50 miligrams) to the point that I seemed to stop having withdrawals (im very serious). And don't want to be put on xanax because I don't think I can handle it, but feel little to nothing on valium and clonopin after the first day and it lasts a long time too (unlike xanax). What is the best benzo for lowering blood pressure and heart rate?
I'm going to feel like an old man if I get prescribed <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.0 (Win32)"><style type="text/css"> <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } --></style>atenolol and a benzo. It seems like a slippery slope from treating my ADHD to potentially being on 3 medications.
I see my doctor tomorrow, just want to hear users experiences on the subject above.
************************************************** ******
For the benefit of future forum users below is some information related to the effects of some benzos on HR and BP, but posted the above because I want to hear from people on Adderall about benzos:
<meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><title></title><meta name="GENERATOR" content="OpenOffice.org 3.0 (Win32)"><style type="text/css"> <!-- @page { margin: 0.79in } P { margin-bottom: 0.08in } A:link { so-language: zxx } --> </style> It has been proven that alprazolam (Xanax) does lower blood pressure temporarily. I am not familiar with studies using valium, but lorazepam (Ativan) has also been shown to lower heart rate and blood pressure. The following link will take you to a NIH study on this issue:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8944402&dopt=Abstract)
In another study, it was shown that Xanax can lower the diastolic blood pressure (lower number), while Ativan does not:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9700978&dopt=Abstract)
Several studies have shown that patients suffering from high blood pressure and anxiety will experience a lower BP from taking Xanax, but it is not clear whether persons without anxiety should take Xanax for blood pressure. There are several reliable and widely-used medications that lower blood pressure in patients without anxiety. Even if you do suffer from anxiety and high BP, a benzodiazepine should be prescribed for the anxiety, and another med should be prescribed for BP.
If you have anxiety and the benzo helps your blood pressure, then great, but rely on blood pressure meds for high blood pressure nevertheless. The benzo effects are temporary, and other meds (such as atenolol) are quite effective at maintaining healthy blood pressure.
If you do not have anxiety, do not take a benzo for high blood pressure when there is a plethera of great meds that work very well.
And of course, if you have low blood pressure, don't take Xanax or Valium! You can end up in a coma.